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assbot: White House orders review of police 'militarization' programs - World - CBC News
nubbins`: A REVIEW WILL SOLVE THIS PROBLEM
nubbins`: "white house orders review of civilian 'militarization' programs"
mircea_popescu: wait wut ?
mircea_popescu: "only da police may militarize BITCH"
nubbins`: ah, the future
asciilifeform saw that in a trilema article, first thought 'plucked peacock'
mircea_popescu: !up dxrt
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00063493 = 14.4129 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4437 @ 0.00063544 = 2.8194 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19335 @ 0.00063408 = 12.2599 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: !up knotwork
X-Rob: mircea_popescu: aaand we're back
X-Rob: that was unpleasant
X-Rob: from 12:02:26 PM to 4:39pm
X-Rob: 5 hours.
RagnarDanneskjol: X-Rob - what platform do you use for the pool?
X-Rob: RagnarDanneskjol: That's 6 avalon3 blades
RagnarDanneskjol: sorry, I thought you ran the pool as well - I meant pool software
BingoBoingo: X-Rob: mircea_popescu: Power issues. Will be off for possibly a couple more hours. Will pro-rata a discount at current estimated << I thought I had power issues today
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so how long was it unmining today ?
BingoBoingo: I have no idea yet. Just coming back online myself.
mircea_popescu: aite lemme know.
BingoBoingo: And coinminer's page seems down
BingoBoingo: ~6 hours and 50 minutes ago was the last mined block for our pool
mircea_popescu: aite ima go dance in the rain. later.
X-Rob: OMFG this pool is FUCKING TERRIBLE
BingoBoingo: Well, you still plan on throwing us a less terrible p2pool? When the digging is done?
RagnarDanneskjol: I'm working on sourcing you guys a few alternate pool options
RagnarDanneskjol: BingoBoingo - are you sure p2pool is the preferred platform?
BingoBoingo: RagnarDanneskjol: The transparency it affords is exceedingly desirable.
X-Rob: BingoBoingo: I'm going to set one up shortly.
X-Rob: shortly as in 'in a few hours'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00063544 = 5.4966 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33350 @ 0.00063296 = 21.1092 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: tensorjack/coinbridge GitHub
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.0006315 = 13.1352 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: god morgen
RagnarDanneskjol: I think I got China to seriously consider the circular multilat barter platform you recommended. many thanx for that
punkman: RagnarDanneskjol: cool, nobody needs another ripple clone
punkman: gonna attempt to clean up some chinese php now, god help me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28355 @ 0.00063546 = 18.0185 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17836 @ 0.00063233 = 11.2782 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2885 = 0.577 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: How to Steal an Encryption Key by Simply Touching a Laptop | Motherboard
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6964 @ 0.00063113 = 4.3952 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00063251 = 19.8608 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20150 @ 0.00063094 = 12.7134 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: is that an oscilloscope in your pocket?
Vexual: ./ink
RagnarDanneskjol: does anyone know if github reflects the latest atc ver? https://github.com/therealaltcoin/altcoin
assbot: therealaltcoin/altcoin GitHub
Vexual: yep, 1.0
Vexual: if memory serves it's cloned from 8.3 or some such
Vexual: thank pankak
RagnarDanneskjol: righty oh - I'm workin on a pool/explorer/web wallet for it today. poor coin has been woefully neglected
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00063585 = 11.5725 BTC [+]
Vexual: cool shit
Vexual: what pool server software do you intend to use
RagnarDanneskjol: going to try multiple options - prolly mpos cuz p2pool sux hairy balls
RagnarDanneskjol: the worst. I hate it
Vexual: nod
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 119 @ 0.00615 = 0.7319 BTC [-]
Vexual: well if you're not busy tommorrow, perhaps you could make another exchange too
RagnarDanneskjol: that is a much taller order & above my paygrade... I know lotsa smart kids that can do it tho
Vexual: !up RagnarsBitch
Vexual: !s asciilifeform + drunk
Vexual: !s shenzen
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21723 @ 0.00063057 = 13.6979 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00063037 = 12.3553 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00063469 = 19.7389 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00063594 = 4.706 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.58037915 BTC to 14`987 shares, 10545 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 4.84144948 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 421 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 964 @ 0.00101651 = 0.9799 BTC [-] {27}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00062993 = 14.1104 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 570 @ 0.00099998 = 0.57 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00063684 = 16.5578 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2000 @ 0.00099999 = 2 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: anyone tried owncloud?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00062959 = 6.4848 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: How come a lot of scammers are british?
kakobrekla: they are?
