Show Idle (>14 d.) Chans

← 2015-03-16 | 2015-03-18 →
danielpbarron: "She was pretty drunk so this speech was littered with lovely curse words and slurring." << did this interview take place in b-a or something?
decimation: asciilifeform: re: what to do about hardware < sell diy "mr. fuser" kit at costco?
BingoBoingo: << lol "Speaking of which, there must be negative feedback to discourage people from breaking stuff. This has been a continual problem with certain "developers" for more than a decade."
danielpbarron: basically saying they need to be more like the guy they kicked out
BingoBoingo: Not they, he
decimation: < ru mil 'conducting excercises' in eastern ru
assbot: Russia Starts Large-Scale Communications Drills in Nine Regions / Sputnik International ... ( )
assbot: The advance warning for this OpenSSL bug can only mean one thing. There's going to be a dope logo for this bug on Thursday.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 716 @ 0.01449993 = 10.3819 BTC [+] {2}
danielpbarron: !up brendafdez
brendafdez: nice i can haz voice. I was trying to use SASL authentication on hexchat, but for some reaosn it doesn't seem to work. Gave up, is very difficult, this irc stuff.
mircea_popescu: "As one of the 4 originators of NetBSD, I am in a fairly unique position."
mircea_popescu: math is hard. fourtique position !
mircea_popescu: !gettrust brendafdez
assbot: brendafdez is not registered in WoT.
mircea_popescu: ^ do that.
mircea_popescu: sasl is for the birds.
assbot: Corrida Nîmes - The Horse bite and kill the bull ! - YouTube ... ( )
brendafdez: ;;ident brendafdez
gribble: Nick 'brendafdez', with hostmask 'brendafdez!~brendafde@unaffiliated/brendafdez', is identified as user 'brendafdez', with GPG key id CE5BEE6C81FCA4D4, key fingerprint 59D8599B65A983BF0288E5B6CE5BEE6C81FCA4D4, and bitcoin address None
mircea_popescu: other 1.
BingoBoingo: brendafdez: Assbot has its own way to authenticate use !register
mircea_popescu: "The existing NetBSD Foundation must be disbanded, and replaced with an organization that fulfills its original purpose: to merely handle administrative issues"
mircea_popescu: lol. imbecile "Foundation", a problem for every netbsd clone since day one.
brendafdez: !register 59D8599B65A983BF0288E5B6CE5BEE6C81FCA4D4
assbot: Searching for key with fingerprint: 59D8599B65A983BF0288E5B6CE5BEE6C81FCA4D4. This may take a few moments.
assbot: Key 81FCA4D4 / "Brenda Fernández <>" successfully imported.
assbot: Registration successful.
brendafdez: like so?
mircea_popescu: !rate brendafdez 1 New tits
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP:
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.brendafdez.1:bd0936d5e7c2db1878ac7d3ac05fb79ac1087d9de8c7139108bbc564651c4aa1
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for brendafdez with note: New tits
mircea_popescu: you voice yourself by pm ing assbot !up
brendafdez: wow (:
assbot: Freeze - Ripple Wiki ... ( )
assbot: Heavily armed drug cops raid retiree’s garden, seize okra plants - The Washington Post ... ( )
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell jurov << why not a patch file for this? just to make me diff it myself?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: a brendafdez!
mircea_popescu: "The Cannabis Eradication programs have historically inflated the size of their hauls by including non-psychoactive "ditchweed" in their totals of plants seized. In past years, ditchweed accounted for up to 98 percent of seized outdoor plant totals."
mircea_popescu: epic. the usg, inflating EVERYTHING.
mircea_popescu: fake psychiatric patients. fake foster kids. fake homeless. fake pot captures, fake mit engineering degrees, fake currency
mircea_popescu: and im sure, fake orgasms.
BingoBoingo: ;;google US fake orgasm epidemic
gribble: The Orgasm Deficit - Cosmopolitan: <>; The Under F**ked Pussy Epidemic (Every Woman Needs To Read ...: <>; The infidelity epidemic: Never have marriage vows been under so ...: < (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: they seriously misspelled fucking in the title of an article about cunt and fucking ?
mircea_popescu: here's an idea : if you're not comfortable spelling your topic, write about something else.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "trip" << hilarious
mircea_popescu: ha! thanks.
brendafdez: forgive the laziness to look it up, but the wot ratings entered with assbot end up showing on bitcoin-otc the same as they did back when one registered them with gribble, right? They get 'synced' after a while?
BingoBoingo: Whether they sync ever if I recall correctly is still a bit of a mystery
mircea_popescu: brendafdez well, there's some talks to get the two bots talking to each other, but they're proceeding glacially.
mircea_popescu: so far assbot keeps its own thing, you can curl query it, look in the wiki/logs for examples.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63000 @ 0.00031387 = 19.7738 BTC [-] {3}
brendafdez: Trying to reach that promised land of inbox 0 i unearthed an old message saying i had shares waiting for me on registration at CipherTrade. Towards the end of 2013 during the bubble, i had purchased a number of shares of CipherMine, because the issuer, Kate of memset, was also trans, hot and into women, so they couldn't possibly be a bad choice. I boght 90 of the things at some 4 LTC each. Each LTC was some 10 dollars at the time. I
brendafdez: expected to at least find enough for a beer or a coffee if I registered, claimed and liquidated the position.
brendafdez: Was greeted with this instead: "There is no historical trading data available for this security You own 90 shares of a total of 110000 listed on CipherTrade Best ask rate: N/A Best bid rate: N/A"
fluffypony: lol ciphertrade
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.0003116 = 5.5465 BTC [-] {2}
fluffypony: such a fail
brendafdez: At least the remaining 0.12 LTC which weren't enough to buy a full share are still there waiting. I see complains in the forum that withdrawals aren't being processed correctly, but it it goes through I might walk away almost with a full quarter
brendafdez: such pain. I'd need another 10x bubble already to recover what I lost doing this kind of things, but this one seems to be running late.
cazalla: brendafdez you're a dude?
fluffypony: cazalla: I gather from the "also trans" comment above that she's an ex-dude
fluffypony has no idea how genders work anymore
fluffypony: hah hah
cazalla: brendafdez, ya don't really hold a candle to bailey jay but i guess you can pass
BingoBoingo: !up indiancandy1
brendafdez: that's not me, i don't have a picture of myself in the mens room, but it was quite graphic. This is me for real: and there are many many pictures in other places. Today Anon took the effort to out me in the Trilema comments. But I prefer to take that pleasure away from people and out myself beforehand.
assbot: About me | Brenda Blog ... ( )
cazalla: brendafdez, well you're not the first trans to come here, likely not even the second
brendafdez: So it was allinvain, I'm not getting the badge after all (?
cazalla: brendafdez, yeah, no badge for you, not sure where the other trans went, think he/she had drug problems or something, homeless too from memory
cazalla: indiancandy1, started camming yet?
indiancandy1: when today
cazalla: when ever i guess
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.00030906 = 12.7642 BTC [-] {2}
brendafdez: indiancandy1, i could introduce you to titsforbitcoin
indiancandy1: introduce me
indiancandy1: please
indiancandy1: i thought mp was the only buyer
indiancandy1: on tits 4 btc
indiancandy1: is brenda a trans
indiancandy1: hi brenda
indiancandy1: im shanti dynaite
indiancandy1: dynamite
brendafdez: awesome, pleased to meet you
brendafdez: it's not that hard just sign up here you need the Flash crap thing but you likely already have it
assbot: Model sign up - (t)it'sforbitcoin - Bitcoin cams. Live Bitcoin webcams. Watch and earn Bitcoin. Amateur girls on live cams accept Bitcoin ... ( )
cazalla: indiancandy1, is that really you?
brendafdez: I'm not paying anyone to do this things, so maybe you're right that mp is the only paying (even then, it could be a very good idea...), I'm just doing because I want the ecosystem to grow
brendafdez: who? the one whose nick is the answer to your question?
mircea_popescu: an ecosystem eh ?
fluffypony: he said, nonchalantly
mircea_popescu: you should do all my voiceovers!
fluffypony: hah hah
indiancandy1: what do you mean
indiancandy1: you want the ecosystem to grow
indiancandy1: do you show your boobs for btc
brendafdez: youst sign up already
indiancandy1: its small time money
brendafdez: it's fun
indiancandy1: what showing your breasts
indiancandy1: is fun?
indiancandy1: not when its a full time job
indiancandy1: my whole life consists of showing breasts
brendafdez: my full time job is feeding the scammers... therefore, an ecosystem
assbot: Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. ( )
indiancandy1: you feed scammers?
indiancandy1: i dont get it
indiancandy1: sorry :(
assbot: Shanti Dynamite's Nude Yoga Stunt | Check Out - YouTube ... ( )
indiancandy1: thats me
BingoBoingo: indiancandy1: Oh, you have a wikipedia page. Even MP's got deleted.
assbot: Shanti Dynamite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( )
indiancandy1: im famous
indiancandy1: and broke
indiancandy1: famous and broke
indiancandy1: such is life
indiancandy1: anyways im launching my adult site
cazalla: damn half greek eh, i'm not a fan of woggy girs
indiancandy1: to monetize
indiancandy1: whats woggy?
cazalla: ;;ud wog
gribble: | By now it has greatly lost its sting, and many ethnic Australians have reclaimed it as a jocular term, with some cleverly riffing on it (e.g. 'clog wog' for a Dutchman, ...
indiancandy1: for a dutchman
indiancandy1: im not dutch
cazalla: nah, refer to aus english part, not british
cazalla: 1. a non-Anglo-Celtic European, esp. from Southern or Eastern Europe (e.g. Greek, Italian, Balkan, Slavic, etc.)
indiancandy1: i dont care about your preference
indiancandy1: to be honest
indiancandy1: im not tryna fuck you so ,.
fluffypony: you're so cool
fluffypony: I wish I was as cool as you
fluffypony: with your hardcore IDGAF attitude
fluffypony: #swag #yolo
cazalla: #selfie
Adlai: ʏᴏʟᴏ
Adlai: !up indiancandy1
fluffypony: 2L33T4ME
indiancandy1: #selfie
indiancandy1: #belfie
indiancandy1: anywaays
indiancandy1: brenda
indiancandy1: are you cashing in?
indiancandy1: on the tits thing
brendafdez: no, for me it was a very brief experiment. I only did it once, and made what at the time were some 8 dollars. Not bad for an hour of time or so. I didn't intend to cash in doing camshows, but I had several friends who did take it more seriously, and they made more money than they would have othrewise, for a very low effort, some customers just wanted to hear them talk. All this was a long time ago, I see less activity on the site th
brendafdez: ese days, but trying couldn't hurt.
indiancandy1: i did it i made 60dollars for 1pic
indiancandy1: but if you want to cam dont cam for btc there is not enough people that use btc for you to earn in cam
indiancandy1: if you want to cam for money im sure you can earn also as your trans you fit into a niche try mfc ?
indiancandy1: or even adultwork maybe best for you
indiancandy1: you could earn 2 to 3 thousand dollars a month from home
mircea_popescu: re "Kate of memset" << o boy we did her here, i recall.
assbot: 87 results for 'kate' :
brendafdez: Also it youre on other websites like myfreecams, you can be on many at the same time. I don't want to cam, and if i did I would never market mysekf that way. I like aw. Ok, then if you earn that much great for you.
assbot: On periphery and the peripheral. Ephemerides are also mentioned. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( )
brendafdez: Anyway, I wasn't asking for advisse on how to market myself on cam sites, i thought it was you :P
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 dja make 2-3k ?
indiancandy1: i dont cam much
indiancandy1: i just came back from india didnt i
indiancandy1: but before i did
indiancandy1: when i did full time
indiancandy1: well not full time you kno what i mean
indiancandy1: anyways im launching my site now and wil sell tease videos
indiancandy1: and i wanna monetize on utube also as i see this videos on utube of me
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 you should talk to naphex if memory serves he was looking for models for a newsite.
indiancandy1: having like 500k hits just for cleavage etc
indiancandy1: where is he
mircea_popescu: ;;seen naphex
gribble: naphex was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 6 days, 2 hours, 17 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <Naphex> o/
mircea_popescu: well apparently he's disappeared o.O
mircea_popescu: probably getting fucked to death.
