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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5318 @ 0.00079547 = 4.2303 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: hola amigos
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: ya, ver's a derp
bitcoinpete: dogecoin jebus
assbot: Here's a video of me begging /nntaleb to join /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash-assets : NSFW"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00079544 = 7.2385 BTC [-]
[]bot: Bet placed: 3.01233529 BTC for No on "World Cup top scorer to net > 7" Odds: 14(Y):86(N) by coin, 36(Y):64(N) by weight. Total bet: 20.20780078 BTC. Current weight: 9,565.
benkay: <mircea_popescu> << check it out benkay, he's like 2 ahead of you. plus he has a jewfro. // psh you missed my 'fro
benkay: !s 30 minutes of fame
benkay: surely there've been more.
benkay: plus bitcoinpete how many o' dem you takin' home, eh?
bitcoinpete: benkay: well, all
bitcoinpete: it ain't cheatin'...
assbot: Preschool tuition in Manhattan: up to $40,000Preschool admissions coaching: up to $35,000
bitcoinpete: dat inflation
bitcoinpete: "Preschool admissions coaching: up to $35,000"
benkay: <mircea_popescu> enky whay is your strat so broken! // what strat my only strat is to acquire bitcoins
benkay: bitcoinpete: i don't even believe you.
benkay: butts or gtfo
benkay: grrr transaction fees
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15945 @ 0.00079544 = 12.6833 BTC [-]
benkay: how about you fix this retarded change address shitshow
benkay: what the fuck are these expiring backups, goatfuckers?
bitcoinpete: expiring backups nao?
mircea_popescu: benkay ENKY not you mate.
mircea_popescu: what is this, fursecution cmplex ?
benkay: do you know it took me two days of explaining how badly you've fucked up this thing to my partner for him to grok what you'd done?
benkay: i got mah tails in a twizt
assbot: Here's a video of me begging /nntaleb to join /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash-assets : NSFW"
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell sexysaffron hey, when's the last time you got 2k retweets ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
benkay: bitcoinpete: w/ some versions of bitcoinqt, you get a new addr for change from each previous txn
bitcoinpete: benkay: what versions that be?
benkay: your wallet backup from this POS 'software' only records 100 addrs
benkay: uh, halps team?
benkay: bitcoinpete asks gud question about bitcoin versions
benkay: best answer really is to just compile 0.6 from source, make run and send to an addr under 0.6 control.
mircea_popescu: pre .7.x iirc
benkay: just avoid whole derpage.
benkay: okay so mp ams bless 0.6 it sounds like
benkay: o hej big nooz
bitcoinpete: ur gay?
benkay: get stufft
benkay: we ams rent office
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell decimation yeah blame stan.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
benkay: oh scuse me
benkay: 'office'
benkay: more like desk and 2 cans
bitcoinpete: lol how much you payin? that's the question on everyone's cost conscious mind
benkay: 600 when alls said and done
benkay: list is 575 but i gotta strongarm some bitches into hiring other bitches to clean the kitchen
mircea_popescu: preschool admission ?! what the fuck is that ?
mircea_popescu: <benkay> what the fuck are these expiring backups, goatfuckers? << this has always been a thing with bitcoin.
bitcoinpete: benkay: gotta have dat clean kitchen
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: preschool is pre-daycare
mircea_popescu: so this is now performance-based somehow ?!
bitcoinpete: hey, if you can spend $75k on a nanny, why not a daycare
bitcoinpete: it's privilege based, kinda like everything else
mircea_popescu: but i mean what, kid can fail daycare entrance exam ?
mircea_popescu: how ? no oral sex skillz ?
bitcoinpete: when there's limited spots, it's a highest bidder sort of affair
bitcoinpete: it's all on the parents
mircea_popescu: "sorry ma'am, your kid doesn't know how to dance and masturbate for the webcam
mircea_popescu: and her customer service is crap
bitcoinpete: they who pump tires hardest win
mircea_popescu: just take her home"
bitcoinpete: "your boy has exceedingly low self-confidence for someone whose dad is cfo of goldman sachs"
benkay: dude mircea_popescu you srsly don't grok us preskewl scam?
benkay: bitcoinpete: i see your bs and raise you a butt
assbot: Unsee — Free online private photo sharing
benkay: wat
benkay: shitty free online services
mircea_popescu: i don't, no.
assbot: Unsee — Free online private photo sharing
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete how does self confidence inherit lol
benkay: well look you see to get into good kawlidge one must have not just good grades but good grades from 'good' hs
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete but anyway, the ACTUAL questions of import is, omgwtfbbq, who are the hot bods you take pics with.
benkay: to do 'good' hs, one must do 'good' ms, or excel in some way to jump to reel fancy hs.
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: wait… you only get inherited shit from your parents nao?
benkay: good 'ms', ibid, etc to preskewl.
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: haha i'll pass along your kind regards
bitcoinpete: at least one of them knows who you are
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete what, confidence is not something you can gift people lol. they gotta do shit.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete are they like the Hawt sisters ?
bitcoinpete: ;;google the hawt sisters
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bitcoinpete: well that was surprisingly useless
mircea_popescu: 't overthing it, the hawt sisters are just these blondy sisters that are hawt.
bitcoinpete: the blondies were classmates
bitcoinpete: the brunette's the sister
bitcoinpete: MINDFUCK!
mircea_popescu: brainpretzel
mircea_popescu: well, bring the lot when you come to the conference
mircea_popescu: i'll get you a quadruple room somehow.
bitcoinpete: shweet
bitcoinpete: i'll pass along the invite and get some calendars cleared
mircea_popescu: bp is going to be the pimpiest pimp in BA.
benkay: <sexysaffron> // oh god you did this to me
assbot: Dropbox - 203.mp4
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: funny cuz i don't even think much of having those 3 hanging off my arm
bitcoinpete: must be a sign
mircea_popescu: sweet innocence, slaughtered in b-a
mircea_popescu: benkay hm ?
benkay: have you even watched it?!
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: so nao that i'm feelin all pimpin', you gonna rate bp or what?
bitcoinpete: how long do i have to blog and irc to get some love around here
mircea_popescu: ;;rated bitcoinpete
gribble: You have not yet rated user bitcoinpete
mircea_popescu: ;;rate bitcoinpete 2 Pimp.
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
mircea_popescu: holy sheit.
benkay: scammer
assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( )
mircea_popescu: ;;rate bitcoinpete 2 Pimp.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user bitcoinpete has been recorded.
bitcoinpete: muchas gracias
mircea_popescu: benkay whatched what ?
benkay: the thing ms saffron did for taleb
mircea_popescu: anyway, that was all for tonight, see you all tomorro!
bitcoinpete: cheers!
assbot: "Ireland central bank official warns virtual currencies can challenge sovereignty of states"
[]bot: Bet placed: 8 BTC for No on "World Cup top scorer to net > 7" Odds: 10(Y):90(N) by coin, 31(Y):69(N) by weight. Total bet: 28.20780078 BTC. Current weight: 9,444.
kyuupichan: Anyone else getting satoshi spam? I've gotten 3 so far...
kyuupichan: It actually confirmed.
bitcoinpete: kyuupichan: weird. none on my end
kyuupichan: Each one a different txn. Here's one.
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 574d77eb277974ca1000b154023940c3e366d5bf4dd06b7fe3b0d92eea54e0c7
kyuupichan: That block had at least 3 of them. 974KB block! Largest I've seen I think. Wonder why stupid miner decided to include that.
bitcoinpete: maybe the miner sent it
kyuupichan: A spam block if ever there was one. Wonder if it's some agency trying to link addresses.
kyuupichan: Only economic way to spend that shit is to include it with sthg else
kyuupichan: ~700K of that block is satoshi spam
bitcoinpete: ;;rate mircea_popescu 2 mpex rabbi
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mircea_popescu has changed from 1 to 2.
assbot: Autopsy of America: Photos of dead shopping malls - Jun. 30, 2014
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40950 @ 0.00079176 = 32.4226 BTC [-] {3}
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.02 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 3906.32 GH/s
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 444324.95 in 1590 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -43.41
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7661 @ 0.00079108 = 6.0605 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40100 @ 0.00079016 = 31.6854 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49722 @ 0.00078787 = 39.1745 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41050 @ 0.00078678 = 32.2973 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45850 @ 0.00078909 = 36.1798 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31350 @ 0.00078971 = 24.7574 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56000 @ 0.00079299 = 44.4074 BTC [+] {2}
davout: ola
assbot: French Officials Seize $272,800 From Illegal Bitcoin Exchange
davout: fluffypony: someone hasn't been reading teh lawgs :3
fluffypony: must've missed that
davout: hehe, i was wondering yesterday whether it was dotcoin or not
davout: not that much info
fluffypony: yeah not enough info
fluffypony: besides bitcoinbourse, who else could it be?
assbot: Arrestation franaise lie au bitcoin - CryptoCoinsNews
davout: i don't really know, some stuff matches with bitcoinbourse, some other stuff not, first of all they said the website was put offline, and bitcoinbourse seems to be up
fluffypony: is down for maintenance, but that could also be coincidental
pankkake: it was down yesterday too
assbot: Wannabe Startup CEOs Hate This Guy: One Easy Way To Raise $45,000+ You Won't Believe The Register
fluffypony: 'Tech investors are stunned by the amount of cash that has flooded into Brown's project. "This is no flavor of the month type scheme – I'm long on potatoes and you should be as well," one financial industry source didn't tell us.'
davout: pankkake might be them then
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00078971 = 21.875 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26094 @ 0.0007936 = 20.7082 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Goat by Cameron Little — Kickstarter
assbot: Big Awesome Burrito by Kurtis Walsh — Kickstarter
assbot: I Want To Make Ice Cream. by J — Kickstarter
assbot: Fried Rice by Bud Hennekes — Kickstarter
punkman: fluffypony, I think kickstarter just gave up trying to moderate anything
fluffypony: that's hilarious
punkman: dozens of "I want to find the perfect recipe for X" projects
punkman: "pay me to eat steak"
fluffypony: frikkin lame
pankkake: it's the altpotatoasalad
assbot: Coleslaw by Danny Willford — Kickstarter
assbot: Coleslaw by Gary Howard — Kickstarter
pankkake: so many hipster faces :/
punkman: fluffypony: you should kickstart that
fluffypony: kickstarted is the new bitcointalk securities sub-forum.
fluffypony: *starter
punkman: nah
ThickAsThieves: ;;later tell mike_c - Is behaving as desired now?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pankkake: I like that everbody has their drink
pankkake: has address
pankkake: Host not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
pankkake: Host not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
pankkake: but perhaps mike_c only needs to start his server
ThickAsThieves: possibly
ThickAsThieves: shouldnt/couldnt i just host the nodes at the same domain?
pankkake: you need to run software, I don't think your hosting provides that
ThickAsThieves: i have another server i totall control, but it has clients on it
ThickAsThieves: til end of the year
ThickAsThieves: not sure if that matters
fluffypony: the software won't interfere with that
fluffypony: all it does is check that the peers its connected to are legit and active, and then it updates the A record
fluffypony: need sushi, bbl
assbot: How One Law Firm is Helping Bitcoin Startups Find Success
ThickAsThieves: lists all the bitcoin biz that got funding
ThickAsThieves: *notable* funding
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33792 @ 0.00079311 = 26.8008 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: kGoal Smart Kegel Trainer by Minna Life — Kickstarter
assbot: Kegelcizer - The Infosphere, the Futurama Wiki
pankkake: lol, I didn't remember that one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10171 @ 0.0007953 = 8.089 BTC [+]
benkay: <fluffypony> the software won't interfere with that // running cryptocurrency stuff on client boxes?
ThickAsThieves: i decided it a bad idea, aside from security, it's a managed services box, so i'll just end up closing the account in December anyway
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.0007953 = 14.8721 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 618.78, Best ask: 621.88, Bid-ask spread: 3.10000, Last trade: 621.88, 24 hour volume: 4570.83662792, 24 hour low: 612.9, 24 hour high: 630.0, 24 hour vwap: 620.10935941
ThickAsThieves: something funny about a supposed ISIS blog being hosted at and using google fonts
mircea_popescu: lol why ?
