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dub: poop pump?
asciilifeform: Vexual: pick'n'place nozzle.
Vexual: sucks so goode?
TheNewDeal: you made your own?
asciilifeform: 'nothing sucks like Electrolux. (tm)'
asciilifeform: TheNewDeal: no, god threw it down to earth just now.
TheNewDeal: I'm just wondering why
TheNewDeal: are they expensive to procure and you have muchos tiempos on your manos?
TheNewDeal: or you only need a very small volume?
asciilifeform: TheNewDeal: i need exactly one.
TheNewDeal: Gotcha
Vexual: is it straight thru inside? the outside is a piece of art
asciilifeform: Vexual: drilled, yes.
Vexual: lathed by hand eh?
TheNewDeal: why was brass chosen, if I might continue to pester you with manufacturing questions?
asciilifeform: TheNewDeal: harder than Al, not as tricky to machine as stainless steel
Vexual: also goldy colour is nice
asciilifeform: there are two basic things one can do when need part of a specific shape and size, and no other.
asciilifeform: (provided that it cannot be had off the shelf)
TheNewDeal: pout?
asciilifeform: 1) pay someone to machine it
asciilifeform: 2) machine it.
asciilifeform: (1) is not an option given the modest budget.
asciilifeform: that leaves (2).
Vexual: drawing one would take as long as making one
asciilifeform: this piece - possibly.
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BingoBoingo: When dealing with brass anything... You have to pretty much machine it yourself
Vexual: what about that thing means it's not available off the shelf?
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Well, it is hard to get a leuer lock without an expensive ass IV pump or heroin habit
BingoBoingo: Especially not one capable of surviving solder beads
BingoBoingo: Sure, you can claim Diabeetus and get soft plastic shit that wears like hell
BingoBoingo: And then you'll need 40 locking apparati minimum
BingoBoingo: Real lead pencils may be the shit, but...
BingoBoingo: Expecting a plastic to survive solder beads?
BingoBoingo: It would be like Micon condemning Butt Fucking Labs out of pure charity.
decimation: neat-o ascii, congrats on the manufacture
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Seriously beautiful work.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: By 2018 Maybe I can commision a euphonium? I don't even want to think about how long a Tuba would take.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> TheNewDeal: harder than Al, not as tricky to machine as stainless steel << To be fair machining Aluminium is plenty tricky on its own
decimation: asciilifeform: did you make that on your manual lathe http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-08-2014#786567 ?
assbot: Logged on 08-08-2014 01:27:25; *: asciilifeform recently bought a 'proper' lathe - no coordinates, just cranks...
TheNewDeal: why do you say that bb?
TheNewDeal: I can band saw aluminum like a champ
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Aluminium... Ignites...
Vexual: i mean the part he machined, me thinks i could find something in my own junkyard, it must be the way it attaches to the machine or something
BingoBoingo: Aluminium also clogs the shit out of grinding wheels
Vexual: cuts like a champ
Vexual: little parrafin
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: Is that TradeFartress
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: It isn't necessarily that Aluminum is flamable enough on its own. Nearly any grinding equiptment usually put upon it will have already cut iron and have various Iron oxides in it...
BingoBoingo: FeO* + Al = ???
Vexual: i always thought it was more about the heat
BingoBoingo: Also about things that generate heat... like thermite.
TheNewDeal: I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I'm pretty sure I've cut the shit on a band saw, while lightly spraying some lubricant, and had no problems of ignition. That band saw was for sure used in cutting other things (not sure how much iron)
Vexual: expands locally hence the need for parrafin wax lube
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Well, a bandsaw has rather controllable surfaces. A grinding wheel though if you work aluminium... turns into the bane of COmmunity College machine shops
BingoBoingo: Also consider most grinding wheels are already Aluminium oxide
Vexual: don't grind it
Vexual: or use diamonds
TheNewDeal: shiiit I'm gonna use the diamonds in my teeth and cut it like Jaws
BingoBoingo: Dude Jaws just died
Vexual: slow and steady
BingoBoingo: Seriously though... All of the fire the thermite references here... Thermite has exactly two ingredients...
BingoBoingo: And the two ingredients have 3 elements between them...
Vexual: wheres all thisoxygen coming from?
BingoBoingo: Vexual: From embedded iron that oxidized in the wheel.
Vexual: you'll find more danger with the pice getting stuck to the wheel and comin atchya at some aweful rate
decimation: thermite welding was used to weld railroad tracks in jungle conditions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadwelding
assbot: Exothermic welding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Vexual: woeks in the wet
Vexual: if kept dry
asciilifeform: answer to why above part not available off shelf:
asciilifeform: pictured item is a rotor. thin end gets ptfe ring (in groove not yet cut in piece shown.) rotates inside, surprise, stator (not shown)
asciilifeform: while retaining vacuum.
asciilifeform: this setup is in fact available off shelf - but in gigantic version (for use with compressed air shop tools)
asciilifeform: needed - this size.
Vexual: i was wondering whyy that bell end was at the other end
asciilifeform: thin end is rotor flange.
asciilifeform: thick end - 1/4-32 (american. i didn't make the luer, and no metric luer could be easily sourced.)
Vexual: will it work?
asciilifeform: which 'it'
asciilifeform: the luer fits needle, just as it was sold for.
Vexual: the rotation and the vacuum part
asciilifeform: ah yes.
asciilifeform: i did not invent the principle.
asciilifeform: in fact, i didn't invent any of this.
Vexual: did you solve the glue dilemma?
Vexual: err paste
asciilifeform: Vexual: testing that piece presently. there shall be pictures.
asciilifeform: not nearly as shiny.
Vexual: those med guys are good at inventin shit coz people pay for it
asciilifeform: luers are 19th c. tech.
Vexual: someone got paid, im sure
asciilifeform: at any rate, hopefully answered the question of why simple-looking piece of junk had to be laboriously cut.
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asciilifeform: decimation: yes, with that lathe. with what else.
decimation: asciilifeform: why not use a flexible tube?
Vexual: yes, i don't fully understand, but i kinda do
decimation: well, could have been cnc lathe
asciilifeform: decimation: i don't have a cnc lathe.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Former plastic pistol dudes may have an offering for the offing... http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/10/making-a-homemade-metal-semi-automatic-rifle-just-got-crazy-easy/
assbot: Making a homemade metal semi-automatic rifle just got crazy easy | Ars Technica
asciilifeform: decimation: flexible tube is annoying in various ways (can't rotate 360 deg.; wear around the connector ends; nonlinear resistance to turning, have to use gear train on stepper; etc)
decimation: yeah this is definitely a hardcore solution, probably higher quality than many pro pick'n place machines
asciilifeform: decimation: but very small.
decimation: I can see how a flex tube that pulls a decent vaccuum would interfere with a x/y positioner's movement
BingoBoingo: Pick and place is not a railroad
Vexual: building a railroad is pick and place
decimation: I wonder if there is a subtle 'puff' effect from flex tube as the vaccuum is released and the tube rebounds
asciilifeform: i may have said it before, but i will repeat: s.nsa has a piggy (see mircea_popescu's site); every month, i invoice him for materials, get some btc. but, since i can't safely convert btc to usd where i live, i just sit on them. they will probably be buried with me. hence: s.nsa, presently, in practice runs on guess what (my pocket money...)
asciilifeform: so everything must be done in the most painfully economical way.
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If only I knew how unsafely spring 2013
asciilifeform: can't have a part machined, for example, unless there is no possibility of making it to spec with own hands (pcbs with soldermask, vias, hard gold - fall into this category)
asciilifeform: because NRE (nonrecoverable engineering cost) is deadly
Vexual: long game
decimation: well, the idea is that you are investing in the equipment required to build other products in the future, thus making the NRE "recoverable"
asciilifeform: i'm genuinely surprised no one wrote in to say 'madness'
decimation: it seems to me that the quantity that you are minimizing is your time investment
BingoBoingo: I can only imagine what the pressure is like when the penguin only has a 3-4 hour drive
decimation: otherwise wearable parts wouldnt' be a bother
asciilifeform: the pick'n'place cum pastelayer is the only cut to a 'gordian knot' - namely, can't have the boards populated at a genuine factory (prohibitive cost for small batches) - but can't populate by hand with acceptable yield (very fine-pitch components)
decimation: yeah the smallest smt parts are a bitch
Vexual: problem?
decimation: asciilifeform: what kind of precision are you trying to meet with your paste squirter?
asciilifeform: 'how to eat the airplane? one piece at a time.'
Vexual: i can doo 400 an hour
decimation: as in, minimum pad sie
asciilifeform: decimation: 0.1mm
asciilifeform: (spatial)
asciilifeform: masswise: 1%
Vexual: yeah 20/hr at that
Vexual: have you been in some factories ascii?
decimation: that's impressive if you can achieve it. should be sufficient for most smt parts
asciilifeform: Vexual: been in factories << as a boy
asciilifeform: 'long ago, in galaxy far away.'
Vexual: a week in shenzen might be a goos use of time
asciilifeform: Vexual: how all of this is done in 'adult' factory - is very well known. (anyone who gives a damn - find university library.) but won't help here.
Vexual: doesnt hurt to have a look
asciilifeform is very much familiar with the traditional setup
Vexual: nuff said
asciilifeform: precisely, as someone mentioned earlier, railroads
asciilifeform: model railroad is not physically much like an actual railroad.
assbot: Pick and Place Machines at Maker Faire
asciilifeform: decimation: more importantly, is the fact that their machines cost money that i don't have.
asciilifeform: mine - costs mainly blood.
decimation: yean even the 'cheap' chinese one was like $4k I think
asciilifeform: for very questionable performance.
decimation: although it did have some kind of reel feed
asciilifeform: reel feed is less important when machine is being driven semi-manually
asciilifeform: (coordinates for motion plus manual jogs)
asciilifeform: vs. machine vision
asciilifeform: (customary in adult production line)
decimation: so you plan on using it as a 'robot hand'
asciilifeform: 'waldo' yes.
decimation: ok that makes sense, would be a good compromise for prototyping. it would be damn handy to hit a key to make the thing move 0.1mm instead of trying to finesse it
asciilifeform: unlike a purely mechanical pick'n'place (these exist), this one will have ability to return to preset coordinates.
Vexual: they have eyes yes?
decimation: there was a time when computers were a mechanical affair: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5P5faf7478 << model of "COLOSSUS" running at bletchley park
assbot: Colossus - Operational at Bletchley - YouTube
asciilifeform off to bed
Vexual: x0 y0
Vexual: thats my understanding, a humanlike thing approximates the position then uses a camera to fine tune
Vexual: but a drunk alone doesnt get far past the showroom
assbot: Movie hacking vs. real hacking http://t.co/Wt8yoJJ3VO
Vexual: bwahaha
Vexual: type ab knows what to do next
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Vexual: uefi?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2463 @ 0.00074222 = 1.8281 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
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Vexual: ther's certainly more to that story
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Vexual: ;;google pgp fidonet host:archive.today
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Vexual: archive.today/4TVVa
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punkman: bitbet hacked yet?
Vexual: do the yesno graphs all look the same?
Vexual: ;;8ball
gribble: The outlook is good.
Vexual: is it possible to verify the deposit adds without the website?