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 08:04:27; brendafdez: such pain. I'd need another 10x bubble already to recover what I lost doing this kind of things, but this one seems to be running late.
mircea_popescu: brendafdez so how did you get the idea you're really a dude ?
indiancandy1: i thought it was a male dressed as female
mircea_popescu: arguably.
brendafdez: dunno, they told me that i was male when they raised me, i thought they must know what they are saying...
BingoBoingo: !up Bagels7
mircea_popescu: oh im sorry. i meant to ask the other way.
mircea_popescu: shit's confusing.
mircea_popescu: so how did you get the idea you're really a broad ?
indiancandy1: omg mircea
brendafdez: shit's confusing
indiancandy1: i just remembered]
indiancandy1: you know the adult tv show i work in
indiancandy1: basically they have a channel in romania
mircea_popescu: actually i don't, but go on.
indiancandy1: and the woman who runs it has the same surnma as you
indiancandy1: i was like i wonder if your related
mircea_popescu: haha, common enough.
mircea_popescu: sorta like patel.
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 08:34:55; indiancandy1: i thought mp was the only buyer
indiancandy1: i thought it was you
mircea_popescu: check it out, she's got a wiki page an' errything :
assbot: Shanti Dynamite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( )
mircea_popescu: you're the woman now, bitch!
indiancandy1: sorry?
indiancandy1: you lost me here baby
mircea_popescu: "She has been adjudged as one of the 50 Sexiest Woman of Asia by British Newspaper Eastern Eye."
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 "you're the man now, dog" , aka ytmnd is this internet phenomenon
BingoBoingo: Also two movies coming out this year
mircea_popescu: in truth was big about the time you were 12.
indiancandy1: thats bullshit
indiancandy1: ahah no movies :(
mircea_popescu: "Parents divorced at age of 9 years, so Sofia and mother move to London, UK It was hard settling in London it was cold and completely different to Africa. Sofia grew up in North West London and South West London in Brixton Angel Town one of the roughest areas in London. Sofia got into gang culture as a teenager and left school at 16 to join a hair and beauty school. Sofia grew up in low class area and her mother was wo
mircea_popescu: rking as a nurse but then salary did not cover living costs."
indiancandy1: why are you quoting my wiki page
mircea_popescu: check it out, she grew up rough in the streets of brixton!
BingoBoingo: indiancandy1: But IMDB said...
indiancandy1: i signed for them
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 i dunno, mildly interesting.
indiancandy1: but i had problems with directors
indiancandy1: so didnt end up shooting
indiancandy1: so im back to being broke and famous
mircea_popescu: wait, you didn't end up shooting or they didn't end shooting up ?
indiancandy1: we didnt start the film yo
indiancandy1: yes dear
indiancandy1: i filmed my twerk video alst week
mircea_popescu: any good ?
indiancandy1: im waiting to see the end rsults its in post production
indiancandy1: hope it goes viral
mircea_popescu: not unless you do something outright bizarre.
indiancandy1: no in india
indiancandy1: come on if you look at videos of my cleavage on utube hving 500k hits
indiancandy1: indians are thirsty
indiancandy1: and no indian has done twerk video before
mircea_popescu: ah, then it might catch.
mircea_popescu: it's so funny to me, all of east asia is pretty much one dick split up to two or even three men. india, right next to it... those dudes are reasonably hung.
mircea_popescu: i imagine sino-indian conflict over the state of the pussy is inevitable.
indiancandy1: now i dont want to ask how or why you know that kind of ino
indiancandy1: info**
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 08:48:46; fluffypony: I wish I was as cool as you
fluffypony: hah hah
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 i have friends, they like to talk.
indiancandy1: about cock
indiancandy1: lovely
BingoBoingo: !up indiancandy1
mircea_popescu: brendafdez: Not bad for an hour of time or so. << whadda ya do for a living anyway ?
indiancandy1: whose got instagram yo?
mircea_popescu: preppy kids, mostly.
brendafdez: used to sell smuggled electronics. Then I thought I had money bc bitcoin, abandoned the former thing and pretended that I could succesfully work as a bitcoin broker, I made some good deals but all in all I was a very lame person in charge of my own business and it sucked. Now I realize I don't have money nor business, still a couple of bitcoins to go, but things aren't looking bright. Sucks.
mircea_popescu: worst comes to worst, arbolito or something hm ?
indiancandy1: used to sell smuggled electronics
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 argentines are worse than indians, i think the only law respected here is the law of gravity.
indiancandy1: can you bribe there?
indiancandy1: like in india you can bribe cops with small money
brendafdez: where can't you? but yes, i bet we're really bad re:law
BingoBoingo: Sounds awesome
brendafdez: You can bribe a cop with fifty pesos here, like 4 dollars
mircea_popescu: well it also depends what you're having him do.
brendafdez: in this case it was for crossing a red light
mircea_popescu: sounds more like he was trying to hit on you. i think ~1mn people jaywalk each day
BingoBoingo: Here they'd beat you for a $50 bribe because insulting
brendafdez: i was with a friend, he sorted it out with the cop
indiancandy1: where do you live brenda
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it's really like old new york, no fucking body cares what the lights say.
brendafdez: buenos aires
davout: mircea_popescu: "sounds more like he was trying to hit on you. i think ~1mn people jaywalk each day" <<< massive understatement, unless you mean jaywalk and get fined for it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48150 @ 0.00032276 = 15.5409 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Ah. I'm also guessing there you don't get SWAT called for okra
mircea_popescu: davout no, just meant in caba
brendafdez: not jaywalking, he was driving a car
davout: ah
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 347971 | Current Difficulty: 4.74275549506483E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 348767 | Next Difficulty In: 796 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 5 hours, 15 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 46579597406.5 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.7879
indiancandy1: mp is in bueno aires
mircea_popescu: so i heard.
brendafdez: most arbolitos work for a certain broker, i couldn't do that, I was my own market basically, i had money on btc-e and bitstamp and made there the trades i made with people here otc, like for instance, someone buys 5 btc, i buy 5 btc on bitstamp/btc-e, someone sells 2 btc i sell 2 btc. That was the theory, of course there was a spread and to me one year ago that soiunded like it could work, and sometimes it did, but there were many u
brendafdez: nplanned issues. Also form what arbolitos tell me, they can basically do the trade at 'the cave' basically at the same time if they don't have both buyer and seller, and they are running out of money on one end. But I couldn't do that, there were times when I would in fact run out of money in the exchanges and had trades which i took at my own risk, and that was a very bad thing.
mircea_popescu: brendafdez this because you're in principle against being an employee ?
brendafdez: i am not
mircea_popescu: so then ? of course you work for someone.
mircea_popescu: that's how you learn to stop sucking at being your own boss, among other things
mircea_popescu: such as, how to give killer blowjobs.
brendafdez: maybe...
indiancandy1: ahahah mp always have to include something naughty
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 defo. it's the new world! raunchy an' rude.
indiancandy1: my nipple is in agony
mircea_popescu: send it off to shovel snow.
indiancandy1: this peircing is such a ... dont even knw the word
Adlai: nagony!
davout: nipple piercing... thinking about it is already painful
indiancandy1: yea but its been almost 1year
indiancandy1: and the god damn thing aint healed yet
davout: do you to keep it that bad?
davout: *do you want to keep it that bad?
brendafdez: There was much less risk involved when I would sell shit, it was easier also, and besides I could bring many things via post shipments form DX, eBay and such (so I could many times spare the middle man), and it was just listing on MercadoLibre (local ebay equivalent), and most would sell, there wasn't much a way I could lose money, only it the thing didn't sell. I had to go and wait hours at customs, many times if the items weren't
brendafdez: expensive they would let me go without paying bc they had more interesting stuff going on with other people, i had to go to the post or bus station and make shippments. In hindsight those were the good times and doing it wasn't hard. Then I started dabbling with bitcoin, I had been reading the forums on and off since 2011, i was too stupid then [not that it has changed] and cpu solo mined, made nothing, didn't get the thing. Then I
brendafdez: bought some bitcoins via The Rock and VirWox with Linden Dollars, in the beggining of 2013, which was would seem a lucky move, but I wasn't able to do much with that.
Adlai startled to find himself converging upon
assbot: Idioms of Flare ... ( )
Adlai: !up indiancandy1
indiancandy1: shal i invest in btc
Adlai !upped you for that?
brendafdez: I had a couple of opportunities to work for/with someone else but they didn't seem like a good deal, for instance one of the local brokers who was then dealing even lower amounts than I was and who wasn't an intersting person, and had a past of dealing substances ("knew the street") offered to start a business together. I rejected the offer, it seemed more risky and not the kind of people I'd want ot be associated with
davout: didn't you just say you were broke?
Adlai: indiancandy1: as mircea_popescu loves to say, bitcoin is a priviledge for those who can afford to throw away some money. mostly because you'll find yourself incredibly averse to spending them, once you realize their value
Adlai: even if the value goes up, and saner voices suggest selling for a profit... you'll want it to go highir!
indiancandy1: but i dont get the technical part though
Adlai: which part of it?
kakobrekla: what room is this?
Adlai: (the technical side of bitcoin has several parts which solve different problems)
Adlai: kakobrekla: the sister advice to what i told indiancandy1 is that if you have any money to waste, waste it on btc :)
indiancandy1: i do have money to waiste
mircea_popescu: Adlai incredibly averse < experientia docent ? :)
indiancandy1: you should open a btc consultancy guys
Adlai: ja
brendafdez: either that or a rehab farm
mircea_popescu: <indiancandy1> and the god damn thing aint healed yet << nipple piercings are horribru for this reason.
Adlai: more like Assoholics Anonymous
BingoBoingo: !up cjc
kakobrekla: im not anon
cjc: thx
Adlai: Asscoholics WoTonymous
Adlai: sorry, wotonimous
mircea_popescu: only noobs are anon
Adlai: (when in venice, spell as the roma do)
mircea_popescu: brendafdez it wouldn't be that fat derp what's his face
indiancandy1: hahahaha
indiancandy1: i feel like im kinda addicted to come here
indiancandy1: as i have no work with btc
brendafdez: his face?
mircea_popescu: dante something
brendafdez: can't confirm nor deny, not here at least. This offer happened in mid 2013, before the digicoins name was even invented :P
mircea_popescu: such a fucking derp.
BingoBoingo: indiancandy1: Could be worse. At least you aren't the start meth lab in the aisle at Walmart sort of addict.
BingoBoingo: ;;google walmart methlab trend
gribble: Meth lab uncovered inside restroom at Indiana Walmart | Fox 59: <>; Meth lab found inside Walmart restroom in Indiana | WGN-TV: <>; You Can Find Anything at Walmart ... Even a Meth Lab: (1 more message)
indiancandy1: we dont have walmart here
mircea_popescu: it's asda all the way!
indiancandy1: omg you know!
indiancandy1: im not into drugs
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw re pheasant phuckers :
assbot: Pinky and the Brain, Tongue Twister - YouTube ... ( )
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 how come ?
indiancandy1: i prefer life sover
indiancandy1: i bet you get good cocaine in argentina
brendafdez: there's potential for regret about the things i'm saying here. Shit could end up hitting the fan, like it did with the cam thing.