ThickAsThieves: well first it's funny for conspiracy theorist reasons
mircea_popescu: obviously
ThickAsThieves: in English, using english stuff etc
ThickAsThieves: then it's funy that google is helping ISIS CSS look nice
mircea_popescu: wait. you mean it's funny proceeding on the theory that it is ACTUALLY what it says ?
mircea_popescu: dude come on, it's the internet. all of it is fake.
ThickAsThieves: it's funny either way is what i'm saying
mircea_popescu: what, google seditiously halping the enemy is funny ?
mircea_popescu: that is unfunny, son!
ThickAsThieves: it's like my opinion man
mircea_popescu: flag burning belljeans wearing potheads!
mircea_popescu: get off my lawn!
ThickAsThieves: we call em bellbottoms
mircea_popescu: actually the internet's fucking cursed to be funny. for instance :
assbot: Boston Truth Revealed - Imgur
mircea_popescu: fucking hysterical if you ask me.
pankkake: perhaps we should start our own terrorist group
mircea_popescu: aren't you a late pankkake
pankkake: and I can't take out of my mind that ISIS is the spy agency of Archer
pankkake: no, but about something worth fighting for, not that God or independence crap
pankkake: for now my project is terrorists for Firefly season 2
mircea_popescu: da fuck's worth fighting for.
mircea_popescu: women and booze.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.0007953 = 22.1889 BTC [+]
chetty: ISIS is fighting for womens, sexual jihad (no booze tho allah doesn't like that)
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c the "Only send Bitcoin" type warnings should prolly have a red triangle rather than the current gray thing
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: chetty remember that dude in egypt that was trying to steal you ?
mircea_popescu: he came up with booze alright.
pankkake: I'm all for enslaving the womyns, but why put bed sheets on them?
mircea_popescu: pankkake maybe they dislike tans. and wtf is this enlsaving the womnys thing
pankkake: hm, true, I like white skin
chetty: haha I had blessedly forgotten that
pankkake: I am pretty much a djihadist already
pankkake: bitcoin, beard
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: << o look at that, someone's been reading trilema
assbot: "Ireland central bank official warns virtual currencies can challenge sovereignty of states"
mircea_popescu: two fucking years late. like the last n times.
ThickAsThieves: yay NFLX pump failed
mircea_popescu: no plural. THE virtual currency. no past tense. IS challenging sovereignity of states. not some either, all of them. and has been, for a fucking while.
mircea_popescu: now what.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves were you short ?
mircea_popescu: o not covering huh ?
ThickAsThieves: nope, still some time before earnings
mircea_popescu: wow look at that, someone's mining 25kb txn for 0.0001 btc in fees.
mircea_popescu: kyuupichan definitely new one.
davout: "wow look at that, someone's mining 25kb txn for 0.0001 btc in fees." <<< such storage DOS
mircea_popescu: this may become a fucking issue, incidentally. the guy gets paid 6 cents for everyone else to have to permanently store 1mb
mircea_popescu: i think people don't quite correctly evaluate the cost of running a node yet.
mircea_popescu: best sex changer wtf is this
mike_c: ThickAsThieves: it looks like it is working to me
davout: interestingly enough i don't see this discussed anywhere
pankkake: this will make the "low fees" crowd head spin
mircea_popescu: davout who'd know enough about it ? "teh french community" ?
davout: no, i mean to me it's the only thing that to date remains unsolved, yet there isn't really much discussion about it
mircea_popescu: "For what it's worth, the median annual wage in Ohio is $46,093."
mircea_popescu: fluffypony look at that shit. they make 4k a year now. houses are supposedly selling for 8 month's median wage in ohio.
davout: i read a couple things about migrations to a model where only a rolling window of blocks need to be kept which is quite interesting
fluffypony: what did I miss?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony just processing the potato sald link
mircea_popescu: want more mayo ?
ThickAsThieves: mike_c awesome, thx - now to find someone to update the wallet...
mircea_popescu: davout for all its disadvantages something like that doesn't seem avoidable.
fluffypony: ah yes
mircea_popescu: !up mois
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fluffypony: hah hah
davout: lol
fluffypony: someone just gave the best definition of mongodb
fluffypony: [16:33:14] @todor: Mongo is eventually. maybe. consistent
fluffypony: [16:33:20] @todor: with some data loss
fluffypony: [16:33:26] @todor: (but you'll never know)
fluffypony: [16:34:00] @todor: it's a troll database basically
mircea_popescu: he has a point.
pankkake: not the first time I see that definition
davout: "it works really well with php where you're never really sure about what is equal to something else"
fluffypony: I'm calling it a "troll database" from now on
fluffypony: "works really well with floats for financial values"
davout: i'm calling the =:D= the trollquality operator, coming in php 8
mircea_popescu: what is this meme where manboobs think "floats" somehow are "financial values"
pankkake: I thought we settled on 8==B
mircea_popescu: pankkake that's a different one
davout: pankkake: no that's the peñor size comparator
mircea_popescu: =:D= != 8==D
davout: "=:D= != 8==D" <<< maybe
mircea_popescu: in all cases unless mouth full.
davout: you are on a big endian system? god help you
fluffypony: hah hah
mircea_popescu: someone should make cocksucker (abbreviated C*). the logo is a woman with a penis in mouth.
mircea_popescu: the language consists of moans
mircea_popescu: ahh can be for and oh can be if
mircea_popescu: ahh baby your cock is so big oh stack pop it.
pankkake: gags for stack overflows?
mircea_popescu: definitely.
davout: ICantSeeAnymoreException raised
chetty: but you cant do that, its homophobic
mircea_popescu: and overloaded functions come without saying. they're called nigger functions
mircea_popescu: chetty why is it homophobig ? faggots moan too ?
chetty: well anything fun is phobic something
davout: i fucking love ruby : "CAUTION: Use of this library is discouraged, because this implementation was meant to be experimental but somehow got into the 1.9 series without being noticed. Please use OpenSSL::HMAC in the “openssl” library instead."
pankkake: you're not using ruby 2.0? isn't 1.9 so last year?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: frikkin lame pankkake: it's the altpotatoasalad << it is. and it IS fucking lame omfg.
davout: you are absolutely right, i
davout: i wtf'd reading this :D
mircea_popescu: davout is a fail hipster, still on 1.9
mircea_popescu: !up jamesdean-afk
davout: mircea_popescu: hipsters do node, real hipsters do go
fluffypony: don't forget about redis
pankkake: redis works well for its intended purpose
rithm: real men do it in assembly
davout: rithm: real men do it in the vagina
rithm: 64K of ram ought to be enough
pankkake: real men do it in every hole
fluffypony: all of the holes!
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> redis works well for its intended purpose << o no we detect a puckering butthole?
rithm: for the glory!
mircea_popescu: rithm real men don't code dawg. real men just tell unreal men how to get realer.
rithm: that's real talk
ThickAsThieves: heh, one of the exchanges finally added Altcoin to it's voting area
assbot: Coin voting / hitbtc
mircea_popescu: as real as angelina's boobs.
assbot: El Gobierno pidi ayuda a EEUU para identificar a los usuarios de Twitter que apoyan a Campagnoli | Jos Mara Campagnoli - Infobae
mircea_popescu: check out this epic shit.
mircea_popescu: mthreat ^
fluffypony: oh wow, the twitterers are even mentioned there
fluffypony: famouze
mircea_popescu: total trollage, the argentines are gonna end up with a trolface on their fglag
mthreat: angelinas boobs?
mthreat: oh infobae article
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: a j boobs used to be epic.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: just in case more f.derp listings are in order << i don't get it, you want me to list a law firm ?!
assbot: How One Law Firm is Helping Bitcoin Startups Find Success
mircea_popescu: o shit i forgot coinbase didn't i. herp.
ThickAsThieves: nah, the article is mostly about startups and the money they got
mircea_popescu: Coinbase has managed to secure $25m in series B funding led by Silicon Valley-based venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz. This brings the total amount raised by the company to $31.9m.
mircea_popescu: The firm, which describes itself as an “international digital wallet that allows you to securely buy, use, and accept bitcoin currency”, is going from strength to strength, with an estimated 600,000 people now using its wallet service, up from 200,000 in August.
ThickAsThieves: do better!
mircea_popescu: coolness.
mthreat: xapo news on techcrunch.. 20m funding
fluffypony: and yet they still don't have their card partner sorted?
ThickAsThieves: I'd buy some F.VAURUM probly
ThickAsThieves: the rest, meh
ThickAsThieves: i'd short kraken too
ThickAsThieves: fuckin useless
mircea_popescu: too low rly.
ThickAsThieves: i had someone re-explain our copper conversation, and now i get it
ThickAsThieves: the issue was i was really asking in the interest of gold, so i wasnt quite seeing how thered be lack of speculative demand
ThickAsThieves: but copper is not gold
davout: ThickAsThieves: why would you short kraken?
ThickAsThieves: I think they dont 'get it'
ThickAsThieves: one thing that drives me crazy is how they price in the orderbook
ThickAsThieves: look at, say, the NMC pricing
assbot: Kraken | Buy and Sell Bitcoins
davout: bitcoinpete: such amaze
davout: ThickAsThieves: they price it the same way they price USD relative to BTC, how would you do it ?
ThickAsThieves: like every other exchange
ThickAsThieves: how many btc one nmc is worth
ThickAsThieves: .0028BTC
ThickAsThieves: that should be how it's priced on NMC/BTC market
davout: hm, that's the opposite of what all exchanges do when it comes to quote fiat vs btc
mircea_popescu: davout since when is "all other" an argument ?
davout: mircea_popescu: when did i start arguing?
mircea_popescu: well he said they don't get it and you seemed to disagree
ThickAsThieves: he seems concerned to me
ThickAsThieves: interested
davout: mircea_popescu: i'm in the process of collecting facts that comes before building a considered opinion :-)
ThickAsThieves: maybe he knows/likes kraken people/things
mircea_popescu: anyway, i won't add kraken anyway, not because they're smart or anything, but whatever, it seems like it'd be more like publicity for them than anything
ThickAsThieves: the software and branding are decent
ThickAsThieves: name is maybe a lil weird for it
ThickAsThieves: but acceptible
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ThickAsThieves: layout of trading tools is not as intuitive as other sites
ThickAsThieves: pricing just kills it for me
ThickAsThieves: such a stupid little thing
ThickAsThieves: would make me punch a wall to have to accomodate it
ThickAsThieves: accommodate*
davout: ThickAsThieves: can you even trade there ?
davout: i thought they didn't accept muricans
ThickAsThieves: dunno, i havent used it for usd
davout: ah
davout: you do alts
ThickAsThieves: i deppsited some NMC and BTC and was gonna trade without withdrawing
ThickAsThieves: but then they wont let me USD
ThickAsThieves: and the NMC is all fukt priced
ThickAsThieves: so i never traded
ThickAsThieves: without withdrawing USD*
mircea_popescu: generally that site is pretty funny
bitcoinpete: ^urlprovements
mike_c: i think i'm getting paywalled. can't see it
assbot: Venture Scanner : Real-time coverage on emerging technology markets. : 3D Printing : Bitcoin : Digital Health : Connected Transportation : Future of TV
chetty: when does this game start?
assbot: Game 17 - Death 5000 Life 5000 Year 0 - War of Life
mircea_popescu: scroll down to where you're absent.
mike_c: chetty: (starts 310,523)
ThickAsThieves: mp, in ur post, maybe add AKA for CIPI and OKCO? since it isnt whole or obvious names?