ThickAsThieves: in my own life's observation
assbot: [BTC-TC] CIPHERMINE.B1 - a virtual corporate bond with a 22% fixed-fiat APR
mthreat: ThickAsThieves: it's because of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWgWUnZgEyU
assbot: Jaguar - British Villains 'Rendezvous' - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 900 @ 0.00099994 = 0.8999 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: see, i didnt make this up!
fluffypony: jurov yes
fluffypony: I struggled to get it working
fluffypony: and in the end I wasn't very impressed with it
xmj: what does owncloud do?
fluffypony: xmj: it's a cloud backend
fluffypony: so you can run your own Dropbox
jurov: xmj, i wrote about it above
xmj: ah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.289 = 0.578 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6280 @ 0.00083292 = 5.2307 BTC [-] {27}
X-Rob: BingoBoingo: I gave up on that pool. It was getting worse. I'm solo-mining to that address for the moment. I started writing a playbook so I can deploy pools easily, and I'll hopefully finish it after work today.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.289 = 2.312 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: the overhead on that thing...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00063595 = 7.6314 BTC [+]
mod6: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 509.82, Best ask: 511.28, Bid-ask spread: 1.46000, Last trade: 511.29, 24 hour volume: 6908.55900746, 24 hour low: 487.0, 24 hour high: 512.69, 24 hour vwap: 499.523223544
mod6: %p
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.11 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 642.91 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.78 TH/s
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00063594 = 21.2404 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: X-Rob: Well, I see we've gotten a few blocks since the switch, so... Improvement
X-Rob: BingoBoingo: yeah. Seems to be mining away happily now. Just that I have no proof-of-mining, apart from random blocks appearing, and I don't like that. So yeah, I'll get onto making a pool later. But it's work-o'clock now.
BingoBoingo: X-Rob: Doesn't sound like the worst thing.
BingoBoingo: !up Duffer1
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 234620.37 in 1760 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -87.51
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 170 Ask: 221 Last Price: 170 24h-Vol: 0k High: 170 Low: 170 VWAP: 169
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 512.14, Best ask: 513.77, Bid-ask spread: 1.63000, Last trade: 513.77, 24 hour volume: 7398.67010189, 24 hour low: 487.0, 24 hour high: 515.95, 24 hour vwap: 500.399075407
BingoBoingo: ^ OMG BTC price is ATC block reward
mod6: ;;later tell mike_c need help with WoL
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: BitcoinStats
BingoBoingo: mod6: Any idea if atcbot can get a 30 day VWAP command?
mod6: i'd be preferable to me if x-bt would provide that in the JSON
mod6: i don't want to have to calculate anything if possible.
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: Can we get a 30 day VWAP?
kakobrekla: !up DiabloD3
kakobrekla: DiabloD3 noctua sucks compared to bequiet.
kakobrekla: way too much mechanical noise.
decimation: re: handle's rant on the black rioting: http://handleshaus.wordpress.com/2014/08/17/procrustean-rashomon/#comment-4591 << Vladimir has a great comment: "On the other hand, libertarians and conservatives often have some vague intuitive understanding of the real issue, i.e. that the change in policing is just another manifestation of the sad fact that Americans and other Anglos are no longer a free people capable of governing
assbot: Procrustean Rashomon | Handle's Haus
decimation: themselves. However, as in everything else, instead of coming to the ineluctable reactionary conclusions, they try to talk about it in ways that they hope it will get them status points and sympathy from progressives."
decimation: !up The20YearIRCloud
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1462 @ 0.0009974 = 1.4582 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.28899999 = 2.312 BTC [-]
assbot: If you ask someone where he comes from & he answers "Europe",odds are he is Romanian or Bulgarian.A German wd answer "Germany".Same Fr/I/Sp
assbot: Someone bemoaned that there were so few women in economics. But there are also very few men in economics.
pete_dushenski: ^or anywhere else for that matter
pete_dushenski: The20YearIRCloud: Eh, gdp between 2nd world and 3rd world is huge, much easier to pay some PMCs and take over a african despot than say kazachstan << reminds me of when elbonia went from a 2nd world country from a 3rd. the only difference being that now they had enough food and were starting to get picky about it.
pete_dushenski: http://imgur.com/uOUKRS4 << "airline food, again?"