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 so i hear.
mircea_popescu: brendafdez errything's logged.
indiancandy1: do you dabble?
mircea_popescu: im too rich to do drugs.
brendafdez: when will we have an oficial b-a miranda warning?
indiancandy1: not quite
indiancandy1: most rich people do drugs
indiancandy1: maybe rich in life :)
mircea_popescu: nah. that's poor people trying to see what it's like.
indiancandy1: to happy to need it
indiancandy1: im rich in life
indiancandy1: to do drugs
BingoBoingo: The drugs thing and the bitcoin thing especially don't mix well
cjc: I surmised the ancient Egyptians had monoatomic gold which they snorted and ate --
cjc: and it increased the electromagnetic conductivity of their body system by 10,000 percent
cjc: that must have been like a drug
cjc: building the pyramids with their minds
mircea_popescu: superconducting pharoh.
cjc: yeah, monoatomic gold is a white powder not a metal
mircea_popescu looks through the logs, sees two womenz going "omfg you know" about wildly unrelated shit within the next 10 minutes
mircea_popescu figures he's getting a good deal on that intel dept.
Adlai: brendafdez: we call it the robert paulsen effect
Adlai: !s robert
assbot: 106 results for 'robert' :
mircea_popescu: i thoughjt it was the hungarian spammer effect, robert vigh or w/e it was
Adlai: ;;google robert paulsen
gribble: Rob Paulsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <>; His Name is Robert Paulson - YouTube: <>; Rob Paulsen - IMDb: <>
Adlai: youtube fixed my typo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97300 @ 0.00032713 = 31.8297 BTC [+] {4}
Adlai: hah search.b-a is 3rd on google results for his name
mircea_popescu: !s robert viragh
assbot: 9 results for 'robert viragh' :
brendafdez: i always think being the intel asset is a bad deal, for said asset that it. There always comes a point in which using that information is worth more than keeping the source.
mircea_popescu: this is an argument similar to "there always comes a point when a trusted party runs with the money"
mircea_popescu: this is not actually how life works.
brendafdez: thanks for pointing it out
Adlai: no, this is actually how cancer works
mircea_popescu: for that matter, people who think in simple money terms end up outsourcing their industrial base to china and then wondering where the country went.
mircea_popescu: water is perhaps the best example of strict local optimizer. the water in your cup, much like the water in the hydroplant lake, would very much like to go lower, however... for lack of a direct path, there it stays.
mircea_popescu: easy to manipulate, easy to defeat. poor strat.
Adlai: water doesn't have a 'strategy' though, same way that corn didn't plan to enslave monkeys to grow more of it
mircea_popescu: well, it could be deemed to have a strategy , reducing to "pursue the shortest term maximal gain"
mircea_popescu: obviously this is not philosophically correct, but for our purpose here imo sufficient
Adlai: this is reducing the word 'strategy' to the same level as 'mobile strategy', 'social strategy', 'cloud strategy', etc
mircea_popescu: but this reduction is adequate given what's being contemplated here.
mircea_popescu: !up indiancandy1
assbot: Shanti Sofia RedLightCentral 10.12.2013 - XVIDEOS.COM ... ( )
brendafdez: youtube-dl was the key to finally going flash-free, such a handy tool
mircea_popescu: cazalla anything good ?
cazalla: doesn't even remove knickers..
cazalla: such a tease, but never delivers the goods
cazalla: don't mind the darker areola, but that's on account pinks are in oversupply down under
mircea_popescu: isn't it unpatriotic to rub it to unenglish roses ?!
mircea_popescu: what'd the queen say!
cazalla: sif she hasn't had her way with the nigro garden over the years
cazalla: gardener even
mircea_popescu: ;;ud sif
gribble: | The SIF is quite adept at hiding his or her fat on the Internet. Usually a LiveJournal or MySpace user, they use Photoshop, high-constrast photos, and strategic ...
cazalla: sif = as if
cazalla: perhaps australian thing, sif i'd know
brendafdez: cazalla, are you the guy i should contact if i want to steal from qntra?
cazalla: steal what? content?
brendafdez: yep :P
brendafdez: I've been translating a couple of articles just three of them, not the press release with the cat poooping, for sure
assbot: qntra | Search Results | Brenda Blog ... ( )
cazalla: i would rather you didn't, but i'm not the type to play whack a mole by sending dmca takedowns
brendafdez: ok, just that, then i won't do it
brendafdez: just those three
cazalla: if you stick around, there is no reason why you couldn't write for qntra itself
brendafdez: but i like writing in spanish
brendafdez: if there aren't many sane voices in the english bitcoin space, imagine what it's like in spanish-land
cazalla: that's ok, perhaps we set you up as the spanish correspondent
mircea_popescu: it's a news site tho. i dun see it'd damage anything if she translates to spanish, provided something reasonable like say articles are a week old.
Adlai: there is also no reason why qntra qldn't issue shares for translations
brendafdez: so, qntra translations seemed cool :P, i atributed them, of course, but i know that's technically not enough
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i thought she meant copy/pasta word for word, english to spanish, i wouldn't have known unless she said so anyway
mircea_popescu: well if it's english to spanish it's necessarily not word for word, they use different words en castellan
Adlai: why not have language sections on qntra, with some lesser share issuence for translations?
mircea_popescu: Adlai because of the can of worms that "lesser share" opens
cazalla: if qntra were to ever publish in another language, chinesey and spanish would be the top 2 imo
mircea_popescu: prolly, yea
mircea_popescu: it is a huge language space, even if atm bitcoin poor.
Adlai: the only can opener in town belongs to qntra's editor in chief
mircea_popescu: Adlai nah, this is equity.
Adlai: ok, to the board, and they can put it to shareholder vote
Adlai: 3.2e
cazalla: brendafdez, anyway i only ask you refrain from reposting english articles, if you wish to translate ones to spanish, go for it but as mircea_popescu, perhaps give our own articles some time before doing so
mircea_popescu: shares don't vote, but anyway.
assbot: S.QNTR last 9477@0.00021105 ... ( )
mircea_popescu: (e) S.QNTR shares do not have voting rights. ?
cazalla: as he said i meant to say (i'm tired)
Adlai is baffled by this discouragement of widening the audience
mircea_popescu: how's anything discouraged!
cazalla: hardly discouraged, a writer would earn a good amount of s.qntr translating our english articles
mircea_popescu: yeah, brendafdez why not do it directly for qntra ? you got a gpg id now and errything
mircea_popescu: cazalla does she get half share for translation or what ?
cazalla: indiancandy1, looks like you were upstaged by another indian named baby doll?
assbot: BABY Doll is a Copy of Shanti Dynamite - Video Dailymotion ... ( )
cazalla: mircea_popescu, to be discussed i guess
brendafdez: doing it directly for qntra would certainly be even better than just having permission to keep doing it on my own
mircea_popescu: brendafdez for that matter, you're fluent enough in english, can write news in english too
mircea_popescu: iirc cazalla was always short hands
brendafdez: but i don't like english ;) just wait until I've spent a few more btc and then I'll take anything :D
cazalla: bwahaa "The hot and sensuous Playboy host Shanti Dynamite has become the first Indian to get her nipples pierced and has thus created history."
mircea_popescu: last guy that liked english lived in like 1890
mircea_popescu: is that even true indiancandy1 ?!
mircea_popescu: i thought india fucking invented piercing, spread to arabs from there.
assbot: Shanti Dynamite's Painful Piercing - Exclusive Coverage - Video Dailymotion ... ( )
indiancandy1: wasim shower
indiancandy1: was in shower
indiancandy1: what happened
mircea_popescu: there's worse places.
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 so are you earning 0.1 btc with your tits that made history yet ?
indiancandy1: whats 0.1
mircea_popescu: i dunno, like 30 bux
indiancandy1: i make more babes
indiancandy1: come on
mircea_popescu: i guess gotta wait for btc to go up moar.
mircea_popescu: !up indiancandy1
indiancandy1: i dont use btc
indiancandy1: for work
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 09:53:29; indiancandy1: but i dont get the technical part though
assbot: Bitcoin - Overview - YouTube ... ( )
indiancandy1: i mean like if i buy bitcoin
indiancandy1: i gota constantly watch it and stuff i dont even know how to count just about
indiancandy1: so if i cant count normal numbers cant surely cant btc
mircea_popescu: you don;'t have to watch it, think of it as your retirement.
mircea_popescu: what you gonna do when you're old ?
indiancandy1: no clue
cazalla: she's gonna be a young starlet forever!
indiancandy1: ahaha never
Adlai: well, you do need to watch out that you don't use bad security practices; the equivalent of not leaving wads of cash lying around in a busy restaurant when you go to the bathroom
indiancandy1: this guy who has a tv show on sahara 1 called kismat connections
indiancandy1: basically a fotune teller type neurology fellow
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 lemme show you something. << bunch of dumb cocksuckers on a stripper forum were offered 1 btc free in 2012, wouldn't take it. was >1000 dollars.
assbot: Various kinds of stickiness pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( )
indiancandy1: told me i will have to overcome major obstacles but i will be succesful
Adlai: but if you've used good security initially, you don't need to "watch over" your bitcoin
assbot: No One Understands Bitcoins [Garlic Jackson Comedy] - YouTube ... ( )
mircea_popescu: today's 0.1 btc may well be a fortune in a few years.
Adlai: brendafdez: hey now, i linked the 10min khanacademy, not the five-hours-and-counting princeton lectures
indiancandy1: the girls vagina on the left looks like a donner kebab
indiancandy1: to much meat going on
cazalla: i don't mind that indiancandy1 :)
indiancandy1: mircea you look like lincoln
indiancandy1: in ur pic
cazalla: media might have you believe its men pushing women into labiaplasty but there you go, proof positive it's other bitches
indiancandy1: i read something about a 13 yr old not being laid
indiancandy1: wtf who condones such shit
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 i was going more for lenin
indiancandy1: it has a flower
indiancandy1: growing in between her legs
indiancandy1: creature
indiancandy1: growler
mircea_popescu: you been showering in whiskey hon ?
cazalla: just the thought eh BingoBoingo
mircea_popescu: cazalla try it sometime, drink champagne offa da twists.
cazalla: ;;ud twists
gribble: | twist. a derogatory term used for someone who gets their kicks by playing mind games or toys with people's hearts. So she lead me on and then told me she was  ...
mircea_popescu: nah, irish for chick. like bird, ride is english for same.
cazalla: akay
indiancandy1: i like ur dress sense mp
mircea_popescu: and ironically, cunt = guy.
indiancandy1: cunt means pussy
cazalla: mircea_popescu, yeah we use cunt here often
mircea_popescu: ;;google bigby was a hard cunt, but he wasn;t hard enough he didn't shit it at the thought of 20 years in gaol.
gribble: Trainspotting (1996) - Quotes - IMDb: <>; Previously On: The Wolf Among Us - "Cry Wolf" - Giant Bomb: <>; To all the people who shot ***** - Telltale Community - Telltale Games: (1 more message)
davout: cazalla: lol
davout: such downunderness
indiancandy1: mp you should invest in me
cazalla: apparently cunt is quite offensive in the us
indiancandy1: btw did you watch 50shades
mircea_popescu: but your best assets are goingdown not up.
indiancandy1: aahahah
indiancandy1: u got jokes
mircea_popescu: cazalla only to pussies.
indiancandy1: cunt is very british
mircea_popescu: alrighty cuties, i'll be off to go watch 50 shades of gray live.
indiancandy1: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
indiancandy1: where my invite
indiancandy1: take pics
davout: for my fellow dutch speakers
brendafdez: doesn't the throat suffer from speaking dutch all day?
davout: :D
davout: i speakk french all day, kind of ashamed of my dutch atm
brendafdez: back before i lost my German to rust, i would hear people speak dutch and it felt like the broken dialect of those who couldn't speak with the mouth
brendafdez: the same happens to me with portuguese, which i walways perceive as broken spanish
davout: yeah, to me a german speaker sounds like a dutch speaker on cocaine
brendafdez: interesting stuff
brendafdez: cocaine, i mean
davout: lol
davout: does anyone here have stable nodes that I can add in my bitcoin.conf?
danielpbarron: height=283309 vs height=211544
danielpbarron: ;;later tell mod6 << what's that thing you want me to do? I commented out "strip bitcoind"
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Curiosity and Ignorance (Or – Why expat life appeals to your inner child) ... ( )
danielpbarron: !up shinohai
shinohai: ty danielpbarron. how goes it in the land of #bitcoin-assets
danielpbarron: it goes alright
danielpbarron: what brings you here?
danielpbarron: !up shinohai
shinohai: I lurk in here from time to time and read logs. Good community fr me to stay informed regarding bitcoin.
