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bagehot: It depends on what is enforced by the people who decide what money and the economy are.
bagehot: And also how those people define the terms.
bagehot: That's my first pass at an answer. That's not a question I've thought about before.
mircea_popescu: one interesting idea that came out here is that the people do not decide what either money or the economy are.
mircea_popescu: but vice-versa : money and the economy decide what people are.
mircea_popescu: !up bagehot
mircea_popescu: you should prolly get in the wot.
bagehot: Thanks! First, re: one interesting idea: Can you clarify 'decide'? One sort of sociological argument I've heard is that social systems cause specific behaviors to be present in people.
bagehot: Another argument I've heard is that thing like 'money' and the 'economy' exist as they are because of some constraints that are present in the natural world and so those constraints, eh, cause certain behaviors
bagehot: Its definately the case that some social systems cause behaviors in practically all people, although I suspect once in a while people manage to commander the board for a bit.
mircea_popescu: the latter.
mircea_popescu: just like gravity causes fishes to swim and birds to fly, just so money and the economy cause black people to be poor and jews to have long noses
mircea_popescu: or thereabouts.
bagehot: I suspect so, although, it'd depend on the natural constraint thats being put forth
assbot: #bitcoin-assets new WoT and voice model ... ( http://bit.ly/1FkB6QM )
mircea_popescu: yes, that works.
assbot: What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FkBoal )
assbot: GPG contracts pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FkBoap )
bagehot: Alright, I'll be back in a bit once I've got wot setup.
mircea_popescu: !up Birdman
Birdman: Hello -assets. I am looking to dump my dollars for coins and have almost no trust ratings in the WoT. Willing to use an escrow or however it can be the least risky for both parties if anyone is interested
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103013 @ 0.00032424 = 33.4009 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: you mean physically ?
mircea_popescu: Birdman ^
Birdman: It'd have to be a cash in the mail thing most likely
Birdman: Unless there is another way to get someone my dollars
mircea_popescu: i don't think many people do that, on account of how unreliable it is.
mircea_popescu: if you can use a bank, talk to sturles, he's been doing the offices of noob introducer since 2010.
mircea_popescu: expect to pay a slight premium.
mircea_popescu: if you can't use a bank, join a local community and do face to face.
mircea_popescu: !up JoshG_
JoshG_: sup
Birdman: Right, but the risk is on my end really if I send the money. Also, I am trying to do a larger volume where my irl contact is uncomfortable doing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 320250 @ 0.00031795 = 101.8235 BTC [-] {7}
mircea_popescu: not much.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118150 @ 0.0003224 = 38.0916 BTC [+]
assbot: The huge language issue pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cf5BIA )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 155800 @ 0.0003224 = 50.2299 BTC [+]
decimation: asciilifeform: apparently you need a manor-house with a library
asciilifeform: i also need atomic dirigible, possibly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40690 @ 0.0003224 = 13.1185 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: !up bagehot
mircea_popescu: there's no relation between assbot and gribble really.
assbot: irc_bots:assbot [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1BqStij )
bagehot: I dig the link to the BRK letters at http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/finance. His letters are really a sharp resource on finance.
assbot: finance [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1G1rRDp )
bagehot: But, how do I prevent getting muted by assbot? I figured I registered a public key with gribble to register with the wot and then it was a matter of ;;eauth and messaging !up to assbot
decimation: bagehot: no need for ;;eauth to gribble, !up to assbot is sufficient
bagehot: Er, when I send !up to assbot I get 'assbot: bagehot is not registered in WoT.' back
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128259 @ 0.0003432 = 44.0185 BTC [+] {2}
bagehot: How do I fix that? I'm mistaken but thats where I thought (but no longer do) gribble fit in.
decimation: did you do !register to assbot?
decimation: !rated bagehot
assbot: bagehot is not registered in WoT.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81491 @ 0.00034611 = 28.2049 BTC [+] {3}
bagehot: Sorry, this is probably all RTFM issues, but is it !register <long pgp id>
mircea_popescu: !gettrust bagehot
assbot: bagehot is not registered in WoT.
bagehot: For the <full_gpg_keyid> I'm using the fifth column I get from the command gpg --list-keys --with-colon, 60E5BD872B2A6031. I'm getting back 'assbot: That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint.'
decimation: bagehot: did you upload it to a keyserver?
assbot: Search results for 'bagehot' ... ( http://bit.ly/1G1uEws )
mircea_popescu: use the whole thing
mircea_popescu: 40 chars.
decimation: you might want to actually have a valid email too
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 124000 @ 0.00033537 = 41.5859 BTC [-] {2}
bagehot: Where is the 40 character output?
decimation: gpg --fingerprint <key>
mircea_popescu: !gettrust bagehot
assbot: Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user bagehot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/mircea_popescu/bagehot | http://w.b-a.link/user/bagehot
mircea_popescu: !rate bagehot New blood
assbot: Rating should be any non zero value between 10 and -10.
mircea_popescu: !rate bagehot New 1 blood
assbot: Rating should be any non zero value between 10 and -10.
mircea_popescu: !rate bagehot 1 New blood
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/de6dcd8050d71dd7
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.bagehot.1:db856e96a87cbb812489644043c3577315f61997069f2c79c3c0d4cd29f66b59
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for bagehot with note: New blood
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bagehot now you can self-voice, pm assbot !up
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75250 @ 0.00034861 = 26.2329 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123751 @ 0.0003403 = 42.1125 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54550 @ 0.0003341 = 18.2252 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 217869 @ 0.00034853 = 75.9339 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38950 @ 0.0003565 = 13.8857 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: 600 lines of log
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> what's wrong is the idea that dependents can push one around in one's own castle. << myup.
ben_vulpes: but on the other hand "you're a parent now - you must sacrifice your whole life for the new life"
ben_vulpes: that's your line.
ben_vulpes: that set of assertions has me in knots.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> said.... everyone ever ? << nah. babes in haus is totally the way to go.