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
decimation: anti-fragile by taleb has some interesting points. I wonder if he would consider bitcoin "fragile". In one sense, it is fragile because its current implementation relies on fragile computers and somewhat poorly wrought software. In another sense, it is strongly anti-fragile because it benefits from any event that casts doubt on the ability of nation-states to manage their own scrip.
pete_dushenski: youtubetard: yea...Quebec will hopefully demonstrate a peaceful and constructive seccesion << this, i'd like to see
decimation: independent quebec would produce hydropower and baked goods, not much else...
pete_dushenski: decimation: to the extent that bitcoin is short usd, taleb would love it to the extent that he could be bothered to understand it
pete_dushenski: taleb's too distracted by the shenanigans in his homeland
pete_dushenski: independent quebec could produce all the same things they currently do: flour, maple syrup, construction management
decimation: yeah I get his point that old stuff is better, but sometimes a new technology does come along. While he derides electronics, it is clear that man will be making integrated circuits until the end of time (unless a better technology supersedes it)
decimation: in the case of bitcoin, I think he confuses the shoddy nature of modern computers with bitcoin as a technology, which can and will exist independently from today's crap-o-soft
pete_dushenski: xmj: What would make for a better home base in 2015 or 2016: Luxembourg, Monaco or Jersey/Guernsey? << try opatija, croatia. twas good enough for franz joseph i
decimation: the book comes off as a combination of "listen to the wisdom of your elders" and "get off my lawn"
pete_dushenski: decimation: it's almost exactly that, combined with "don't make naive, model-based predictions and bet all your chips on models mapping reality"
xmj: pete_dushenski: you missed the part where i was asking for germanic/anglosaxon hemisphere
xmj: pete_dushenski: i'm currently considering the area of Eindhoven NL
pete_dushenski: xmj that's a hemisphere nao?
xmj: pete_dushenski: always been9~
pete_dushenski: opatija is due south of berlin
xmj: commonwealth + central europe. House Windsor is germanic origin, eh
pete_dushenski: hemisphere being drawn longitudinally…
xmj: eh whatever
pete_dushenski: ok, so berlin then
xmj: ???
decimation: umm, croatia is a few hour drive to germany right?
xmj: berlin is not in the space of permissible answers as defined in the question.
Apocalyptic: <BingoBoingo> [21:49:51] Apocalyptic: Can we get a 30 day VWAP? // possibly
xmj: decimation: I'm currently in Ljubljana, it's not that much of a stretch to go there the next couple of days
jurov: have you met kako?
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: Such a thing would probably one of the most usefull things the environment around ATC could have, since... This thing trades slow
Apocalyptic: indeed
xmj: who is that and why would i want to?
jurov: kako is kakobrekla
jurov: and he's good fellow to meet in person
jurov: lives somewhere there
jurov: ;;gettrust xmj kakobrekla
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla. Trust relationship from user xmj to user kakobrekla: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=xmj&dest=kakobrekla | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kakobrekla | Rated since: Fri May 13 18:50:53 2011
BingoBoingo: bacon and eggs, even sausages most of the time would be appropriate gifts to bear xmj
xmj: somewhere where?
jurov: in slovenia
xmj: near opatija?
xmj: BingoBoingo: and why would i want to bring a stranger gifts?
xmj: especially those items i'd just eat myself.
xmj laughs
BingoBoingo: http://bitcoin-assets.com << See the section titled how to stay
assbot: #bitcoin-assets | You cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship.
jurov: idk, you met strangers in estonia or such too?
xmj: sure.
jurov: just a thought
xmj: i didn't bring them unwarranted gifts
xmj: kakobrekla: hi
BingoBoingo: ;;topic
xmj: kakobrekla: jurov things it's necessary we meet. i'm in ljubljana for an indefinite amount of time, how about beer if you're in town?
xmj: kakobrekla: thinks*
BingoBoingo: It isn't unwarranted. It's on the first link in the topic
xmj: BingoBoingo: I don't get it?
BingoBoingo: xmj: Well someone founded the channel and created text for the page...
jurov: i don't think kako meant literal bacon and sausages
jurov: but then, it implies he's bi?
jurov ponders
xmj: jurov: when at home I eat eggs and bacon all day every day
jurov: enjoy. me too
jurov: all kinds of sausages.
xmj: ahahah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 222 @ 0.00400002 = 0.888 BTC [-] {4}
jurov: in-person connections are antifragile
kakobrekla: ;;google monthy python bacon eggs spam
gribble: Monty Python - Spam - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE>; Spam (Monty Python) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_(Monty_Python)>; The Monty Python Spam Skit! - Detritus.org: <http://www.detritus.org/spam/skit.html>
kakobrekla: hi xmj
kakobrekla: any approximate timeframe for how long you staying?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: punkman: pete_dushenski: sounds like a death wish << i'd definitely mow him down. fucking biking hipsters. << real hipsters ride horses.
kakobrekla: my drivers license expired recently, havent gone through the bureaucracy of extending it yet so ima bit grounded - do you have a car here or how do you get around
jurov: ah they said nothing about sausages
xmj: kakobrekla: undefined
xmj: kakobrekla: no car, i'll stay until i get bored
xmj: kakobrekla: where are you based?
asciilifeform: he confuses the shoddy nature of modern computers with bitcoin as a technology, which can and will exist independently from today's crap-o-soft << this.
asciilifeform: real hipsters ride horses << nah. they ride... grinding wheels. e.g., http://www.robotee.com/image/NEWS/31020_SoloWheel_timthumb.jpg
asciilifeform had a dream many years ago that his grandfather took an ancient grinding wheel from workshop, turned it upside-down, and taught him to ride it. and now people actually do something quite like this.