Adlai: better open your mouth and be corrected an idiot, than remain silent and drift about
shinohai: lol true.
shinohai: i am a bit of a bitcoin purist
kakobrekla: altcryptoextremist? allah akbar!
shinohai: I'm more if it isn't broke, why fix it kind of guy.
danielpbarron: !up shinohai
danielpbarron: shinohai, are you familiar with GPG?
chetty: <shinohai> I'm more if it isn't broke, why fix it kind of guy.// more of these needed in the world
nubbins`: chetty also more "if it's broke, fix it" people needed
nubbins`: man, that's a good cup of coffee.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27600 @ 0.00030874 = 8.5212 BTC [-]
mod6: danielpbarron: hi, so it looks like you built OpenSSL, BDB and Boost I'm guessing by the look of that log file? Now it looks like you need to compile bitcoin v0.5.3.1
mod6: What arch are you on x32|x64?
mod6: Anyway, if x32 ( I remember this had problems last week ) I'd be awesome if you could execute: `readelf --dynamic bitcoin/src/bitcoind`, but you have to have bitcoind built first.
mod6: s/I'd/It'd/
danielpbarron: that was the thing
mod6: Sorry?
danielpbarron: the one linked on the front page of the foundation
mod6: I still don't follow.
mod6: Yeah, I linked the script (v0.0.5) + signature to the website.
mod6: oh, I see what you did. heheh. Yeah, you need to have a directory of patched v0.5.3.1 source in 'bitcoin' first.
mod6: then place in the same directory as 'bitcoin', then execute.
nubbins`: is this an arm cross-compile on x(32/64)?
mod6: nubbins`: no.
nubbins` wanders
mod6: v0.5.3.1-release is going to be x64 linux only.
nubbins`: proper thing
mod6: anyway, i'm in the process for rolling this release, so part of what I'm doing is putting the scripts required to build (such as on the website for reference.
nubbins`: i got bogged down last night trying to cross-compile arch linux for the pogo. osx is no fun
nubbins`: well. resolving clang/gcc incompatibilities is no fun
mod6: *nod*, yeah i truthfully don't know much about the entire pogo thing.
nubbins`: if i had a vanilla linux box here, it'd likely be no sweat
nubbins`: binutils really doesn't like clang
mod6: <+kakobrekla> altcryptoextremist? allah akbar! << lol
mod6: danielpbarron: so yeah, some extra instructions up there probably would have helped huh. i'll de-link those later.
mod6: i have this idea in my mind that people know what stuff is i guess.
mod6: turns out, lol, that's not true.
mod6: the release tarball will end up being linked up there. and the containing RELEASE_NOTES.txt file will point to the patch/script tarballs up there just so they're availble individually somewhere.
mod6: speaking of which, with any luck, I might have RC1 rolled by late tonight.
mod6: it'd would be cool, when i give you guys a link, if you could pull it down, and build it. (if you have a linux x64 machine, if not, don't bother)
nubbins`: i'll try it here just for badness
mod6: sweet nubbins`, thanks.
mod6: could be tonight, tomorrow on MPEx's birthday at the latest.
thestringpuller: mod6: is going to be x64 linux only << Why you disenfranchising 32bit users!
nubbins`: may not be linux but it's still POSIX compliant 8)
nubbins`: since 10.6! i had no idea)
mod6: for some reason, the only person built it on x32, and it didn't work. and I don't have time to work on that.
mod6: patches are welcome if you want to work on that.
mod6: otherwise that'll be available at a later time.
danielpbarron: why does everyone have 64 now?
mod6: bah. *only one person built it on x32
nubbins`: danielpbarron 'cos it's 2015 :/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45282 @ 0.00031566 = 14.2937 BTC [+]
mod6: anyway, it certainly is a goal to support x32. it'll just be in the next release. this has been dragging out too long.
mod6: need to get this one wrapped up.
nubbins`: finish making the suit before you hem the pants
mod6: *nod* and as previously discussed, we'll be doing shorter release cycles going forward. none of this 4.5 month type stuff if possible.
mod6: bottom line here is, we don't wanna paint ourselves into a corner. so we're going to work towards shorter releases.
nubbins`: early/often is the way to go
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu << [guest article] mega-l0l on 'colour revolutions', 'orcs vs humans' dynamic, zombie hordes of victoria nulands, and other joys of modern geodiddlomatics and usgmancy
assbot: ClubOrlov: The Rage of the Cultural Elites ... ( )
gribble: Error: "guest" is not a valid command.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu << (guest article) mega-l0l on 'colour revolutions', 'orcs vs humans' dynamic, zombie hordes of victoria nulands, and other joys of modern geodiddlomatics and usgmancy
assbot: ClubOrlov: The Rage of the Cultural Elites ... ( )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: 'The Victoria Nuland clone army, like a cruel, evil, insidious high school rumor, like the reflection of a witch’s face in a polluted river, spread and flew into every crevice and corner of this land, high and low, far and wide. We encounter her avatars and lookalikes everywhere—in Hollywood, in the publishing houses, universities, school boards, kindergartens, in elevators on the way to our offices, and of course, on the
asciilifeform: pages of the Washington Post and the New York Times.'
chetty: G4 magnetic storm for you guys in the northern Hemi, might want to unplug anything that doesnt have a surge protector
asciilifeform: 100% inverter-power here (the mains current in this town is, well, soviet-grade)
chetty: somehow I knew asciilifeform would be fully ready :D
assbot: CanaryInTheMine is further abusing the trust system [Edit] ... ( )
nubbins`: hay look mircea_popescu got paraphrased
thestringpuller refreshes contravex
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: lol working on it ;)
pete_dushenski: cobbling through my plane ride notes
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell mircea_popescu how could i miss that nice argentinean girl's flattering translation ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: back in canadia-land?
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: indeed!
pete_dushenski: and a little more tanned than usual
pete_dushenski: i'm not much for the beach
pete_dushenski: but the hotel had a couple of tennis courts and the head pro was a beauty so i played with him for a few hours here and there
pete_dushenski: he trains the national junior squad, one of whom we even had as our ball boy !
pete_dushenski: i'd never had a ball boy before and it. was. sweet.
pete_dushenski: desmond brown was the name of the pro
thestringpuller: lol i have a few jamaican coworkers
thestringpuller: i constantly troll them cause they write Visual C#
pete_dushenski: i'd almost go back just to hang out with him
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: lol those rastas!
thestringpuller: were you there on spring breaka
pete_dushenski: sorta kinda but really more just a(nother) trip
pete_dushenski: i'm not in school
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: retired traveller
pete_dushenski: only semi!
pete_dushenski: there's quite the jamaican diaspora
pete_dushenski: here it's nurses, some places i guess it's coders
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: where do you live again ?
pete_dushenski: all i remember is somewhere in usia
pete_dushenski: the interesting part of the jamaican diaspora is that... they go back after a few decades!
pete_dushenski: strangest diaspora i ever did hear of
thestringpuller: i live in the lost city of Atlanta
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell peterl as if scoopbot's continued ignorance of contravex weren't enough... " Warning: file_get_contents( [function.file-get-contents]: failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.1 504 Gateway Time-out in /home/btcscoop/public_html/bablogs/index.php on line 8" on
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: ah yes, ty
thestringpuller: oh wow the scoop is down!
thestringpuller: alright pete_dushenski I will talk to you soon. I'm off to brave the traffic for lunch.
thestringpuller: i'll keep refreshing contravex ;)
pete_dushenski: cheers mate!
assbot: I introduced Bitcoin to a room full of people and was applauded : Bitcoin ... ( )
nubbins`: no need to click, all relevant info in page title.
nubbins`: FWIW, 541 upvotes
nubbins`: "You're doing a great service to this community. Thank you."
pete_dushenski: "Bitcoin can power the Internet of Things (IoT). Vending machines could order their own new merchandise, replacement parts, etc. Self-driving cars could pay for faster lanes, toll roads, etc. to speed up your trip (borrowed that idea from a Winklevoss talk)." << goodness gracious
pete_dushenski: "Everything is tiny in the grand scheme!" << hey, reddit commenter understands his own impotence. progress!
assbot: Someone On a British Airways Plane Took a Shit So Bad That It Had to Turn Around and Come Back Again | VICE | Canada ... ( )
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: brave the traffic for lunch?
ben_vulpes: cars are just such a bad idea.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41150 @ 0.00032681 = 13.4482 BTC [+]
Adlai: who are the golang fanboys here? artifexd etal, anyoya read CSP or some of the descendant literature?
assbot: Primitivity and advancement. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( )
assbot: Bitcoin: The New Gold Standard - YouTube ... ( )
Adlai: pete_dushenski: what's that mural
pete_dushenski: it's in melbourne at the central train terminal
pete_dushenski: flinders street railway station
pete_dushenski: opened in 1854 though the mural is a newer addition
Adlai likes it, too bad it's in foster's hellhole
pete_dushenski: like foster the beer ? or...
assbot: Foster's rule - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( )
pete_dushenski: "he proposed the simple explanation that smaller creatures get larger when predation pressure is relaxed (due to the absence of some of the predators of the mainland) and larger creatures become smaller when food resources are limited (due to land area constraints)."
Adlai: except in the case of australia, where everything gets larger
Adlai: thus - hellhole.
pete_dushenski: eh not sure i buy this "rule"
Adlai: good thing it's not for sale!
pete_dushenski: no doubt that oz has some large spiders and whatnot
assbot: Island gigantism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( )
Adlai: this is a "rule" in the same sense that evolution is "more than just a theory"
Adlai: simplest known explanation for the observed facts
pete_dushenski: why grow larger when predation pressure is reduced though ?
pete_dushenski: why not just multiply in greater numbers ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 100 @ 0.04000001 = 4 BTC [-] {5}
pete_dushenski: dinosaurs were freaking enormous and had plenty of predation pressures
pete_dushenski: it seems to me that diversity and complexity explain smaller animals
pete_dushenski: that is, more diversity and complexity in an environment will lead to smaller, more nimble animals with shorter gestations
Adlai: it's an adjustment of the available organisms to the available niches
Adlai: you don't always get larger animals, foster's rule just talks about _change_
Adlai: although a medium predator which migrates to a new land where it's the largest predator will find little resistance in becoming a stronger, larger, etc predator (up to a point, but that point will be larger than its current size)
pete_dushenski: you might see more diversity in the new environment but why larger and stronger ?
pete_dushenski: it's already large and strong enough to be top dog
pete_dushenski: it'd be expensive to support a larger organism and might crush the supporting food web
Adlai: these fresh arrivals came from a place where they experienced downwards pressure from larger predators
pete_dushenski: and now they're in a new environment without said pressures
Adlai: their size upon arrival is already the product of those expenses, but together with additional competition from larger animals, forcing them further down
pete_dushenski: maybe down in numbers but why also down in size ?
pete_dushenski: why aren't there then mini-zebras roaming the serengetti
Adlai: smaller organisms are more efficient
Adlai: ... up to a point
Adlai: (muscle power varies by the cross-sectional area, but the weight it must move varies by the volume)
Adlai: in general though these are all nonlinear advantages, and their nonlinearity varies among ecosystems
chetty: <<< still wonders how dinosaurs even walked ...wouldn't they need steel bones to hold up all that mass?