ThickAsThieves: cant remember what CIPI was...
mircea_popescu: mike_c << one screen says 2.41 the other 2.0
assbot: Game 17 - Death 5000 Life 5000 Year 0 - War of Life
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves ty
chetty: mike_c, maybe I am dense but how does that relate to actual time? like hwere is it now?
mike_c: just saw that.. it's caching based on game year. will fix now.
mircea_popescu: chetty its by blocks
gribble: Error: "block" is not a valid command.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.75195818 BTC to 11`718 shares, 14951 satoshi per share
bitcoinpete: "The ecology of the water body is not likely to be affected much and it will also reduce evaporation, thus helping preserve water levels during extreme summer. Solar panels installed on land, face reduction of yield as the ground heats up. When such panels are installed on a floating platform, the heating problem is solved to a great extent."
atcbot: [ %t | %ticker ] [ %ob | %book ] [ %d | %diff ] [ %tx <id> ] [ %bal <address> ] [ %m | %mined ] [ %b <height> | %block <height> ] [ %lb ] [ %tslb ] [ %p | %pool ] [ %cm ] [ %ptp ] [ %h | %help ]
assbot: Kolkata firm to help NHPC set up floating 50-mw solar power plant in Kerala - Economic Times
mircea_popescu: ;;blocks
gribble: 309795
mircea_popescu: ;;calc (310523 - 309795) / 360
gribble: 2.02222222222
mircea_popescu: in 2 hours and a little
mircea_popescu: ;;calc (310523 - 309795) / 6 / 24
gribble: 5.05555555556
mircea_popescu: in 5 days ?
chetty: thanks, the page could use a little more info it doesnt show current block
mircea_popescu: a that's a good point. mike_c ^
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete interesting concept
mircea_popescu: plus you don't have to bribe reid to kick out cowboys
mike_c: chetty: see the current game:
assbot: Game 16 - Death 5658 Life 4342 Year 272 - War of Life
mike_c: ^ Year 272 out of 1000
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: i can foresee problems in depriving aquatic environments with sunlight
mircea_popescu: obviously.
bitcoinpete: hard to imagine much could survive underneath those panels
mircea_popescu: yes, it sucks to try and live in any place where technology.
mike_c: are you suggesting I show the current BTC block for games that haven't started yet? i can do that.
bitcoinpete: lol without too
ThickAsThieves: there are probly things that will thrive under the panels too
bitcoinpete: or on top of
bitcoinpete: they'll be landing areas for birds
ThickAsThieves: theyll have a cleaner surely
bitcoinpete: growth substrates for mosses
mircea_popescu: mike_c yeah current block on all chains shuld be displayed somewhere
mircea_popescu: !up PoUpA
ThickAsThieves: WoL could generally use a lil more handholding
bitcoinpete: ThickAsThieves: what a fucking project that'll be
mircea_popescu: like if btc is loaded, display btc current block
ThickAsThieves: like (?) icons with pop-up explanations
mike_c: ThickAsThieves: agreed.
mircea_popescu: btw anyone hating mike's css ? cause DUN SEE NO MOTHERFUCKING ROUNDED CORNERS
mircea_popescu: the whole logo's a rhomboid!
mircea_popescu: or does it only grate if the square corners are in the corners.
PoUpA: Hi, thanks for the voice lol didn't expected that
chetty: looks fine to me, but them I like mpex too
mircea_popescu: yw. who're you ?
PoUpA: nobody lol
ThickAsThieves: i like the WoL logo, like a nerdy yinyang
ThickAsThieves: also contains pacman
ThickAsThieves: and stealth bomber
ThickAsThieves: cant lose
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete sadly the odds of tlp actually seeing that video are nil, because a) he hasn't approved the comment on his blog still. a bunch of fucktards made > 50 comments since then with their fucktardery. if i were him i wouldn't ever read the comments on that blog, i'd rather read coindesk.
mircea_popescu: and b) i bet you nobody's bothered to send him an email to point it out, he prolly doesn't read his twitter (or his email for that matter)
mircea_popescu: or in otherwords : being dumb and deaf keeps one from interacting with the coolness in this world. and the world can't cure it for him.
bitcoinpete: we can always wait until he does a book signing and have someone show up with a logged-in laptop
bitcoinpete: sorta like suggestion 3 for taleb
bitcoinpete: tlp will publish eventually
bitcoinpete: and his publisher will surely have him do a public appearance or two
mircea_popescu: what am i, an abused sicilian wife ?
mircea_popescu: life selects. he was smart enough, but he couldn't hear. there's no difference between the deaf and the dumb.
bitcoinpete: the video is your one and only olive branch then?
mircea_popescu: im not including tlp in the next set for lack of a means to get in touch.
bitcoinpete: fair enough, taleb is more public
bitcoinpete: "If at first you don't succeed try, try and try again."
bitcoinpete: unless it's a terrible idea
bitcoinpete: which this isn't
ThickAsThieves: well i didnt see the shorter video, but there may also be a communication gap
mircea_popescu: how could it be, girls get paid to have fun
mircea_popescu: whether these derps get something out of it or not is really secondary, and entirely up to them
ThickAsThieves: well if TLP watches the vid, does he get any clue of why he might wanna visit #b-a, or what it is?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves he gets a clue an entity exists that is powerful enough and informed enough
ThickAsThieves: or is it just we're wild n crazy guys that hire camwhores, cmon by!
mircea_popescu: like suppose i send cia's shadow ops director a buquet of n roses on the day he forgot to send his wife the n number as he should have.
mircea_popescu: if guy has any sense he dismantles the entire thing that same day. they've failed.
ThickAsThieves: fair enough
ThickAsThieves: i'd have researched
mircea_popescu: not like bitcoin-assets isn't first hit on google.
mircea_popescu: wiki and even a phone number.
bitcoinpete: so if you send taleb the dead sea scrolls to his house with a hand-written card asking him to hit dat webchat
bitcoinpete: then we have something
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete i'd burn them and send him a youtube of that.
bitcoinpete: not sure the guy watches that much youtube
ThickAsThieves: just send him a large box marked ANTFRAGILE - HANDLE WITHOUT CARE
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, years ago i used to say that one of my goals once i'm rich is to make pilaf
mircea_popescu: out of those chinese rice things with emperors painted on them
ThickAsThieves: kickstarter ahoy!
ThickAsThieves: Make a Pilaf With Mircea
mircea_popescu: "eat priceless treasures of tang antiquity"
bitcoinpete: ;;google rice pilaf with mircea
mircea_popescu: then shit in a bag and put it in a permanent display at the tate.
bitcoinpete: mm sticky buns
bitcoinpete: ya that's an idea
ThickAsThieves: thatd be a dun kickstarter theme, funding destruction of historical objects
ThickAsThieves: Buy Nazi Memorobilia and Burn It
bitcoinpete: people rarely need to be paid to do that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49400 @ 0.0007896 = 39.0062 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: memorabilia*
chetty: ThickAsThieves, just give to ISIS, or the Taliban they got that down
mircea_popescu: burning nazi shit won't piss people off.
ThickAsThieves: well thats where you start
ThickAsThieves: you leave the ironic ones for next round
mircea_popescu: lol metascam
mircea_popescu: first, establish trust
mircea_popescu: then, burn the consitution.
ThickAsThieves: maybe you hate Warhol art, start buying it up and shitting on it, then sell that art
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete re 3, i could have strippers crash all his public events. the thing is... that's hostile not friendly.
chetty: <mircea_popescu> then, burn the consitution.//obama beat you to it
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: myeah. taleb isn't the most sexually inclined type
bitcoinpete: he's 50+
bitcoinpete: got a kid, divorced
bitcoinpete: now he just reads and does math
ThickAsThieves: i doubt that
chetty: <bitcoinpete> he's 50+// whats that supposed to mean?
ThickAsThieves: he seems to care about his health, i bet he's steady pimpin
mircea_popescu: chetty people stop fucking at 49. haven't you heard ?
bitcoinpete: lol he probably gets off my role playing as chess pieces
bitcoinpete: *by role playing
chetty: <mircea_popescu> chetty people stop fucking at 49. haven't you heard ?//do tell
bitcoinpete: ok so 50+ people fuck and i'm sure taleb isn't immune to babes
bitcoinpete: but you gotta treat the guy more like a foreign dignitary/president/royal that a blogger
bitcoinpete: cuz that's how he sees himself
bitcoinpete: "While it may seem foreign now, at the time, the concept of the person as an individual flew in the face of tradition. Questioning this perspective sowed the seeds of a new worldview where tradition and social hierarchy were displaced in favor of individual pursuits."
ThickAsThieves: ninja turtle mask drawn on business woman
bitcoinpete: "For sixteenth- and seventeenth-century nobles, everything rested on traditional order and familial continuity."
assbot: Bitcoin Startup Xapo Valued North of $100 Million - Digits - WSJ
ThickAsThieves: wences knows how to get dat funding
bitcoinpete: "Nobles explored alternatives to patriarchal ideology not because it was weakening in the seventeenth century but because its hold over them was so very strong. … Seventeenth-century aristocratic culture … placed contradictory demands on its participants, between, for instance, ideals of inheritance and of individual ambition. By the early eighteenth century, the weight of these contradictions had for many nobles become
bitcoinpete: intolerable. The more egalitarian ideologies of the eighteenth century, it may be suggested, offered resolution of contradictions that had become burdensome beyond endurance. From this vantage point, Louis XIV’s rise to power seems less a turning point than does his death."
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete so then they should snap up the VERY CHEAP mpex shares.
assbot: French Nobility And The Origins of Modern Culture
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: they ?
mircea_popescu: sorry i mean ThickAsThieves so then they should snap up the VERY CHEAP mpex shares.
bitcoinpete: << 11+ million userz
assbot: Pocket
bitcoinpete: basically cross-device bookmarking
bitcoinpete: premium subs for… $45/yr
bitcoinpete: hey Pierre_Rochard
mircea_popescu: 11 million free users, premium subs for 3.x a month, 580 paid users.
mircea_popescu: average paid user lifetime, 2.5 months
mircea_popescu: actual userbase revenue, ~0.
bitcoinpete: sounds right
bitcoinpete: sounds vc-funded
ThickAsThieves: maybe feedly will buy them and yahoo can buy it all
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76130 @ 0.00079099 = 60.2181 BTC [+] {2}
bitcoinpete: ;;ident Pierre_Rochard
gribble: Nick 'Pierre_Rochard', with hostmask 'Pierre_Rochard!~Pierre@', is identified as user 'Pierre_Rochard', with GPG key id E416CE33F64FCA5E, key fingerprint 3861EADB8E3A62CFD751E70BE416CE33F64FCA5E, and bitcoin address None
bitcoinpete: ;;gettrust Pierre_Rochard
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Pierre_Rochard!~Pierre@ Trust relationship from user bitcoinpete to user Pierre_Rochard: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Sun Jun 1 10:18:50 2014
Pierre_Rochard: re: taleb, if the point hasn’t already been made, isn’t the noble’s retinue paid? If you want a scholar in your court, you may have to bribe him
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.0007935 = 15.4733 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: Pierre_Rochard: he'd be pricey
ThickAsThieves: also could attempt contact via mgmt
bitcoinpete: he has what he likes to call "fuck you money"
ThickAsThieves: he might have a filter
asciilifeform: RIP xapo ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00079514 = 20.3556 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard guy's rich.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what, already ?!
assbot: More Than 50 People Were Shot In Chicago Over The Holiday Weekend : The Two-Way : NPR
ThickAsThieves: The Purge: Chicago
mircea_popescu: luckily there was no armed suspect on the loose, like in the case of the boston marathon bomber.
mircea_popescu: otherwise chicago could have gotten pretty ugly.
mircea_popescu: or wait. this wasn't a case of "secret agent ran off from secret service, MUST be found. also send a message to any other agents looking to defect : we will declare martial law to find you, and we don't care if it's boston"
ThickAsThieves: shoulda stayed in corporate espionage
mircea_popescu: pays better.
mircea_popescu: "Nearly all, the Chicago Sun-Times notes, were black or Hispanic men age 35 or younger."
mircea_popescu: alternative explanation. chechens are still white.
mircea_popescu: as much as the russians would beg to differ.
