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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00082116 = 3.2846 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85772 @ 0.00082269 = 70.5638 BTC [+] {5}
kakobrekla: not bad
assbot: BitcoinStats
punkman: he's persistent, selling them reports
asciilifeform: '...I probably have the best feedback of anyone you could ask. (I know, because I had asked around in all btc-related channels...' << what does he smoke ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00082045 = 10.7479 BTC [-]
punkman: !up Phraust
Phraust: danke
punkman: !up chax
punkman: ;;gettrust assbot Phraust
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Phraust: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Phraust | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Phraust | Rated since: Thu Apr 28 16:58:11 2011
Phraust: guess I should auth. XD
punkman: I see you are oldschool
punkman: assbot doesn't trust you yet though
assbot: shinh/sedlisp GitHub
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26945 @ 0.00081742 = 22.0254 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00081866 = 10.2333 BTC [+]
assbot: Facebook tinkered with users feeds for a massive psychology experiment · Newswire · The A.V. Club
punkman: now if they can figure out how to put users in ad-clicking moods
punkman: maybe you'll go to the doctor and he'll prescribe 3 hours of facebook a day, "please turn the dial to prozac mode"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43700 @ 0.00081738 = 35.7195 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00081738 = 3.1878 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.00081613 = 22.362 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.0008184 = 11.4576 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4221 @ 0.00081866 = 3.4556 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00082047 = 13.2096 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22462 @ 0.00081798 = 18.3735 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00081955 = 14.2602 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00081863 = 6.2216 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37400 @ 0.00081853 = 30.613 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: ;;rate ninjashogun -9 inquire within
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -9 for user ninjashogun has been recorded.
punkman: wottease
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48772 @ 0.00082216 = 40.0984 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.03 = 0.75 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43115 @ 0.0008231 = 35.488 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25613 @ 0.00082265 = 21.0705 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: ;;rate ninjashogun -1 has the flavor of an UnSavory Garnish
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user ninjashogun has been recorded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2031 @ 0.02151696 = 43.7009 BTC [-] {41}
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 596.0, Best ask: 597.73, Bid-ask spread: 1.73000, Last trade: 594.64, 24 hour volume: 6881.10575204, 24 hour low: 575.0, 24 hour high: 600.0, 24 hour vwap: 588.52709013
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 594.64, vol: 6881.07310903 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 595.0, vol: 5320.23678 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 600.16, vol: 8061.37427984 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 604.0, vol: 37.06848627 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 608.727696, vol: 5142.33540000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 590.91605, vol: 21.86115249 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 599.1472, vol: 145.62163831 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 599.317143044
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 238 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 4k High: 199 Low: 199 VWAP: 198
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 358102.38 in 1581 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -29.99
atcbot: 45k@277 48k@275 60k@238 | 965k@199 750k@175 216k@160
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39200 @ 0.00081907 = 32.1075 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 89 @ 0.01760084 = 1.5665 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1477 @ 0.00082087 = 1.2124 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19001 @ 0.0008215 = 15.6093 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12572 @ 0.00082285 = 10.3449 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38800 @ 0.00082121 = 31.8629 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39750 @ 0.00082362 = 32.7389 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27250 @ 0.00082388 = 22.4507 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00082397 = 15.161 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37154 @ 0.00082456 = 30.6357 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00081892 = 9.4995 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 25 @ 0.02222982 = 0.5557 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 39 @ 0.02301053 = 0.8974 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24901 @ 0.00082306 = 20.495 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.0008251 = 22.5252 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: !up Conwke
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 115 @ 0.02207304 = 2.5384 BTC [-] {4}
thestringpuller: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 308310 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 137 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 16 hours, 56 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16784456577.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.67489
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11808 @ 0.00082511 = 9.7429 BTC [+]
assbot: Zwanzig Jahre alte Lcke in Lempel-Ziv-Kompression gefhrdet Linux-Nutzer | heise online
kakobrekla: bugs on mars
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 620 @ 0.00200081 = 1.2405 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57189 @ 0.0008243 = 47.1409 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Hacking Teams Tradecraft and Android Implant
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.021501 = 1.0751 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21450 @ 0.00082758 = 17.7516 BTC [+]
assbot: [C] LZ4 memory corruption PoC - Pastebin.com
asciilifeform nominates Yann Collet for 'flondor list'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.021501 = 0.645 BTC [-]
assbot: The author of the OpenSSL Heartbleed bug also wrote the spec : programming
kakobrekla: flondor?