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2015 12:53:40; cazalla: and i am stuck using fucking electrum since then because for some reason, since bitcoin-qt 0.10.0 came out, my old 0.8.3, 0.8.6 throws errors and i can't fully sync and even lame attempt to try 0.10.0 falls flat.. i think maybe memory is fucked though unrelated, memtest86 throws a bunch of errors
mircea_popescu: nah, chain's still ok on the older clients.
mircea_popescu: may be some peculiar 8 branch shit
ben_vulpes: this is still worth enumerating.
ben_vulpes: cazalla: what's the full story here?
ben_vulpes: your 0.8.6 all of a sudden refuses to sync further?
ben_vulpes: new 0.8.6 chains blow up during initial sync?
ben_vulpes: wouldn't it be handy to have a thing that could watch the output of n different 'bitcoin's running in real time?
ben_vulpes: saifedean: it's the Alps on the Riviera << oh god that sounds amazong
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it would, yes.
mircea_popescu: the alps actually are right across from the riviera.
ben_vulpes: <mod6> ben_vulpes: here's v0091 of the patching script: http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000066.html << once we have a source tree in the wild and some sort of provenance chain for it we can start talking about dvcs over email
ben_vulpes: i'm well aware that this is how Things Are Done™
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you know the "first shave, then shoot" one ?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-03-2015#1051719 << that it may be << oh come now the israel thing is totally orthogonal to the 'everyone else is cattle' attitude
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2015 13:15:53; gabriel_laddel: the political position of "they're cattle, we're not" is totally A OK.
mircea_popescu: wait, wut ?
ben_vulpes: umpteen fucking centuries of having the bottom 90% snipped off of your ethnic group is much more pertinent
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 'international cattle demarcation line' does not refer to israel?
ben_vulpes: oh, well. then what?
mircea_popescu: just an arbitrary limit
ben_vulpes: is this a real thing?
cazalla: ben_vulpes, i reinstall nigubuntu a few days after 0.10 came out, i forgot to backup blocks so i had to dl it all again, but not able to do so despite blowing about 100gb on trying
ben_vulpes: oh god
ben_vulpes: never update your bitcoin device
ben_vulpes: state is von neumann peeking through the curtain
ben_vulpes: his baleful glare burning into your soul
cazalla: ya, i know, but i was using 0.8.3 and i have at times in the past thought fuck it, i'll just download the blockchain after a format
ben_vulpes: attempt to mutate the state and you tempt him
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no dude, iut's not a real thing. the idea was that somehow there's a cutoff : up to moment t, imigrants are a ok. at t+1 they're now cattle. well, how do you choose t ?
mircea_popescu: cazalla that was not such a smart move.
mircea_popescu: old chains are valuable like old wine is valuable.
ben_vulpes: the glib retort is "we're not immigrants, we're jooz!"
cazalla: but i even tried 0.10 out of pure frustration and it wouldn't work either.. i actually think it might be related to ram in this pc, memtest86 reports bunch of errors
ben_vulpes: like gypsies, but according to the people in question, 'smarter'
ben_vulpes: if i might be so bold i bear an excellent subset of excellent american genes
ben_vulpes: french mercs
cazalla: anyway, i have a pogo otw, we'll see what comes of that next week
ben_vulpes: jews who escaped
mircea_popescu: i dun think genes are what you think they are.
ben_vulpes: and gypsies (so family legend goes) who assimilated into the local joomunity.
ben_vulpes: lineage, then.
ben_vulpes: who knows what got snipped and sewn in place during recombination.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80800 @ 0.00035969 = 29.063 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: o wait, you're a jew too ?
assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3FF200N.txt )
mircea_popescu: sorry, couldn't resist.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: p-p-plz no bully
cazalla: http://i.imgur.com/akdKhXt.jpg <<< you can use a daikon raddish as a heatsink?
ben_vulpes: <trinque> heh we're fucking children << trinque confirmed for gulagdestiny
mircea_popescu: yes, it's heat relish.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25440 @ 0.00035921 = 9.1383 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> presently the only package of -source- i've succeeded in building into a kernel that can be used on pogo - was netbsd. << it's over. eat a strategic banana, let them have the abandoned fortresses, move to the hills and build batteries of cheapish ground and air control devices to hold no mans land, lick wounds, regroup.
ben_vulpes: dispense with dream of 'compute'. c'est la guerre.
ben_vulpes: take comfort that bitcoin exists.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88900 @ 0.00035865 = 31.884 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: decimation, mircea_popescu: ksr, "We could be intruding on alien life." << isn't colonialism about coopting local structure if not eradicating them entirely?
mircea_popescu: colonialism is about coopting the locals on its own terms only.
mircea_popescu: that's the point of colonialism : much like b-a, you may only join it nude.