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assbot: Shark Cat on Roomba Chasing Duck - Original HD TWT Version - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69700 @ 0.00063384 = 44.1786 BTC [-] {5}
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: lol i saw one of those around town recently. definitely not hipster material
pete_dushenski: hipster at least desire the company of others, unlike anyone who uses grinding wheels
asciilifeform: doesn't have to be alone - what's to stop somebody from riding grinding wheels in regiment ?
jurov: grinding wheel gang
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: well, cost.
pete_dushenski: they're $2k a piece
pete_dushenski: a bicycle is $100
pete_dushenski: hipsters tend to be pretty broke, spending all disposable income on max iphone plans
pete_dushenski: not that horses are cheap, but at least the ride in teams properly
pete_dushenski: s/the/they
assbot: Amazon.com : Solowheel by Inventist : Childrens Ride Ons : Sports & Outdoors
assbot: ninjashogun +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -3
kakobrekla: !up ninjashogun
kakobrekla: usg nsa wifi?
kakobrekla: ;;later tell mircea_popescu you can sort by weight now.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ninjashogun: thanks kakobrekla.
ninjashogun: laters*
pete_dushenski: *BingoBoingo likes ben_vulpes lack of serious competition << likewise!
xmj: huh.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: I mean if the situation for the blacks improved... would there be a Ferguson? << read the lulziest headline on a national newspaper yesterday "blacks still aren't equal to whites. some think obama should do more."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44048 @ 0.00063299 = 27.8819 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://danielpbarron.com/DerpReport/ << updated
assbot: Derp Report
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: TLUG Mailing List
abathingape: "...due to work being much more busy than expected (especially in the last 3 years)."
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: jewland too. it's just not in the cards for that continent, having civilised countries there. << myeah. move jews and boers to south america already.
assbot: Stunning photo of CA's drought from /NASA & /KTVU - this is a pic of Folsom Lake: http://t.co/VU5iRS11bo
kakobrekla: well why did they leave the gates open!
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: re:http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20197180&postcount=28 << I've actually bought a drink with Euros at an American bar
danielpbarron: lol, where?
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron on the dams!
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Just some mexican bar
assbot: Dining From Trash to Table in Brooklyn - WSJ
BingoBoingo: *themed
assbot: Ferguson Police Officer Justin Cosma Hog-Tied And Injured A Young Child, Lawsuit Alleges
mircea_popescu: hi all, and welcome to mp's string of sunday pronnouncements!
mircea_popescu: pronouncement #1 : and he said unto them lo! that bitbet now allows searching by weight of bets!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00062894 = 6.7926 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: pronouncement #b : and then he spake thus : ye knoweth the evil people of the world know no rest, for the very fire of hell scorches their gullets on the inside so they may never sit quietly in a room. and therefore it will come to pass that they will put pressure on freenode, starting for instance last thursday.
mircea_popescu: knoweth ye, that while it is unlikely for freenode to buckle, more than anything because its brains are so scattered it's unlikely to manage to gather enough management to do anything, nevertheless this isn't a reason to not build parachute
mircea_popescu: and therefore! whosoever knoweth well the workings of the irc demon and how to set it up let me know, for we shall have a plan b, and our plan b shall take over the earth!
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mircea_popescu: so end the glorious sunday pronouncements, join us next sunday for nude frolicking in the grass and fire spitting.
ThickAsThieves: praised be
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00062894 = 2.4843 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: someone should start a church of confusing form with function.
mircea_popescu: that's an easy sell if there ever was one.
hanbot: nice weight sortage
mircea_popescu: i guess the catholics also did pretty well on the score.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 506.85, Best ask: 507.54, Bid-ask spread: 0.69000, Last trade: 507.86, 24 hour volume: 5778.20961167, 24 hour low: 495.02, 24 hour high: 515.95, 24 hour vwap: 504.13191356
BingoBoingo: ;;parachute
gribble: Error: "parachute" is not a valid command.