Adlai: slowly.
Adlai: the ones that ran - velocipator, orinthomimus - weren't larger than say a stallion
mircea_popescu: and for good reason, too.
mircea_popescu: mostly to do with cooling.
pete_dushenski: ya, i don't suppose dinos sweated
mircea_popescu: nope. reptiles generally work on the principle of the wound spring in more than one respect.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ironically enough, i consider myself cultural elites. cause if not that, wtf else.
mircea_popescu: i get it that everyone everywhere, say the derps on argentina, or the derps on the internet exactly alike and exactly for the same reasons identifies as this "workman" bullshit.
mircea_popescu: but for one thing it's bullshit and for the other thing, it doesn't really wash.
pete_dushenski: reptiles: springs, mammals: internal combustion
mircea_popescu: workable analogy imo.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: what's your take on this "foster's rule" thing ?
mircea_popescu: seems to fit the data.
pete_dushenski: hm ok, i'll take
pete_dushenski: "Compliance startup Chainalysis was forced to defend itself today after allegations its surveillance tactics had disrupted services and threatened the privacy of bitcoin users.
pete_dushenski: The Swiss company, headed by ex-Kraken COO Michael Grønager and former Mycelium engineer Jan Møller, created over 250 'false' bitcoin nodes to harvest information on the whereabouts of transactions. The firm claims these nodes have now been shut down."
pete_dushenski: ^cazalla BingoBoingo thestringpuller
mircea_popescu: "we got better at hiding them nao"
assbot: Is someone monitoring large parts of the network? (evidence+firwall rules) ... ( )
mircea_popescu: really there was absolutely no reason (apart from their tim swansonesque contemptuous idiocy) to make the nodes visible.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform : "It so happened that my aunt, then a sensitive and somewhat dreamy young woman, had stubbornly and haplessly clung to certain musical tastes which at that time in China came to be regarded as politically incorrect, being said, in the trendy ideological jargon of that time, to reflect “decadent bourgeois revisionist aesthetics.” To wit, my aunt had kept in her record collection a rendition of “The
mircea_popescu: Urals Mountain-Ash” (Уральская Рябинушка), a Russian folk song in which a young girl meets two nice boys under a mountain-ash tree and must choose between them"
mircea_popescu: i agree with the chinese. the part where the young girl chooses is utterly burgeois, and the part where a choice is made is definitely reactionary.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: have nodes always been "visible" ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski not the point. the point is that if you make a spy node, you have no conceivable reason to make it act outwardly in any way other than a common node.
mircea_popescu: these were fucking broken, mostly because the "Swiss company" is a bunch of poor ass niggards with delusions of grandeur.
mircea_popescu: "in 1972, which culminated in Nixon's historic handshake with Mao Zedong, completing China's civilizational pivot away from the USSR and toward the west. In hindsight, this dramatic opening could only be properly characterized as a swift dagger-in-the-back against the USSR"
mircea_popescu: motherfucker, these ignorant clods. asciilifeform srsly, cluborlov is this collection of almanach-educated twerps.
nubbins`: niggards!
nubbins`: that's more germanic of you than usual
mircea_popescu: ;;google niggardly
gribble: Controversies about the word "niggardly" - Wikipedia, the free ...: <>; Urban Dictionary: niggardly: <>; Niggardly - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster ...: <>
mircea_popescu: i guess swedish counts as german.
pete_dushenski: such controversy
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski no but it is typical of what i'm talking about.
mircea_popescu: some people who don't own a dictionary got opinions about the usage of words.
mircea_popescu: some people who don't own a history book gather on a blogspot to emit nonsense.
mircea_popescu: same principle.
pete_dushenski: likewise, some people who don't own a bitcoin gather around a reddit to imagine they matter
mircea_popescu: and on and on and fucking on it goes!
nubbins`: again:
assbot: I introduced Bitcoin to a room full of people and was applauded : Bitcoin ... ( )
mircea_popescu: virgins experts in dating, dependent adolescents experts in "making money", otakus writing books on how to meet and influence people, etc etc etc.
pete_dushenski: only the cultists see the light eh
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: once was enough
nubbins`: nevermind that this is not evidence of the awesomeness of bitcoin, but of the fact that the audience was at least feigning politeness
Adlai: mircea_popescu: what's your take on this "what's your take" thing?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` clearly if he was applauded by a whole roomfull of people he's not a total failure.
nubbins`: right?
nubbins`: ultimate validation
mircea_popescu: Adlai i dunno.
nubbins`: he probably took a bow
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i once took a girl out to the very nice theatre in my home town, 1800s baroque building, and we sat in the presidential seats and at some point i started applauding
mircea_popescu: and the whole fucking hall started applauding
mircea_popescu: she was... a little unraveled.
mircea_popescu: (tru story, too)
mircea_popescu: but it was a coincidence.
nubbins`: not bad
Adlai: dev behind popular open-source-closed-dev spv wallet is also behind a sybil attack to correlate transactions with jurisdictions... so that's why local trader is so cheap!
nubbins`: i started a slow-clap once that spread to about 7k people
mircea_popescu: Adlai heh.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` it's infectious, right ?
nubbins`: esp. if you look around and nod while you're doing it
Adlai: was the theater clap not at a typical claptime?
mircea_popescu: these weren't even 1k, and romanians are very herdy animals, and were more so back then.
mircea_popescu: Adlai was not.
mircea_popescu: so i'm having cognac and chocolate cookies for breakfast at 3pm. this can't be bad for me, can it ?
Adlai: doesn't have to be 'coincidence' though, could just be that you reacted fastest out of all the clappy folk, giving the illusion of causality/coincidence
Adlai: long as the choclate's dark
mircea_popescu: Adlai the bit was to my taste, which is why i clapped. my tastes are rather... odd, but i guess it's possibru.
mircea_popescu: it is, yes.
mircea_popescu: brendafdez: the same happens to me with portuguese, which i walways perceive as broken spanish << to me it sounds like a bunch of russians trying to pretend they're speaking latin.
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 14:03:07; chetty: <shinohai> I'm more if it isn't broke, why fix it kind of guy.// more of these needed in the world
mircea_popescu: "Citizens ask for permission, expats ask for forgiveness" << maybe he should ask for a nailgun.
Adlai: I Asked For A Railgun But All I Got Was This Northop-Grumman T-Shirt
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 14:46:42; nubbins`: i got bogged down last night trying to cross-compile arch linux for the pogo. osx is no fun
nubbins`: hey now
mircea_popescu: next we're gonna be fixing fags and jews.
nubbins`: watch who you're calling a fanboi!
mircea_popescu: #bitcoin-aryan
mircea_popescu: << having never looked at those, what % would you say are deliberate / marketing dept induced, and what % are inept / engineering dept induced ?
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 14:47:01; nubbins`: well. resolving clang/gcc incompatibilities is no fun
mircea_popescu: << and your excuse would be that it's perl anyway, right ? :D
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 14:50:43; mod6: i have this idea in my mind that people know what stuff is i guess.
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field
Adlai: aryan humor: cd /usr && ln -s usr ich
Adlai: er shit, s/usr//
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: hall started applauding << did it come with a built-in 'stop clap bell' ?
ascii_field: (iirc stalin's courtiers invented these)
mircea_popescu: lol nope. i am aware i sound more and more hruschev-ian, but no, i didn't have a bunch of muscle with clubs interspersed in the general public.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: ...or the derps on the internet exactly alike and exactly for the same reasons identifies as this "workman" bullshit << wai wat. confused
ascii_field: if you make a spy node, you have no conceivable reason to make it act outwardly in any way other than a common node << that this was a secret to anyone, is profoundly mindfucking
mircea_popescu: ascii_field what is "Are ‘we’—the Americans I have lived and studied and worked with for years" and "who once made a living hell out of our fresh, green and naïve college days" iuf not direct translation of "we the workers" ?
Adlai: the whole security model of bitcoin is that every node is a spy node
ascii_field: that it was detectable suggests an intimidation play - 'we're watching' - rather than actual intent to grab useful info
Adlai: !s malice incompetence
assbot: 19 results for 'malice incompetence' :
mircea_popescu: ascii_field it is not a secret to anyone except the completely imbecile "experts" the usg has historically and continues to "use" in it's quest to build itself as a bitcoin power independent from mpex.
mircea_popescu: so far this is progressing admirably.
mircea_popescu: Adlai you don't say.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field no dude, it's a simple, 5 yo would want to pretend she's a sophisticated college student like her old sister, so she does the best she can.
mircea_popescu: in this case, she's reading das kaptial held upside down.
ascii_field: latipak sad.
mircea_popescu: that's the la hockey team right ?
ascii_field: these schmucks could have hired a kid who handles, e.g., botnets, for a fraction of the cost
ascii_field: or a starving maths grad student, same
ascii_field: and, imho, bitcoin doesn't 'really work' unless it can laugh off everybody on the planet doing the sibyl crap all day, every day
mircea_popescu: ascii_field you miss the point where they do not wish to do that, for exactly the reasons i will not hire tim swanson.
mircea_popescu: and there are no uppity white kids in stanford running botnets
mircea_popescu: so they're stuck.
ascii_field: well yes, 'aryans only'
mircea_popescu: well so then.
mircea_popescu: if they don't let THEIR boys rape and i do, when it comes to war my boys will rape their boys and that's that.
ascii_field: but they could conceivably build a sharashka
ascii_field: for 'untermenschen' to toil, uncredited, in
mircea_popescu: but i appreciate the opportunity to check this out experimentally - gangrape is fun for a majority of those involved.
mircea_popescu: they could, if they had a stalin.
mircea_popescu: they don't have a stalin.
mircea_popescu: in fact, they don't even have the vague approximation of a stalin where a guy says to his golddigger harpy "if you fuck another black man i'm going tyo hung you both by your toes, and if you struggle i won't let you go", and then does it when she fucks another black guy.
mircea_popescu: they don't have as much of a stalin as a uni professor that goes " all women, stand up and strip naked or go the fuck home".
mircea_popescu: this is a very small amount of stalin to not have.
ascii_field: how am i to know that, e.g., dick cheney, isn't hunting little gurlz for sport in arizona desert as we speak ?
ascii_field: or hanging his mistress by the toe
mircea_popescu: are you just pursuing this for the sake of the theoretical purity or do you actually hold this view ?
ascii_field: just confessing that it isn't clear to me that such a thing is impossible or even improbable
ascii_field: but i've no intel. team, yes.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> are you just pursuing this for the sake of the theoretical purity or do you actually hold this view ? << Well Cheney did have a good humor about shooting his patron in the face
mircea_popescu: (the first cvasi-stalin is, of course, Donald Sterling. the second is, of course, that guy with the "women in scinece" what's his name. i'm noteven going into the story of petreus)
ascii_field distinctly recalls mircea_popescu's 'he is not lizardhitler who does his hitlering in private only'
ascii_field: but as i gather, the usg-elite consciously walks this line - unlimited debauchery in private, idiot paper-pushing in public
mircea_popescu: what, exactly, is this debauchery ?