ben_vulpes: "do as i say, or i slay."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.QNTR] 9477 @ 0.00021105 = 2.0001 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: that's the important thing about colonialism : it is a plain statement of the fundamental worthlessness of the locals. what it says is that their culture is not worth reading.
mircea_popescu: in many cases, this attitude is actually correct
mircea_popescu: which is why i don't particularly share the worries of most intellectuals abnout the various books burned during history.
mircea_popescu: if the people that wrote them weren't idiots, the books wouldn't have been burned.
mircea_popescu: im sure if someone burned down reddit loads of future intellectuals will be all "o noes, the treasures lost". because they don't exactly know.
mircea_popescu: and so for them erring that way is sensible. but in actual fact... good god, the world is better off.
ben_vulpes: <bagehot> [02:58] the keys used to keep bitcoins a store of value are. << wat
mircea_popescu: (same idea re: "state preserving old buildings" put forth in http://trilema.com/2009/el-ingenioso-hidalgo-don-quijote-de-la-mancha-si-conul-andrei-pippidi/ drove teh romanaian nuts. but the point stands : why the fuck would the public treasury spend money to maintain some family houses of meanwhile dead families ? once the snail's no longer in the shell, the shell has no further meaning or import.)
assbot: El ingenioso hidalgo Don Quijote de la Mancha si conul Andrei Pippidi. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xmjRIc )
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell bagehot lmk if you want a hand with setting up networks off of the mainchain
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell bagehot "normative statement" << actually now i'm not so sure i want to be around you at all even
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: lol the guy is trying, give him six months.
ben_vulpes: <bagehot> [04:12] Another argument I've heard is that thing like 'money' and the 'economy' exist as they are because of some constraints that are present in the natural world and so those constraints, eh, cause certain behaviors << it's called thermodynamics
ben_vulpes: new noobs, gorgeous weather, summer runup must be impending.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 284.5, Best ask: 284.6, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 284.62, 24 hour volume: 37387.61151736, 24 hour low: 281.36, 24 hour high: 293.22, 24 hour vwap: None
mircea_popescu: looks like it.
ben_vulpes: 10k by nov?
ben_vulpes: who's the fractional reserve this time?
mircea_popescu: well considering all the bezzle poured in, it should be d.cbse
ben_vulpes: gemini being the replacement-in-the-wings
ben_vulpes: fiat hedge against fiat failure
ben_vulpes: <cazalla> ben_vulpes, i reinstall nigubuntu a few days after 0.10 came out, i forgot to backup blocks so i had to dl it all again, but not able to do so despite blowing about 100gb on trying << dude i need more than this
ben_vulpes: like ~/.bitcoin/debug.log files from block where it wedges
ben_vulpes: block number
ben_vulpes: general symptoms of shitgnomery
mircea_popescu: he's new. give him six months.
ben_vulpes: and then THEN you need to point the thing at a known-good node and see if you get the same results.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: cazalla? new?
mircea_popescu: at computering
cazalla: ben_vulpes, i really only got off windows like.. 7-8 months ago
ben_vulpes: well you have places to hunt now don't you? and a foundation to whom to report shitgnomery in the wild?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91228 @ 0.00035522 = 32.406 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: anyways cazalla your mission should you choose to accept it is to run down some useful debug information from a 0.8.6 that refuses to sync. i suggest booting your bitcoind with the -debug flag.
mircea_popescu: lol @ should you choose to accept it device.
mircea_popescu: which game was this ? doom ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102950 @ 0.00035483 = 36.5297 BTC [-] {2}
cazalla: ben_vulpes, here, not sure if any help http://dpaste.com/3EKMNTB.txt
cazalla: i think this was from 0.8.6 or maybe 0.8.3 install, can't remember
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/visual-culture-test-the-naked-woman/#comment-90764 << ahaha check it out how one patrick mcfarland made a btc in 2012
assbot: Visual Culture Test - The Naked Woman pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xmlC8m )
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: mission impossible!
ben_vulpes: as a side note, it's lovely to see pastebin die the good death.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: the movie...
mircea_popescu: i mean it's traditionally a device to humiliate the girls, but the degree!
ben_vulpes: good god they're all like 35
mircea_popescu: well yes ?
cazalla: mircea_popescu, ya know what i'm yet to figure out about such pics, under what circumstances do people get naked like this at a wedding?
cazalla: european thing or what
ben_vulpes: ERROR: ProcessBlock() : already have block 234015 << so your remote node is misbehaving
ben_vulpes: although hard to tell if its getting blocks it already has or just 'heights' it already has
ben_vulpes: ERROR: ProcessBlock() : already have block 233764 00000000000000f9386cebe790b230739587e8d554d94579e8e569b73107c472
ben_vulpes: << considering running 'getblockhash 233764' and seeing if it returns the same hash
ben_vulpes: although is that the hash of the existing block or the incoming block and are they even the same?
mircea_popescu: 00000000000000f9386cebe790b230739587e8d554d94579e8e569b73107c472
ben_vulpes is not opening up cpp tonight, will run from flawed meatram
ben_vulpes: /s/considering/consider
ben_vulpes: hm wait wrong construction
ben_vulpes: cazalla: please run 'getblockhash 233764' and report
ben_vulpes: if you have 0.8.6 available for inquiry.
ben_vulpes: 67.70.13.210 << in 10* seeds?