BingoBoingo: !parachute
BingoBoingo: %parachute
asciilifeform: aha parachute!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: care to air out the dirt? why let the bastards suffer quietly ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know there's this pesky rule of nature that the more one speaks the less one knows.
mircea_popescu: this thing seems to hold true in the most perverse and unexpected of applications.
asciilifeform: aha sure
asciilifeform: but before i can offer a potential parachute - need to know threat model.
asciilifeform: gpg-gram if you like.
mircea_popescu: that's immaterial. the threat defense, however, will be an array of geographically distributed servers which someone will have to shepherd the ircd on.
mircea_popescu: you know, just like freenode, except with a helluva lot more moneyz.
mircea_popescu: aand problem solved.
mircea_popescu: ty for participating everyone :)
asciilifeform would still like to know who, approximately, is likely to bring approximately what kind of siege weapon to his gates before dusting off the box kept for this purpose.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's all social engineering. the nsa does not have any technical capbility worth the mention.
asciilifeform pictured 'complaint' wankers, rather than nsa
mircea_popescu: on one hand because it is actually very limited on th edirect, on the other hand because it is very affraid to use even the little it has lest a hb rehash.
asciilifeform: lamers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly. the fiat economy is predicated on the theory that value may be constructed out of a trillion promises that each on and of itself is worthless
mircea_popescu: and the fiat state is predicated on the theory that productive work may be extracted out of assemblages of a trillion shitheads that by and of themselves are wholly incapable.
mircea_popescu: even at the risk of driving down legitimate promises and capable people, the theory goes, this is still a worthwhile endeavour.
mircea_popescu: o look at that! buskers!
asciilifeform: where i live, a 'busker' is a fellow playing, e.g., accordion on a steet, begging for pennies
mircea_popescu: same dress n'est pass ? same look ?
mircea_popescu: same cool.
asciilifeform: approximately.
asciilifeform: the folks pictured are бурлаки. (yes, we had a separate name for this occupation.)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7152 @ 0.00063257 = 4.5241 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at any rate, what kind of machine is necessary, for what kind of load? just #b-a ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not a matter of the machines per se tho.
mircea_popescu: i mean not that more will hurt, when-and-if.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i have no report for today, been in bed best part of a week
mircea_popescu: cazalla new gf ?
cazalla: hardly, depressed more like it
asciilifeform: it's not a matter of the machines per se << of what, then ?
mircea_popescu: the guy to run the software package.
mircea_popescu: cazalla care to share with the group ?
cazalla: mircea_popescu, this pretty much http://pastebin.com/9sftKGAJ doctors say tldr
assbot: Head Area Tingling - on top of head, face, back of head, neck, shoulders, var - Pastebin.com
mircea_popescu: pinched nerve.
mircea_popescu: started with the tri, got the whole stack by now.
cazalla: i've had mri of neck, brain, cardiac ct, halter monitor, xrays, blood work, etc etc
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mircea_popescu: dja work out ?
cazalla: i use to
cazalla: so that's why i sometimes stay in bed for a week or 2 and just sleep the depression off
mircea_popescu: go work out. none of that high performance gym shit tho, this isn't to perform, this is to relax. ride a horse. swim. something sane.
mircea_popescu: fuck, for that matter, quite legitimate.
asciilifeform while reading about modern irc daemonology, learned that founder of freenode died of having-problems in '06.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, spring is due here so i'm going to do laps once it warms up a little
asciilifeform: (and he was publicly smeared in various ways, e.g. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/01/29/buy_a_piece_of_net)
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pretty much yes.
mircea_popescu: cazalla you're not supposed to sit, but that's a splendid idea : pole dancing.
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pete_dushenski: off to a celebration dinner, just leaving this year.
pete_dushenski: night all!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to be perfectly fair, the guy wasn't keeping his finances in the best of orders (according to you know, the criteria required so you don't get called "a cult leader" by teh cult leadership). nevertheless, nothing nearly as bad as what the childfucker jimbo wales did in his day
pete_dushenski: s/year/here omfg
mircea_popescu: ironically, the very guy the entire clampdown on the internets exist to protect the internets for
mircea_popescu: gets to run a piece of shit "resource" that everyone pushes as if it were useful.
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2014 00:04:59; asciilifeform: pierce << ideal example of the animal described on one of mircea_popescu's essays - he could be packed into prison for life, any time, based on what's in his file. so he does as instructed.
mircea_popescu: obviously. but the convenience does not resolve the other angle. it's a ruinous association.
asciilifeform: example: pediwik page for nsa 'type a' - gone.
asciilifeform: perma-deleted.
mircea_popescu: "why do you hang out with these bums ?" "because they're the only people that call me a beauty queen", said the ambitious teenaged slut.
mircea_popescu: "well honey, that doesn't make them any less bums"
mircea_popescu: but yes, it's been for many decades now the established mo of the great "nation" of the united states : to grow an inch, cut an inch off the measuring tape.