assbot: Forgotten vials of smallpox found in storage room - Yahoo News
rithm: immunizations cause autism
fluffypony: rithm: penises cause babies
rithm: not by themselves
rithm: but science has proven that vaccines alone cause autism
chetty: science also claims to prove global warming
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5326 @ 0.00079099 = 4.2128 BTC [-]
benkay: <mircea_popescu> or wait. this wasn't a case of "secret agent ran off from secret service, MUST be found. also send a message to any other agents looking to defect : we will declare martial law to find you, and we don't care if it's boston" // waaaaat
bitstein: ;;later tell bitcoinpete 120 hours a week and they still can't get their servers to stay up.
assbot: Heard from an /blockchain employee "I just wouldn't know what I would do with myself if I wasn't working 120 hours a week." Love this team
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mike_c: nobody works 120 hours a week. that is retarded.
mike_c: "i wouldn't know what to do with myself if I couldn't bench press 500 pounds"
mike_c: i'll tell you what to do. stfu, crawl in a corner, and die.
bitstein: Even if they did, I don't find it admirable in the least.
benkay: sleep more, work out, get better work done during the 30.
mike_c: if my engineers were working 120 hours a week I would be saying "we're fucked. what happened? how did we plan so poorly?"
mike_c: not acting like a tough guy on twitter.
benkay: americans can't manage - story at eleven
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32650 @ 0.00079154 = 25.8438 BTC [+]
assbot: New Law Brings Russia One Step Closer to a 'Closed Internet' - The Wire
assbot: The Greatest PorcFest Ever Stolen - Daily Anarchist
danielpbarron: "My total losses are 8.37266084 BTC, which were my earnings from PorcFest, 0.12237595 BTC, which were the BEARCAT Defense Fund, and 0.26952621 BTC, which had been raised for the Authoritarian Sociopathy project."
rithm: lol
benkay: oh, poor davi.
benkay: his pins are really great.
benkay: integer btc. :(
chetty: actually events like this are a good thing, makes people more aware/more careful about security
benkay: yup.
benkay: still, i take no joy in his misfortune.
punkman: chetty, but this is the conclusion everyone seems to arrive at: "Two factor authentication is your friend. Don’t put it off."
punkman: no amount of snake oil will heal that gaping head wound
benkay: blockchain will even help attackers get around 2fa
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23322 @ 0.00079099 = 18.4475 BTC [-]
chetty: !up indiancandy1
benkay: look who's back
FabianB: $traded
empyex: FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MG S.MPOE S.NSA X.EUR
fluffypony: back again
indiancandy1: TITS FOR BITCOIN?
punkman: indiancandy1: you want to see my tits?
indiancandy1: i want 2 show u myne
indiancandy1: ine xchange
indiancandy1: for moneys
fluffypony: mircea_popescu has instructionz
fluffypony: so Klye is "Giving up gambling as well as smoking cigarettes and drinking.. Trying to make a lifestyle change in order speed up my repayment and regain some honour."
mthreat: and brazil plays ze germans
assbot: Mt. Gox CEO to Auction, Share Proceeds with Creditors
ThickAsThieves: “We are hoping, with the sale of, to provide some relief to the people impacted by the Mt. Gox bankruptcy and will be putting at least half of the sale amount toward that purpose.”
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00079091 = 18.3491 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Bitcoin's longest running scam lists fake shares of Bitpay. : Bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: weird that link is bold in my mirc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00079006 = 6.281 BTC [-]
assbot: The Tale of CoinJelly - Coin Fire
ThickAsThieves: small bitblog factchecks while bigger names run with false info
assbot: Sonny Vleisides (Butterfly Labs CEO) 2014 Court Transcript [The TL/DR version]
pankkake: longest-running scam. I guess that's pretty good by Bitcoin standards
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.75195818 BTC to 11`718 shares, 14951 satoshi per share
cazalla: sweet brazilian tears
benkay: wasn't there a bitcoin version of this somewhere?
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
assbot: BitBet - Brazil beats Germany :: 0.33 B (41%) on Yes, 0.47 B (59%) on No | closing in 3 hours 31 minutes | weight: 14`537 (100`000 to 10`000)
kyuupichan: So much for Brazil
pankkake: it's a bet your tx is confirmed within 15min basically
kyuupichan: Brazil put up the local school team
mthreat: this means argentina will play ze germans
mthreat: if they win tomorrow
pankkake: so, riots?
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: these comments on the reddit post are gold
chetty: streets in ba should be nice and quiet while they play
thestringpuller: top comment: "He's offering a derivative with bitpay as the underlying. These are not bitpay shares."
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Brazil beats Germany" Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 41(Y):59(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.91972244 BTC. Current weight: 14,423.
pankkake: hey, it's valid!
pankkake: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 309821 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 642 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 23 hours, 6 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16867978245.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.29442
artifexd: It would appear that my assessment of the Germany-Brazil game was a little off...
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
kyuupichan: Damn another block makes it
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.33 BTC for No on "Brazil beats Germany" Odds: 8(Y):92(N) by coin, 28(Y):72(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.11918977 BTC. Current weight: 14,271.
ThickAsThieves: newegg sells plants? weird
ThickAsThieves: dang they sell all kindsa shit
kyuupichan: Half time
kyuupichan: What happens to bets during half time?
cazalla: refunded i would guess
ThickAsThieves: they are donated to Ross Ulbricht
kyuupichan: Had Muller gotten more than 1 of the goals, the "scorer > 7" bet would suddenly get very interesting
cazalla: there is still time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.00079006 = 15.6827 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00079144 = 11.555 BTC [+]
assbot: WasWoWieviel +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
kyuupichan: No blocks during half time so I guess it didn't matter
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23535 @ 0.00078886 = 18.5658 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10985 @ 0.00078818 = 8.6582 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 49 @ 0.0135 = 0.6615 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47750 @ 0.00078584 = 37.5239 BTC [-] {3}
pankkake: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 33 minutes and 11 seconds
FabianB: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00078551 / 0.00079161 / 0.00079785 (1205540 shares, 954.32 BTC), 7D: 0.00078551 / 0.00080677 / 0.00083016 (5577760 shares, 4,499.97 BTC), 30D: 0.00077312 / 0.00082135 / 0.00087778 (26095912 shares, 21,433.95 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 41 @ 0.01705 = 0.6991 BTC [-]
[]bot: Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Brazil beats Germany" Odds: 3(Y):97(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 11.11868977 BTC. Current weight: 13,489.
[]bot: Bet placed: 4.9995 BTC for No on "Brazil beats Germany" Odds: 3(Y):97(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 11.11868977 BTC. Current weight: 13,489.
FabianB: guess they're late
pankkake: hahaha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44600 @ 0.00078551 = 35.0337 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: lol MPOE
thestringpuller: money is flowing out of it
thestringpuller: !ticker m D.BPAY
assbot: [MPEX:D.BPAY] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.23999999 / 0.24483091 / 0.25 (207 shares, 50.68 BTC)
punkman: these germans just can't stop
benkay: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00078551 / 0.00079139 / 0.00079785 (1250140 shares, 989.35 BTC), 7D: 0.00078551 / 0.0008065 / 0.00083016 (5587301 shares, 4,506.20 BTC), 30D: 0.00077312 / 0.00082127 / 0.00087778 (26130099 shares, 21,460.13 BTC)
kakobrekla: <assbot> WasWoWieviel +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 < and nobody dared to voice him eh ?
jurov: kakobrekla he did not wait
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 625.55, vol: 2671.31663899 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 618.998, vol: 2419.98972 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 625.1, vol: 2985.84647666 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 622.394812, vol: 4765.42400000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 617.03703, vol: 1.43869931 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 623.448174, vol: 37.2054963 | Volume-weighted last average: 623.04048175
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25729 @ 0.0007853 = 20.205 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: whoa brazil got massacred
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 121 @ 0.01634889 = 1.9782 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 120/7
gribble: 17.1428571429
mircea_popescu: orly. 17 hours and 10 minutes a day ?
mircea_popescu: mike_c: i'll tell you what to do. stfu, crawl in a corner, and die. << i take it you're not working 120 hours a week on wol ?
mircea_popescu: FOR SHAEM
mircea_popescu: !up Ginux
mircea_popescu: !up hello
mircea_popescu: !up los_pantalones
mircea_popescu: !up Menno
mircea_popescu: !up Quanttek
mircea_popescu: !up rodgort
mircea_popescu: !up toddf
mircea_popescu: punkman: no amount of snake oil will heal that gaping head wound < < sadly, this is true.
mircea_popescu: lol "Hint: The "D" in the ticker symbol stands for "derivative"."
mircea_popescu: yeah, because the DERPs header on the page is not indicative.
mircea_popescu: ;;unrate HoreaV
gribble: Successfully removed your rating for HoreaV.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54400 @ 0.00078386 = 42.642 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: "To give you some idea, at PorcFest last year our booth took in about 3 Bitcoin all week. At the time Bitcoin was about $100. This year I took in 3 Bitcoin the first day, when Bitcoin was about $600. By the end of the week we had earned over 8 Bitcoin for our various commercial and non-profit partners, which is a windfall I could hardly believe."
mircea_popescu: heh. mkay.
danielpbarron: turns out, I made more BTC at porcfest than the muslim agorist
kakobrekla: "We also collected some doge, but nobody was willing to steal those."
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i closed at the "i borrowed a clothesline"
mircea_popescu: i guess i just don't get bum culture.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla doge is like fiat, you don't have to have it stolen from you for it to be stolen from you.
danielpbarron: I saw that guy; didn't end up talking to him; he seemed kinda boring
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: mall bitblog factchecks while bigger names run with false info << who is this mike ?
danielpbarron: but it was pretty cool how he had child labor operation to sell his buttons
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves still got a tardstalk acct btw ?
mircea_popescu: "Q. The Monarch BPU was said to begin shipping at the end of 2013. Has that happened?
mircea_popescu: ahjahaha
mircea_popescu: o bfl is shipping. find out it's not from Bitbet in 2013, from the courts in 2014. le win.
mircea_popescu: !up indiancandy1
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 you've still not figured out this wot thing ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 52 @ 0.01431345 = 0.7443 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: artifexd: It would appear that my assessment of the Germany-Brazil game was a little off... << it happens :p
punkman: "Now, there is a stench coming from Butterfly Labs. It's a strong smell. It's not enough to send you to prison today"
mircea_popescu: punkman "Prison Today" sounds like a great replacement for Time mag.
mircea_popescu: if i were buffett, ie, in any way emotionally invested in the continuation of that republic, i'd definitely make it.
punkman: I can picture that
mircea_popescu: << yet another thing max keiser promises then fails to follow through
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'большая зона'
mircea_popescu: here's a business idea : take failed projects, trim down the text, make kickstarter projects out of them
mircea_popescu: one could start with say urbit
mircea_popescu: just hire indians to select and summarize, could pump out 50-100 science-y or tech-y sounding projects a week
asciilifeform: urbit already found its chumpatronium golden vein
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform done in the manner of the cryptostocks listing of that casino game tho
mircea_popescu: w/o any involvement from the owner.
mircea_popescu: just, google for projects with verbiage, trim it down, "kickstart" it
mircea_popescu: 10-20 hours's worth of unskilled labour per project.
mircea_popescu: no WAY you don't get 1mn in 100.
mircea_popescu: that's 50x your investment.
mircea_popescu: intel: man, probation officer asked vleisades if he'd let fbi agents tour his facility to "learn more about bitcoin".... pukeatronic <<< methinks that's a point.
mircea_popescu: waiting for bfl product delivery ? watch out for bonus goodies on the board from now on...
punkman: hah
asciilifeform wants one now
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not now. later/.
mircea_popescu: in 5 years you'll prolly be able to buy them for the cost of disposal.
mircea_popescu: buy a containerful, diagnose the full spectrum.
asciilifeform: at that point it will be worth about as much as those cars parked at Pripyat.
asciilifeform: archaeologists will find them.
mircea_popescu: you think ?
mircea_popescu: hey, maybe.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32450 @ 0.00078156 = 25.3616 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: of course on the other hand, if you're a honest bitcoin miner you got nothing to worry about.