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BingoBoingo: Hard say to
Vexual: peted better not bring any gun to oz
Vexual: no guns in the city
Vexual: you wanna shoot and dress roos fine
Vexual: do it in the bush
Vexual: its a peer to peer thing
Vexual: loose tappets
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Vexual: that was from weekend at burnies, meanwhile in australia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejorQVy3m8E the recent minister for the environment and education
BingoBoingo: !up warptangent
Vexual: cool nick
Vexual: !up punkman1
punkman1: i should move to a new ISP
punkman1: or country
Vexual: slow or other shitness?
Vexual: i was all about iinet when i lived in perth
Vexual: they spent 60 million on lawers on the sourts fighting hollywood lawyer for other reasons
Vexual: they don't service this area unfortunately
punkman1: no piracy bullshit fortunately
Vexual: the guy startrted with 20 modems in his mums garage
assbot: The Dial Up Noise - YouTube
punkman1: a while since I've heard this
Vexual: is it all noise?
Vexual: is there a dubstep verison?
punkman1: probably
Vexual: whats wrong iwth your isp?
punkman1: makes me auth with gribble all the time
Vexual: i dont wanna tell you
assbot: vitepython/bitcoin-otc-auth GitHub
Vexual: who is it?
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocaEJVEpllc jimi hendrix rainbow bridge interview
xanthyos: 67:12 "but i don't have any wiVES"
Vexual: wait are you playingt that shit back?
xanthyos: i missed it when it was live
xanthyos: caught link from a friend
Vexual: you linked it i herd it
xanthyos: yes i heard this point
Vexual: i met a man going to st ives
xanthyos: i like that he slips in the grammatic possibility of having multiple wives
Vexual: his girlfriends kinda hot
Vexual: i think the interviwer pushed him tno talking about guns
Vexual: or perhaps he thinks violece is worth thinking about
dub: i think listening to those tards makes you a tard
Vexual: me too
xanthyos: listening to podcasts turns you into a podcaster
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Vexual: what poscasts do you listen to?
Vexual: personally im busy with my own interal maxilogue
cazalla: and http://qntra.net/ is live with some content
assbot: Qntra.net - #1 for bitcoin news
Vexual: no css?
Vexual: classbot
Vexual: strike that, i just saw "jizz moppers" in a headline
Vexual: and it inherantly unreadable
Vexual: a's for e's
assbot: /hashtag/GAWMiners?src=hash Jizz moppers of the highest order http://t.co/tYRt13UnHc
Vexual: i never knew fluffy pony was gawminer tho
Vexual: scoop
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dub: what are you, the NSA?
dub: logging all the chats
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Vexual: can i make a suggestion without offending indelicates?
Vexual: newsprint is black
Vexual: headlines included
Vexual: blue makes me think ive clicked it
cazalla: isn't that purple?
Vexual: whatever
Vexual: you're making a newspaper
Vexual: theme is important
cazalla: why ya gotta be critical Vexual, can't you just focus on the positive and ignore the bad, ya know, like losing your investment with gawminers?
Vexual: im tring to be positive, i should have mentioned i love the real html
cazalla: well, BingoBoingo suggested the theme and i just jacked his style.css and tweaked it
Vexual: its awesome
Vexual: critisism is oly coz im trying to get on board the a train
dub: you know what a news site needs? a trollbox
Vexual: also tits
dub: page 3 girls
Vexual: indeed
Vexual: might as well if your selling opinion
Vexual: and or news
Vexual: tits=hits
Vexual: nothings changed since '92
fluffypony: Vexual: I don't mop jizz, yo
fluffypony: I'm a creator not a cleaner
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EmD32AQzaQ sounds rack root the doors who do you love
Vexual: i know this fluffs
Vexual: respecty
assbot: JJ - still - YouTube
Vexual: pm dawn and dre, genius
Vexual: unseen philosiphers too
Vexual: whats new in monero?
fluffypony: we have a new research bulletin out (well, officially out on Monday)
punkman: sold all my monero before the drop, time to buy again?
fluffypony: overview of ring signatures as they're implmeneted in Monero
fluffypony: and we have a Python implementation of it
fluffypony: punkman: yeah, pretty sure we've bottomed out with Bitcoin
fluffypony: but I suck at TA stuff
Vexual: i saw you sell
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z_to5E_sRY heres what happens if you change one letter
assbot: Latin American Bitcoin Startup Moneero Exits Stealth Mode
fluffypony: SUCH STEALTH.
punkman: the endless horde of wallet inspectors
assbot: JJ DOOM - GUV'NOR - YouTube
dub: doom is such a good advert for wot
punkman: do tell
Vexual: i enjoi this
dub: he likes to send lookalikes to play gigs
assbot: OY - "Market Place" (official music video) - YouTube
Vexual: whops too many hours
Vexual: damn
assbot: King Krule - Easy Easy (Official Video) - YouTube
punkman: lunch time
Vexual: that will offend slovakistans lesbians
assbot: Senate to launch Bitcoin inquiry - Finance - News - iTnews.com.au
Vexual: vex trusts, no whoring
Vexual: theres usuaally singin in karaoke
mircea_popescu: how goes vex
Vexual: bloold type o
Vexual: pint two
Vexual: other than that im well
Vexual: et ou?
mircea_popescu: makes sense.
mircea_popescu: i'm fine too!
Vexual: fabulous
Vexual: that reminds me of a song :0
Vexual: been to any boss resturants of alte?
Vexual: i need recipies
mircea_popescu: ;;google ciulama de pui cu mamaliguta
gribble: CIULAMA DE PUI CU USTUROI - Edith's Kitchen: <http://www.edithskitchen.ro/ciulama-de-pui-cu-usturoi/>; Reteta Ciulama de pui - Horia Virlan - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c10nUB5Z_h0>; Ciulama de pui - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsMzz1oOKps>
mircea_popescu: just had that yest. rocks.
Vexual: some sorta comfort food?
Vexual: fried chicken with thick white sauce?
Vexual: potato?
Vexual: smoked pirhana with 4 metric fucktonne of relaxed spinach in butter, icy radish
mircea_popescu: basically.
Vexual: no wonder youre buling up
Vexual: *bulking
Vexual: prolly kick my arse
Vexual: what do the indians ea for starch?
Vexual: yams or soemthing?
punkman: I'd try piranha, is it good?
mats_cd03: rice i imagine
Vexual: cant get it in the city, it's al salmon
punkman: vicious little fuckers
Vexual: barb to the afce will sort it
Vexual: fish cakes
Vexual: what kinda strett food do you get?
punkman: here's an easy recipe for you vex http://i.imgur.com/JCHHTCV.jpg
Vexual: mmm cappachio
Vexual: id eat the fuck outta that
mircea_popescu: how does one eat the fuck out of something that contained no fuck to begin with ?
punkman: just make a pile of meat put it in the oven http://i.imgur.com/OSt7mO9.jpg
Vexual: the fuck comes at the end of the meal
mircea_popescu: ;;ud cappachio
gribble: Google found nothing.
mircea_popescu: no wai ?!
punkman: no, fuck comes before the meal, work up an appetite
Vexual: i dunno how to spell it, call it a problem
mircea_popescu: carpaccio :p
Vexual: yjayt it
mircea_popescu: (it's a recent invention tho, that name)
Vexual: is it?
Vexual: what did it used to be called?
mircea_popescu: it used to be called... raw meat
assbot: The Story of Carpaccio - ABC TV: The Cook and the Chef
mircea_popescu: carne cruda a la this or the other
Vexual: lol
Vexual: that picture actuaally looks like something uncooked
cazalla: RagnarDanneskjol, good tv show that
cazalla: better than mats_cd03 recommendation of hannibal tv series, watched first episode and zzzz
mats_cd03: watch more
mats_cd03: hannibal has 8.9/10 user score on metacritic
assbot: Guess who's Twitter account got suspended? : Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: dude check out all the history i didn't know!
mircea_popescu: so, the top mod on reddit is actually that dubious camwhore from dooglus' site back when ?
mircea_popescu: i think i still have pictures of her cunt with a large wooden implement shoved in for five bucks or w/e it was
mircea_popescu: AND she has a hardon for me ? still ?!
mircea_popescu: AND there's an entire reddit community dedicating to reading trilema and stroking it to just how bad it is ?
mircea_popescu: "A rich douchebag that does one nice thing isn't absolved from all his/her sins."
mats_cd03: snackman is still pissed
mats_cd03: best part
mircea_popescu: o.O what sins lmao. poor fuckwits imagining rich people are rich because of their "sins" ? yeah, sure, gimme sum o dat.
mircea_popescu: poor people are poor because of their sins!!!11eleventy.
mircea_popescu: if they weren't unclean in the eyes of the lord, the holy dollarghost'd give them some moneyz too!
mircea_popescu: "The problem is that his social skills are... well... different from what the majority of redditors and bitcointalkers are used to dealing with."
mircea_popescu: "MP reminds me of a spoilt fat little toddler I used to know, if he didnt get what he wanted he would simply scream until the whole world knew he was upset and that he didnt have what he wanted."
mircea_popescu: heh, that's actually exactly right. god fucking help you if i'm displeased.
mircea_popescu: the controlling point here being that just because no toddler should be in control of the world, it doesn't follow that nobody should be.
mircea_popescu: that's how it works : for things to exist you gotta have some people whose screams can scourge the very mouth of hell.
Azelphur: that just made me imagine MP having a temper tantrum, that'd be funny
mircea_popescu: that's what you think until you actually see one.
Azelphur: haha
mircea_popescu: i never realised people could think of toddlers in terms of fat/skinny.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if that guy frequents toddler pageants.
Vexual: arent they all fat?
mircea_popescu: mebbe kate moss had one with alex anores meanwhile ruining the bar for everyone or who the fuck knows
mircea_popescu: these people are always up to some progress or other.
mircea_popescu: xanthyos: he didn't force me to show him my penis <<< shit dude, my doctor keeps sticking his finger up my butt ;/ I KNEW THIS WAS SUSPICIOUS!
assbot: Family Guy - Prostate Exam - YouTube
mircea_popescu: Azelphur you know they can tell if you've had sex recently ?
Azelphur: haha, I did not
Vexual: yeah hes asleep
Vexual: don't wanke him up, theres no telling what he dreams
mircea_popescu: decimation: this is a rarity in usg, where someone says "I am responsible" and they are fired << the way i understand it, the us works by firing. so originally people were disincentivised from taking responsibility, in the hopes of avoiding it. as it didn't work... you'll be seeing more and more of that behaviour.
mircea_popescu: ALSO incredibly soviet, this. a strange sort of pseudomoral purism run amock.
mircea_popescu: ;;seen asciilifeform
gribble: asciilifeform was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 54 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: * asciilifeform off to bed
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: <+xanthyos> "neil degrasse tyson is an idiot" (michael dean) << he's right << you two should stop diluting the term idiot through calling annoying people idiots. not the same thing.
Vexual: thankyou
mircea_popescu: dub: micon is famous for confronting inaba like a frightened girl and running a scam poker site << he dun run it, but yeh lol.