ben_vulpes: and to tag this with the 'block download' thread: nodes that misbehave like this must be booted from the dl candidate list.
ben_vulpes: pronto.
mircea_popescu: dude, we went over this. the list is strictly made out of wot nodes. nothing else.
mircea_popescu: stop filtering badness.
cazalla: ben_vulpes, can't at this time, chain and client i have half done here atm is 0.10.0 from when i got frustrated and decided to see if this work, it didn't get to that blockheight
ben_vulpes: not the hardcoded list, but the list of candidates constructed at/during runtime from which a node may consider downloading blocks.
cazalla: i actually have older chain here on external hdd so im copying that over, it isn't a full one either though, i believe it is from other day when trying 0.8.6 so will try soon
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ideally it'd have a performance based model, where it sorts the connections according to a "value", periodically kicking the bottom one and taking a new one in
mircea_popescu: just assign costs to cpu/bw usage, and price to information obtained, and there you go
cazalla: anyway, point i was trying to make last night was drunk, bad decision or not, i have done this many times over past year and it would always get a full chain after a day, but can't since 0.10.0 came out
ben_vulpes: this is the obvious solution, yes.
ben_vulpes: well codified, thank you mircea_popescu.
mircea_popescu waives any merit.
cazalla: not that i was trying to use 0.10.0, that was just a last resort past few days
ben_vulpes: cazalla: this needs proving and reproduction.
ben_vulpes: nailgun for the shitgnomes.
ben_vulpes: eg does it wedge reproducibly, etc.
ben_vulpes: jesus fuck the qa.
ben_vulpes: 00000000000001909813d3f692378c41ffa9c21e444ebac220a33137d94948c5 << point at which pasted log kicks into "orphan frenzy"
ben_vulpes: nonstd transaction?
cazalla: what's AddToWallet, should i snip that from log before putting on dpaste?
ben_vulpes: heh probs.
ben_vulpes: twould be real funny if there were privkeys in that log statement.
cazalla: nah i checked
ben_vulpes: and you're certain you know the contents of that logline?
ben_vulpes: OMIT any potentially sensitive data there.
ben_vulpes: try to preserve charcount.
cazalla: ben_vulpes, this is from trying to -reindex with 0.8.6 http://dpaste.com/3E6139P.txt
mircea_popescu: 2015-03-14 08:29:22 LevelDB read failure: Corruption: block checksum mismatch
mircea_popescu: did you shutdown your pc uncleanly ? such as for instance power fsailure ?
cazalla: nope, client crashes
mircea_popescu: before that.
cazalla: ben_vulpes, confident nothing in there, but even if there was, i have nothing more than bitcents on machine connected to internet
ben_vulpes: was that a fresh sync or using an old blockchain?
cazalla: it's about 8gb of blocks which i downloaded using 0.8.6 the other day
ben_vulpes: 132587 << fresh sync i'm betting
cazalla: so i copied em over into blocks dir here now and ran 0.8.6
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=831003.0 << look, a scamcoin that's not totally retarded from the get-go.
assbot: [ANN] Woodcoin [LOG] Pure Skein, Logarithmic Release, X9_62_prime256v1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUSwas )
cazalla: over the past few days i've tried a fresh install with 0.8.3, 0.8.6 and 0.10.0 and all have problems, and yes fresh as in fresh as i wiped hdd each time
ben_vulpes: Are you going to argue with Bruce Schneier? I didn't think so. << amazing pedigree
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
mircea_popescu: that idiocy aside, using skein's not necessarily a bad choice
mircea_popescu: this is what i meant : while the thing's not necessarily useful, at least it's trying.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29867 @ 0.00035597 = 10.6318 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: cazalla: ok well are you game for some foundation support?
ben_vulpes: please don't make me build and test more bitcoinds
cazalla: well that's why i have a pogo otw
ben_vulpes: aws bill was insane for last three months
cazalla: i'll fuck around with the pogo and hopefully learn a thing or two, that but that aside, what are odds shitty ram is cause of my problems.. memtest86 cites errors and i actually did have a couple blackouts a month back
ben_vulpes: well i have non pogo tasks for you
mircea_popescu: cazalla that may have corrupted a db then
cazalla: mircea_popescu even on fresh o/s with new install of bitcoin-qt?
ben_vulpes: i will not accept 'may have'.
mircea_popescu: cazalla if memory corrupts then yes, on anything.
cazalla: i'll go buy a cheap stick of ram tmw and try again
cazalla: ben_vulpes, unfortunately, i need a lot of hand holding as i can only get so far myself so i would likely cause you more trouble than be of help
ben_vulpes: nope.
ben_vulpes: "teach a man to fish".
ben_vulpes: when i'm done with you you'll be downright valuable.
mircea_popescu: no homo ?
cazalla: well, what would you need me to do and is it bandwidth intensive?
ben_vulpes: unlike some people i'm willing to train male slaves.
cazalla: lol
ben_vulpes: cazalla: you'll not be on the hook for b/w.
ben_vulpes: that'll have to come from my heirs legacy.
cazalla: no, i mean my use of it with home internet connection
ben_vulpes: heirs'.
cazalla: as long as it doesn't blow it to over say 100gb, i can help, i have some older machines here too if of any use
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 168500 @ 0.00035151 = 59.2294 BTC [-] {3}
ben_vulpes: if you find that this is *not* a ram issue, i'll provide you ssh access to a thing on which you can run a bitcoind.