indiancandy1: who wants to see my big tits
mircea_popescu: did you ever see saffron's vids ?
asciilifeform: a miner's a perfect place to hide some strange. esp. in the extant ones, where performance is 'variable' to put it mildly. but really, it is perfect on account of the fact that a miner board is forgotten very soon after it is sold
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 ^
asciilifeform: no one seriously cares what was in the fpga miners from 2 yrs. ago
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform definitely.
mircea_popescu: custom hardware by definition, who the hell is going to even know.
mircea_popescu: kinda trivial to find strange on high standardised stuff.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 88 @ 0.0144 = 1.2672 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 do you read stuff here ?
indiancandy1: i sent u a message
indiancandy1: what is this saffron vids
indiancandy1: i do read it
mircea_popescu: !s dropbox
indiancandy1: i duno what it is
mircea_popescu: hm klets see
indiancandy1: dropbox is safron?
mircea_popescu: !s from:sexysaffron*
assbot: 0 results for 'from:sexysaffron*' :
mircea_popescu: !s from:sexysaffron
assbot: 0 results for 'from:sexysaffron' :
mircea_popescu: ah come on.
mircea_popescu: !s from:sexysaffron dropb*
indiancandy1: i really want to get into bitcoin
indiancandy1: i read stuff
punkman: !s from:sexy_saffron dropbox*
indiancandy1: i dont understand none of it
mircea_popescu: should be two tho.
mircea_popescu: THIS FAILS.
indiancandy1: safron is dropbox
indiancandy1: and dropbx begs
assbot: Dropbox - 203.mp4
assbot: Dropbox - 202.mp4
mircea_popescu: !up indiancandy1
mircea_popescu: or i guess if you don't have the connection for heavy duty vids.
assbot: Here's a video of me begging /nntaleb to join /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash-assets : NSFW"
indiancandy1: is she ur slave girl
indiancandy1: shes ugly
indiancandy1: no offence
indiancandy1: i wouldnt eat her out
indiancandy1: i got more folowers
indiancandy1: on twitter
indiancandy1: by 9800
indiancandy1: not that it makes me any richer
mircea_popescu: ok, so ready to make a beg video ?
indiancandy1: ahaha if the indian media get hold of it though
indiancandy1: it wil be on times of india
mircea_popescu: you'll be famous
indiancandy1: website
mircea_popescu: pubicity is publicity.
indiancandy1: my agents wont be happy
indiancandy1: how much u offering for it
mircea_popescu: fire them, hire better ones.
indiancandy1: i can get u
mircea_popescu: same i did her, provided your vid doesn't suck.
indiancandy1: lots of ppl as i got a big following
indiancandy1: she got 168 twitter followrs
indiancandy1: i have
ThickAsThieves: <+indiancandy1> no offence /// lol
mircea_popescu: it really makes little diff, if you notice that tweet got like 2.2k retrweets.
indiancandy1: how much did give her
asciilifeform: time for gedankenexperiment. what payload would be 'useful' in a miner core (vs. the controller, which is normally a standard micro and relatively simple to audit) ?
indiancandy1: did u give her
indiancandy1: listen i can get u a better deal
asciilifeform: i say: patterned outages.
indiancandy1: il give u publicity
indiancandy1: in india
indiancandy1: on all top digital platforms
indiancandy1: in india not many ppl no about btc
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves: mall bitblog factchecks while bigger names run with false info << who is this mike ? //// dunno, that blog was also fairly on top of all the SR auction updates. guy's not afraid to pick up a phone or something
indiancandy1: so it wil be good especially if it goes on times of india / yahooo
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves got his phone number ?
indiancandy1: why dont we introduce
indiancandy1: bitcoin 2 india il do u a pr campain
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves still got a tardstalk acct btw ? /// it exists, sometimes i check on my watchlist or click in thru reddit, otherwise i dont go there
asciilifeform: if you can arrange for, say, the entire crop of 'bfl' units to spin their wheels fruitlessly during known time intervals, your own miners (presumably exempt) can be scheduled to run then and precisely then
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 what difference does it make ? i want the guy to join here, i don't care about a bunch of indians that have no bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a gps ?
indiancandy1: they can buy
ThickAsThieves: "Coin Fire was started because I got sick and tired of reading reviews on sites that were full of advertisements, dishonest statements and news that was just posted to create link bait."
assbot: (CoinFireBlog) auf Twitter
ThickAsThieves: i dont have his ph# and his website only has contact forms
indiancandy1: tell me how much moneys u gave safron
mircea_popescu: anyone with a btctalk acct : pls to pm;u=112431 and invite him to come here. his summary of vleisides was useful.
assbot: View the profile of colinistheman
mircea_popescu: !up qwe213zxc
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves how do you know he's not affraid to pick up the phone then ?
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 .1
asciilifeform: gps < difficult - but not impossible - to fit. and what'd be the point? throttle the core unless standing in warehouse XX?
ThickAsThieves: i meant check his facts, dig for info
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just know where to confiscate it from.
mircea_popescu: or not let it be exported, mysteriously.
mircea_popescu: making the miners stop is useless economically.
indiancandy1: i duno btc
indiancandy1: what is that in dollars
mircea_popescu: !up lil_data_
ThickAsThieves: is email
asciilifeform: if you can stop all miners but yours - for a given interval - you can plunder blocks at far below the expected energy cost
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 i have no idea, whatever whoever is normally buying them from you pays for a bitcoin, divided by 10
ThickAsThieves: coinjelly asks for private chat with him , hehe
assbot: The tale of /CoinJelly, false statements and journalistic failures:
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so ?
mircea_popescu: diff is stil the same, how do you think this helps you ? longer blocks ?
ThickAsThieves: would need to hold it for a month
indiancandy1: .1 bitcoin
indiancandy1: 1 bitcoin
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1 / .1
asciilifeform: point wouldn't be to drop the diff, but to ensure that next block goes to one of yours
asciilifeform: alternatively
mircea_popescu: "ensure"
asciilifeform: throttle far below full capacity unless magic signal is present
indiancandy1: ur offering me 65 dollars
indiancandy1: for that vid
mircea_popescu: people would notice and fix it
indiancandy1: thats funn
indiancandy1: 2 less money
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 welcome to the world of hard work.
asciilifeform: so, e.g., everybody gets x hash/sec, you get 2x
indiancandy1: do u work hard?
mircea_popescu: you're not me.
mike_c: if you're not working 120 hours/week you're lazy.
indiancandy1: i work on a tv show
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 120 * .1 * 52
gribble: 624
asciilifeform: people would notice, fix << i know a fellow with a 'jupiter' miner. most of the time, only a subset of the cores run. fix is nowhere to be seen.
mircea_popescu: that's almost enough to invest in bitcoin start-ups
indiancandy1: gribble says 624 is that the conversion
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i never heard of a jupiter run 100%
asciilifeform: precisely.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 623.16, Best ask: 625.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.84000, Last trade: 624.97, 24 hour volume: 2675.59845636, 24 hour low: 616.89, 24 hour high: 626.22, 24 hour vwap: 621.952540785
asciilifeform: can be accident, or 'accident'
mircea_popescu: eh get out
indiancandy1: one second
mircea_popescu: jupiters are made with an axe
indiancandy1: is it 624 dollars
ThickAsThieves: i heard jupiters have anthrax in them
mircea_popescu: derpiters
asciilifeform: intel's been doing precisely this in cpus since '486 dx' - why not other people?
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 no woman. the chick did two vids for like 60 bux each. it's what she does.
mike_c: can anybody recommend an irc bouncer.
indiancandy1: shes better of doin mfc she can earn more money
BingoBoingo: lol, indiancandy1 you forget the time value of money
ThickAsThieves: and the value of relationships
kakobrekla: mike_c znc
mike_c: thx
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 what's mfc ?
BingoBoingo: myfreecams
BingoBoingo: I know it because... porn
mircea_popescu: so i take it the free part is scam ?
ThickAsThieves: i assume
mircea_popescu: is chatroulette still a thing ?
BingoBoingo: chatroulette was basically just dicks
ThickAsThieves: the site everyone visits once
indiancandy1: chatroulete now has a verification method so not many people use it
indiancandy1: you have to register with ur cell phone number and they send u a code on sms and
mircea_popescu: lol know your masturbator us congress legislation ?
indiancandy1: thats how you enter its to keep the pedos out
mircea_popescu: pedos can't get cellphones ?
indiancandy1: they was a overflow of pedofiles lurking for lil girls
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: use cell, leave gps ping.
indiancandy1: there was a big ring of pedofiles on there
mircea_popescu: now that's a disruptive service someone should do. decentralize sms identification.
mircea_popescu: like tor, but for sms.
asciilifeform: (technically not simply gps, but tower triangulation on top)
BingoBoingo: I thought most cellphones did a mix of the two
indiancandy1: well then f you get in trouble ad u call the cops and they need 2 find u how wil they find u
indiancandy1: its good and bad
asciilifeform: all current cell chipsets use gps+tower
BingoBoingo: I thought if you got into trouble you called the Bondsman because the cops were there
assbot: Dollar-Backed Digital Currency Aims to Fix Bitcoins Volatility Dilemma - MoneyBeat - WSJ
ThickAsThieves: brought to you by Brock Pierce
indiancandy1: i mean like if a girls being raped or something then it comes handy
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> I thought if you got into trouble you called the Bondsman because the cops were there << not everyone is from chicago.
BingoBoingo: You still call the Bondsman, because they actually "solve the problem"
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that guy really gets things.
mircea_popescu: up his ass.
ThickAsThieves: Realcoin
asciilifeform: pierce << ideal example of the animal described on one of mircea_popescu's essays - he could be packed into prison for life, any time, based on what's in his file. so he does as instructed.
assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( )
ThickAsThieves: "Founded by Brock Pierce, a former Disney child actor who is now a prolific bitcoin investor" ouch
assbot: Political Protest Or Just Blowing Smoke? Anti-Environmentalists Are Now 'Rolling Coal'
punkman: "the first dollar-backed digital currency"
ThickAsThieves: and biggest!
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves notice that's sorta started to go away ?
ThickAsThieves: "Realcoin will use a Bitcoin 2.0 software protocol known as Mastercoin" the pain!
punkman: it's not even dollars, "To ensure realcoins retain their value at one dollar, the firm will maintain a real-time record of its dollar-based reserves, all held in conservative investments"
indiancandy1: so do you think i should invest in btc
ThickAsThieves: "Asked about such a reaction, Realcoin founder Mr. Pierce said, “I’m not selling any of my bitcoins. "
ThickAsThieves: these people
ThickAsThieves: no one told them the onion was a joke?
indiancandy1: it gets me angry that i dont understand what ur talking about but i think
indiancandy1: im addicted to this place i have no reason to be here so why am i here
mircea_popescu: bitcoin 2.0 protocol mastercoin ?!
mircea_popescu: someone got indigestion.
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 well, you've found the real world and now are trying to convince yourself you don't have to change to adapt to it.
Duffer1: it's worth your time to hang around
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Duffer1: !up indiancandy1
decimation: re: "anti-environmentalists" << a true anti-environmentalist would construct a chumpatron to bleed environmentalist chumps
assbot: Solar Roadways | Indiegogo
asciilifeform: decimation: this is SOP already
asciilifeform: solar farms, windmills, etc.
asciilifeform: and anything else with -EV
decimation: "imma make you environmental technology, email me monies"
indiancandy1: duffer its worth my time
decimation: I suspect it's quite simple to recruit a staff of chumps to maintain the public propaganda machine too
indiancandy1: okay well wil someone atleast teach me so i understand
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 what part don't you understand ?
decimation: In case no one has seen: << some dumbfuck stole a tesla model S, rammed a pole at ~100 mph, cut the car in half; it caught fire
assbot: The tragic, explosive crash of a stolen Tesla – Quartz
BingoBoingo: indiancandy1: Right now is the time for lingering reading and asking questions, understanding come later.
asciilifeform: countdown to the 'remote disable switch' advocates pushing their shit...
danielpbarron: !up colinistheman
colinistheman: Hi guys. I was invited to this chat. I posted the bitcointalk forum thread on Sonny Vleisides (BFL CEO)
mircea_popescu: hey there!
mircea_popescu: you did a nice job.
indiancandy1: i nearly had a heart attack
colinistheman: Thank you mircea_popescu
colinistheman: I got your message in that chat log
BingoBoingo: Hey colinistheman that was me sent the message. Love your BFL thread.
indiancandy1: my name is sofia vasiliadis
mircea_popescu: colinistheman what do you do for a living ?