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: what about MP? << his knowledge of bitcoin reality doesn't extend all the way to mp.
mircea_popescu: also you'll notice i don't exactly do the conference circuit.
artifexd: <mircea_popescu> AND there's an entire reddit community dedicating to reading trilema and stroking it to just how bad it is ? << Which subreddit is that?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: my problem with seals is that the admins are in denial that they cannot possibly ban their way to a collusion-free poker environment, and refuse to integrate the Web of Trust to allow users to control who they play against <<< this being a two year old business idea i had that nobody i talked to wants to implement because whatever, too busy chasing the "retainer" 1200 dollah a month sort of thing.
mircea_popescu: but you happen to be exactly correct, that's the only way to fight it.
mircea_popescu: artifexd well i dunno it;'s an actual subreddit, but the sheer volume of people that know various details, had ready trilema quotes etc.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: that guy that is talking to micon is pure scammer << the us talkspace is pretty much populated by scammers by now.
mircea_popescu: just like the porn space is populated by strippers and whores, who figure they can charge more / will get better custom if they are now "pornstars", just so would-be scammers in the us feel the overpowering need to have a tv show/radio show etc.
mircea_popescu: it all started in the 80s with those god awful late night cable channels, and thirty years later it pretty much took over "mainstream"
mircea_popescu: which is why as carlin/carson/stern etc are going out of old age, there's nobody to replace them. you get stuck with cancerous filth a la that oliver douche.
mircea_popescu: course when it comes time to collect they still need a scammer to shill for (and many just spend their time shilling for the biggest scammer of all, the govt, in exchange for whatever scraps), but still. a poisonous atmosphere.
punkman: stanhope coming to argentina?
mircea_popescu: punkman never answered. because you know, that's how you book shows x.x
Vexual: this ndrangheta music is really hte best there is
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://imgur.com/a/CmtqQ << blood, sweat, and... brass. <<< now make one out of bras.
assbot: vacuum nozzle (rotor) - Imgur
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: 'nothing sucks like Electrolux. (tm)' <<< romanian washing machine and vacuum cleanne rbrand ?!
Vexual: trak 11 sounds real killer
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: needed - this size. << im waiting patiently for asciilifeform to make his own model m, inch and 3/4 across.
Vexual: have you been to sicily mp?
Vexual: what do you eat there?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25322 @ 0.00074479 = 18.8596 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: so i was reading the logs with bated breath, waiting for to see bitbet being hacked. what sort of scam pentesting was this!
mircea_popescu: Vexual women.
mircea_popescu: same as i do everywhere.
mircea_popescu: decimation: yeah this is definitely a hardcore solution, probably higher quality than many pro pick'n place machines << well, than any pnp place THIS SIZE, fo sho.
mircea_popescu: decimation: well, the idea is that you are investing in the equipment required to build other products in the future, thus making the NRE "recoverable" << conversely, he is contributing a scary amount of value to the company.
Vexual: such hours
mircea_popescu: in the shapes of costs that'd be "recoverable" had they been booked, but are pure profit as they weren't.
Vexual: nubbins`: another foodie
nubbins`: betting against s.mg: slowest 0.74btc i ever made
assbot: BitBet - S.MG above 2x par on October 1st, 2014 :: 1.18 B (8%) on Yes, 14.07 B (92%) on No | closed 2 days 13 hours ago
Vexual: how many haours you got eating raw meat?
nubbins`: between three and five, as a guess
Vexual: shit i must be over 100
nubbins`: it's less readily available here
Vexual: i savour
nubbins`: no wallabies in the backyards
assbot: Ya son tres los barcos metaneros varados por la falta de dlares | Gas Natural Licuado, Puertos, Combustibles - Infobae
Vexual: beef or fish
mircea_popescu: the fact : bout 150k tons of gpl are stuck in an argentine port, waiting.
Vexual: marsupials have worms
Vexual: gotta cook it
mircea_popescu: the clarin spin (newspaper group bitterly opposed to government) : no money, economy in dissaray, disaster, mismanagement.
nubbins`: no kidding, we had a job come up a couple weeks ago, t-shirts for a sushi place. uniforms. male uniforms have a picture of a sushi roll and "fresh good food" underneath. female uniforms just say "I LIKE IT RAW" in huge letters
mircea_popescu: the k spin (kirshner, govt dinasty here) : no need for it because it was very warm this winter, so nyah.
Vexual: is it down?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you know, inept management thinking it's being "edgy" needs a bitchslap.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck makes women go around in that.
chetty: yesterday Kirshner went on a rant that usg was trying to assassinate her and bring down govt here
nubbins`: mircea_popescu we refused to print them D:
mircea_popescu: chetty i wouldn't be surprised if the usg was in fact trying to assasinate her.
Vexual: funny i read and comprehend spanish at a similar rate to english
mircea_popescu: nubbins` good for you, seriously.
chetty: mircea_popescu, seriously? why bother?
Vexual: funny coz it's not ture
Vexual: i see embargo
mircea_popescu: chetty you know they're fucking idiots. this would be the what, 20th pointless, ineffectual similar attempt ?
nubbins`: 5 mens uniforms (out of 60) also wanted "i like it raw", i guess they were gonna keep those in case they hired 5 gay men
mircea_popescu: basically for the same reason they do all the profilgate nonsense with the "president's security"
mircea_popescu: buncha hicks got some hardware wanna realise their action movie fantasies
chetty: I would think usg has enough stuffs on it plate without bothering but I guess there could be people with 'ideas'
nubbins`: oh! and in unrelated news, my province no longer has a department of justice, and an unelected private citizen was put in the seat of attorney general
mircea_popescu: anyway, she's old and sickly, that makes people paranoid, she always was a shy overcautious type,
nubbins`: she "can't see what the fuss is about"
assbot: Judy Manning 'surprised' by questions about PC party connections - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
mircea_popescu: the local secret service is a monument to incompetence
mircea_popescu: who knows what they told her.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` is this the ex chelsea ex bradley dood ?
Vexual: but he died from crack realted fuckups
nubbins`: mp afaik he cannot run for public office in any country
mircea_popescu: who ? why ?
nubbins`: Vexual watch this painful interview where some MTV knob tries to interview odb
assbot: Ol' Dirty Bastard funny interview - YouTube
Vexual: have you seen deadmaus getting cofee with the mayor of toronto?
Vexual: okay
nubbins`: fuck the mayor of toronto
Vexual: its good read nubs you should have a look
Vexual: deadmaud pick him up in his ferarri, he tells the minder to ge fucked outta town and he does his thing
Vexual: orders a triple and a double in one cup
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: SUCH STEALTH. <<< wait how is it "latin american" ?!
mircea_popescu: http://media.coindesk.com/2014/07/Screen-Shot-2014-07-03-at-4.40.08-PM-300x185.png << wtf. screenshot of what ? how is this related to some bitcoin corp.
nubbins`: <+Vexual> orders a triple and a double in one cup <<< my sides, my actual sides
mircea_popescu: cazalla if you put up random stock footage of dressed uruguayan chicks ima kill you
Vexual: deadmaud uses all his gforces on the fat fuck, he knows he wont get done for speed
nubbins`: Vexual you have no idea how canadian what you just said was
Vexual: i do
Vexual: i watched the vid and adsorbed it (no typo)
nubbins` considers this
Vexual: mm
nubbins`: y'know, i've never actually had a triple double
nubbins`: i've never even had a double double
nubbins`: i would, however, advance the opinion that if you're putting three cream and two sugar in your coffee, the quality of said coffee is of little import
Vexual: oh no, this was five espressos
nubbins`: o o o
nubbins`: yeah man, i used to get those on the regular.
Vexual: cunts a crackhead
nubbins`: this is how i got into caffeine
nubbins`: 5-shot caramel americano
Vexual: odb dont interview too well
nubbins`: nope
nubbins`: another good one:
assbot: Ol' Dirty Bastard On YO! MTV Raps - YouTube
mircea_popescu: what ! that show still exists ?!
Vexual: hes been dead a while
nubbins`: odb: "i just wanted to let y'all know that everything is real"
nubbins`: yeah he died when i was in uni
nubbins`: i remember where i was when i found out
Vexual: lol
nubbins`: 1:40 "i was up all night hittin' ice" lel
Vexual: one of two famous crackheads
Vexual: lol
nubbins`: he starts freestyling at 2:45
nubbins`: actually amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
Vexual: ive never seenthis
Vexual: im abot 23 seconds after
mircea_popescu: nubbins` ah okay, you're watching an old show
Vexual: elected
mircea_popescu: totally threw me for a loop, i was all "wait, isn't mtv bankrupt and that guy dead ?!"
nubbins`: yeah this was i guess mid 90s
nubbins`: anyway, i listen to a lot of different types of music in a lot of different genres, but if you don't think odb is a musical genius, you either haven't listened to enough or you don't have taste
mircea_popescu: yeah he's the zappa of rap.
mircea_popescu: the wutangs of invention!
nubbins`: the captain beefheart of hip-hop!
Vexual: insight
mircea_popescu has nfi who cpt beefheart is
Vexual: watch the deadmaus vid, he drives it hard and the mayor says don't worry
Vexual: they talk about potholes
Vexual: 4014 and shit
nubbins`: mircea_popescu a zappa protege
nubbins`: zappa produced his first few albums, same type of strange but way more aleotoric
nubbins`: *aleatoric
assbot: Captain Beefheart - When I See Mommy I Feel Like A Mummy - YouTube
nubbins`: tom waits started experimenting with the gravelly side of his voice after being introduced to captain beefheart by his wife
Vexual: didnt zapaa get ass cancer?
Vexual: troll cough
nubbins`: not sure
assbot: Matt Groening on Trout Mask Replica - YouTube
Vexual: he did
nubbins`: TBH i still find trout mask replica pretty inaccessible
nubbins`: doc at the radar station is a better introduction
Vexual: call it whatevr you like
Vexual: he keeps it real to this day
nubbins` shakes head
nubbins`: captain beefheart, also dead
Vexual: whoa never seen a shake
nubbins`: i think within the past couple years?
nubbins`: ;;google don van vliet
gribble: Captain Beefheart - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Beefheart>; Don Van Vliet Quotes - BrainyQuote: <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/d/don_van_vliet.html>; Don Van Vliet - Bill Lowe Gallery: <http://lowegallery.com/artists/index-scrollbar.php?artist=don-van-vliet>
Vexual: zappas still alive
nubbins`: pickled himself
Vexual: who beefheart?
nubbins`: zappa
nubbins`: how else can he still be kicking
Vexual: i thought he was still alive
Vexual: remmy is still alive
nubbins`: i thought remmy died in 2010
nubbins`: Vexual you'll appreciate this
assbot: Fela Kuti and The Africa 70 with Ginger Baker - Live (1971) - YouTube
Vexual: nah, motorhead
nubbins`: oh lemmy
nubbins`: yeah, he still plays the slots
Vexual: lol
Vexual: thats racist
nubbins`: hey now!
Vexual: not yor vi, th eslots reference
nubbins`: i mean the whaps!
nubbins`: one-arm thieves!
Vexual: whaps?
nubbins`: (they dont have arms anymore)
Vexual: oh
nubbins`: Vexual onomatopeia
nubbins`: from slapping the buttons
Vexual: do you have eskimos?
nubbins`: not personally
Vexual: ouch
nubbins`: they're called inuit here, eskimo is considered a perjorative
Vexual: ;;ud meximo
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Meximo | 3. Meximo. A gay person of Mexican decent. Mexican Homo. "And I'm a greasy Meximo so that'll be, to say the least, tricky." by super_janna November 19, 2009.