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cazalla: mircea_popescu, i'm still interested in forum posting, didn't want you to think i was blowing it off even though that's what i've done this week, i'll bbl, week of logs to catch up on
mircea_popescu: cazalla no biggy. this is the fungible sort of work, it'll wait.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: the use of pliable folks: consider, what was vyacheslav molotov's main job qualification ?
asciilifeform: (answer: his wife. in gulag.)
mircea_popescu: but he still sucked.
mircea_popescu: you know ? putting some idiot's wife in the gulag doesn't make him suddenly smart.
asciilifeform: 'smart' wasn't the top objective, though.
asciilifeform: pederasty doesn't make herr wales smarter, either.
asciilifeform: or brock pierce
mircea_popescu: think of it : two major powers, with very close ideologies, the absolute leader of one in love with the absolute leader of the other, managed to go to war!
mircea_popescu: who's to blame ? inept ribentropp, inept molotov, chiefly.
mircea_popescu: if they worked together we'd be sitting here speaking german threatening doom to the third reich.
mircea_popescu: so, what's the gulag got stalin ? a pliable idiot.
mircea_popescu: what's that cost him ? the great patriotic war.
mircea_popescu: millions of country boys had to be assembled in the choir invisible to rectify the mistakes of two inept diplomats.
asciilifeform isn't suggesting that the pliable idiot stratagem is a brilliant one that everyone should imitate - just pointing out its age.
mircea_popescu: its age, indeed. two hundred years old and change.
mircea_popescu: i think balzac is the first to describe it. some small sleepy country town somewhere, with two printing licenses
mircea_popescu: the owner of one figuring it's better to keep the other in the hands of its current inept owner than let him lose it.
mircea_popescu: or, if you prefer, de retz has some mentions in his memoirs, to the same principle.
mircea_popescu: when i see that name change i salivate.
mircea_popescu: http://oglaf.com/buttocks/ << almond milk i'd go for.
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BingoBoingo: Almond milk is about the only way I find almonds palatable, the demon cyanide tasting seeds that they are.
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asciilifeform: http://oglaf.com/harrow << problems of rectothermodynamicists.
assbot: harrow
mircea_popescu: this isn't such a great thing for babies.
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRM7OZktALE << column of captive urks led through donetsk. water truck washes road after them, just like they did in the '44 parade after captured germans.
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mircea_popescu: ;;ud urk
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mircea_popescu: ;;ud ukrs
gribble: Google found nothing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why's the reporter so fucking excited lol
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asciilifeform: !s ancient ukrs
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mircea_popescu: you know words that don't even exist!
mircea_popescu: !up guest3455
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRM7OZktALE << column of captive urks led through donetsk. water truck washes road after them, just like they did in the '44 parade after captured germans. << I like the flack vest clearly labeled "Press"
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BingoBoingo: !up non2_
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually the ukrs started really calling themselves that in the '90s, when they wrote the hilarious schoolbooks about 'ancient ukrs, they fought rome!'
mircea_popescu: yeah i know. we had a bunch of crypto natl-socialist idiots in romania too.
asciilifeform: now it's SOP among the resistance.
mircea_popescu: i think even mentioned.
asciilifeform: we come from the ducks, who come from the trucks.
mircea_popescu: they taught the greeks magic and romans to write don;'t you know./
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asciilifeform: (from linked document)
asciilifeform: what's missing? plenty
asciilifeform: (what instrument? ion mobility spectrometer, clearly.)
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why the fuck windows.
asciilifeform: because!
BingoBoingo: !up josevelez
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: who's the fellow screaming at the crowd ?
asciilifeform guessed correctly
asciilifeform would love to buy a (yes) bowdlerized compendium of taleb, with all the annoying 'i'm the strongest man alive, grasp my throbbing cock!' crapola snipped out.
mircea_popescu: lol it bothers you ?
asciilifeform: it pattern-matches 'derp' and throws my concentration
mircea_popescu: kinda makes me chuckle privately.
mircea_popescu: guy's what, 60 by now ?
mircea_popescu: what's he going to do if say a bn chicks actually decide to go for it ?
asciilifeform: if i saw a mosquito for the first and only time, i'd probably laugh at it too
mircea_popescu: not like he has an elaborate sorting system in place.
mircea_popescu: he's setting himself up for catastrophic rewind.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol, you read Kvant ?!?!