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 no wai ?
indiancandy1: and i just scan read what colin said
indiancandy1: and i thought he said my name
mircea_popescu: that's some scammer guy named vleisides
indiancandy1: my heart sunk
colinistheman: I'm glad you found it helpful. I did too. A lot of good information in that court transcript.
colinistheman: I realized a lot of people wouldn't read through to find the best parts
colinistheman: mircea_popescu: By the way if you, or others want to join the class action lawsuit, it is here:
assbot: Butterfly Labs and BF Labs, Inc. Bitcoin Miners | Wood Law Firm
colinistheman: There are about 50 people already in on it
BingoBoingo: Well, mircea_popescu and kakobrekla 's BitBet was especially injurious to BFL last year
colinistheman: I am spreading the word
assbot: Preemptive strike, to have on hand for when Butterfly Labs gets hauled off to jail in corpore pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
BingoBoingo: ;;google BitBet BFL to deliver by February
gribble: BitBet - BFL will deliver ASIC devices before March 1st :: 791.29 B ...: <>; Vote: Do you think Butterfly Labs will deliver their ASICs this ...: <>; BitBet, November 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: < (1 more message)
assbot: BitBet - BFL will deliver ASIC devices before March 1st :: 791.29 B (47%) on Yes, 898.53 B (53%) on No | closed 1 year 4 months ago
colinistheman: A BFL court case in Italy that went to the supreme court? very nice
colinistheman: I haven't heard of that one
mircea_popescu: only tangentially related to bfl, via the sonny bo\y.
colinistheman: mircea_popescu: to answer your question, I run
mircea_popescu: colinistheman get in the wot will you ?
colinistheman: Oh, you wrote that :)
mircea_popescu: hm, who's into knives ?
colinistheman: a lot of people apparently
asciilifeform: re: bfl - the sad part is that the entire mining industry, afaik, is based on exactly this kind of chumpatron. and if outright take-money-and-run merits two years of parole, what does, e.g. six month deliberate 'we mine with your hardware' merit? harsh words?
colinistheman: Did you join in the woods law firm court case?
colinistheman: Actually I do not believe they are mining with our hardware. I have been following fairly closely on what is going on
colinistheman: It's very bad management and underfunded development
colinistheman: that's the out-ethics behind the scenes which is making everything late
colinistheman: the court case statements back that up
mircea_popescu: colinistheman things change over time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14702 @ 0.00078407 = 11.5274 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: bfl has been a foundation backed sore eye for bitcoin since 2012
colinistheman: Perhaps in the past they mined with the hardware though
colinistheman: I would believe it
colinistheman: yes, BFL is the ASIC equivalent of MT GOX
colinistheman: it needs to be eliminated
asciilifeform: 'limited' scam always metastatizes into full blown scam.
mircea_popescu: so practically, get in the wot so i can gift someone a knife.
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> wow. /// simple GS strat, spend $120k on a Tesla, short TSLA, crash it. Works every time!
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves konspiraci ?
ThickAsThieves: i was counting on it!
BingoBoingo: Knives are cool.
colinistheman: I don't sell the BTC either. It's kept in BTC form
ThickAsThieves: but really there were 2 crashes and the other had most of a family die i think
colinistheman: unlike most bitpay merchants
colinistheman: I'm reading your article. Very interesting
ThickAsThieves: a plastic surgeon rear-ended a toyota
colinistheman: mircea_popescu: You had stated that my summary was useful. I'm very glad. May I ask how it assisted you?
mircea_popescu: colinistheman me personally it did not, i have people whose job it is to do these things. your summary however was quite close to mine, which is the mark of achievement.
assbot: - Colt Knives Pocket Knife Titanium 420HC High Carbon CT341 Camping Fishing Hunter
colinistheman: Most excellent. Yeah, I'm fairly literate and have a few brain cells to knock together
colinistheman: Thank you I will have to fix that ASAP
BingoBoingo: Hmmm... None of your product page links seem to be working for me...
ThickAsThieves: mp's plot to hide the andreas murder weapon
assbot: Index of /products
mircea_popescu: they all seem broken ?
ThickAsThieves: doesnt work for me much
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 16871343199.9 based on data since last change | 17660844532.9 based on data for last three days
colinistheman: Oh wow, they're temporarily down. I re-upped the site recently.
mircea_popescu: !up site
colinistheman: try now
colinistheman: I think I just fixed up
colinistheman: One missing file can cause a lot of probs :)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo would you like one ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sure
mircea_popescu: fluffypony how about i gift you a knife ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo pick something
assbot: - 5-1/4in Knife Making Blade Mini Hunter Blank Custom Game Hunting Blanks Knives
assbot: - Colt Knives Pocket Knife Titanium 420HC High Carbon CT341 Camping Fishing Hunter
cazalla: indiancandy1: i would bet sexysaffron would do 100 times better than you on mfc
mircea_popescu: colinistheman how come everything's 5 bitcents ?!
colinistheman: I just have it round to the nearest 2 decimal places for sake of neatness
mircea_popescu: for that matter, bitpay says "If it seems like there should be something here, please let us know by contacting our support team."
colinistheman: otherwise it looks like a huge big number
kakobrekla: because they are all sized for keychains
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla do you like knives ?
kakobrekla: nah not really.
colinistheman: You can sort by price and see items which are more than 5 bit cents. Back to reading the article
colinistheman: beep me if needed
asciilifeform: !up indiancandy1
kakobrekla: i have a few of those swiss army knifes i got as gifts and they satisfy all my cutting needs
mircea_popescu: cazalla who're you gonna bet against lol.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla lmao
indiancandy1: please dont bet me
indiancandy1: i do pretty well on mfc
indiancandy1: im better looking
asciilifeform: mfc << microshit foundation class?!
punkman: cam contest?
BingoBoingo: !up indiancandy1
dub: i cut stuff
indiancandy1: it just craches on me
indiancandy1: crashed
mircea_popescu: dub ya but you're a global warming alarmist
indiancandy1: unless she goes further then me i dont use toys
cazalla: indiancandy1: looks don't have much to do with mfc imo
indiancandy1: and hardly show pussy either
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 im sure she does anything.
colinistheman: By the way, this may interest you, mircea_popescu. I posted the following information on BFL's forum and it got deleted. It was a detailed recording of a series of events in the Monarch production timeline. This post got deleted from their forums but I kept a backup because I knew it would. Then I was banned from the forums after providing a lawyer link to every member on BFL forums.
assbot: BFL Late Monarch and How to Handle it. Josh, as COO, I request your reply to this.
indiancandy1: im anti sex toys
mircea_popescu: colinistheman maybe time to make a blog ?
mircea_popescu: or maybe join an existing one. possibly mike_c may want a hard hitting research editor for btcalpha
colinistheman: It's a good idea but I don't have the time. I managed to scrap together these few things.
colinistheman: I think there would be a good market for a promoted domain and blog for BFL fraud info though.
mircea_popescu: use it or lose it.
kakobrekla: who are you trying to save?
kakobrekla: jesus has been saved already.
colinistheman: oh, then bfl customers
mike_c: if you do want a blog platform I'd be happy to post things for you on btcalpha with appropriate attribution.
kakobrekla: right.
BingoBoingo: No, Jesus died to save, but if you save Jesus... it would really mess with the Xtians
kakobrekla: you can rape them with evidence, they dont budge.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla fudster.
kakobrekla: i meant saved as in ctrl-s
colinistheman: True, but it increases awareness like my bitcointalk thread post did. it got over 2000 views in 5 hours
colinistheman: And I bet I got a lot more people to join the class action lawsuit
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: can't help but remember orlov's point about the deer hunt
colinistheman: so I am pleased with that increased awareness and action
asciilifeform: '…we need a word that describes the artifacts generated in response to irrational actors who demand to be fooled. As the old saying goes, “A fool and his money are soon parted” – at the fool’s own insistence, no less! If the deer comes out of the forest and walks up to the hunter, it is not proper hunting, and this is not proper con artistry or grift or embezzlement or any other term we use to describe
asciilifeform: proper works of evil. If the victim, at the sight of the economic predator, goes into doggie submission, we must stop discussing the phenomenon in terms of conflict and consider whether what we are observing might be some strange instance of symbiosis.'
kakobrekla: well, colinistheman , deer cant read.
cazalla: indiancandy1: if you are more attractive than sexysaffron, you'd make more money on mfc if you copied her enthusiasm
colinistheman: deer bought asics?
BingoBoingo: !up colinistheman
colinistheman: why it demotes my talking ability lol
kakobrekla: you are not worthy yet.
mircea_popescu: because you're not in the wot
mircea_popescu: the wotrty.
colinistheman: Oh, i'm learning fast though
colinistheman: my wottiness is increasing
kakobrekla: so, hows the deer?
mircea_popescu: lol how do you figure ?
colinistheman: because I'm pretty badass. The wottiness is inherent really
mircea_popescu: this is without a doubt the weirdest reaction to a wot mention.
kakobrekla: !drown colinistheman
colinistheman: Are you a writer or journalist?
mircea_popescu: kako ? he's just a cookie monster.
indiancandy1: enthusiasm for?
indiancandy1: what using sex toys
mircea_popescu: colinistheman im bitcoin's only actual billionaire.
TheNewDeal: satoshi?
kakobrekla: satoshi lost the keys.
colinistheman: 2nd billiionare i suppose then
mircea_popescu: well satoshi is virtual :D
colinistheman: have you bought bfl hardware?
cazalla: indiancandy1: to please
colinistheman: good job
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 the world belongs to the eager&willing
mircea_popescu: colinistheman there';s a whole world of scams i didn't buy into. but anyway.
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust kakobrekla
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mircea_popescu: that's the wot. bitcoin's web of trust
mircea_popescu: until you register with gribble you won't be getting any.
colinistheman: That's good. In bitcoin scams are ripe for the picking
indiancandy1: but im saying u no sex toys stretch out ur pussy and im not into having a lose pussy for money
indiancandy1: i would everrrr trade that
indiancandy1: its all about tight
colinistheman: Is this your site:
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 they come in sizes no ?
indiancandy1: i dont like the idea of rapeing myself
indiancandy1: id rather wank to be fair
indiancandy1: but not in public
indiancandy1: im 2 shy
colinistheman: to be a bitcoin billionaire, one would require over 1.6 million btc
colinistheman: That is more than satoshi owns, no?
mircea_popescu: colinistheman well at some point btc was 1.2k
colinistheman: ah, i see
colinistheman: well then it would be about 800,000 btc+
mircea_popescu: something like tha
colinistheman: that's kind of like the emperor of bitcoin status
mircea_popescu: mostly paper anyway.
kakobrekla: dun worry its all virtual!
colinistheman: yeah, paper wallets.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla your running is too slo :D
asciilifeform: colinistheman: interesting site. what does one sharpen a titanium knife with ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cuntanium. obviously.
colinistheman: a regular sharpening stone
colinistheman: fine grit
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo picked anything yet ?
asciilifeform looks for unobtainium blade
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asciilifeform remembers the japanese folktale of 'the wooden wakizashi'
colinistheman: I've got 6 of those behind me lol
colinistheman: (the boker trapper)
mircea_popescu: paging fluffypony. hey f, lay off teh womenz and irc more!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't recall that one ?
asciilifeform: goes something like this. one samurai had the misfortune of breaking his wakizashi (short sword - 'sidearm.') but he was a cheapskate.
asciilifeform: replaced the blade with a wooden one.
asciilifeform: 'no one will notice.'
asciilifeform: a year passes; two
asciilifeform: then comes the time when he is ordered to perform seppuku.
asciilifeform: and all he's got - is a wooden knife.