Vexual: ud wrong agin
thestringpuller: Vexual: graces us with his presence
Vexual: ive been here for 14 hours
assbot: Making vacuum rotor ('Sherline' micro-lathe) - YouTube
asciilifeform now posted what may be least interesting film on the net
mircea_popescu: is that yours ?
nubbins`: it's true, he was here when i went to bed.
asciilifeform: yes, that one.
asciilifeform: yes, it's scarcely larger than sewing machine
nubbins`: asciilifeform less interesting than the woman filming the microwave timer?
asciilifeform: and, interestingly, made in usa (ancient german patent, i think)
asciilifeform: microwave timer ?
asciilifeform once actually filmed indicator lights on refrigerator, using high speed camera (verified they were, indeed, oscillating, because someone should've failed electrical school)
assbot: vihartvihart's channel - YouTube
nubbins`: great when you're at a party and you feel like people would enjoy a countdown
nubbins`: anyway, nice lathe. you could turn body jewelry on that thing
asciilifeform: some folks do.
asciilifeform: these are reasonably common.
assbot: Sherline Products - mini lathes, mills and machine tool accessories
nubbins`: the tricky bit is internally-threading 16ga stock
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5328 @ 0.00074214 = 3.9541 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: nubbins`: normal people do that with taps
Vexual: you can always make smoking implements if you fall on hard times
nubbins`: asciilifeform: yep... it's tricky 8)
asciilifeform: those are so common, every man woman and child in usa can get own pipe right now from existing inventory, most likely.
asciilifeform: sold in just about every shop of any description.
nubbins`: 5/8" socket: bowl
Vexual: the rain never falls on one mans head
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1vM3EI9-s4 bob marley so much things to say
Vexual: it don't fall on on mans house is the line that'll have the cia kill you
nubbins`: time waits for no man
Vexual: everyman thinks his burden is the heaviest
mats_cd03: id trust you about as far as i could throw you
Vexual: dont fuck with the government
nubbins`: loose lips shake hips
Vexual: if your thongs break, don't worry about it
Vexual: man who walk sideways thru security always going to bankok
Vexual: if you dint do it tell it to em
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> loose lips shake hips << wait wut
assbot: White woman sues sperm bank after insemination from black donor - World - CBC News
nubbins`: imagine
Vexual: nubbins`: mustache has a website
Vexual: its on his tshirt
Vexual: and im chanelling zappa
Vexual: how embarrasing
Vexual: epigenetic effects are gonna be a thing nao
Vexual: grody to the max
Vexual: pussy eating anthem
nubbins`: mircea_popescu this ^ is another example of "rap rave", a la die antwoord
Vexual: blaah not likely
Vexual: its definately a very skilled tongue from brooklyn; ergot rap
nubbins`: ergot rap
TomServo: "rap rave" comon now. Everybody gets their own genres.
mthreat: http://i.imgur.com/kH9cY9w.jpg - who says romance is dead?
nubbins`: mthreat ahahahahha
nubbins`: TE AMO LOCO
nubbins`: ME PINCHE CULO
nubbins`: is this from a playlist where women list NYC area codes or something
Vexual: yes lesbians from 212
Vexual: actuly im not sure about what what
Vexual: but she does call herself what waht
pete_dushenski: speaking of hilariously shitty advertising… gotta love the yahoo! finance ads for "date a rich woman"
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
pete_dushenski: cuz that's how happiness works
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Vexual: dude
Vexual: e equals mc to the lt 253
Vexual: no granny on the moon okay?
nubbins`: pete_dushenski "successful, financially independent women are so utterly unable to find male companionship that they've resorted to finding randon strangers on the internet"
nubbins`: sounds legit
pete_dushenski: lol for the well-heeled ladies i know, it actually is!
pete_dushenski: get a career, get specialized
pete_dushenski: brush off the opportunity for guys while in school
pete_dushenski: find out that the workplace is a narrow, narrow space
pete_dushenski: go online in search of romance
pete_dushenski: end up with derp after derp
pete_dushenski: it's nothing short of tragic
pete_dushenski: they're not getting younger either
Vexual: whats the problem?
pete_dushenski: these career women who thought they "had time to find a guy" are finding out it ain't true
pete_dushenski: nao having to contend with broken heads
Vexual: i thought you were a guy?
pete_dushenski: and having to sift through the piles of manboys who're emasculated by women who earn more than them
pete_dushenski: and get all insecure and bitchy
pete_dushenski: Vexual: o i'm laughin
Vexual: youre complaing about some imaginary womans problem
nubbins`: pete_dushenski it's pretty much all man-boys by this point
pete_dushenski: it's these poor young women who outnumber anything resembling a man 5-1
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: quite.
Vexual: show me one
nubbins`: acting sooky because new sexy mom won't do their laundry
Vexual: seriously
Vexual: its getting late
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: and manboys don't cut the mustard for weak women, much less strong ones
Vexual: did you just menopause today pete?
mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> these career women who thought they "had time to find a guy" are finding out it ain't true << quite. if you're 16 already and your nudies aren't trending on any social media site you're smack drab in the process of missing the mating boat.
mircea_popescu: and on that note, ima bbl
Vexual: define the problem
pete_dushenski: Vexual: problem: women don't age as well as men.
nubbins`: i don't like the name Lynette
pete_dushenski: that is, men have a longer window of opportunity to find a mate.
nubbins`: Lynn is already a female name
nubbins`: you don't need to ette it
pete_dushenski: it ain't fair, but it's true
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: like janette
nubbins`: or, for the francophones among us, ginette
Vexual: don't worry about what anyone else wants pete
assbot: Rocket Internet Shares Fall Below Issue Price at Debut - WSJ
pete_dushenski: Vexual: no?
Vexual: what the ruck is rocket?
nubbins`: not sure
nubbins`: but at this point it'd be unusual to see a stock not fall on IPO-day
pete_dushenski: "Rocket Internet AG a German investor and developer of online businesses, disappointed in its debut on the Frankfurt stock exchange Thursday, falling more than 10% in early trading."
nubbins`: y u no properly valuate?
Vexual: fees too high
assbot: Story I heard about Reddit post-$50M investment includes everyone not in San Francisco getting 1 week to decide whether to move or GTFO. o.0
Vexual: whats wong?
assbot: White woman sues sperm bank after insemination from black donor - World - CBC News
Vexual: seriously, who'd be a sperm bank?
mats_cd03: reminds me of when a korean man sued his wife for having ugly babies
mats_cd03: turns out she'd had substantial facial surgery and never told him about it
mats_cd03: iirc he won too
Vexual: stupid cunts
mats_cd03: lemme see if i can find the link
Vexual: we belive you
mats_cd03: looks like it was a hoax
mats_cd03: IS ANYTHING ON THE INTERNET REAL
RagnarDanneskjol: !up RagnarsBitch
Vexual: nope is china
mats_cd03: supposedly anon just declared war on hk govt
mats_cd03: gl with that mates
nubbins`: heh.
mats_cd03: it'll be about as successful as anon declaring war on HBGary
Vexual: hk govt?
Vexual: theyre cross with bejing
Vexual: for influencing the democratic proces of electing hk govt
Vexual: you can vote but we choose who you vote for
assbot: 'Anonymous' hacker group declares cyber war on Hong Kong government, police | South China Morning Post
mats_cd03: there is no democratic process
mats_cd03: people who think there's democracy in hk are living in a dream world
mats_cd03: the likelihood of hk getting real sovereignty is on par with taiwan, macau, or tibet getting the same
Vexual: well the thing is they're kinda used to democracy and miss it
Vexual: unlike tibet
Vexual: they're unused to teargat tho
mats_cd03: they miss the illusion, thats all
Vexual: oh theyll get what they want
mats_cd03: hong kongers are pissed the economy tanked since rejoining the mainland
mats_cd03: they blame mainlanders for every conceivably irrelevant ill
Vexual: greeks riot, they brethe some tear gas and go home
mats_cd03: and now they're mad the mainlanders are rich as fuck and hong kongers have to suck dick to live
Vexual: well hong kong does pretty well
Vexual: have done for some years
assbot: Extended interview with Jeffrey Robinson - The Business - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
mats_cd03: HKD has tanked since reunification
rithm: this guy is amaze
mats_cd03: HKD >> hong kong dollar
rithm: for posterity
pete_dushenski: "Intercloud, a proposed network of cloud computing systems with high performance, security and control. In addition to improving security, the Intercloud is meant to help companies comply with the regulations of countries regarding the information that moves within their borders."
pete_dushenski: good luck with that, cisco
pete_dushenski: maybe cisco will succeed, and widen the gap between rich a poor even further
pete_dushenski: heh could be worse.
pete_dushenski: internet censorship really only affects the basement dwellers.
assbot: The Internet Is Everything: How Internet Censorship Only Affects The Poor | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
pete_dushenski: ^obligatory
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pete_dushenski: nyt is such a fuckin shill
assbot: China currency (CNY, RMB, Renminbi) exchange rates
pete_dushenski: thickasthieves: it should say "most trusted" on there somewhere
pete_dushenski: though chuck lee's vote of confidence is sorta equivalent to that, for redditards
mats_cd03: whoops wrong link
Vexual: you got my money?
assbot: International Economics - Historial Exchange Rate Regime of Asian Countries
mats_cd03: seems i'm wrong, i need someone that knows more finance than me to chime in
assbot: Dwight R. Lee, Should Government Reduce Inequality in Life Spans? | Library of Economics and Liberty
assbot: Draghi Devaluing Euro Cheers ECB as Inflation Seen Fading - Bloomberg
thickasthieves: low inflation, tis such a problem!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00074211 = 11.4656 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00074323 = 5.054 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00074302 = 3.7894 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00074306 = 11.0716 BTC [+] {2}
TomServo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 323528 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 1047 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 4 hours, 6 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 34108614442.3 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.59489
TomServo: bitcoinwisdom.com is calculating +2.78%... should be interesting!
nubbins`: Q: What's the strangest message you've received from someone tripping on your product?
nubbins`: A: A guy orders 25 hits. I send him a 5x5 sheet. His feedback reads "The hit was very large but I managed to fit it in my mouth. The lines were neat. Good trip". I wonder if the guy thought the 25 hits were one!?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11488 @ 0.00074323 = 8.5382 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00074206 = 9.4984 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00074206 = 11.7245 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: nowai
kakobrekla: !up ristopietila
kakobrekla: is this a mirage
artifexd: Why is assbot not reporting havelock trades anymore?
thickasthieves: they are too smal
kakobrekla: no, cause of their weird setup
thickasthieves: need to be 1btc vol within 2min i think
kakobrekla: and topace is no longer here
kakobrekla: so wtf
thickasthieves: i can connect you with the panama dude if you care
kakobrekla: the ip was changed but the subdomain is same and this apparently bothers their setup
kakobrekla: is he on irc?
thickasthieves: no, he likes phone, but is easily reachable by email, and skyoe i think
kakobrekla: !up ristopietila
ristopietila: kakobrekla: Hi This is not ristopietila , this is davidlatapie setting up an IRC account for Risto :)
kakobrekla: are you going to give him gpg private key too?
kakobrekla: and hello!
ristopietila: Anyway, hi everyone, especially mircea_popescu . I'm sorry I was not able to talk here for some time. That should change in the following weeks
kakobrekla: well this could be fun
ristopietila: kakobrekla: no gpg key for the moment. Later on. The immediate goal will be for him to access invite-only #monero-mew
ristopietila: and hello too, kakobrekla
TheNewDeal: whats monero-meow?
kakobrekla: cryptocurrency for cats
kakobrekla: like doge is for dogs.
fluffypony: such lulz, kako, such lulz :-P
bounce: slegs vir hipsters
fluffypony: net so
assbot: GunPlay +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
kakobrekla: !up GunPlay
GunPlay: thx :-)
kakobrekla: i might want it back!