mircea_popescu: like, you ever drove by the walled compound where some general is keeping his harem ?
mircea_popescu: no, brunei and saudi arabia elite walks this line.
mircea_popescu: the us is a bunch of impoverished derps with airs.
mircea_popescu: "oh, the luxury of paying 48658609485609850 for a condo."
mircea_popescu: "yeah, well done."
ascii_field underscores that he does not know anything re: how ted turner of w. buffett pass their time, or did when young men - but has quasi-educated guess that may or may not be worth the neurons it's printed on
mircea_popescu: you know plenty of how wb passed / passes his time, he's quite public about it.
mircea_popescu: indescript house in omaha, married, with children. about as boring as it gets.
mircea_popescu: nttawwi, on the grounds of one man, he can do w/e the fuck he pleases.
mircea_popescu: but, again, how many walled compounds are in wash dc holding the harems of obama, the shah of this and the bey of that ?
ascii_field: but what kind of lizard aristocrat is that. pssh.
mircea_popescu: visit brunei sometime, for srsly.
mircea_popescu: preferably take a girl with you, can prolly get a decent price.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: actually there are tremendously posh residences, complete with tall walls, here - ones which would not look entirely out of place in brunei
mircea_popescu: you're eliding my main point.
mircea_popescu: else what, the world government is in gizeh, egypt ? poshest uninhabited structures on earth ?
ascii_field: so mircea_popescu tells us that total brezhnevification in usa ? the aristos sit & nervously smoke all day, and nurse their arthritis ?
mircea_popescu: it is my understanding.
BingoBoingo: Doesn't seem wrong
mircea_popescu: the people who try to have a good time are generally 2nd or 3rd echelon,
mircea_popescu: and in fact it goes as far as to work for a sign. does he look like he's having a good time ? he has no power.
mircea_popescu: which is a large part of what's so confounding about yours truly, in those quarters.
mircea_popescu: schroedinger mp.
mircea_popescu: << hey, great piece. congrats to the winners.
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 15:55:40; nubbins`: hay look mircea_popescu got paraphrased
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: recall limonov's piece re: herr gadaffi ?
ascii_field: it was about entirely this
mircea_popescu: i guess so.
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> << having never looked at those, what % would you say are deliberate / marketing dept induced, and what % are inept / engineering dept induced ? <<< on the surface, it's just shirt buttons on the left side vs the right.
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 14:47:01; nubbins`: well. resolving clang/gcc incompatibilities is no fun
nubbins`: i.e. places where there's wiggle room in the spec, one zigs where the other zags
ascii_field: !s llvm
assbot: 34 results for 'llvm' :
ascii_field: ^ some good material in log re: how and why it came to exist at all
mircea_popescu: i dunno if i'm the only one who saw brasil - but whenever i see that sorta thing i remember the workmen that cut the holes for the police to bust into homes.
nubbins`: as usual, alf has a better understanding than i
ascii_field: one of the greatest films about essence of usg
mircea_popescu: it's pretty good. maybe i'm distributring name tags at conference all reading Mr. Tuttle
nubbins`: w/ deniro?
ascii_field: Buttle
ascii_field: mega-film.
ascii_field heartily recommends 'brazil' to everyone
mircea_popescu: certainly put gilliam on the map for me. and then imaginarium...
ascii_field: another mega-film!
mircea_popescu: you seen imaginarium nubbins` ?
mircea_popescu: that and barbarella is what i imagine you grew up on.
BingoBoingo: Everyone knows mircea_popescu grew up on Dallas
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
assbot: Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( )
assbot: Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( )
assbot: Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( )
assbot: Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( )
assbot: La Terra Trema pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( )
mircea_popescu: the english stuff i saw much later.
jurov: ben_vulpes rly? you want patches for makeshift build scripts?
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 05:07:10; ben_vulpes: ;;later tell jurov << why not a patch file for this? just to make me diff it myself?
jurov: mod6 you see, we have a release indeed. ppl demand patchezzz!!!
BingoBoingo: Release party!
mircea_popescu: << it's BELL boy. as aptly explained for tim roth's benefit in 4 rooms, "they ring the bell, ya hop!"
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 16:27:58; pete_dushenski: he trains the national junior squad, one of whom we even had as our ball boy !
mircea_popescu: wait, nm. tennis, ma bad.
mircea_popescu: << not really, no. they had a little less preditors than hippos would if there were no humans.
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 18:44:42; pete_dushenski: dinosaurs were freaking enormous and had plenty of predation pressures
pete_dushenski: yes, with the little yellow fuzzy ball!
pete_dushenski: and i'll stop derping about dinos now
mircea_popescu: << by and large, this depends on how you measure efficiency. rabbits are larger than chickens, but more efficient, under the "food to usable foodstuff" conversion paradigm. turkeys are larger than chickens and less efficient. etc.
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 18:50:07; Adlai: smaller organisms are more efficient
mircea_popescu: generally birds are inefficient because of the 42 degrees problem. but also, polar bears eat a lot more than lions, per body kg.
ben_vulpes: 42 degrees problem?
Adlai was referring specifically to growth ratios: quadratic muscle strength vs cubic mass
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: just found out today co-manager is romanian
thestringpuller: you guise be reppin' hard
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes birds maintain 42 degrees body temperatures, vs your 36.5
mircea_popescu: that's expensive at rest (it's also the only reason they can fly, larger buffer to absorb the heat they can't dissipate)
mircea_popescu: (this is why birds hang out in trees while reptiles hang out on rocks - birds need the shade, lizards need the heat)
Adlai: camels have a range of liveable body temperatures, like a reptile but not. verging upon the... reptilian.
pete_dushenski: 42 degrees would, i suppose, explain why there aren't any pterodactyl-sized birds
mircea_popescu: Adlai you ever slept in the desert, camels lined up to break the cold wind ?
assbot: Camel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( )
Adlai: fuxake, we have tents yknow
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski look into large eagles.
Adlai: and armored vehicles
mircea_popescu: Adlai ha! i'm one ahead :D
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> you seen imaginarium nubbins` ? <<< of dr parnassus or w/e?
mircea_popescu: actually chetty was on that trip!
nubbins`: nod. some years back, through a haze of mixed intoxicants: "is that tom waits?"
Adlai has slept in the desert without anything breaking the wind...
Adlai has also ridden camels, but years ago on a school thingy
Adlai: roughly a decade by now, around 5 BC
Adlai: s/C/G/
nubbins`: actually iirc there's a zine somewhere in this house that mentions a woman w the last name popescu
Adlai: "before genesis"
nubbins`: iifrc, the title of the piece was "a list of people whose houses i am no longer allowed in"
assbot: Law enforcement never fails to unintentionally entertain pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( )
mircea_popescu: that's a mildly interesting problem : calculate the probability of naturally occuring exact geometric shapes of a given metal and mass.
Adlai: mircea_popescu: wait so where do the emphases go in your name? MEER-sha po-PES-ku ?
mircea_popescu: first-and-penultimate convention
thestringpuller: I'm going to prounounce is MER-KUH
Adlai: first-and-penultimate is itself first-and-pe-null-tim-et
mircea_popescu: you know you should prolly look into ipa rather than that atrocity w/e it is.
assbot: Scandinavian Men Leaving Feminists to Themselves - The Spearhead ... ( )
Adlai: ipa? atrocity?
mircea_popescu: i dunno what "meer-sha" is supposed to sound like.
mircea_popescu: i know what mirˈt͡ʃe̯a is supposed to sound like
Adlai is biologist today, not philologist
funkenstein_: all this talk of companies losing peoples money makes me think i should give up and just trust some company with all my money
funkenstein_: either that or time to open up a wallet service
Adlai: this is why you should only trust people with your money, never companies
BingoBoingo: I forget what group was behing the silver cold storage buttplug?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60540 @ 0.00031891 = 19.3068 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00032485 = 6.8543 BTC [+]
cazalla: pete_dushenski: it's in melbourne at the central train terminal <<< they've slowly chipped away at that place, replacing the old with the new, personally i don't see it as anything special, stench of stale piss surrounds it
Adlai: sounds like my slum
assbot: Clarity Shines Through The FUD - CBB: CakeBet Blog ... ( )
danielpbarron: that's the nakamoto institute guy
mircea_popescu: with some dubious casino ?
danielpbarron: i wasn't aware of his involvement with that; i just see his name attributed at the end of the article
danielpbarron: !gettrust danielkrawisz
assbot: Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user danielkrawisz: Level 1: -2, Level 2: 1 via 5 connections. | |
mircea_popescu: "Francis Fondant"
PeterL: ;;later tell pete_dushenski I dunno what you're talking about, looks like its working fine for me?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: "Your LinkedIn account says you’re in Sweden, so perhaps English is not your native language. That’s cool. Spanish was my first language, so I feel you. However, your generalization about women is a reprehensible bromide."
mircea_popescu: i just picked myself off the floor
mircea_popescu: << the trouble with the world is that the well informed are weak and the ignorant headstrong.
assbot: Wading In — On Reliable Guides and Bayesianism ... ( )
mircea_popescu: that article should have been dripping invective. but of course, such is not possible. so random internet imbecile reads it and moves on, unbothered. HE IS LESS WRONG
mircea_popescu: and utterly stupid.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: You might enjoy just keep in mind this is one of the devs, don't go all twitter fatwah
BingoBoingo: It sucks that the thing is a slide deck, but at least it is a series of images and not a ppt or pdf turd
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: How's the imac doing?
danielpbarron: very well
danielpbarron: done with g4, now working on a g3
danielpbarron: the hard drives are failing but it's good enough
danielpbarron: i may buy a bunch of ssd drives
BingoBoingo: Replacing those shouldn't be hard
danielpbarron: i think i could resell these things
danielpbarron: openbsd is such a pleasure to work with
danielpbarron: it does exactly what i expect it to do
BingoBoingo: AH, replacing the hard drives requires thermal paste
danielpbarron: yeah replacing parts in mac stuff is not easy but it's not impossible
danielpbarron: i don't know about thermal paste, but it's not like i can just pop off a panel and swap the drive
BingoBoingo: << Part of what you remove to get to the HD connects to the CPU's waste heat removal path
assbot: iMac G4 17" Model M9168LLA Hard Drive Replacement - iFixit ... ( )
BingoBoingo: I'm pretty sure I still have my torx screwdriver for the real B&W Macs somewhere around here
[]bot: Bet placed: 4 BTC for No on "BTC to top $500 before 1st May" Odds: 18(Y):82(N) by coin, 18(Y):82(N) by weight. Total bet: 97.8035122 BTC. Current weight: 50,790.
[]bot: Bet placed: 6 BTC for No on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" Odds: 16(Y):84(N) by coin, 16(Y):84(N) by weight. Total bet: 67.33320426 BTC. Current weight: 90,515.
assbot: /hashtag/OpenBSD?src=hash 5.6 on an Apple iMac G4.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Curious yet to see if the G4 can catch up to the Pogos?