BingoBoingo: Seppuku by splinter?
BingoBoingo: !up ericmuyser
colinistheman: From what I gather, sonny vleisides, carried on the scam of his father. Your article seems to touch upon this. "I came to know my real father only as an adult. So when I got the opportunity to know him better, I was eager and curious. His name was James Ray Houston:
asciilifeform: he seppukued.
asciilifeform: but it was more of a bitch than usual.
asciilifeform: lesson - don't be an arse.
colinistheman: Yeah he is dead now
colinistheman: I used to blame BFL_Josh for the poor show at BFL. Well, I still do. But Sonny is the kingpin behind the scenes. That's the real meat and potatoes crime boss
mircea_popescu: well yes.
mircea_popescu: josh is just some derp
mircea_popescu: an offensive derp, but nonetheless.
colinistheman: josh is sonny's goon
colinistheman: every crime boss has their henchmen
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'la rumana' << is that a shitter?
colinistheman: Thank you for also spreading the word on BFL. I will continue to do what I can and I'm glad it helped in any way.
colinistheman: It was good to talk to you all but I will be on my way now. Good day to you gentlemen. And don't forget your arsenal of knives :P
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colinistheman: nice to meet you mircea.
indiancandy1: mircdea u have al that money shouldnt u be living in a exotic island
indiancandy1: with a bag of bitches
mircea_popescu: lol the dude just left ?!
mircea_popescu: what silliness is this!
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 who's to say i'm not ?
indiancandy1: oh mircea
indiancandy1: are you watching the argentina game?
BingoBoingo: Islands suck.
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 i watched the last 5 minutes of germany-brazil by accident
mircea_popescu: sat down in a cafe
BingoBoingo: indiancandy1: He can hear it and surmise how it is going
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo no actually they're not screaming atm
mircea_popescu: isn't argentina tomorrow ?
TheNewDeal: yes it is
TheNewDeal: don't you have a decent bet on argentina ?
indiancandy1: im so happy germany won
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And you know that because people are doing their jobs atm
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal sure. gotta support the team
indiancandy1: do u speak spanish mircea
TheNewDeal: haha you want to bet but aren't interested in watching the game?
cazalla: indiancandy1: do you like Germans? my oma met the fuhrer
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal the fuck do i care.
TheNewDeal: enough to bet?
kakobrekla: enough to win, dude.
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal i didn't actually watch the tennis chick either
mircea_popescu: happened on a rerun, also in some cafe, also last 15 minutes or so.
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BingoBoingo: I rarely watch events I bet on
BingoBoingo: !up indiancandy1
TheNewDeal: even if it's difficulty :D?
indiancandy1: i like germans
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Difficulty isn't as lucrative as betting against Serena Williams
indiancandy1: i prefer greeks though
mircea_popescu: hard to not watch difficulty.
indiancandy1: serena williams is a champ
BingoBoingo: Serena Williams loses with great predictability
mircea_popescu: that'd have been a sad typo
TheNewDeal: I was freaking out today. Just bet against the top scorer last night, then some mexican dude whips out his phone today at work and was telling me germany had 9 goals
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal lmao i can see tha
cazalla: lol
BingoBoingo: Anytime the Decimal odds on Serena Williams opponent pays under 10, Serena doesn't win. You can turn 0.1 BTC into 1 BTC that way with decent regularity.
TheNewDeal: not sure if he didn't know the english word for siete
mircea_popescu: "omfg someone got 4 ?"
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal no they had more but annulled.
TheNewDeal: whaaaaat
mircea_popescu: they raped that team
mircea_popescu: i don't even think this happened before, in a wc match
TheNewDeal: ridiculous
TheNewDeal: he showed me a brief clip of a brazilian person in tears
TheNewDeal: it was hilarious
mircea_popescu: if messi fals into an elevator hatch
mircea_popescu: it's gonna be 25-0 for germany
TheNewDeal: ahhaha
mircea_popescu: the problem of mono teams.
BingoBoingo: I hope for an Argentina Germany final where the only players to survive the jerkoff pregame festivities are Messi and Klose
TheNewDeal: if you can make it that far, it doesn't really matter
cazalla: it'll go to a shootout where messi misses and germany wins
TheNewDeal: ill bet you on that
cazalla: what odds
cazalla: on just a shootout
decimation: asciilifeform: you can watch the loud australian guy teardown an $18k 20ghz spectrum analyzer made by agilent
assbot: EEVblog #470 - Agilent N9344C 20GHz Spectrum Analyser Teardown - YouTube
decimation: the us still makes very high quality stuff, you just have to pay golden toliet prices to get it
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mircea_popescu: decimation lmao guy wants to play with spring
mircea_popescu: wtf, not turned on ?
mircea_popescu: how do i know it's the actual thing if he doesn';t sample anything with it first ?
decimation: heh that's a good point
mircea_popescu: embeded windows ?!
mircea_popescu: this guy isn't very smart is he.
decimation: heh well it's actually a fair guess for agilent
decimation: they are famous for making $20k test equipment that runs windows xp
mircea_popescu: the smart comment was re "some processors or something but we don't care about that"
mircea_popescu: what interests him are the fully machined aluminum blocks.
mircea_popescu: i mean...
decimation: heh yeah for him the computer is the uninteresting part, he cares about the rf parts hehe
decimation: I think his past experience was as a pcb designer
decimation: so that's what he focuses on, the board construction
mircea_popescu: yeah i see it.
decimation: there are some interesting design choices (some he points out, some he doesn't). as ascii would say, figuring out the details is an excercise for the alert reader
mircea_popescu: yea im watching it
mircea_popescu: why don't they have insulant between the two modules is beyond me.
decimation: 3e8 m/s / 20 GHz = 15 mm wavelength at 20 Ghz - that's why you see all the esoteric shielding
mircea_popescu: air is dielectric, ok, but wouldn't some paste fare better ?
indiancandy1: mircea im in love with you
indiancandy1: becuase your so bizare
indiancandy1: i think your related to vladmire
mircea_popescu: how am i bizarre!
TheNewDeal: but he only impales women
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal what's an asshole in the dark.
decimation: the system is complex, it needs to separate the RF portion from the computer portion, and also conduct heat. I suspect compromises were made between the competing priorities
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indiancandy1: do you not think you are?
mircea_popescu: decimation hence the paste comment
mircea_popescu: air odesn't conduct.
indiancandy1: mircea do you eat alot of garlic
mircea_popescu: i do actually.
indiancandy1: i knew it
mircea_popescu: smells that bad eh ?
asciilifeform: decimation: i 'tore down' a $300k robot. big whoop.
asciilifeform: decimation: if you can reassemble the thing later, it's like it never happened.
mircea_popescu: i tore down a trabant engine
decimation: yeah, I can reasonably guaruntee that for 20 GHz equipment, it's not like it never happened (for this guy)
decimation: he does point out "well it will probably have to be recalibrated"
mircea_popescu: tightly packed handled mass produced electronics like these...
asciilifeform: decimation: shield design, note, is quite like mine. (and everyone else's!) i'd love to have the machined aluminum cavity, though. but cost.
decimation: heh yeah that's what I was thinking.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform our pricepoint is not 30k
asciilifeform: haha yeah
mircea_popescu: something tells me that if it were, you';d bitch about machined silver
decimation: if you want quality that's what you pay
decimation: you can probably buy a "spectrum analyzer" for $1k new
asciilifeform: decimation: my chicom dirtscope has one built in. but, have to understand limits of the instrument.
asciilifeform: (whether 200 or 200k)
indiancandy1: romanians love garlic
indiancandy1: there is a restaurant in harlesden
mircea_popescu: !up indiancandy1
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indiancandy1: a romanian one and all there food is garlicy when u sweat does it smell like garlic?
decimation: from 40 mil sheets
mircea_popescu: i mostly eat it with italian food.
asciilifeform: decimation: i bet the thing still uses staggered (out of phase) multiple ADC, though
indiancandy1: do you cook?
asciilifeform: afaik nobody makes a 20GHz adc.
decimation: oh I doubt it's 20 ghz instantaneous bandwidth
decimation: it probably has a ~100 mhz swept receiver
mircea_popescu: yes i cook.
asciilifeform: and i should add that 18k usd is cheap for a laboratory instrument.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this looks like a field instrument.
asciilifeform: a miserable little spectrophotometer (every bio lab on the planet) runs about 50k.
decimation: yeah this is one of those portable deals. You can give agilent at least 2-3x that for a high quality lab grade spectrum analyzer
decimation: asciilifeform - but to your point about bio stuff - that's probably why agilent is keeping the agilent name for the bio side of the new company
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asciilifeform: agilent is just the old hp instrument division, spun off
decimation: I know, but they are going to spinoff again
decimation: "keysight technologies" will be the name of the new test&measurement division
decimation: "agilent" is going to go to the bio-bezzle company
decimation: in a proper technology company you would keep your high-end engineers busy building esoteric stuff, while their knowledge & expertise trickles down to other areas
asciilifeform: also note that the machined cavity is SOP in military electronics
decimation: pretty much anything miniaturized & high spec RF
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decimation: I wish I had access to a high spec metal mill
asciilifeform: i see nothing in there that couldn't be milled on an ordinary desktop cnc machine.
BingoBoingo: Fuck cnc. If you can't mill it with a Bastard File it isn't worth it.
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decimation: I guess it depends which bit you used
asciilifeform: gotta love the 'bodge wire' (patch.) ~25 min. in film.
indiancandy1: when are you going 2 cook for me mircia
indiancandy1: im coming over to ur house
decimation: ascii did you use your laser cutter to make solder masks?
asciilifeform: decimation: nope. pcb made at actual factory.
decimation: like the plastic that you put over the board so you can apply the solder paste?
asciilifeform: decimation: at present time, i apply the paste with a pump. tried plastic templates (laser cut), wasn't satisfied.
asciilifeform: my tube (40 watt) won't cut steel.
decimation: yeah I guess a proper solder template is made of metal
asciilifeform: decimation: not only this - but you need a fairly costly 'printing press' to apply the paste evenly through the gasket.
decimation: on the youtubes people just use a squeegie
decimation: it looks half-ass though
decimation: actually the best solution is probably a wave-soldering machine
asciilifeform: for smt?!
decimation: I think you typically glue the components down first
asciilifeform: good recipe for failure
asciilifeform: tension on the pads
decimation: yeah I guess if they aren't tight you are going to get alot of cold joints
asciilifeform: you get parts that fall off x years later.