GunPlay: lol
fluffypony: I don't get it - want what back?
fluffypony: (it should be noted that I'm two gin martinis down at this stage, so there's that)
kakobrekla: ze voice
thickasthieves: lol, Circle's login suggests what email you might be trying to enter
thickasthieves: did you mean xxx@xxx.ca?
nubbins`: did you mean P4ssw0rd?
thickasthieves: this interface is so bad
thickasthieves: the button to buy bitcoin says "deposit"
thickasthieves: and you can only type in USD
bounce: weren't you declaring how easy that thing was earlier on? or was that a different kind of easy?
thickasthieves: i was only declaring i like that they are munching on Coinbase's lunch
thickasthieves: today is first use
thickasthieves: only to test
thickasthieves: they claim no fees, so i'm going to try and do a max vol buy and sell
thickasthieves: see if i can get it to behave no-fee
thickasthieves: i'm betting it wont, and that if it does, there will be other abnormal bank/cc fees
mike_c: no fees, just don't ask about the exchange rate.
thickasthieves: well they seem to sell coins at an obvious premium
thickasthieves: but also buy at that price
thickasthieves: it's just an abstracted fee
thickasthieves: it is possible they are skimming very little though, to attract volume
assbot: The Unpatchable Malware That Infects USBs Is Now on the Loose | WIRED
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00074203 = 9.6835 BTC [-] {2}
xanthyos: i just got video of a bathroom spider trapping a moth
xanthyos: i didn't want to interfere with nature
xanthyos: youtubing now
xanthyos: wrong chan
fluffypony: hah hah
TomServo: ;;ud bathroom spider
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bathroom%20Spider | (n.) The fictional spider used to lure curious roommates, girlfriends, siblings, etc into an utterly destroyed bathroom. Once inside the bathroom, the door is closed  ...
TomServo: hmm.
teward: punkman: i'm surprised github lets that code exist... if it IS, after all, malicious...
dignork: teward: it's just a POC that shows some/most USB sticks firmware can be overwritten, doh
teward: dignork: case in point still - it can be considered malicious
Dimsler: lol
rithm: i've been working on it today dignork
Dimsler: if you're silly enough to trust u3 security
rithm: trying to setup a windows boxen
rithm: but once i got to usbdev.ru i started to hesitate
bounce: can you get the firmware out of the stick with that? might be vaguely interesting to disassemble and inspect
rithm: the github page has "links"
rithm: to all the things you need
rithm: but it's russiun forum
kakobrekla: !up topace
kakobrekla: ;;seen topace
gribble: topace was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 25 weeks, 4 days, 4 hours, 6 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <topace> punkman: no, you are not right. its widely known what my name is
kakobrekla: 25weeks it was.
topace: wow
topace: apparently
topace: guess punkman pisssed me off :p
topace: haha
dub: the real question: is rithm a dancer?
assbot: Snap! ~ Rhythm Is A Dancer - YouTube
kakobrekla turns it up to 11
danielpbarron: http://pavlok.com/ << this thing is supposed to let facebook friends remotely give you an electric shock
assbot: V2 PAVLOK
bounce: yes, let's turn that thing up to 11
rithm: dub i'm like the dub of -otc
rithm idolizes dub
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 65 @ 0.12729237 = 8.274 BTC {9}
dignork: bounce: on the .ru site bunch of firmware_*.rar files, bin files apparently 8051(?), and not crypted, so IDA should be able to read them. *_datasheet*.pdf from the same site might help
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11423 @ 0.00045903 = 5.2435 BTC [-] {12}
asciilifeform: re: usb diddling: i had the entire thing working two years ago, with same 'phison', likewise cribbed russian docs. didn't think it was interesting to anyone other than me.
asciilifeform: so never published.
asciilifeform: now some huckster gets to pretend he had 'glorious original thought.'
assbot: topace +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
asciilifeform: dignork: yes, 8051 variant. yes, ida eats it just fine. but most of the registers are not documented, so much puzzle work.
TomServo: !up topace
asciilifeform: !up topace
topace: heh
kakobrekla: ;;gettrust assbot topace
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask topace!~topace@unaffiliated/topace. Trust relationship from user assbot to user topace: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=topace | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=topace | Rated since: Wed Jun 8 18:37:29 2011
dignork: asciilifeform: why phison specifically, most used, good datasheet leaks from china?
asciilifeform: dignork: no data sheet (at the time) - but leaked fw update util. that chinese scammers used to sell fake (undersized) usb drives at russian flea markets. lifted fw protocol off the wire from these.
dignork: asciilifeform | now some huckster gets to pretend he had 'glorious original thought.' << result: massive novelty! https://www.crowdsupply.com/xipiter/usbcondom
assbot: USBCondom | Crowd Supply
kakobrekla: there exists usb cables with power lines only.
kakobrekla: since ever.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 376.28, Best ask: 377.5, Bid-ask spread: 1.22000, Last trade: 377.5, 24 hour volume: 9023.87851463, 24 hour low: 373.0, 24 hour high: 386.47, 24 hour vwap: 379.224382035
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i own several. who doesn't?
kakobrekla: people buying usb condoms?
asciilifeform: chumps will buy anything?
kakobrekla: cept the antichumpaol.
kakobrekla: someone, somewhere
kakobrekla: is fed up of her shit.
mircea_popescu: .balance
mircea_popescu: !up deedBot
mircea_popescu: .balance
deedBot: deedBot BTC available balance: 0.01709000 in wallet 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu
mircea_popescu: there we go.
kakobrekla: is it registered yet
jurov: http://www.reddit.com/r/trilema/ i just squatted it if anyone cares
assbot: A complete theory of sociology
mircea_popescu: lol you should run it as a hate site.
assbot: Route leak incident on October 2, 2014
fluffypony: "This downtime was the result of a BGP route leak by Internexa, an ISP in Latin America. Internexa accidentally directed large amounts of traffic destined for CloudFlare data centers around the world to a single data center in Medellín, Colombia. This was the result of Internexa announcing via BGP that their network, instead of ours, handled traffic for CloudFlare. This miscommunication caused a flood of traffic to quickly overwhelm
fluffypony: the data center in Medellín."
fluffypony: it's actually pretty hilarious that that can happen
mircea_popescu: fluffypony they're notorious for lying, so... what actually happened may be pieced together if/when internexa blogs about it
thickasthieves: ooo can i be a reddit/trilema troll?
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves you can troll now ?!
thickasthieves: i can do anything, i'm american
fluffypony: thickasthieves is too serious to be a troll
mircea_popescu: he's too responsible and too nice.
mircea_popescu: application DeNiEd
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00074388 = 11.4929 BTC [+] {3}
thickasthieves: yer probly right, i'd be like that guy that takes it too far
dub: are they claiming it was a dos?
mircea_popescu: dub no, they got blown of the net and are claiming it's not because they suck. like you know, tesla explaining that the battery fire was due to a customer setting their car atop a camping gas stove
mircea_popescu: sure, it's possible, in principle.
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: Lynn is already a female name << cock is already a female thing and yet cocotte is perfectly fine.
dub: wording sounds like someone attacked a 3rd party by sending them all cloudflares traffic
mircea_popescu: dub that theory doesn't explain why CF was down.
mircea_popescu: i mean unless someone = god or w/e
dub: well. all their traffic was going somewhere else
mircea_popescu: what, and this reroute instapropagated all over ?
mircea_popescu: in spite of cf's own controlling servers telling a diff story ?
mircea_popescu: how in the heavens does this work ?
dub: boring old bgp jacking yeah, using it as an attack would be new to me
mircea_popescu: it ain't washing as presented.
fluffypony: the funny thing is that there's a person in this room called BGP
mircea_popescu: not saying it's outright impossible or anything, but the story they got is unconvincing at best.
fluffypony: so my IRC client keeps highlighting the word
fluffypony: that and so
fluffypony: so bgp so bgp so bgp
mircea_popescu: who are ye, god of routes.
fluffypony: bgp: why did you break CloudFlare?
rithm slaps bgp
mircea_popescu: are you with the fnac, putting more rote in the routes ?
fluffypony: idle 1 week, 6 days...
mircea_popescu: fluffypony that's what it wants you to think
rithm: a likely alibi...
kakobrekla: beating an idle horse...
rithm: i say burn the witch, if she drowns she wasn't a witch
fluffypony: good point rithm
fluffypony: throw the jew down the well!
assbot: BGP Hijacking for Cryptocurrency Profit | Dell SecureWorks
rithm: if it flies, you made a good decision
cazalla: mircea_popescu: cazalla if you put up random stock footage of dressed uruguayan chicks ima kill you << i thought you said copy coindesk?
asciilifeform: cloudflare 'leak' << 'he ran into my knife, by accident, ten times!'
mircea_popescu: cazalla just fyi in uruguay your name would read cazasha
cazalla: sounds feminine
thickasthieves: !up strp
strp: I don't know why I got voice in here. I'd written, hey. you got recommended as level headed and responsible. do you want an ambitoius, impuslive, capricious, mercurial, expansive partner?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00074203 = 4.1554 BTC [-] {2}
strp: (to thickasthieves)
thickasthieves: so whatcha want?
strp: Just as above. A level-headed responsible business partner to my ambitious, head-strong business ideas that are crazy ambitious, impulsive, capricious, and mercurial.
strp: as I'd written, "I just read somewhere that business partners should have known each other for years. My opinion, is, naaaah."
thickasthieves: those words dont form any actual substance
strp: well, this is a logged channel :)
mircea_popescu: does mercurial mean nice tits ?
thickasthieves: what do you have to hide?
strp: mircea_popescu, I'm a man.
asciilifeform: mr. spam is back!
mircea_popescu: oh i thought that's short for strep
strp: thickasthieves, I think asciilifeform's reaction speaks volumes.
asciilifeform: stirrup finder! aka ninjasp4mz0r
thickasthieves: asii is much more respected in my book than you
mircea_popescu: by the way, did you know girls can get strep cunt if you give them head while you have strep throat ?
thickasthieves: strp just say what you want or leave me alone
mircea_popescu: apparently it's awful.
dub didn't
strp: thickasthieves, I understand this but I came in here at your request. This can hardly be called spamming. If you don't like my suggestion, just say so. :)
thickasthieves: this is what i get for saying i can troll, isnt it
strp: thickasthieves, I told you what I'm looking for. You got a recommendation as a level-headed, responsible person, and if you would like to partner with an ambitious, mercurial, head-strong, impulsive, capricious one who has wildly expansive plans, then tell me. If not, it's okay.
deedBot: Bundled:
thickasthieves: Yes, strp you are just the man I'm looking for, where do we begin?
strp: Well, I'd assume skype, and we can see if there's a match?
dub: first you gotta take off joor shoes
thickasthieves: can we talk here?
strp: I don't know anything about you, and I'd assume you wouldn't want to discuss it in a logged forum. It is difficult to have an uknnown as a business partner without sharing anything, don't you think?