cazalla: i should be able to let you know whether it is or not by this time tmw
ben_vulpes: anyone who has other ideas re: muntzing cazalla's system please chime in
ben_vulpes: cazalla:
ben_vulpes: lady v returns from travels tomorrow noon pst, so i'll likely be unavailable though the pm.
cazalla: i'll leave you a note if you're not around anyway
ben_vulpes: tbf i'm more likely to get fucked into quiescence than vice versa
ben_vulpes: dude what the shit
ben_vulpes: i just got a 400 redirect
ben_vulpes: what is *wrong* with people
ben_vulpes: oh actually lolariously
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ben_vulpes: trinque was bitching earlier today about getting a 418 TEAPOT from a production point of sale system
mircea_popescu: "We don’t think of bitcoin as being [...] an alternative currency [...]. We think of it as a medium for exchange"
mircea_popescu: top kek in klass.
ben_vulpes: get kesselman in here, eh?
mircea_popescu: ya srsly.
mircea_popescu: i think she was, actually.
ben_vulpes: oh goodness madonna on stern
assbot: This is me being completely spaced out pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUU44q )
assbot: Madonna on Howard Stern 3.11.15 | The Big Picture ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUU6sS )
mircea_popescu: lol i remember when she was teaching leterman wardrobe terms
ben_vulpes: "i will do as told." < ha this one
mircea_popescu: "Please use the comments to demonstrate your own ignorance, unfamiliarity with empirical data and lack of respect for scientific knowledge. Be sure to create straw men and argue against things I have neither said nor implied. If you could repeat previously discredited memes or steer the conversation into irrelevant, off topic discussions, it would be appreciated. Lastly, kindly forgo all civility in your discourse . .
mircea_popescu: . you are, after all, anonymous."
mircea_popescu: holtzy is kinda funny.
ben_vulpes: i've been waiting for you to come around
mircea_popescu: wait, i thought her fucking tupac was public knowledge.
ben_vulpes: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/03/wolf-richter-us-oil-bust-just-got-worse.html << pretty amazing how linear the 'fraking boom' looks in retrospect
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
assbot: Wolf Richter: The US Oil Bust Just Got Worse | naked capitalism ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUUnw3 )
ben_vulpes: i still want to get that madonna book
mircea_popescu: so get it ?
mircea_popescu: you live in like, a city, right ?
ben_vulpes: i just burnt my discretionary income on fundation expenses.
mircea_popescu: lol. don't you ppl have some moneyz ?
ben_vulpes: pretty much all req'd to hedge against famine months
ben_vulpes: what's the mpex phrase?
mircea_popescu: "eat the woman, save the cow" ?
ben_vulpes: "solemnly promise to not introduce personal expenses" etc etc
mircea_popescu: you're confusing me. weren't these servers ?
ben_vulpes: sure, yeah.
mircea_popescu: anyway, discussion continued tomorrow, im off.
ben_vulpes: humbung!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30550 @ 0.00035843 = 10.95 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97017 @ 0.00035038 = 33.9928 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55833 @ 0.00033434 = 18.6672 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46750 @ 0.0003343 = 15.6285 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17852 @ 0.0003341 = 5.9644 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42100 @ 0.00033279 = 14.0105 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59400 @ 0.00033311 = 19.7867 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 147550 @ 0.00033149 = 48.9113 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: !t m s.qntr
assbot: [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0.00021105 / 0.00021105 / 0.00021105 (9477 shares, 2.00 BTC), 7D: 0.00021105 / 0.00021105 / 0.00021105 (9477 shares, 2.00 BTC), 30D: 0.00021105 / 0.00027001 / 0.000301 (59040 shares, 15.94 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 120900 @ 0.00033548 = 40.5595 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52349 @ 0.00035001 = 18.3227 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 194193 @ 0.00034485 = 66.9675 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47707 @ 0.00035916 = 17.1344 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 261724 @ 0.00033549 = 87.8058 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51652 @ 0.00032977 = 17.0333 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00035929 = 2.7845 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62500 @ 0.00033018 = 20.6363 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so i get a piece of spam, http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/spam.png and i'm curious, where did the script get that sentence ?
assbot: My wife has a useless degree and a history of mall jobs. Any advice to de-rutify her? : careerguidance ... ( http://bit.ly/1GDMbuD )
mircea_popescu: leaving aside the "reddit principally exists as source of pre-spun spam text, because the cult of bayesianism really does work", jesus christ check out that life history.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 180118 @ 0.00033836 = 60.9447 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the kicker, of course, being "She seems to think that professional careers require flawless writing ability, which I don't feel is the case."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68800 @ 0.00036008 = 24.7735 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29332 @ 0.00035726 = 10.4792 BTC [-]
assbot: 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1BhmxqZ )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ^ chgeck it out, the internet breaks a little more.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00033852 = 5.7379 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67640 @ 0.00033819 = 22.8752 BTC [-]
mats: lol
mircea_popescu: who is this ?
kakobrekla: dunno
mircea_popescu: interesting : he tries to fight obscurity, going to extreme lengths to put a spotlight on himself
mircea_popescu: and yet... nobody knows who he is.
mircea_popescu: i vote this guy 'most likely to modern man'.
mircea_popescu: !up funkenstein_
funkenstein_: thanks
funkenstein_: can i just say this is the first time i've been on television?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00033018 = 6.2074 BTC [-]
funkenstein_: based on how long it's taken me to find my way over here I am going to be a slow learner so thanks in advance for your patience
kakobrekla: welcome to the show.
