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mats_cd03: 02:48:14asciilifeform:usg choppers were supposedly fired upon during 'katrina' << yep, i can confirm this second hand -- i know a few L.A. guardsmen that engaged in firefights with looters
mats_cd03: it should be public knowledge by now, i heard rumors about a documentary film about to be released a year ago, dunno if it materialized
nubbins`: magine
mats_cd03: kinda controversial, as the regular army is prohibited from combat operations on american soil afaik (posse comitatus)
nubbins`: when else would ya get the opportunity, i guess
mats_cd03: funny enough, some guardsmen participated in the looting
nubbins`: when else would ya get the opportunity, i guess
nubbins`: given the choice between grabbing a looter and grabbing a new flatscreen...
assbot: CBC managers told of Jian Ghomeshi 'assault' allegations back in June - Canada - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1HMnSgs )
mats_cd03: id have preferred a gun battle, personally.
nubbins`: cbc's self-reporting on all this ghomeshi stuff has been stellar
mats_cd03: pitched battles with insurgents are fairly rare even for dudes in remote combat outposts
decimation: mats_cd03: I know a few folks who believe that the regular army would generally have no problem with firing on americans if ordered to do so
decimation: I'm not so sure myself, but I hope it doesn't come to that
mats_cd03: idk about that, i worked with a fair number of free thinkers ranging from lower enlisted to field grade officers
decimation: I think there was a discussion about this awhile ago. I think that if it came to this (orders to fire on the population somewhere) it would probably tear the military apart, or at least damage the chain of command
mats_cd03: and i don't get the impression they'd be down with it. american military doctrine encourages autonomy at the company level in a lot of ways
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dub: a world where are americans are shooting each other is a safer world
decimation: dub: happens every day
mats_cd03: which is great for tactical warfighting, but much less suited to a task better left for secret police
dub: and yet america survives
decimation: "there is much ruin in a nation"
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i guess so yeah
decimation: mats_cd03: unfortunately it seems like the 'secret police' is often trotted as a solution to many of usg's problems
mats_cd03: all the more reason to accumulate fuel for takeoff
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nubbins`: almost
nubbins`: fluffypony dat time savings
mircea_popescu: daylight time savings!~
nubbins`: tbh i want daylight savings time all year
nubbins`: it currently gets dark at 4:30pm
nubbins`: i would rather it didn't get dark until 5:30pm
nubbins`: who the fuck cares about the morning?
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mircea_popescu: !up jespern
kuzetsa: [23:00:00] <+mircea_popescu> <kuzetsa> assbot: you're a bad idea << if you'd have read the logs you'd know there was some derp in chan earlier dropping links to leech ips to ddos people. << mmm, yeah. I barely even notice if someone directly mentions my own nick.
kuzetsa: and that's only because I enabled the nick highlight feature on my IRC client
kuzetsa: I was totally awake for the past 5 hours, just not looking at IRC
kuzetsa: I was mostly annoyed because hidemyass.com has some suspicious scripting and a helluvalotta sponsored advertizing, and pingbacks and cookie leakage to facebook and other social networking sites which I couldn't be arsed to audit
kuzetsa: I default to assuming something complicated enough that I can't audit it in under 2 minutes is a bad idea
kuzetsa: hence my saying "assbot: you're a bad idea" generically
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assbot: Evil 32: Check Your GPG Fingerprints ... ( http://bit.ly/1yuuzPO )
assbot: Publishing: The peer-review scam : Nature News & Comment ... ( http://bit.ly/1rGRe5A )
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cazalla: damn, 1230am and outta liqour :\
assbot: Demistiphy 802.15.4 - Travis Goodspeed & Sergey Bratus - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/11E13KW )
assbot: scanlime/coastermelt ยท GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/11E1kNU )
mircea_popescu: kuzetsa yeah i guess it's way too web 2.0 for its own good.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony you know bout phucktor ?
fluffypony: cazalla: pft, amateur...you should always have a stash :-P
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: no?