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03: IS ANYTHING ON THE INTERNET REAL << wasn't there a snopes debunk about this urban legend where someone supposedly asked once if things on the internet are real ?
thickasthieves: you assume incorrectly
thickasthieves: i love doing business here
strp: well, when I asked about super-basic and general background information, I got an extremely negative response.
dub: get paul graham in here
strp: why?
thickasthieves: i'm a sensitive man
dub: he's your bff remember
thickasthieves: it's part of my level-headed responsible charm
diametric: strp: welcome back
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/29/cisco-the-internet-needs-more-control/ <<< this from the company that lost 90% of its sales because it turned out they worked as usg spies.
mircea_popescu: how about cisco needs more bankruptcy
jurov: who is strp?
strp: dub, well I did just write him an emial let me check... literally a 1 hour and 16 minutes ago.
thickasthieves: i have mail?!
strp: no, not you.
dub: jurov: ninjashogun
strp: he's trolling me on my YC relationships.
strp: dub, if you weren't trolling --- you would have a lot more luck getting Sam Altman (the current YC president) in here. He has taken a HUGE liking to crypto currencies.
thickasthieves: oh you are connected to ninjashogun?
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03: seems i'm wrong, i need someone that knows more finance than me to chime in << what is the q again ?
mircea_popescu: strp if we didn;'t think him an idiot that argument may hold more value.
strp: dub, see here for example: http://blog.samaltman.com/reddit He is going to give out free equity in Reddit. (10% of the funds it raises on its latest fundraising round)
assbot: reddit - Sam Altman
thickasthieves: ;;gettrust strp
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user strp: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=strp | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=strp | Rated since: never
thickasthieves: you dont even exist!
strp: thickasthieves, anyway you said I was wrong that you owuldn't like to introduce yourself in a public, logged channel. So, go ahead.
mircea_popescu: strp free "equity" in reddit is worth abut the same as free equity in ethereum,
thickasthieves: strp i'm talking about you, i;m simply asking you to state your business
strp: thickasthieves, if (as anyone normal) you would prefer to do it privately you can also PM me an introduction. I don't know anything about you other than that you hang out in -assets and were recomended as responsible and level-headed.
thickasthieves: who are you though? i dont talk to strangers privately
mircea_popescu: davidlatapie what, were you going to count the pies flying ?
dub: someone set you up tat
mircea_popescu: the bomb ?
diametric: strp: nice weather we're having in fort meade today
strp: mircea_popescu, well, I was connected with a guy who I think made heavy coin on ethereum. I didn't verify.
kakobrekla: anyone made any coin on etherum!?
mircea_popescu: you and your retarded boy groups. im sure you're connected to someone who you think has had sex.
mircea_popescu: WITH A GIRL!
strp: if you guys don't prefer to scam today I can share the email I got from the ethereum investor, in wihch he talked aobut some of his returns. (removing his name.)
mircea_popescu: #monero-mew ? srsly ?
strp: I meant to say "troll" not scam, sorry.
mircea_popescu: these ppls.
dub: wat
thickasthieves: strp, here's the deal, you have until your voice in this channel runs out to make your case for talking to me after that dont speak to me again
mircea_popescu: strp yeah, we're totally going to care about some ethereum pr copy. it's like, in short supply.
strp: no thanks, thickasthieves. I don't have to justify talking with anyone else I talk with.
mircea_popescu: !down strp
thickasthieves: !down strp
mircea_popescu: yeah, you do.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how was the factory ?
mircea_popescu: too slow, thicksy.
thickasthieves: i even had it yped already
thickasthieves: no wonder i suck at dota
mircea_popescu: you can't outtype me. NOBODY CAN OUTTYPE ME.
mircea_popescu: I HAD SURGERY FOR IT!
danielpbarron: thickasthieves, you play dota? me too!
fluffypony: !up davidlatapie
fluffypony: davidlatapie: there, fixed
davidlatapie: Thanks fluffypony
thickasthieves: mp's fingers
mircea_popescu: holy shit
thickasthieves: yes daniel, my name is currently Bitcoin in dota
mircea_popescu: you could fuck a cow with that
danielpbarron: there should be an official -assets dota team
davidlatapie: mircea_popescu: Well, this is what happens when one wants to join interesting conversation and can't accept to just let it go because he doesn't have time to answer. So yeah, watching pies flying
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves what the fuck is that anyway ? ringworms ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not proper 'plant', as in factory, but a place related to one of my day jobs.
thickasthieves: i just googled keyboard deformed fingers
davidlatapie: mircea_popescu: how should I understand "#monero-mew ? srsly ?"
mircea_popescu: davidlatapie i didn't manage to get that one. come again ?
davidlatapie: mircea_popescu> davidlatapie what, were you going to count the pies flying ?
davidlatapie: I assume you were resentful because I'm lurking even when voiced
mircea_popescu: yeah, as in, came in here as rpietilla to see if we bite head off and how many times.
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mircea_popescu: im not resentful dood.
mircea_popescu: and i didn;t voice you because i didn't realise you're not voiced.
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust davidlatapie
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user davidlatapie: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=davidlatapie | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=davidlatapie | Rated since: never
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot davidlatapie
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user davidlatapie: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=davidlatapie | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=davidlatapie | Rated since: never
mircea_popescu: ;;rate davidlatapie 1 New blood
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
davidlatapie: ouch, yeah, I really have to fix this WoT things. Entirely my fault.
davidlatapie: mircea_popescu: the rpietila part was purely technical. I was setting up an IRC account for Risto, nothing else :)
rithm: burn the witch!
mircea_popescu: has the guy been in the hospital since his stay after that hotel mishap ?
ben_vulpes: davidtilapia
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: ol, Circle's login suggests what email you might be trying to enter< omfg ?! NOT by quering their userdb i hope beyond hope ?!
thickasthieves: it seemed fairly specific
thickasthieves: i didnt test
kakobrekla: nobody is that stupid
BingoBoingo: Lotta Pie?
chetty: riiiight
davidlatapie: ben_vulpes: lol
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you know how often that was said, in human history ?
mircea_popescu: and how many times it actually was correct ?
kakobrekla: !s 'nobody is that stupid'
kakobrekla: not much
thickasthieves: it might just be a tlf suggester
thickasthieves: since i use a weird one
thickasthieves: yeah it is
thickasthieves: i can type any addy with this tld and it suggests .ca instead with same addy
mircea_popescu: "In one case, they showed that the infected USB can impersonate a keyboard to type any keystrokes the attacker chooses on the victim’s machine. Because it affects the firmware of the USB’s microcontroller, that attack program would be stored in the rewritable code that controls the USB’s basic functions, not in its flash memory—even deleting the entire contents of its storage wouldn’t catch the malware. Other
mircea_popescu: firmware tricks demonstrated by Caudill and Wilson would hide files in that invisible portion of the code, or silently disable a USB’s security feature that password-protects a certain portion of its memory."
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, what's the big deal ?
mircea_popescu: or why is this surprising to anyone, or what exactly ?
assbot: The Unpatchable Malware That Infects USBs Is Now on the Loose | WIRED
assbot: Unpatchable Malware That Infects USBs | Hacker News
assbot: Logged on 02-10-2014 20:12:02; asciilifeform: re: usb diddling: i had the entire thing working two years ago, with same 'phison', likewise cribbed russian docs. didn't think it was interesting to anyone other than me.
dub: maybe s.nsa could release a patch
mircea_popescu: dub how are you going to patch the fact that the microcontroler is a... microcontroler ?
mircea_popescu: ps. the EXACT SAME could be said of... hard drives.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fw reflashable via usb is reflashable - news at 11.
mircea_popescu: and.. video cards.
mircea_popescu: and... MONITORS.
kakobrekla: taking shareholders interest into an account, best would be to sell usb condoms.
ben_vulpes: how did that bitbet hack attempt play out?
ben_vulpes: i'm declaring log bankruptcy
ben_vulpes: 1800 lines
mircea_popescu: no but srsly, is this 2016 "tech" press material, omfg we discovered you could make malicious hard drive
ben_vulpes: by thursday
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i choked from lol when heard of this idiocy, having performed the precisely same experiment, with same chip, long ago, and thought it was entirely boring
mircea_popescu: and all your dumbass "encrypted partition" stuff is worthless therefore ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes not went anywhere.
mircea_popescu: guy's not been back
mircea_popescu: here's 3 more lines for your deficit
thickasthieves: how could i ever trust usb comdoms
mircea_popescu: cum domes
kakobrekla: thickasthieves use 2 to be extra safe
thickasthieves: if you put usb in butt, can you get virus?
mircea_popescu: no but you can get stretch butt.
davidlatapie: mircea_popescu: how should I understand your "#monero-mew ? srsly ?" Funny name, stupid initiative, such idea much wow, else?
asciilifeform: the 'condom' people collected 10k+ usd to build... 4 to 2-wire usb jack. for 10k a man could build an airplane!
mircea_popescu: davidlatapie i have nfi idea what monero is because in spite of being invited fluffypony doesn't want to give the group a presentation. the comment is just as to the improbable nature of the name. why mew and what's someone not in on the jokes to make of it.
thickasthieves: monero is like a darkcoin
thickasthieves: anonicoin
mircea_popescu: teward: punkman: i'm surprised github lets that code exist... if it IS, after all, malicious... <<< since when is github policing the code ?!
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kakobrekla: asciilifeform now imagine one ... with gold plated contacts.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hard drives << all extant drives have trivially flashable fw, and very spiffy cpu and ram kit - sometimes multiple 'cores' and 64M+ ! usually some variant of 'arm'.
kakobrekla: 20k does not escape.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I'll totally do a group presentation...one day...when I have time...promise...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which is my point. if you're going to play evil govt you're better off doing it with hdd.
mircea_popescu: better access to bus than a shitty usb
mircea_popescu: mostly because the usb "standard" looks like something gavin, taaki and that other guy put together.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fetish for usb is because contagion. 'everybody' carries the usb drives. or something like that.
thickasthieves: usb is easier to attack with
mircea_popescu: everybody carries hdds, too.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves how did you figure that one out ?
thickasthieves: havent you ever seen breaking bad?
thickasthieves: l2security
Dimsler: slapstick comedy at best
mircea_popescu: in fact, i've seen computors w/o usbs. not seen any w/o hdds for > 20 years now./
fluffypony: you've seen the USB stuff that was released over the last 24 hours right?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony more like over the past 3-4 weeks but ok.
thickasthieves: mp is just saying there was no reason to think usb was secure
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves that's one half. the other half is, these megadiscoveries suck. o, rly, you can make it be fake kbd ?! wow nelly!
mircea_popescu: you know what, i can make a fake kbd out of tin foil.