mircea_popescu: read the logs, it's all you need.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83000 @ 0.00033371 = 27.6979 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ so what abvout this woodcoin thing ?
mircea_popescu: !up funkenstein_
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00033371 = 10.1114 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95850 @ 0.00033854 = 32.4491 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56300 @ 0.00033372 = 18.7884 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: !up funkenstein_
mircea_popescu: you prolly want to get in the wot.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34900 @ 0.00034015 = 11.8712 BTC [+]
funkenstein_: confirmed
funkenstein_: you can totally trust me. i can take a picture of myself licking a hammer.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2015 04:11:17; mircea_popescu: you should prolly get in the wot.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2015 05:01:21; decimation: asciilifeform: apparently you need a manor-house with a library
funkenstein_: set up but no rating
funkenstein_: !gettrust funkenstein
assbot: funkenstein_ and funkenstein are not registered in WoT.
funkenstein_: ;;gettrust funkenstein
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask funkenstein!518d5cd7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.141.92.215. Trust relationship from user funkenstein to user funkenstein: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=funkenstein&dest=funkenstein | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=funkenstein | Rated since: never
funkenstein_: !gpg eauth funkenstein
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ follow the bit to get into assbot's.
mircea_popescu: "We also migrated to the hosted platform as a service provided by Automattic on vip.wordpress.com. This enabled all of our costs and resources to be focused on growth as they didn’t have to worry about caching, servers or anything that didn’t improve experience for our readers or editorial users. "
mircea_popescu: this is perhaps one of the most idiotic bits of salescopy i've seen in recent memory : https://vip.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/10-growth-hacks-that-helped-metro-co-uk-achieve-27-million-monthly-visitors/
assbot: 10 Growth Hacks That Helped Metro.Co.Uk Achieve 27 Million Monthly Visitors – WordPress.com VIP ... ( http://bit.ly/1NVxJUd )
mircea_popescu: "The amazing thing about the platform is that it is a flat fee. This means that although our traffic has grown 350% year on year our costs have not changed. The depth of their out of the box features plus ecosystem of plugins ensured that we did’t have to worry about commodity features such as SEO, site maps and editorial workflows as someone else had built and open sourced an approach."
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
mircea_popescu: exactly.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, the thing's just been buying those spammy "related stories from across the net" slots. which... whatever. TRAFIC!
mircea_popescu: you could have bought that and driven it to a ytmnd for all the good they do anyone.
mircea_popescu: but gotta appreciate the "shared hosting for idiots thinking themselves corporate" thing. myths never die! INFINITE BANDWIDTH!!1
mircea_popescu: "A key growth hack we developed was the ability to show different headlines for social and search so we didn’t impact our search traffic."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75600 @ 0.00033004 = 24.951 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42300 @ 0.00033096 = 13.9996 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: its called cloud now btw.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92894 @ 0.00032974 = 30.6309 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: height=276555 vs height=208878
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 141100 @ 0.00032785 = 46.2596 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: GREAT IDEA FOR SALE ... ( http://bit.ly/1NVD3Hd )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62488 @ 0.00033096 = 20.681 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74450 @ 0.00032636 = 24.2975 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i must confess that i didn't grok the analogy with the strategic banana, retreat from the fortress, etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: internet breaks >> http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3141310154691952@naggum.no.html << you beheaded the link
assbot: Re: Is LISP dying? - Naggum cll archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1AomqdU )
assbot: The SECOND Official Ultra-Ever Dry Video - Superhydrophobic coating - Repels almost any liquid! - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1x4PgEy )
ben_vulpes: they own linux.
ben_vulpes: the strategic banana is a red herring.
asciilifeform: [insert correct lolcat]
ben_vulpes: a non-sequiter.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126000 @ 0.0003274 = 41.2524 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: got your tickets ?
asciilifeform was reading log, and noticed that this came up and somehow missed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99400 @ 0.00032316 = 32.1221 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: in a day or so.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i paid around 0.8k
asciilifeform: not incl. the gringo-tax thing
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if you aren't a miser, and don't want to layover in two separate banana republics summing to a full 24 hrs' journey each way - it'll be more like 1.4
chetty: oh hey I finally get to meet you guys :)
asciilifeform won't have useful cargo, sadly
asciilifeform: (see logs)
asciilifeform: unless somebody still wants 'pogo'
chetty: << plans to have eulora demp
BingoBoingo: <cazalla> but i even tried 0.10 out of pure frustration and it wouldn't work either.. i actually think it might be related to ram in this pc, memtest86 reports bunch of errors << Bad Ram can keep a lot of things from working
chetty: demo*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21215 @ 0.0003274 = 6.9458 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: <cazalla> i'll fuck around with the pogo and hopefully learn a thing or two, that but that aside, what are odds shitty ram is cause of my problems.. memtest86 cites errors and i actually did have a couple blackouts a month back << Rather high
mod6: chetty: im ciked!