mircea_popescu: i had THE COLLECTION.
mircea_popescu: who do you think you're talking to here.
asciilifeform has the collection
mircea_popescu: !ip Kieronbm
mircea_popescu: admittedly i couldn't really do the exercises
mircea_popescu: but i enjoyed looking at the pictures.
asciilifeform has a blast with bedtime reading of 'квант,' 'химия и жизнь,' 'наука и жизнь', etc. for ages now. who said '4k' tablets had no use.
asciilifeform: phun phact. 'прикладная химия' 1941 (forget which month) was devoted to recipes for... meth.
mircea_popescu: "theoretical physicists calculate the imaginary part of schroedinger function collapses for various items in their room and then convert it all to matrix form to go to sleep"
asciilifeform: (leningrad, during blockade, reportedly churned out 10kg/day.)
mircea_popescu: most serious bunkers include some.
asciilifeform: even today.
mircea_popescu: lol even today., well yes even today, what's changed ?
asciilifeform: 'morals' lol
mircea_popescu: no they haven't lol.
BingoBoingo: Well now there's options like methylphenidate, modafinil, and all sorts of other imposters
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: military men, afaik, are noted for a love of 'classic' tech
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if the soldier can only carry one pill, what modern replacement psychostimulator would suffice ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The germans had a pill...
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'pervitin' ? that was ordinary 'meth'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/01/29/buy_a_piece_of_net << this is a great read btw, because look! look how desolate the field was, just ten short years ago,
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mircea_popescu: back when we didn't have money.
mircea_popescu: and i don't mean some money, or even a lot of money.
mircea_popescu: i mean THE money.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm thinking of the one that rolled the meth together with an opiate, and maybe a few other things
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: why would you include an opiate ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because pure amphetamine is undiscriminatory.
mircea_popescu: ever had an itch /
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asciilifeform: undiscriminatory ?
BingoBoingo: The itching, and fatigue... injury..
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> undiscriminatory ? << Hits receptors without much regard for location in the body
asciilifeform: how does an opiate help here?
mircea_popescu: if well chosen the opiate is more selective.
mircea_popescu: at least that's the theory.
BingoBoingo: Including just enough for some analgesia masks side effects of the amphetamine activating all kinds of catecholamine receptors it wasn't intended to
BingoBoingo: Supposedly
BingoBoingo: The recreational term I think is "speedballing"
asciilifeform: 'At first the members of the punishment battalion whistled and sang songs. [But] most of them had collapsed after the first 24 hours.'
assbot: -
decimation: I think methamphetamines are still prescribed for military pilots who need to 'remain alert' for days at a time
decimation: asciilifeform: "it pattern-matches 'derp' and throws my concentration" << yeah I have the same experience.
mircea_popescu: decimation they're self prescribed by doctors working the us meatgrinder for sure.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> asciilifeform: "it pattern-matches 'derp' and throws my concentration" << yeah I have the same experience. << does this happen with my stuff too ?
ThickAsThieves: cazalla, is it fibromyalgia?
ThickAsThieves: my dad has it
ThickAsThieves: sounds like uit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not so much
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves wasn't that for girls ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your stuff typically includes sufficient meth to drown out the opium.
ThickAsThieves: it's for people who beat up their bodies and are susceptible to it, i'm guessing
ThickAsThieves: dad has owned a masonry company most of his life
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mircea_popescu: no look at that, i was actually right. 10% or so men.
mircea_popescu: looks like genetic on that basis. you gotta be really unlucky as a guy
ThickAsThieves: didnt know that
ThickAsThieves: i never met someone else with uit
ThickAsThieves: though i wouldbnt be surprised if it's in me too
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cause i was thinking, i prolly do more of it than poor taleb.
mircea_popescu: who, notably, has a lot more grounds than me to be all "fu world y u don't respek!"
ThickAsThieves: i think i heard pot helps with fibro
ThickAsThieves: havent gotten pops to try yet
ThickAsThieves: he's still busy breaking his back
mircea_popescu: wasn't this the poster for medical pot ? it helps fibromyalgia ?
asciilifeform: perhaps the next pill, 'D-X,' will be a meth and thc combo
ThickAsThieves: i was never a pot activist
ThickAsThieves: though i like it just fine
asciilifeform: are there meth activists ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes. they scrub things clean.
mircea_popescu: ;;google look at me, busy as a bee
ThickAsThieves: meth had it's own acclaimed tv show, it's doing fine
decimation: mircea_popescu: you have a different writing style. you don't set off the 'derp' alarm, you set off the 'wait, wtf is he on about' alarm, which generally results in an interpretation excercise
asciilifeform: surely someone is campaigning to have meth brought back to the masses.
mircea_popescu: decimation so taleb's mistake is that he's being a BANAL asshole ?