BingoBoingo: !up nubbins`
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: How's your EM storm?
nubbins`: uneventful
BingoBoingo: Sun down yet? Checking for Auroraussifdhauh;wjd;if
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104128 @ 0.00032631 = 33.978 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: nubbins`: did you get Eulora to run?
mircea_popescu: << so is this "the dekulakization is proceeding apace" or is it "insane criminal accidentally confesses" ?
assbot: Police searching Houston home of millionaire Robert Durst - Yahoo News ... ( )
nubbins`: too cloudy for 'em here!
nubbins`: thestringpuller nah
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... << so is this "the dekulakization is proceeding apace" or is it "insane criminal accidentally confesses" ? << One of the Vic's is a "Mob Bosses" daughter so it is time to bring out all the grains of salt.
mircea_popescu: i dunno what value a 3 year old audio testimony produced by a media company with ample access to recordings of the person's voice could be worth in court.
mircea_popescu: if it is worth anything, it is worth anything only through the sheer ignorance / ample cupidity of the jury.
thestringpuller: isn't that the point of a jury?
mircea_popescu: otherwise, i could probably make an audiotrack of obama confessing his erotic dreams of stalin.
nubbins`: thestringpuller actually yes. i did get eulora to run
nubbins`: didn't get it to accept kbd/mouse input
thestringpuller: what platform?
nubbins`: this was a while ago
nubbins`: natch
thestringpuller: ah. damn. i'm trying on ubuntu using chetty 's setup. almost got it. just cal3d is invisible for some reason
thestringpuller: soon. progress. stuff.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` if memory serves the stuff was upgraded once since hten
nubbins`: check against the linux as well as osx install guide on the wiki, might be of some help
nubbins`: mp o!
nubbins`: then maybe i'll have another go
nubbins`: is 0.0.4 latest? that's the one i was messing w/
mircea_popescu: it's latest but old. a new one is in the pipe so give it a few.
danielpbarron: i got eulora to work on gentoo
danielpbarron: i collected items and talked to npcs
danielpbarron: this was weeks ago
mircea_popescu: seems gentoo is going to be a major platform for eulora beta / many things we do.
ben_vulpes: wai no
danielpbarron: at this point i consider gentoo to be the only linux (worth using)
mircea_popescu: should be remembered as "the costs of systemd".
danielpbarron: and openbsd the only bsd
ben_vulpes: gentoo doesn't have systemd?
danielpbarron: it's optional and not default
mircea_popescu: more easily fixed than the rest of 'em.
mircea_popescu: nobody has so far taken a strong "fuck you, and red hat, and the usg" stance. it is likely they never will,
mircea_popescu: preferring instead to write plaintive missives of no value ten years later, like the netbsd derp.
mircea_popescu: "here's how stupid i was and here's what you could learn from it : don't EVER go with the libertard ideology, ever."
mircea_popescu: except not really saying that, because hey, still same dumb, ten years older.
ben_vulpes: and i assume that crystalspace won't build on openbsd?
ben_vulpes: i mean if one's to go off the deep end, why not...go off the deep end?
mircea_popescu: i don't see why not ? c is c.
mircea_popescu: anyway, jurov found a guy willing to do the windows stuff, so there's going to be that, too.
mircea_popescu: im curious how it'll work out.
ben_vulpes: i don't see why not either
ben_vulpes: except that it's not happening.
ben_vulpes: i'd rather assume asshats have good reason for doing what they're doing and that seems the most obvious reason.
mircea_popescu: im open for someone to maintain an openbsd binary.
assbot: [OPEN] Binary maintenance for Eulora pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( )
ben_vulpes: lol well i can't imagine you'd be against it
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: maybe also have update script for dependencies?
thestringpuller: at least windows games install directX before they attempt to install themselves :P
BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron> and openbsd the only bsd << If you tuck it safely behind a wall, FreeBSD kicks ass on storage.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it'll be the maintainer's lot.
mircea_popescu: "Far be it for me to question the veracity of claims made by screenshots of anonymous comments from 4chan, but did anyone bother to stop and ask why a man would be dancing in a room full of people wearing coats?"
BingoBoingo: scoopbot -fetch
mod6: lol, moby offered "services"
mod6: maddox++
mircea_popescu: maddox is like nubbins` on steroids.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nice!
BingoBoingo: You're welcome mircea_popescu
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> and i assume that crystalspace won't build on openbsd? << Don't see how it could be much worse than bitcoin-qt, which is why I am severely undrqualified for this
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114850 @ 0.00032713 = 37.5709 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: "Because if we've learned nothing from Martin Luther King Jr., and we haven't, true diversity comes not from the content of our character, but the color of our skin. And which genitals we have."
asciilifeform: achtung, panzers,
asciilifeform: from macrofab: 'We received your boards today, we expect to have review complete and the boards working as expected tomorrow, I will keep you posted!'
asciilifeform skeptical
BingoBoingo: I'm just thrilled that it appears counterfieting and mislabling just might be so rampant that nothing digital would work if it had to meet analogue standards
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: vendor insists they tested 50 random Rs from spool
asciilifeform: and found none that match my description of the four that ended up on the boards.
asciilifeform: 'my lying eyes'
asciilifeform: incidentally, had i done anything other than what i did - ordering sample rng first - would likely have noticed nothing.
BingoBoingo: Vegans still eat grain even though their eyes don't see the blood of the mice rats, cats, and coons slaughtered by the combine on each grain.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: somebody ought to sell these schmucks a simple protein assayer
asciilifeform: undergrad-level problem.
asciilifeform: and make'em squirm
BingoBoingo: A charitable to the vendor interpretation here is that USPS didn't know you had door camera and you didn't know USPS's official address attached to your domicile is Fort Mead
asciilifeform wonder what the cat ppm is of grain
nubbins`: easy enough to find out the allowed max
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the mail did get in later that day.
asciilifeform: if enemy action - straight sabotage, rather than subversion
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure, my mail occasionally gets registered a bit early or late too. I write it off to lazy mailmail scanning everything at once. Still how lond would it take intermediate site to sabotage
asciilifeform: though there might live somewhere a nitwit so astonoshingly stupid that he might imagine that rng might be screwed into a live battlefield system without test of any kind.
BingoBoingo: Well the partial sybill uncovered spynodes because deviance
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo " I am severely undrqualified for this" said every virgin at her defloration party.
mircea_popescu: i suppose they don't do those statesides ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: perhaps my (1980s) multimeter lies. or i'm simply retarded. or, or, or.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform maybe tell them that if they provide you with a full diagnosis / story of what happened you'll publish the whole thing on your blog,
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not sure if that would encourage or discourage the poor buggers
mircea_popescu: and that they should prolly take advantage of the opportunity seeing how it's widely read by the world's elite such as for instance mpex discussion.
mircea_popescu: but who cares what the effect is ? :)
nubbins`: my arms are cancelled from all that shovelling
asciilifeform: the only reason they even pretend to do this ritual is the dream, i'd guess, of repeat business
asciilifeform: no one breaks a sweat over <1 benjie
mircea_popescu: they may also be doing it for the principle of the thing.
asciilifeform: entirely possible
mircea_popescu: well so then.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i suppose they don't do those statesides ? << Only for the cool virgins
mircea_popescu: yeah kinda how it works.
mod6: anyone wanna give v0.5.3.1 RC1 a try?
mod6: a2d54ff7eebca1340adbe4119eb542db5db0865676b1344f6beaa5fdd0ae6cd8 bitcoin-v0_5_3_1-RC1.tar.gz
mircea_popescu: better snow than shit ey nubbins` ?
nubbins`: you assume 8)
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i actually shovelled snow myself.
BingoBoingo: I'm just glad out snow seems over, lilacs started waking up this week
nubbins`: imagine! :D
nubbins`: light and fluffy or 80% liquid water?
nubbins`: large amt of both types on the ground today ;/
assbot: Jos Basescu! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( )
asciilifeform: "the costs of systemd" << wai wat was this
mircea_popescu: "eulora on gentoo, everything else on gentoo, fu."
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: gentoo doesn't have systemd? << complicated. if you follow the install described in the Handbook, you will almost certainly end up with systemd
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50700 @ 0.00031178 = 15.8072 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know it occurs to me a broad systemd test script would be useful
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: test script ?
asciilifeform: as in, for presence thereof? it's trivial, check the process list
BingoBoingo: nubbins`> large amt of both types on the ground today ;/ << This year aside from October we've just been all light and fluffy
mircea_popescu: it can't run unless it has pid 0 ?
asciilifeform: the thing mutilates the entire system in such ways that there can be no confusion whatsoever about its presence
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu saw the g.o.t. ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: l0l
asciilifeform: 'wide stance' (TM)
asciilifeform: (uttered by american politician, even)
BingoBoingo: Larry Craig (tm)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: game of thrones
mircea_popescu: ah, no. im peripherally aware of it cuz coupla of de girlz are fans
asciilifeform: (exists as a barely readable book series, and a very lulzy tv series)
BingoBoingo: It's basically another hairy twatter fanfic, still not as good as the woodchipper one
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nope
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not all bad phantasy is riff on hp
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It didn't start that way, but it is headed there.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there's a whole world of it. traditionally dominated by bad tolkien riffs, but GOT isn't one of these either
asciilifeform: for gentoo n00bz:
asciilifeform: use 'eudev' instead of 'udev'. this zaps the shitgnomotron of artificial dependency on systemd in device hotplugger
asciilifeform: << aaaand there's a bit of instruction here
assbot: Gentoo Without systemd - Gentoo Wiki ... ( )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110683 @ 0.00030836 = 34.1302 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: summary: add '-systemd' to USE flags
asciilifeform: and mask systemd and udev in package.mask.
asciilifeform: do this -before- emerging world, or any individual package likely to pull in systemd-isms for that matter.
BingoBoingo is perfectly happy to admit his beloved Breaking Bad is just MacBeth fanfic
asciilifeform is curious whether anyone here 1) does gentoo 2) did not know above recipe
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from what i've seen they mostly do "bad actors in bad period costumes and elevator scripts"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the idiocy of how linux nowadays handles dependencies makes me fucking hate the entire thing.
mircea_popescu: really, solitaire is dependent on networking ? fuck the whole lot of them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gentoo is afaik the last remaining bastion of sanity re: dependencies
asciilifeform: which is to say, they are actually controllable
trinque: -pulseaudio is another good one
trinque: also -dbus
nubbins`: have never used gentoo
mircea_popescu: nubbins` me either. nor would i have considered it, pre debian showing all the leadership of a stale clump of bread.
asciilifeform went straight from msdos to freebsd, then gentoo
nubbins`: i diddled with slackware in my teens, have used debian or a derivation thereof since
mircea_popescu: meanwhile /me has ordered gentoo researched and will probably migrate.
asciilifeform this being whole of what he ever used on pc arch
nubbins`: linux-wise, anyway
mircea_popescu: half my shit is still on sarge
asciilifeform was never eager to run other folks' binaries if there was a way of avoiding it, purely because it never seems to work reasonably well on linux (i always got 'lucky' and libc mismatched)
nubbins`: i recall using VMS on a work term once
nubbins`: bizarre os
asciilifeform likes various gentoo-specific things like automagic cross-compiler toolchain builder
asciilifeform: i do a great bit of cross-compilation.
nubbins`: and my last job, most of the place was mainframes running IBM i
asciilifeform: vms is very interesting from historic perspective and any serious reader of 'the unix hater's handbook' should give it a spin out of purely that
decimation: nubbins`: the aurora should be slightly visible, if you have a dark sky
nubbins`: decimation i'm just outta range
nubbins`: like almost the only place in .ca out of range
decimation: chetty: the G4 global storm is a global phenomenon, still ongoing
decimation: it is maximal opposite the sun; it will move south during the night
decimation: the powerline impacts are probably not detectable on your local line, they affect long distance transmission lines
danielpbarron: 09:48 <+asciilifeform> summary: add '-systemd' to USE flags << ah yes i forgot i had done this
danielpbarron: i have pulseaudio though; why is that bad?
mircea_popescu: it's meh. kinda-works. poettering's previous project.