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: how did you manage that?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i don't mind travelling 24 hours, one less night have to spend in hotel lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32700 @ 0.0003274 = 10.706 BTC [+]
chetty: travel can be fun if you relax and go with the flow, my first trip to Argentina was @29 hours
thestringpuller: chetty: I'll be sure to print out lots of trilema to read
chetty: hahaha not sure thats a great choice for light airline reading
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99950 @ 0.00032926 = 32.9095 BTC [+] {3}
danielpbarron: got my hands on some old computers to play around with :D
danielpbarron: right now i'm gonna try to install openbsd 5.6 on an imac g4 via network
BingoBoingo: Cool, good luck
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Once you do that see if you can get a bitcoin build upon it.
assbot: Sources tell me the the NGC is working with Antiguan authorities and the Feds to shut down and to extradite an individual to Nevada soon.
danielpbarron: i feel like i'm in way over my head trying to figure out the pogo stuff without ever having done the same things on already well established paths
assbot: /EllieAsksWhy Your presence is requested. http://t.co/7Hj12V2vR4
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Well, if you manage to install OpenBSD it's basically closer to a normal OpenBSD environment than the pogo is.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40597 @ 0.00033008 = 13.4003 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26603 @ 0.00033278 = 8.8529 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 130900 @ 0.00032346 = 42.3409 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61450 @ 0.00032294 = 19.8447 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83425 @ 0.0003318 = 27.6804 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla shitcloud!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform oh i c!
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: i paid around 0.8k << ftr this sounds about right.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: if you aren't a miser, and don't want to layover in two separate banana republics summing to a full 24 hrs' journey each way << this however doesn't ?!
mircea_popescu: <chetty> << plans to have eulora hemp << what, no pot ? :D
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform: miser, pauper, it's all the same
mircea_popescu: ;later tell cjc NGC ?!
mircea_popescu: a... company ?!
mircea_popescu: i flew istanbul - ba direct, coach was ~800
mircea_popescu: first class was 1100
ben_vulpes: i live in the sticks.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64091 @ 0.00033473 = 21.4532 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: the local airport is nominally 'international', but only to select destinations and not many into s.a., much less efficiently over to the south atl.
mircea_popescu: i guess this is a point. istanbul is a major airtraffic hub. the us... not.
ben_vulpes: i'm probably going to spend 28hrs traveling both ways, and spend 1.1k
mircea_popescu: kinda like cccp was a "major airtrafic hub" for internal flights only.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes crazy.
ben_vulpes: i imagine the forbidden city is a bit more well trafficked.
ben_vulpes: perhaps next year i'll take two weeks off and spend a few days in nyc with friends
mircea_popescu: bout 1k people / minute.
mircea_popescu: hm, no, that's an exageration. bout 5k an hour more like it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 135150 @ 0.00032202 = 43.521 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60900 @ 0.00032478 = 19.7791 BTC [+]
assbot: [ANN] [CHK] Chicken | chicken. chickens. chicken. | RC Chicken ... ( http://bit.ly/1MBfIsI )
ben_vulpes: chikken-eats-ya
BingoBoingo: layeggs true to mine?
mircea_popescu: proof of lay!
mircea_popescu: !up gabridome
mircea_popescu: how's life been treatin ya ?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony can in egg-vest?
mircea_popescu: this is like... the frist time i saw something intelligent on tardstalk in... years ?!
fluffypony: what comes first, the chicken-vest or the egg-vest?
mircea_popescu: egg-vest. i guess i may be the only one still wearing three piece suits,
mircea_popescu: but i've made more eggvest than say cumpanties.
mircea_popescu: mostly because the sort of sluts i hang out with don't even have panties, but anyway.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77650 @ 0.00032964 = 25.5965 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50488 @ 0.00033059 = 16.6908 BTC [+] {2}
Adlai: fluffypony: b&
Adlai loaded page 1 before deletion, clicked to page 2 - deleted
fluffypony: awwww
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63350 @ 0.00032964 = 20.8827 BTC [-]
Adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=14-03-2015#1052459 << ik: for them = gaming. also http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/[sf]-{nsa,mg,qntr,mpif}/ all http 500
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2015 02:11:04; mike_c: gaming. for them, idk.
assbot: S.MPOE Analysis - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1wJMxQe )
ben_vulpes: berp of course, that's mpoe
danielpbarron: !up funkenstein
funkenstein: !register 6B0D10D1878DE25B4DA2695AB2B6360488298AB6
assbot: A key with that fingerprint is already registered by funkenstein_
danielpbarron: ;;later tell kakobrekla ^ can fix?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109893 @ 0.0003304 = 36.3086 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: !gettrust funkenstein
assbot: funkenstein is not registered in WoT.
mircea_popescu: !gettrust funkenstein_
assbot: Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user funkenstein_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/mircea_popescu/funkenstein_ | http://w.b-a.link/user/funkenstein_
mircea_popescu: lol noobbane
mircea_popescu: !rate funkenstein_ 1 New blood
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/9e26c86e0bf5dffd
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.funkenstein_.1:08f17d910038511d7eb6dd50c053622072b2d77774b05f63de70f50240b6bd83
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for funkenstein_ with note: New blood
mircea_popescu: funkenstein : id as funkenstein_ and you can self voice.
assbot: Logged on 17-02-2015 03:18:52; Adlai: let's take a step back. the wot should be about who trusts whom, and trust is verified on the basis of signatures. i see no reason why node identity should be based on anything other than signing keys.
assbot: S.MPOE Analysis - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/18MAgPF )
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2015 23:19:50; ben_vulpes: berp of course, that's mpoe
mircea_popescu: Adlai hm ?