cazalla: fluffypony, can't keep a stash because it gets drunk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11095 @ 0.00037407 = 4.1503 BTC [+]
fluffypony: cazalla: you need a standing weekly order :-P
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cazalla: nintendo are releasing eon tickets across australia on monday, i get to line up at the shopping centre with 10 year olds and other dorks just so i can get the ticket to go to the island in game and catch a specific pokemon
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mircea_popescu: fluffypony asciilifeform made a gpg key tester
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assbot: Logged on 29-11-2014 08:56:36; kuzetsa: I was mostly annoyed because hidemyass.com has some suspicious scripting and a helluvalotta sponsored advertizing, and pingbacks and cookie leakage to facebook and other social networking sites which I couldn't be arsed to audit
assbot: hide.me ... ( http://bit.ly/1FGk1zq )
assbot: Free Web Proxy ... ( http://bit.ly/1FGk0LY )
kuzetsa: kakobrekla: I have no preference
kuzetsa: I just use a sane browser that doesn't run scripts by default
kuzetsa: hidemyass wasn't on the whitelist
kuzetsa: so I couldn't see the youtube video
kuzetsa: and I was irked when I saw how many non-youtube scripts hidemyass was trying to run :(
kakobrekla: thats to be used only when you are following links from unknown people btw
kakobrekla: at least that was the original idea.
kuzetsa: I didn't think anyone in this channel could post unless they were at least known in the -otc WoT
kuzetsa: how are you defining "unknown people" O_O
kakobrekla: strangers get voiced all the time?
kuzetsa: do they?
kakobrekla: temporarily, but still.
kakobrekla: !up dooglus
kakobrekla: -assbot- You voiced dooglus for 30 minutes.
kakobrekla: looks like it!
kuzetsa: that seems to defeat the purpose of having +m
kakobrekla: idk have you been in this chan before in last few months?
kuzetsa: I've been idling for several consecutive months
kuzetsa: I usually don't pay much attention though
kuzetsa: and I recently wiped my logs so it only goes back a week or two curently
kakobrekla: myea.
kuzetsa: I've only privmsg'd assbot with the !up thinger less than 10 times
mircea_popescu: there's kinda no way out of the "i don't want to pay attention, why don't i understand anything" trap.
mircea_popescu: pick one.
kuzetsa: sure there is
kuzetsa: it's not a trap if shut up
mircea_popescu: lol i guess
kuzetsa: (I don't care enough to discuss the proxy thing ... people just keep re-bringing it up and highlighting me in the process)
kuzetsa: ninja turtles sucked BTW
kuzetsa: like... my expectations were low but I was still blown away with how awful it was :(
ben_vulpes: godamnit fleanode
ben_vulpes: just cloak everyone
mats_cd03: i have a right not to be cloaked!
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39550 @ 0.00035976 = 14.2285 BTC [-] {3}
decimation: kakobrekla: what about 'censoring' links from those who aren't in the wot?
decimation: I guess that would imply full moderation
kakobrekla: that would imply like own ircd
decimation: yeah. irc is a creeky 1950's cuban ford pickup, it kinda works
ben_vulpes: serenissima wish list:
ben_vulpes: - rewrite bitcoin
ben_vulpes: - rewrite pgp
ben_vulpes: - rewrite irc
decimation: don't forget 'throw out existing cpu paradigm'
kakobrekla: yes that one should be first or else you will have to do the other 3 again
kakobrekla: but i guess everything goes faster on the second try
decimation: speaking of which there's some amusement re: systemd and surrounds: http://lwn.net/Articles/619068/
assbot: Kdbus meets linux-kernel [LWN.net] ... ( http://bit.ly/15KSkc3 )
decimation: DCOP was a bus that KDE used as an IPC layer between GUI programs; DCOP became DBUS
decimation: now Greg KH, Kay Sievers and Lennart want to integrate DBUS into the kernel (DBUS)
decimation: apparently integrating DBUS was tried twice before and DaveM said "hell no"
decimation: so now they are going to try to integrate it as a character device
decimation: Alan Cox: http://lwn.net/Articles/619142/ "No - these are reasons to have *something* in the kernel. I think it would be far more constructive to treat the current kdbus as a proof of
assbot: Re: [PATCH 00/12] Add kdbus implementation [LWN.net] ... ( http://bit.ly/15KSro8 )
decimation: concept/prototype or even a draft requirements specification."