Dimsler: can you wear it like a hat?
mircea_popescu: and sling it over my shoulder!
assbot: adamcaudill/Psychson GitHub
fluffypony: such USB.
Dimsler: mircea_popescu, bitbet hacked yet?
kakobrekla: hm, i have a 'fake' keyboard intentionally.
mircea_popescu: Dimsler not afawn
davidlatapie: OK so if fluffypony plans a group presentation, I should not encroach on his turf, mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: anyway, the whole usb reads like so much media whoring to me, possibly with the malicious twist of trying to drown legitimate stuff like THE BASH HOLES!!! AFTER THE SSH HOLES!!!
mircea_popescu: into some sort of general idiotic frenzy.
mircea_popescu: "o look, this car can go in reverse! which is exactly what the manual says! YO COULD KILL PEOPLE!!!"
thickasthieves: probly just a ploy to get everyone to buy new usb sticks
thickasthieves: china needs more work
Dimsler: i don't think it matters
Dimsler: what are you going to do? hack someones cat picutres and selfies?
mircea_popescu: more like a ploy to get people to better learn helplessness.
asciilifeform: the real lulz - idiot lifts ancient material from ru forums, passes it off as fresh turd!
Dimsler: lol i know
thickasthieves: how come russia is so hax inclined
Dimsler: must get money through internet
Dimsler: obviously
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well the muricans are at this major cultural disadvantage where they cnat raed. and so... http://trilema.com/2014/anonymous-derpage/
thickasthieves: orlov is on about americans not readinf today too
thickasthieves: cuz he has a kids book to sell
mircea_popescu: well i got no book to sell.
mircea_popescu: which incidentally makes me realise, this is an excellent reason against a trilema book.
kakobrekla: ;;isitup trilema.com
[]bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "BTC Difficulty over 41Bn before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1050/ Odds: 34(Y):66(N) by coin, 45(Y):55(N) by weight. Total bet: 17.14235445 BTC. Current weight: 37,637.
fluffypony: ;;isup trilema.com
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla stop toying with my heart.
fluffypony: gah, gribble, you suck
fluffypony: !8ball is trilema.com up?
mircea_popescu: ;;isitdown fluffypony.girlfriend
thickasthieves: why make a book when you could just continue curating trilema
kakobrekla: not working here
fluffypony: ;;8ball is trilema.com up?
fluffypony: srsly.
fluffypony: HAH HAH
mircea_popescu: now you made britni crea
fluffypony: I killed gribble
fluffypony: nanotube: sorry
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla try a proxy ?
kakobrekla: works now
kakobrekla: dunno
thickasthieves: isup for me
mircea_popescu: BGP HIJAX!
thickasthieves: try a different usb
thickasthieves: goat is polluting the tradingview chat now
mircea_popescu: anyway, this euro devaluation business is the absolute worst news conceivable for the us.
mircea_popescu: seems obama's fucktarded "sanctions" on russia have backfired monstrously. now the eu is sanctioning the us.
chetty: maybe its what he intended tho, might not be a backfire at all
mircea_popescu: the trade balance's going to look awful.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: is fed up of her shit. <<< i originally thought you said "slit"
thickasthieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 33998165786.8 based on data since last change | 35283698863.9 based on data for last three days
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 323551 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 1024 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 10 hours, 5 minutes, and 13 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 33998165786.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.91354
mircea_popescu: still under huh.
thickasthieves: could be
thickasthieves: could be a good price indicator
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.000742 = 9.9428 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: never was before, but i guess at some point it's gotta start.
thickasthieves: been a long time since we went down in diff, no?
mircea_popescu: actually, it's been over a year.
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu i guess that too
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 180 @ 0.00444555 = 0.8002 BTC [-] {3}
thickasthieves: why is this info so hard to find
kakobrekla: diff?
kakobrekla: its in the blockchain
thickasthieves: sure, but how do you quickly poll that info, diff changes
thickasthieves: and dates
kakobrekla: someone is keeping a google doc up
kakobrekla: somewhere
assbot: Google Sheets - create and edit spreadsheets online, for free.
assbot: Bitcoin Difficulty Chart - Chart of Mining Difficulty History
kakobrekla: coindesk saves the day xD
kakobrekla: thickasthieves sipa.be ?
kakobrekla: ;;google bitcoin sipa
gribble: Bitcoin network graphs: <http://bitcoin.sipa.be/>; sipa (Pieter Wuille) · GitHub: <https://github.com/sipa>; Bitcoin Charts / Bitcoin Network: <http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/>
assbot: MiniGame (S.MG), September 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
thickasthieves: Jan 24 2013 was the last time it went down
assbot: Bitcoin network graphs
thickasthieves: it had been flat since Oct '12
mircea_popescu: also lulzy, and little know fact : bitcoin took a year to get out of 1 diff ?
kakobrekla: !up The20YearIRCloud
The20YearIRCloud: mircea_popescu: are those #s in BTC or eur/usd?
mircea_popescu: "those" ?
The20YearIRCloud: the cash on hand and various figures for s.mg
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1728 @ 0.00074398 = 1.2856 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: all bitcoin.
thickasthieves: pricewise it was at a major just after diff went flat, once diff starting going up again, the price went from $13 to $260
thickasthieves: major low*
The20YearIRCloud: dang, that's alot of reserve capital
mircea_popescu: supposedly making a mmorpg costs millions.
The20YearIRCloud: Depends on quality, my brother is in the industry and has looked long and hard at game development
mircea_popescu: http://www.filmvz.com/pizda/pizda-romaneasca-goala.htm <<< grep for "trilema", see me hack a pronsite.
assbot: Pizda Romaneasca Goala | Filmvz Portal
The20YearIRCloud: The real disconnect is : Do you have a quality team of programmers that know what they're doing or not
The20YearIRCloud: Prior to HASH and his contract work, Ben did data anaylis for a Icann company, and learned quite a bit about the seedy underbelly of video games
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00074193 = 6.529 BTC [-]
The20YearIRCloud: the real problem is finding quality programmers that won't rob you blind. His former company was chock full of guys pulling $100k/yr , yet when it came to business sense there wasn't much to go around.
mircea_popescu: this is quite universal.
The20YearIRCloud: of course, but from what i've seen video game developers are even worse. So many pseudo-artists deciding that it's all better than a lotto ticket. They spent several million on a game that made something like a hundred dollars
The20YearIRCloud: All while ben, their senior data anylist told them it was a failure waiting to happen, and to spend more effort on advertising their games that were already cash positive
The20YearIRCloud: The company had a patent on some pretty amazing software dealing with getting html5 to convert old PC games to online play. Some were even phone compatible I guess. but instead they wanted to spend a bunch of VC on some pie in the sky, get rich quick game that flopped massively
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
mircea_popescu: what was it called ?
The20YearIRCloud: the company or the failure game?
mircea_popescu: the game
The20YearIRCloud: I can't remember, it was a guitar hero clone that was exclusively for facebook, and was controlled by your keyboard
mircea_popescu: well, the company then
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24919 @ 0.00074199 = 18.4896 BTC [+]
mod6: %d
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 303620.70 in 616 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -83.83
BingoBoingo: Oh, the US is going to use that plane they wanted to mothball this year against ISIS http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-usafs-much-maligned-a-10-warthogs-are-deploying-to-1640395280/+laceydonohue
assbot: The USAF's Much Maligned A-10 Warthogs Are Deploying To Fight ISIS
mircea_popescu: because you know, it's "not needed"
mircea_popescu: being the only us plane of actual use in the field.
BingoBoingo: Exactly. Fighterjets are important to counter all of those ISIS fighterjets.
mircea_popescu: "Please note that this channel is only for reports of alleged infringements or
mircea_popescu: violations of your legal rights, such as copyright or trademark. If you filed that
mircea_popescu: type of report, no further action is necessary. However, if you contacted us through
mircea_popescu: this channel about another matter, you might not receive a response."
mircea_popescu: dumbest notification ever.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11205 @ 0.00074425 = 8.3393 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3308 @ 0.00074551 = 2.4661 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: hanbot put in deedsbot too
assbot: BitBet (S.BBET) September 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
RagnarDanneskjol: deedbot is undergoing some cleanup
mircea_popescu: !up deedBot
deedBot: deed 8A736F0E2FB7B452 mircea_popescu with 1 signature valid in next bundle
kakobrekla: !s from:kakobrekla .deed
deedBot: deed 8A736F0E2FB7B452 mircea_popescu with 1 signature valid in next bundle
kakobrekla: link to pastebin ?
kakobrekla: wtf this is too much overhead
RagnarDanneskjol: http://deedbot.com is where those will post in the near future
assbot: deedBot
deedBot: deed 8A736F0E2FB7B452 mircea_popescu with 1 signature valid in next bundle
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla nah to the bundle as signed.
kakobrekla: there is nothing there
kakobrekla: a wait
assbot: BitBet (S.BBET) September 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
kakobrekla: (Your comment is awaiting moderation)
mircea_popescu: yay splendid!
mircea_popescu: i mean splendeed
kakobrekla: 2 suggestions: make deeds searchable and add a simple syntax, at least so that we specify 'title' and 'content' in the signed content
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol this new "from x recent days" system is atrocious.
mircea_popescu: simply break stuff up in 1k line pages say
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 40(Y):60(N) by coin, 57(Y):43(N) by weight. Total bet: 2818.19563162 BTC. Current weight: 40,254.
RagnarDanneskjol: like I mentioned, I believe development and hosting for the bot needs to change hands real soon
deedBot: deed 454B0FC0BC07B87E hanbot with 1 signature valid in next bundle
RagnarDanneskjol: I wouldnt do any deeds at this point. I believe he is resetting a lot of things
RagnarDanneskjol: but cannot get a straight answer
assbot: DEEDS
mircea_popescu: he'd better not be resetting any lot of things.