Adlai: mpoe and bbet work, the others don't
mircea_popescu: o i c. right you are.
Adlai suspects it may involve a lack of dividends
mircea_popescu: could be
mircea_popescu: Adlai people associate shorthand names with keys. sorta like nicknames/callsigns work in the army/airforce.
Adlai: callsigns aren't a good example, being assigned for uniqueness (and sometimes other properties such as perceived cleverness or snake-oil information hiding
mircea_popescu: but that speaks to how they're assigned, the discussion was about how they're used.
mircea_popescu: dude polish looks like a fucking dragon wrote it down.
mircea_popescu: pm assbot !up
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo from what i hear, the entire polish embassy thing is bs. for one thing, they really didn't do much / nobody even knew existed. for the other, no police reports, or what exactly happened there ?
mircea_popescu: sounds more like a gay spat than anything, two people who figured "they" were the embassy or something.
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2015 21:42:29; scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/03/latest-ransomware-targets-game-files-related-applications/
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2015 02:08:13; asciilifeform: mega-lol re: 'whaleclub', which apparently requires proprietary turdware to connect to!
funkenstein_: end to end encryption users not affected: http://research.dyn.com/2015/03/uk-traffic-diverted-ukraine/
assbot: UK traffic diverted through Ukraine - Dyn Research | The New Home Of Renesys ... ( http://bit.ly/1GR2w2H )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 188006 @ 0.00032803 = 61.6716 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 155490 @ 0.00032531 = 50.5825 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.00033061 = 8.3975 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87700 @ 0.00033061 = 28.9945 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00033061 = 3.5375 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 145200 @ 0.00032468 = 47.1435 BTC [-] {3}
ben_vulpes: "earlier versions of the popular to edit so as to make your own ransomware." << parser failure
ben_vulpes: cazalla:
cazalla: f5 and see if i make sense now
ben_vulpes: myeah that's a skosh better.
cazalla: i guess i could've done a better job of illustrating that these variants are mostly copy/pasta jobs
mircea_popescu: skosh lol
cazalla: mircea_popescu, hey, i learned a new word
mircea_popescu: this is how jewness spreads.
cazalla: ben_vulpes, btw, puta shop is closed sundays, so i'm gonna try to sync up blockchain on another machine. i stuck the memory in the other slots in this machine and memtest86 didn't detect any errors over night so might be the motherboard instead
cazalla: i mean, there are other shops around but they charge an arm and a leg for half as much
ben_vulpes: probably the right thing to do is to draw the parallel between braindead altcoin 'creators' and braindead copypasty ransomware operators. script kiddies, the lot of 'em.
ben_vulpes: keep on keepin on cazalla
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, yo funkenstein_ how much woodcoins does a btc buy me ?
ben_vulpes: altcoin creator gets in wot
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu buys coins
ben_vulpes: dem incentives
assbot: Index of / ... ( http://bit.ly/1xocMGW )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91584 @ 0.00032698 = 29.9461 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: ah i thought that whaleclub sounded familiar; i talked to those guys when they were on google hangouts one time https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/statuses/505781493239910400
assbot: Daniel P. Barron on Twitter: "@flibbr You should better be chatting in #bitcoin-assets. http://t.co/hEYes37cMV" ... ( http://bit.ly/1GG1PW9 )
danielpbarron: oh huh, assbot grabbed the selected tweet that time.. inconsistent bastard!
danielpbarron: "I would do but I don't really have time for IRC tbh. . and as a communication vehicle find it too inefficient."
danielpbarron: the guy was trying to convince me that the price was effect by the moon
assbot: What if /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash price goes up during a down moon cycle? /BitcoinBravo /hashtag/moon?src=hash /hashtag/parabolic?src=hash
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 283.57, Best ask: 283.7, Bid-ask spread: 0.13000, Last trade: 283.7, 24 hour volume: 18127.28269587, 24 hour low: 281.55, 24 hour high: 287.6, 24 hour vwap: None
thestringpuller: the price drops 10 bucks and people freak out now?
ben_vulpes: who's freaking out?
thestringpuller: /r/bitcoin ofc
thestringpuller: "we were so close to 300"
danielpbarron: i have mixed feelings about the price going up, but generally i'd rather it not seeing as how I'd like more opportunity to get it cheap
danielpbarron: !up Bagels7
danielpbarron: ;;later tell jurov found my btc-dev-request email in my spam folder "Why is this message in Spam? It is in violation of Google's recommended email sender guidelines. Learn more"
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> sounds more like a gay spat than anything, two people who figured "they" were the embassy or something. << If this was their opening it wouldn't make the cut. But the part where it is closing isn't. Everything else is hedged appropriately.
Bagels7: Oh dpb, why did you voice me, you know everyone here is way smarter than me, well at least the regulars
thestringpuller: Bagels7: that means you're smart too by Socratic-ish logic tho.
ben_vulpes: hey Bagels7
danielpbarron: well you were smart enough to buy trilema credits
danielpbarron: !up ColdHardMetal
Bagels7: yeah I figure I'll be totally brainwashed by the time i have 9k credits left, it already triggers me in a state of mind where I think I deserve to be abused and started to have relationship issues
Bagels7 hugs ben_vulpes
danielpbarron: well i'm at 8.8k and i'm full blown brainwashed if you ask anyone on the forums
Bagels7: probably for the best in your case of anarchist passions and social idiocy
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