ThickAsThieves: there are the guys that think all drugs should be legal
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves there are guys that thing all ages should be legal.
mircea_popescu: no shortage of guys.
asciilifeform: busy as a bee << funny that they show an idiot sow scrubbing, and not, e.g, paul erdos crapping out theorems
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's valid. a) erdos doesn't get his guidance from youtube ; b) most people taking it will scrub.
decimation: mircea_popescu: yeah there's banality and there's also constant generalization. I realize he's trying to write generally, but it comes close to old-man ranting
mircea_popescu: it's part of that undiscrimination mentioned earlier. it seems to particularly empower any ocd streak you may have.
mircea_popescu: just like acid isn't a good adjuvant to latent paranoia.
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mircea_popescu: decimation people got hacked lately with this "only the general is important" rootkit. it meshes well with the divinsation of data-in-se
mircea_popescu: because somehow they've decided "data" is a substance, it's no longer fit for the thinking man to generate data, and so no more of things like the excellent field reports people like saussure and levi-strauss dedicated their lives to
mircea_popescu: so now all one can still do with his mind is "generalize"
mircea_popescu: on the basis of the holy data, as such.
decimation: to me, if one is going to improve on the "only in general" then one is going to have to better than Kant, Kierkegaard, Spinoza, Leibniz, etc.
asciilifeform most people taking it will scrub << wonders what kind of 'public education' films will be made about, e.g., logic analyzers, when these are banned
mircea_popescu: decimation the point is valid, there's relatively little useful stuff these singers/songwriters can do.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you actually dispute this ?
decimation: "on the basis of holy data" << oglaf's princeling is searching for holy data to generalize upon as well :)
asciilifeform: re: mexican drug ballads: obligatory: http://www.malavita.com/diemusik_en.html
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mircea_popescu: somehow it's conveniently forgotten that einstein's general revolution was based on laboratory data
mircea_popescu: THAT WAS MOSTLY NOT ACCEPTED AS DATA at the time.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i believe it. most people - will, likely - scrub.
decimation: so was maxwell's brilliant analysis
mircea_popescu: the establishment had a different set of data.
mircea_popescu: decimation exactly.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not saying this is grounds to make anything legal or illegal, obviously.
mircea_popescu: but i don't believe you'll ever be able to run a place where drugs (the actual sort) are legal, for purely economic reasons.
asciilifeform: gedankenexperiment time. go to your workbench, pick some precious, rare, instrument - and contemplate what 'most people' would do with it.
asciilifeform: enough to give you insomnia.
asciilifeform: economic reasons >> so long as the slaves get the right kind of marching powder (i.e., with the requisite proportion of meth to opium) - what economic reasons ?
mircea_popescu: exactly those.
mircea_popescu: you presume to know who the slaves are.
mircea_popescu: how would you ?
asciilifeform: presumably - the folks queueing up for the marching powder ?
mircea_popescu: but whether it's legal or illegal doesn't decide whether they queue up for it
mircea_popescu: instead, it decides if you may force them to take it.
asciilifeform: aha the olympics thread
asciilifeform: 'if you can, you must' ?
mircea_popescu: exactly. making conception illegal for young women is fundamental if you want an educated set of women
mircea_popescu: because if it's not illegal, they'll all get impregnated aged 16
mircea_popescu: the most curious one the first and foremost
mircea_popescu: and curiosity is a cognate of intelligence. especially in women
decimation: asciilifeform: "rare instrument" << I'm imagining a spectrum analyzer providing light for reading :(
mircea_popescu: decimation i bet you he had this microscope nails thing in his head.
asciilifeform: or this:
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decimation: asciilifeform: lol I'm not sure that old crt o-scope could be put to much better use
asciilifeform is quite partial to crt scope, except on occasion of travel
BingoBoingo: "Next, Golubic contacted Sony/BMG Latin, one of the few American labels that produces narcocorridos,and the label offered one of its up-and-coming acts, Les Cuates deSinaloa."
decimation: asciilifeform: I would agree that nothing quite replaces that "temporary storage" of phosphor fading slowly
asciilifeform: [insert obligatory bitching about ADC quantization artifacts here]
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decimation: asciilifeform: yeah most folks don't realize the limitations of adc's, especially when it comes to dynamic range issues
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asciilifeform lolz, owns that board
decimation: the xilinx board?
asciilifeform: that one.
asciilifeform: (among others)
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decimation: apparently this guy wrote most of the RTL: http://www.batslyadams.com/
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