RagnarDanneskjol: as with previous updates, he had to backup the deed list and reinstall I believe. please discuss with him - I dont want to misrepreset
mircea_popescu: i'm right here.
assbot: Bitcoin Address 1FG2dA9D6Fmop6v9uKvGwW22UykRdt5T55
mircea_popescu: so basically this fuckwit put in a buncha unconfirmable satoshi spoam just to get his dumbass website included (text only, no link) on blockchain website
mircea_popescu: they gotta go to a special school to be this untimely stupid, it just can't occur naturally.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ^ there, that's your idiot working "to make money while he sleeps". that's the prototype.
mircea_popescu: couldn't be in here, doing honest, useful work and building himself in the process.
mircea_popescu: o, no, he's got to be an independent fucktard, doing nothing for 20 years and then wondering why the state isn't taking care of his asthma.
mircea_popescu: and you know what ? here : http://bitmsqr.com
mircea_popescu: and im gonna fucking click it, too, just so he imagines this retardation works.
mircea_popescu: some people are their own best punishment.
asciilifeform: defunct.
mircea_popescu: dude....
mircea_popescu: where's my fucking neocortex.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You got scammed, the shop just left the oldcortex in. There never was a new one.
mircea_popescu: no i meant it as an expression of general oy vey.
assbot: What a glorious time to be alive - Imgur
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Who is that?
nubbins`: some guy
nubbins`: looks 3d printed, custom job i'm assuming
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11340 @ 0.00074551 = 8.4541 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: !up jborkl
jborkl: Good evening
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1256 @ 0.00057945 = 0.7278 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Evening
assbot: [MPEX] [D.BTGO] 12 @ 0.0524997 = 0.63 BTC
mircea_popescu: damn this kbd is falling apart.
mircea_popescu: i've destroyed so many...
kakobrekla: get a model m?
mircea_popescu: i guess yeah
mircea_popescu: tbh i kinda like destroying kbds. strokes my immortality delusion.
kakobrekla: perhaps there are better things to destroy
mircea_popescu: i destroy those, too.
asciilifeform: 'model m' can only really be destroyed with power tools.
asciilifeform: or perhaps axe.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i sometimes rage.
asciilifeform: also great to rage with. steel bottom.
asciilifeform: can break other objects.
mircea_popescu: well yeah but a chino kbd is 10 bux.,
mircea_popescu: other objects... not so much
asciilifeform: 'model m', secondhand, perhaps 20. (usually they need a day worth of cleaning through)
mircea_popescu: 2*24th hand model m, 20 bux
mircea_popescu: explosive congestive polio, priceless.
mircea_popescu: and if i use it to cut a hole in my wall ima need a new wall.
kakobrekla: excuses
mircea_popescu: i admeet.
asciilifeform: good compromise - 'northgate' kbd.
asciilifeform: i've one in this room
asciilifeform: and has kosher f-keys.
mircea_popescu: my current device is SOL Tech
mircea_popescu: pretty much only english layout kbd i could find here.
kakobrekla: ever used topre ?
[]bot: Bet placed: 999 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 29(Y):71(N) by coin, 47(Y):53(N) by weight. Total bet: 3817.19563162 BTC. Current weight: 40,234.
kakobrekla: lolwat
Duffer1: ok then
kakobrekla: also []bot is still broked, missing bets
asciilifeform: 'In the world of gourmet keyboards, the Topre key switch is widely considered to be the Holy Grail. Some have even made love to their Topre’s… '
assbot: An Apparent Keyboard Geek Finally Learns to Type | Byte Cellar
kakobrekla: have you used it ascii?
asciilifeform: negative.
kakobrekla: the tx?
kakobrekla: its cumin from mpex
mircea_popescu: lol so basically bitbet is now sitting pretty on 30-40 btc unearned income ?
kakobrekla: at least bci sez so
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction cefd947f657dcb436a56e1c7fa62a0f38daa7ff0057fb1fc354bfdbbc0e98c31
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla look at that, it is.
mircea_popescu: split in 1/999 too
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> lol so basically bitbet is now sitting pretty on 30-40 btc unearned income ? << Just imagine if people decided to fuck with BitBet by using referal links and cut that to 15 - 20
mircea_popescu: not possibru anymoar.
mircea_popescu: they can only cut future revenue/unearned incomes
mircea_popescu: o look, cloudflare is failing to protect blockchain.info and claiming the problem resides with blockchain info.
mircea_popescu: such assholes. wow.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> they can only cut future revenue/unearned incomes << Right, the move to cut referalls from all of a bet's rake to part of it was solid
mircea_popescu: no, it's just, the bets that are already in are already in, referrals already paid and accounted for.
BingoBoingo: I know, but I mean in the future where every scam site tries to Raep BitBet referrals because it pays better than advertising
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 3817.19563162 * [market-last]
gribble: Error: "market-last" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: hows that go
mircea_popescu: he let em
kakobrekla: ;;calc 3817.19563162 * [ticker --last]
gribble: 1426715.03927
kakobrekla: dun worry, it will be less million soon
mircea_popescu: o look, enough to pay for like... hookers
mircea_popescu: and blow.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00074595 = 14.546 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: i like the guy's style tho. testing bitbet deposit address with one bitcoin!
mircea_popescu: like a baws!
decimation: asciilifeform: neat video
decimation: I use a unicomp on a mac, it lacks the 'f-key' panel on the left
decimation: those keys would be handy in emacs
assbot: Dogecoin transactions are outpacing those in bitcoin; here's why that's not surprising - The Tell - MarketWatch
mircea_popescu: ahhh, nothing quite like a little bit of historical, failed shilling.
mircea_popescu: fuck you, marketwatch. how's that egg on your face ?
mircea_popescu: is it me or is pete_d on a roll ?
decimation: press organs are about as accountable as usg 'leaders'
mircea_popescu: in that the difference is nigligible
mircea_popescu: with i from nigglet.
decimation: here is an example of them holding each other accountable http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/02/obama-attacks-fox-news-in-northwestern-speech/
assbot: Obama Attacks Fox News In Northwestern Speech | The Daily Caller
decimation: "“But I have laid out my ideas to create more jobs and grow more wages,” Obama told students at Northwestern University following a high-dollar fundraiser for Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn. ”A true opposition party should have the courage to lay out theirs. There’s a reason fewer Republicans are preaching doom on deficits – because they’re now manageable.”"
decimation: fox news' biggest mistake is covering this guy at all
mircea_popescu: no dude it's funny
BingoBoingo: He's on a role
thickasthieves: <+[]bot> Bet placed: 999 BTC for No //// !!!!
decimation: 'lunatic leftie derps to young idiots', click here to learn more
mircea_popescu: in what sense is obama left anyway ?
decimation: well, I guess he's in favor of growing the bureaucracy
mircea_popescu: that's left ?
mircea_popescu: actually, the better question being, what IS left anymore anyway.
mircea_popescu: seems totally bankrupt ideology. intellectually, practically... what's it stand for anymore ?
decimation: well, I would suggest that the left has so utterly dominated for so long that they have become a cartoon of themselves
thickasthieves: i have a feeling this berksire bet will be legendary past our years
mircea_popescu: more like, the derpage in charge has been nominally identified as "left" for so long.
decimation: I guess the ideological leftists are nominally in favor of the derps
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves actually, it's quite possible it's the only thing that'l even be remembered
mircea_popescu: sort-of like nobody remembers glbse, or bitcoin magazine, or w/e other derpage went on in the 2012s.
thickasthieves: so who's putting another 1k on Yes?
mircea_popescu: the thing with that is... people have waited for a while. as a result the sides are weight-unbalanced. the seed 1k on yes has a 100k weight whereas current bets only get 40k
mircea_popescu: whereas the recent 2.5k on no have 40k weight.
mircea_popescu: or 45 w/e
mircea_popescu: so the pool is like 123mn to 100mn.
decimation: it'll be awesome of btc/usd goes up another leg in the next few months and that bet becomes bigger than whatsapp
mircea_popescu: which btw... i wonder if one day the dollar value of bets will be < the pool values :D
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> actually, the better question being, what IS left anymore anyway. << Honestly as an alternative to fleeing the US staying back to oversee partitioning is becoming an attractive option
mircea_popescu: "oversee".
mircea_popescu: that's like what, overseeing the flood ?
thickasthieves: or the mines
mircea_popescu: decimation totally lol. if btc runs up to say 800 that no;ll need a shitload o' hedgin'.
thickasthieves: and/or if BRKA corrects
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Basically taking pictures, recording the lulz
decimation: BingoBoingo: except you are basically propsing that you want to surf the wave of terror to power
decimation: works out for some, not so much for otheres
thickasthieves: i have 5btc at 100k weight on Yes
decimation: at $800 the total bet is worth $3 mil
BingoBoingo: decimation: Nah, maybe I just want to see the world burn? I've got a camera. I've got a tent. By oversee I don't mean taking control, but documenting the absence of control for great lulz.
decimation: sure, sounds like fun. maybe we can 'mad max' together over the western wastes
BingoBoingo: Maybe?
BingoBoingo: One can't exactly oversee entropy in the same way one oversaw order on the plantations
assbot: Virtual Apple 2 - Online disk archive -- Oregon Trail
nubbins`: i didn't bet on brk-a
thickasthieves: i have a small bet on the other side too
nubbins`: my imaginary money is on no
nubbins`: s.mg bet cleared, trying to think of ways to make next one more interesting
thickasthieves: S.anything will have any sort of revenue
thickasthieves: mg or nsa
nubbins`: well i don't really have an s.nsa stock warrant sitting idle
thickasthieves: no stock for tshirts program?
nubbins`: simple job, no need to complicate w/ warrants
assbot: Local news from Rock Hill, SC | The Herald
thickasthieves: they are repopening after talks with FTC
nubbins`: "labeling of the company as bogus and scammers"
nubbins`: your company is bogus and scammers!
dub: no you is
assbot: Self-Destructing SSDs Will Nuke Themselves If You Text Them a Code Word
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 213 @ 0.00280001 = 0.5964 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00074327 = 10.9261 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 95 @ 0.01079757 = 1.0258 BTC [-] {3}
mats_cd03: why does freenode suck so much
mats_cd03: i've been forced to reconnect five or six times in the last three weeks
kakobrekla: totally unacceptable
mats_cd03: failing marks for bad uptime mates
kakobrekla: for a free service
kakobrekla: better ask your money back
mats_cd03: i'm glad we're on the same page
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00074327 = 14.5681 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36864 @ 0.00074326 = 27.3995 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2354 @ 0.00074146 = 1.7454 BTC [-]
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 180 Ask: 200 Last Price: 266 24h-Vol: 1k High: 266 Low: 266 VWAP: 266
assbot: What I Learned from My Time in Prison | Daily Stormer
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plenty of Þorns!
asciilifeform: (or were they ðorns?)
asciilifeform blows dust off 'intro to norse'
BingoBoingo: Oh many many things.
Dimsler: BingoBoingo, thats a good read
decimation: odin doth frown upon the state of norway
Dimsler: 18 days in jail
Dimsler: for doing 50km/h over the limit
Dimsler: in norway
Dimsler: btw
asciilifeform: Dimsler: to even own car in No, you have to be genuinely and truly loaded.
Dimsler: all those germanic places creap me the fuck out
Dimsler: as much as i love swedish girls
Dimsler: the nords are just on another planet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8591 @ 0.00074248 = 6.3786 BTC [+]
Dimsler: not too sure how this hick from the ozarks is relating himself to anytype of nord valhalla anything
mircea_popescu: !up DanielKrawisz
BingoBoingo: Dimsler: My understanding of it is that in US prisons Scandanavian lore is appropriated so as to be "Whiter than the Brits"
DanielKrawisz: Oh, hello.
mircea_popescu: I've got a camera. I've got a tent. << lmao what an attitude
DanielKrawisz: I don't understand IRC very well. I'm trying to get into the WOT.
Dimsler: oh no
mircea_popescu: where was that wiki link
Dimsler: you have to get into WOW first
Dimsler: and make a character
mircea_popescu: !s first steps
assbot: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]
Dimsler: lol
Dimsler: what the fuck is the nakamatoinstitute?
Dimsler: seriously are you going to be preaching the satoshibible here?
mircea_popescu: heraldonline ?!
BingoBoingo: <Dimsler> what the fuck is the nakamatoinstitute? << Recent college kids playing with the idea of an online museum
DanielKrawisz: There is no satoshi bible.
DanielKrawisz: It's living code.
Dimsler: oh like the matrix?
mircea_popescu: DanielKrawisz this "reddit should build on bitcoin" stuff is lulzy.
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