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decimation: heh yeah the a/d converter next to the 'bodge wires' is only 40 MHz 12-bit
asciilifeform: decimation: same as on my chinese scope!
decimation: heh yeah, most of what you pay for is in the tracking oscillator
asciilifeform: student project idea
asciilifeform: take the agilent scope, and fly it to north korea
asciilifeform: see if it boots up after.
decimation: heh you mean the gps?
decimation: would be amusing
decimation: you don't have to go to north korea: can simulate gps signal:
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asciilifeform: doesn't have to be gps proper.
asciilifeform: there are other ways to figure out that you're 'far from kansas.'
decimation: what's interesting is how modular and easy to take apart this agilent device is
decimation: it would be fairly straightforward to disassemble & repair, unlike macbook air for example
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> i see nothing in there that couldn't be milled on an ordinary desktop cnc machine. << this.
mircea_popescu: unless you're making rifles or something, you don't need it.
asciilifeform: pashtuns make perfectly normal kalash with hand file
asciilifeform: like BingoBoingo.
decimation: or titanium knives
asciilifeform: but go make the die for shells with file.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> heh yeah the a/d converter next to the 'bodge wires' is only 40 MHz 12-bit << wtf. so 20ghz is a scam ?
asciilifeform: same 'scam' as my 100mhz scope
asciilifeform: take N independent adc, and stagger the sampling phases
mircea_popescu: but they claim to be differen
mircea_popescu: which'd be the scam.
mircea_popescu: what, they use 500 of the things ?!
asciilifeform: lower noise, cleaner stagger.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> but go make the die for shells with file. << women, diamond dust, fingers.
mircea_popescu: look at some of the examples of ancient gemcutting, you'll be impressed.
asciilifeform: gem cutters cheat
decimation: it's not really an oscilloscope, doesn't need to have 20 ghz of bandwidth
asciilifeform: because crystals cleave on symmetry plane.
mircea_popescu: !up felipelalli
decimation: it makes an image of the spectrum, sampled over a period of time
decimation: typically you sweep from low to high frequencies of interest
mircea_popescu: decimation i thought the claim was 20ghz of bw
mircea_popescu: maybe im confused.
decimation: nah, not instantaneous
asciilifeform: 20ghz is easy. 20ghz where you aren't simply picking up harmonics from your own logic - hard.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amorpous metal will process similarly, just takes longer
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: women, wire, electrolyte. electrolytic deposition - with pencil!
decimation: yeah that's why all the shielding (preventing logic spurious signals)
asciilifeform: note (e.g. at 47 minutes) the pcb-as-passive-component trick
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assbot: EEVblog #470 - Agilent N9344C 20GHz Spectrum Analyser Teardown - YouTube
mircea_popescu: mike_c losing all our monyz
decimation: hehe yeah those "pcb waveguide" filters are awesome
decimation: agilent still has a few "greybeards" who know RF
mike_c: nah, i seeded with MPIF funds :D
asciilifeform: decimation: not necessarily. usually these patterns are crapped out by software.
decimation: plus vast sums invested in engineering simulation software
decimation: yeah hehe
decimation: I think agilent makes "genesis" which does exactly this
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: He's up like 0.001
BingoBoingo: For now
decimation: the max "resolution bandwidth" for the device is only 3 MHz, that's the width of its filter as it tracks over 20 GHz
mircea_popescu: micro sd slot ?
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decimation: the sd slot is probably to store pretty pictures of the spectrum you capture
mircea_popescu: so "attention to detail" agilent is full of random wires lol
asciilifeform: doubt the bodges are in the analogue nets
mircea_popescu: decimation since not populated nor intended to open i imagined it's factory diagnosis ?
asciilifeform: likely contents of sd: fpga bitstreams
asciilifeform: (firmware)
decimation: yeah I just saw what you were talking about, the one in the middle of the board is to load new firmware
decimation: that way they don't have to slow down assembly line with firmware burner
decimation: plus it is simple to field upgrade
mircea_popescu: makes sense
mircea_popescu has learned a lot this past half hour
decimation: yeah this video is unusally good for this guy, usually he just rambles at the camera for an hour rather than showing the goods
asciilifeform: serious lab instruments usually look quite like this on inside.
asciilifeform: it is only a surprise to folks who were never left alone with them
asciilifeform: (and screwdriver)
decimation: computers could be built this way, if people were willing to pay for it
asciilifeform: were, in fact.
asciilifeform: ^ first 'computer' my university got.
mircea_popescu: ceramic composite gasket ?
decimation: heh yeah that's the autonetics deal
asciilifeform: notice exactly same style of machined cavity, gasket, board.
asciilifeform: plus shock mounts
decimation: probably could withstand 50 g shock
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asciilifeform: for anyone overcome with urges, there's an emulator somewhere, if i recall.
decimation: heh thru-hole parts with hand-drawn pcbs
mircea_popescu: someone leave him the comment he asks for ?
mircea_popescu: ahaha solder reinforced dead trace ?
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assbot: EEVblog #470 - Agilent N9344C 20GHz Spectrum Analyser Teardown - Page 3
decimation: " It's not unusual for the first couple of units to have components changed by designers who are not expert solderers just to prove that the mod works as intended. Once everyone is happy then some of these units become demo models, "
decimation: this was probably a demo unit, if the agilent sales guys gave it to him
decimation: I can't find any comments about the gaskets, youtube sucks
asciilifeform: the gaskets are usually 'mu metal'
asciilifeform: ;;google mu metal
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mircea_popescu: this is why if i managed him i'd only take final customer items.
asciilifeform: the dissector fellow ought to have known this.
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BingoBoingo: Futbol would be a lot more interesting if the World Cup's championship game was just Klose and Messi taking shots from the goal line for 90 minutes
decimation: I think the mu-metal is used to line the outer plastic chassis
asciilifeform: decimation: looked solid in the film.
decimation: yeah, it did
mircea_popescu: diametric not bad. i like your guy better than the agilent guy
mircea_popescu: uh i mean dignork :p
dignork: mircea_popescu: but x-ray!
mircea_popescu: What was not noticed much outside of Afghanistan, was that this shift in weaponry brought to an end a long Afghan tradition of precision, long range shooting.
asciilifeform: old debate about bolt action vs. auto rifle is old...
mircea_popescu: this is bs. unless chinese made, a proper ak probably outshoots a worn-to-shit ww2 surplus bolt action
asciilifeform: around here, most bolt action enthusiasts own 'mosin' - in virginal conditionl.
mircea_popescu: yeah well.
decimation: not if you are 600 yards away
mircea_popescu: try shooting a ww1 rifle once
asciilifeform: russia produced millions of them, and they can be had in original crate (!) for about 100 usd.
mircea_popescu: a daisy's got better accuracy
mircea_popescu: decimation "the half dozen or so men moved several hundred meters away and drew lots to see who would fire in what order."
mircea_popescu: 2-3 even 400.
decimation: afghanistan is the ideal long-distance shooting country
mircea_popescu: in that sense they need sniper rifles not frigging enfields.
decimation: well sure, but they have $100 to spend on pashtoon ak or enfield :)
asciilifeform: russia still fields mosins for sniper use
asciilifeform: naturally, 'massaged' mosins, not the usual surplus market
cazalla: zhoutong is getting into the atm card business
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decimation: this guy on the UK side was having a field day
mircea_popescu: cazalla the disadvantage of running a neobee is that you get the "no news" people on your case
mircea_popescu: and gotta keep pumping them "news"
asciilifeform: lol re: baggage machine. used to push my knapsack through this exact type of box every morning.
asciilifeform: also mega-lol re: 3rd comment on film.
asciilifeform: 1nn0c3nt l1v3s!
cazalla: mircea_popescu: there is a new exchange here in au,, i emailed and invited them here, they were happy to meet for coffee or do a google hangout but no show here :\
dignork: the guy made a long film out of it, but he managed to turn it on, and then was brave/stupid enough to disassemble particle emitter
mircea_popescu: dignork o wow he did that ?
mircea_popescu: what do trhese things use, high voltage diode ?
asciilifeform: xray tube hasn't really changed since it was discovered.
decimation: most good engineers would have alot of trouble figuring out circuitry from an xray (in a short timeframe)
mircea_popescu: tungsten/rhenium ?
decimation: now imagine what kind of chance the average airport mouthbreather has to figure things out
asciilifeform: aye, whack a tungsten target with electron. bremsstrahlung!
decimation: nah, use scotch tape
asciilifeform tried to build the famous scotch tape xray
asciilifeform: hard to get detector that is sensitive enough
assbot: Sticky tape generates X-rays : Nature News
asciilifeform: that one.
asciilifeform: love how they eventually admitted that it was a '50s russian discovery
asciilifeform: but, 'remastered!'
decimation: Yeah I bet you need a good vaccuum too
assbot: Baggage X-ray machine part 6 - inside the black box. - YouTube
decimation: I was reading about the history of computers the other day ascii - early soviet machines were balance ternary!
asciilifeform: decimation: yes.
decimation: I find that amusing, perhaps when the 'end of moore' comes, ternary computers will reappear
mircea_popescu: what killed it ?
assbot: Online Emulation of Soviet Ternary Computer Setun / rinary
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i might have mentioned this once, long ago. what killed? the decision to copy american machines to run warez.
asciilifeform: all native russian work on computing was nixed
decimation: and the american machines were already "new jersey" style
asciilifeform: ternary cpu was not only space-efficient (closer to 'e', more compact arithmetic representation) but considerably simplified arithm. circuits.
asciilifeform: no need for 'complements'
assbot: Ternary computer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: There are still WWI era Springfields that are in nice shape, but with the Enfields... "British Industry" producers of fine cars that have a commonality with puppies in their leaving of puddles
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 309868 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 595 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 17 hours, 48 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16958371720.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.83189
decimation: "Donald Knuth has pointed out that truncation and rounding are the same operation in balanced ternary ? they produce exactly the same result (a property shared with other balanced numeral systems). "
assbot: Balanced ternary - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: it's actually quite elegant, rids you of the need to come up with some silly signed integer representation
assbot: Wierd military computer boards - YouTube
asciilifeform: ^ re: mil-style board construction
BingoBoingo still dreams of "spider shotgun" shooting sub 0.1 grams of salt
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'ratshot'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Ratshot fucks up drywall
asciilifeform: exists, saw in catalogue not long ago.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17314 @ 0.00078026 = 13.5094 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: incl. plastic variant
BingoBoingo: Plastic ratshot still messes drywall. Also... I want it for the challenge. Not smashing spiders with a weapon capable of felling a snake
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 100mW diode laser.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26610 @ 0.00077972 = 20.7483 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Now we're talking
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03660002 = 0.732 BTC [-] {2}
decimation: wonder how many backyard warriors are planning on killing the neighbor's kids while "defending" their home with an ak?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 70 @ 0.036 = 2.52 BTC [-]
nubbins`: i saw a video earlier of a 3d-printed composting shredder
BingoBoingo: Blackbag operation against the groundhog stealling all of the soon to be tomatoes last week was satisfying
assbot: Brazil blown out by Germany at World Cup: How will it effect President Dilma Rousseff in the upcoming election?
decimation: ascii those military boards you linked are apparently from a VAX!
asciilifeform: decimation: 'minuteman' and many other american products still run on vax (in their 'modernized' variants!)
BingoBoingo: Vaxocentrism 4 Lyfe!!!
decimation: yeah, the amount of extra work you have to go through to meet mil-spec for avionics, etc, why bother changing software?
asciilifeform: vax forever because... alternative is: winblows.
asciilifeform: (why? ask them - not me)
assbot: 404 - File or directory not found.
BingoBoingo: Spac isn't bad either before Sparc III
decimation: "The Defense Department has leveraged the buying power of more than two million information technology users to award a three-year, $617 million joint enterprise license agreement for Microsoft products, defense officials announced."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31476 @ 0.00077871 = 24.5107 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Twitter / dougmillsnyt: Obama reacts as he is greeted ...
decimation: the DoD was very clever in its spending of $0.6 billion for crapware
decimation: if only they would have seen the value they would have also purchased whatsapp for $20bn
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8324 @ 0.00078138 = 6.5042 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: decimation: And you suppose Facebook isn't a front how?
assbot: Facebook CEO Admits To Calling Users 'Dumb Fucks'
nubbins`: horse heads
assbot: Riverwalk. A proper one. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: Smallpox discovered: Old laboratory produces surprising find.
BingoBoingo: !up peterl
peterl: hi
BingoBoingo: !up crypto___
BingoBoingo: !up nam-shub
BingoBoingo: !up shandid
BingoBoingo: !up akstunt600
shandid: hey
BingoBoingo: Hello shandid
BingoBoingo: What brings you here
mircea_popescu: <decimation> "The Defense Department has leveraged the buying power << lmao
mircea_popescu: looks like i owe stan a beer nao
mircea_popescu: any strippers in washington dc wanna do a home delivery ?
TheNewDeal: mememe
asciilifeform: i'll pick up mein bier in person soon enough.
mircea_popescu: bring the strippers.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00077757 = 13.2187 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Looks like I could do it round trip of a bit over 24 hours on I-70
benkay: <mike_c> can anybody recommend an irc bouncer. // emacs + mosh on remote boxx
mike_c: thx. i don't know anything about emacs yet.
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