asciilifeform: !s from:mircea_popescu flondor
asciilifeform: !s flondor
assbot: Georg Ritter von Flondor, and what his unhappy life can teach us pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
asciilifeform: 'The Authors Guild accused the retailer of acting illegally.' << these are the folks who wanted public libraries banned.
asciilifeform: (as well as the sale of used books.)
asciilifeform: i couldn't imagine a better endorsement for amazon than their hatred.
thestringpuller: https://coinvalidation.com/home/ << if they aren't whiltelisting or blacklisting, what the actual fuck do these guys do?
assbot: CoinValidation - Helping Bitcoin businesses achieve regulatory compliance
thestringpuller: Who da fuq is alex waters?
thestringpuller: http://coinapex.com/ really tired of da bootstrap scroll sites
assbot: CoinApex - NYC-Based Software, Technology & Cryptography Incubator
asciilifeform: if they aren't whiltelisting or blacklisting, what the actual fuck do these guys do << they 'do what they must - because they can' (tm)
thestringpuller: sounds like a motto for dogecoiners...
thestringpuller: (because they love video games)
kakobrekla: pretty fuckin sad ascii
asciilifeform: 'author's guild' tried to have ocr readers used by the blind - banned.
asciilifeform: they also mostly succeeded in crippling google's 'book search.'
kakobrekla: on what grounds are they getting such ideas
asciilifeform: u.s. copyright law.
asciilifeform: they're a kind of 'riaa' for books
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 41 @ 0.021501 = 0.8815 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: even the very name of the org is a bold lie - they represent mega-publishers
kakobrekla: amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
assbot: Kindle 2 ‘violates copyright’, claims Authors Guild - Telegraph
asciilifeform: '“They don’t have the right to read a book out loud,” said Paul Aiken, executive director of the Authors Guild. “That’s an audio right, which is derivative under copyright law.”' << these folks have crossed 'parody horizon' long ago,.
kakobrekla: yes, it does sound like a start of monthy python sketch.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00082773 = 4.5939 BTC [+]
assbot: Online Sales of Used Books Draw Protest - New York Times
asciilifeform: '"We asked could we at least talk about when something could become available as a used book? Could we maybe wait three months after the book was published?" said Patricia Schroeder, president of the Association of American Publishers. "The biggest problem is that it is legal, I think. I wring my hands, pound my desk and say, `Aargh.' "'
assbot: The Authors Alliance vs. The Authors Guild
asciilifeform: phun phact:
asciilifeform: you can get virtually any book ever published - for free, searchable, in any format you like - on the net. in five seconds.... if you speak russian or chinese.
asciilifeform: idiot anglo empire wants to shoot itself in the head? sure, why not.
asciilifeform: 'if you see a man drowning, and you can either photograph or save him - what shutter and aperture settings would you use?'
kakobrekla: should prolly go with russian since i can somewhat parse cyrillic
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.02114413 = 0.6132 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.80830714 BTC to 9`682 shares, 18677 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 18.50566440 BTC to 72`316 shares, 25590 satoshi per share
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17214 @ 0.00082412 = 14.1864 BTC [-]
assbot: Another Fair Use Victory for Book Scanning in HathiTrust | Electronic Frontier Foundation
asciilifeform: ^ they sued, alleging that... making backups was 'excessive copying'
kakobrekla: ot, i actually took like a half year russian class when i was in elementary. cant recall shit though.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: betcha you can learn russian sooner than this crap disappears (it will probably take a full-bore u.s. collapse)
kakobrekla: hah, they dont store it in the internet archive? :)
kakobrekla: >and trying to measure an investment over time in a currency as volatile as Bitcoin is just plain dumb.
kakobrekla: guess the author
kakobrekla: no assbot , its not FabianB .
FabianB: huh?