mircea_popescu: decimation the usg bois are getting butchered.
mircea_popescu: it's funny how they always proceed with this "chiken can eat the highway" outlook.
decimation: I think the might have some legitimate points about shortcomings in existing IPC mechanisms, but I don't see how shoving the entire protocol in the kernel makes sense
mircea_popescu: of course they have some legitimate points.
mircea_popescu: it's sort of like the beta dork showing up with his hot sister at the exclusive bar.
mircea_popescu: the girl gets shoved in and he gets to stay behind the rope.
decimation: heh yeah kinda like that
mircea_popescu: in spite of having had some good points, mounted on the chick's chest.
decimation: it's interesting to look through the linux mailing list thread to gauge various reactions: https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/10/29/854
assbot: LKML: Greg Kroah-Hartman: [PATCH 00/12] Add kdbus implementation ... ( http://bit.ly/15KTnca )
mircea_popescu: anyways. later!
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jurov: I don't see how shoving the entire protocol in the kernel makes sense << they don't want unnecessary context switches
jurov: this is the undoing of C.. due to its memory unsafety they must decide to either bloat the kernel or suffer the overhead
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ben_vulpes: perhaps the c pyramid will collapse under its own weight
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thestringpuller: "In 2011, a survey done showed that approximately 60% of Jamaicans would push to once again become a British territory; citing years of social and fiscal mismanagement in the country."
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mats_cd03: jurov: its a terrible essay.
mats_cd03: "Startups don't win by attacking. They win by transcending."
mats_cd03 waves hands
undata: transcendent disruption of paradigms
undata: please take my course on the above for only 10 BTC
kakobrekla: >The truly great startup founders have to be nice on the outside but when push comes to shove, complete assholes on the inside.
kakobrekla: yes because even more pretending will save the world
mats_cd03: i just had a glass of milk after avoiding lactose for over a year
mats_cd03: dis will be interesting
undata: mats_cd03: prepare your bowels for disruption
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xinxi: no one is here?
kakobrekla: you are here.
mats_cd03: people are around
mats_cd03: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvl2nw2wkkM << another sweet talk by goodspeed
assbot: #HITB2013AMS D1T1 Travis Goodspeed - Nifty Tricks and Sage Advice for Shellcode on Embedded Systems - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1B2lLmL )
mats_cd03: i should probably save these for when asciilifeform is around
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thestringpuller: c'est bon si bon
decimation: "If the Treasury were forced to convert the $1.4 trillion in short-term bills (on which it now pays an average interest rate of 0.056 percent) into 30-year bonds at the average rate it is now paying on such bonds (4.919 percent) the interest on that $1.4 trillion in debt would increase 88-fold."
decimation: the Day of Days comes closer...
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decimation: ;;ticker
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decimation: http://oldurbanist.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/ever-since-euclid.html << " But their view seems to be that so long as the owner remains clothed with the legal title thereto and is not ousted from the physical possession thereof, his property is not taken, no matter to what extent his right to use it is invaded or destroyed or its present or prospective value is depreciated." << progressives have been grinding down the US for a long time
assbot: Old Urbanist: Ever Since Euclid ... ( http://bit.ly/1vwXT7n )
PinkPosixPXE: ben_vulpes: or mod6 you around, doing some adjustments on my script, and had a few questions about the modifications requested, quick questions.
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thestringpuller: long time no see PinkPosixPXE
thestringpuller: decimation: I wonder how long they can keep it up.
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