assbot: Wading In — Chapter 18 - What? ... ( )
mircea_popescu: copilul anal, totally.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> << this shit's something else. << It gets more broken
assbot: Wading In — Chapter 18 - What? ... ( )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67554 @ 0.00032508 = 21.9605 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: !up coalbe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93850 @ 0.00032762 = 30.7471 BTC [+] {3}
decimation: re: systemd-free gentoo < < there's also funtoo which is apparently a light variant on gentoo which specifically excludes systemd
assbot: Funtoo Linux ... ( )
decimation: I haven't used it, but it ought to deliver a gentoo-like experience (uses the same repository afaik)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 159013 @ 0.00030578 = 48.623 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: !up TheNewDeal
decimation: daniel robbins (original man behind gentoo) runs funtoo
TheNewDeal: Why thank you
TheNewDeal: ;;Later tell TomServo Ill be around wednesday evening to Sunday evening. Send me a message
gribble: The operation succeeded.
danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.brendafdez.1:223f3415b24ac435db9d16f55b3ba58fe472795065787d7fcf3bf3a418da91af
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for brendafdez with note: no such thing as a chick that can pgp
nubbins`: with a name like funtoo
decimation: apparently john carmack is a fan of the 'racket' language
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22199 @ 0.00030356 = 6.7387 BTC [-]
decimation: apparently it's a scheme variant with tons of junk glommed on
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 120372 @ 0.0002981 = 35.8829 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: I'll check again in a couple hours, bu we may have aurora building visible here
assbot: Is using encryption suspicious? Half of Americans say yes, according to Pew. - The Washington Post ... ( )
decimation: doh stupid cut "Though the report found that a majority of Americans are skeptical of government surveillance programs, it also found very few are taking the extra step of encrypting the content of their e-mails. In fact, half of those surveyed said using encryption software gives the government enough suspicion to monitor a U.S. citizen's communications."
BingoBoingo: decimation: You have to remember that ~98% of Americans made the mistake of voting for Obummer or Romney
decimation: heh yeah
decimation: and then again
decimation: Obummer or Mccain, even when ron paul was on the ticket (for primary)
nubbins`: 98% voter turnout? :0
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59636 @ 0.00030356 = 18.1031 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: 'racket' << iirc it was the thing formerly 'plt scheme'
BingoBoingo: <decimation> Obummer or Mccain, even when ron paul was on the ticket (for primary) << Insuffiecient information at the time to blame eeveryone for voting "generic sharp black kid" over the lich
asciilifeform originally learned scheme on 'plt'
asciilifeform: and even taught to a girl
decimation: BingoBoingo: actually that reminds me of a funny quote on the econtalk podcast: "Reminds me of when I tried in 1976--I was in a shopping mall in North Carolina trying to get the Libertarian candidate, Roger McBride, on the ballot. One of my few forays into politics. I would accost passers by and ask them if they would like to see a third party and have another choice, and many of them would say: We have too many already."
assbot: " + soundfiledesc + " ... ( )
decimation: asciilifeform: so you would endorse taking a look at 'racket'?
decimation: in your blog, you say that scheme is too 'minimal' to be useful
asciilifeform: as described in r5rs - yes
BingoBoingo: decimation: My one legit referendum petition I remember signing was when I was living in Missouri. It is Mardi Gras and I signed the legalize the marijuana petition because fuck west county
asciilifeform: as described in subsequent documents - poetteringized
decimation: ah, I see.
BingoBoingo drilling python some more realizing to do what I want prolly need to drill perl and C
decimation: BingoBoingo: apparently you could just drive to to colorado
BingoBoingo: decimation: On St. Patricks day? After mircea_popescu lost the Berkshire bet? I'm fine taking in the Aurorae as a faint green glow.
decimation: BingoBoingo: I don't mind python, but realize it's just kind of a c with lisp ideas thrown in
BingoBoingo: <decimation> BingoBoingo: I don't mind python, but realize it's just kind of a c with lisp ideas thrown in << I'm just looking to populate a toolbox.
BingoBoingo: For mundane taks
BingoBoingo: *tasks
asciilifeform has a radio scanner running for unrelated reasons, picked up the well-known alex jones, quoth 'soros funded ferguson...' - then disappears in jamming noise
asciilifeform: or possibly the solar flare
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> or possibly the solar flare << Direction of solar flare fun from here is line of site to downtown (granted not huge downtown) and walmart LED lights.
BingoBoingo: Maybe placebo, but at last check tint to lights a bit greener than usual for such clear skies.
decimation: the aurora is actually caused by particles spiraling down the the magnetic field lines, the solar flare that sent them here was over days ago
BingoBoingo: This being middle west though nothing about sky can be trusted.
asciilifeform: decimation: elementary 'dynamo' situation
asciilifeform: same as nuke emp.
BingoBoingo: decimation: I thought it made contact about 24 hours ago, not quite finished with contact?
decimation: yeah pretty much. that's why it causes a danger to long conductors, sets up currents through 'ground'
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> same as nuke emp. << Speed differs
asciilifeform: well yes.
asciilifeform: ' survival kit is complete without silver bullets...' -- radio
decimation: BingoBoingo: the main body of particles has passed, but the earth's magnetic field is still bouncing around in its wake
asciilifeform: '...put a wall between you and... irs'
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ' survival kit is complete without silver bullets...' -- radio << About as easy to cast as lead
asciilifeform: but wtf.
decimation: asciilifeform: are you listening to 'coast to coast' on am?
asciilifeform: that's some serious sp4m
nubbins`: you pick up some bizarre things on shortwave sometimes
asciilifeform: 4.85 Mhz
decimation: shortwave in the us is a desert of crazy
decimation: at least, broadcast anyway
BingoBoingo steeling up for the prospect of walking halway to St Rose at for the prospect of seeing a smidge of green in the sky.
danielpbarron: i'm reading the quoted radio text in that alex jones voice in my head
BingoBoingo would consider driving if he hadn't started the libations 10 hours ago.
decimation: asciilifeform: you might be listening to WWCR transmitter #3
assbot: | Home - WWCR Shortwave, Nashville, Tennessee, USA ... ( )
decimation: it could also be a harmonic of some local am broadcaster
BingoBoingo thinks eventually qntra should distribute RSS over number station
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you wanna pay for this...
nubbins`: ;;google raspberry pi pirate radio
gribble: Raspberry Pirate Radio - Make: | Make:: <>; Start a Pirate Radio Station with a Raspberry Pi and a Single Wire: <>; Weekend Projects - Raspberry Pirate Radio - YouTube: <>
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Give it two decades. 1 GW at 440 HZ
nubbins`: works until you get v&
BingoBoingo: When mircea_popescu's comfotable in New Reno should be perfectly feasible
BingoBoingo: What else is the Hoover Damn or its remains going to be sending power too?
mircea_popescu: <assbot> Is using encryption suspicious? Half of Americans say yes, according to Pew << half of americans also think an mit degree means basic electric competence.
asciilifeform: goddammnit
asciilifeform: [censored].155 Mhz has my keyboard
BingoBoingo: So in News, disorderly conduct has moved from series of incompletable bench trials to Hearing today.
asciilifeform: fucktardation
asciilifeform was actually looking for precisely it, and found it
BingoBoingo: Hearing in May
decimation: asciilifeform: my suggestion: lots of ferrite
asciilifeform: not coming from the cable
asciilifeform: (shielded)
BingoBoingo: Erect around mudhut, ground well?
assbot: Steel Buildings | Steel Building & Metal Building Quotes ... ( )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not in mud hut
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> ' survival kit is complete without silver bullets...' << this is actually a lot more sensible than it seems. silver has some good chars for making a bullet.
asciilifeform: vs pb ?
BingoBoingo: Silver's a bit harder, still soft enough for rifling. Just not quite as dense as pb
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because doesn't blunt quite as much on impact
asciilifeform found yet another harmonic
mircea_popescu: less like frozen shit, so to speak
asciilifeform is -not- happy with his discovery
BingoBoingo: Excellent chumpatron could be had selling silver bullets at $5 - 45 per round for "When your life depends on it"
mircea_popescu: i think it's being done already.
mircea_popescu sits patiently waiting to see what alf finds in his kbd now
BingoBoingo: Of all the silly james bond premises the man with the gold gun seemed one of the more feasible ones.
asciilifeform: it's an ordinary '80s ps/2 kbd.
asciilifeform: i knew they are loud, did not know -how-
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo gold is pretty atrocious a material to make guns out of.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is it audible if unplugged ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The gun itself yes, the bullet, no
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: +5dB when key repeating
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: otherwise just atmospheric static uncorrelated with distance of antenna from device
mircea_popescu: sure, gold bullet might work.
mircea_popescu: not so different from what the us is doing currently.
mircea_popescu: "would have been cheaper to buy afghanistan than to conquer it was"
BingoBoingo: Du's prolly close to the optimal choice though
asciilifeform: ... aaaand another harmonic
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu:
BingoBoingo: !up gabrielradio
asciilifeform: .... and another harmonic
decimation: asciilifeform: it could be from the cord
asciilifeform: specifically keyboard microcontroller.
decimation: asciilifeform: yes, but something is radiating it presumably?
asciilifeform: decimation: scan matrix
decimation: asciilifeform: there might be little you can do unless you are willing to modify the internal circuitry
asciilifeform: decimation: more than willing
decimation: some ferrite might help, but it takes quite a bit to make a difference
decimation: < I recommend this
mircea_popescu: actually... just add rng in circuit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: think, scan matrix
decimation: common mode chokes create an impedence to the common mode circuit - you would have to pass both signal and ground through them. a mix #43 toroid with several turns of both signal and ground would help
asciilifeform: decimation: not coming from the cable!
decimation: asciilifeform: I understand, I'm talking about the connection between the microprocessor and the scan array
asciilifeform: the array itself appears to radiate also.
asciilifeform: which is entirely unsurprising
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i understnad how the matrix thing works.
asciilifeform: to anyone who was awake in kindergarten
asciilifeform: likbez for ze n00bz
mircea_popescu: fact remains you can add a chunk to generate fake keypresses right next to it.
mircea_popescu: you are immune to it, yourself, because wires.
mircea_popescu: spy however can't discern
decimation: the other solution is to insert a differential filter (lowpass) in the actual scan array circuit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ideal materials for this artistic project is controller from identical kbd, with keyswitch faker attached
mircea_popescu: well, or can use your own rng.
decimation: which may have obvious side effects on the circuitry
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes but to have precisely same radiating profile
mircea_popescu: well yea, will take some tinkering.
asciilifeform could probably achieve more with an actual spectrum analyzer, but would have to sell organs
decimation: does your o-scope have a 'spectrum analyzer' mode?
asciilifeform: decimation: yes but entirely useless for this application.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 147533 @ 0.00032249 = 47.5779 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: decimation: the rf amp is the golden toilet
asciilifeform: i only have the equivalent of a 'copper toilet' here.
decimation: actually your scanner would be a halfass alternative
decimation: you can at least measure relative signal strength at select frequencies
asciilifeform: decimation: what do you suppose i was using.
asciilifeform: (it's an ancient rs232-controlled scanner, and handheld antenna over 50ohm coax)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42298 @ 0.00033536 = 14.1851 BTC [+]
decimation: heh the icom pcr-1000?
decimation: I have the 1000, it's a good unit
asciilifeform wonders if -everybody- has this one
decimation: there was a windows tool that turned the pcr-1000 into a spectrum analyzer - not fast but it kinda worked
asciilifeform: any machine-controllable scanner with machine-readable output is a (very) poor man's spectrum analyzer.
← 2015-03-16 | 2015-03-18 →