FabianB: ;;ident FabianB
gribble: Nick 'FabianB', with hostmask 'FabianB!~fabian@unaffiliated/fabianb', is identified as user 'fabianb', with GPG key id 797C1106D52E79DF, key fingerprint 9B854E5F36B927C9C365F208797C1106D52E79DF, and bitcoin address 18Wnjc1fcWDboZDHNsn48URtwGaqRjPnAt
kakobrekla: <kakobrekla> >and trying to measure an investment over time in a currency as volatile as Bitcoin is just plain dumb.
kakobrekla: <kakobrekla> guess the author
kakobrekla: * assbot gives voice to FabianB
kakobrekla: <kakobrekla> no assbot , its not FabianB .
FabianB: lol
kakobrekla: blah, should be dpaste but i fail.
FabianB: yeah well, that quote wasn't me indeed
asciilifeform: benkay: '-9 inquire within' << mr. spam came to you? do tell.
kakobrekla: he also wanted to dock me.
FabianB: $traded
FabianB: hmpf
FabianB: $traded
empyex: FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR
thestringpuller: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 308325 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 122 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 15 hours, 5 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16780864348.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.6482
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 38 @ 0.02337971 = 0.8884 BTC [+] {2}
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 238 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 4k High: 199 Low: 199 VWAP: 198
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3704 @ 0.00082241 = 3.0462 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: !s sybil
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
asciilifeform: 'they need to not only create profiles but have a fresh VM/install/whatever for them' << what was he smoking?
asciilifeform: that quote betrays a staggering lack of comprehension regarding... virtually every aspect of computing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89057 @ 0.00082009 = 73.0348 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: if protocol has a field 'hash of disk serial number' or whatever, i can stuff anything i like there.
asciilifeform: let's assume fluffypony was drinking heavily that day.
benkay: ;;gettrust lobbes
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask lobbes!lobbes@2a00:dcc0:eda:3748:247:48:123:1. Trust relationship from user benkay to user lobbes: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=lobbes | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=lobbes | Rated since: Sat May 31 10:27:00 2014
benkay: lobbes: who are ye?
benkay: The choice of Forth was dictated by strong implementation issues. such as
benkay: compactness of code. efficiency and portability to other microprocessor-based systems.
lobbes: I am a newbie trying to sponge up as much info as possible
benkay: ah, so lisp:forth :: python:c, then.
benkay: jus' trollin'
lobbes: lol
benkay: well, welcome lobbes may your studies be fruitful
benkay: i want to write some expert systems.
benkay: who can i sell this AI snake oil to...
asciilifeform: that ship sailed. ai winter.
benkay: but think of all the suckers who haven't read their history!
benkay: dude have you ever heard an SAP pitch?
benkay: if people buy that shit i have a Lisp Machine to sell them.
assbot: The polity that is China dissident “markets” in everything
[]bot: Bet created: "Twitter stock to close at over $45 in 2014 " http://bitbet.us/bet/971/
BingoBoingo: benkay: Just add "for robots" to your proposal and suddenly the LISP, AI, and expert systems are marketable again.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 594.0, Best ask: 595.98, Bid-ask spread: 1.98000, Last trade: 595.98, 24 hour volume: 6140.40746732, 24 hour low: 575.0, 24 hour high: 604.21, 24 hour vwap: 592.02387377
[]bot: Bet created: "Silver price over $23/oz in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/972/
mircea_popescu: so i am working on an epic post of grandeur.
mircea_popescu: anyone care to guess the topic ?
benkay: tits!
Duffer1: s.mnky?
mircea_popescu: ok so that's two...
benkay: steak
benkay: la serenissima
benkay: i'm just going to put like 5 business cards in this here jar...
mircea_popescu: shit, english lacks a word for one who merely likes to hear himself speak ?
benkay: a popescu?
Duffer1: ;;ud malerik
mircea_popescu: fu zingerboy!
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=malerik | Mar 30, 2008 ... Someone who loves to hear himself talk. He will talk about himself to anyone who will listen, for hours. A Malerik also falls in love and tries to ...
mircea_popescu: a ty. was gonna fall back on pig latin
mircea_popescu: garrulous
mircea_popescu: wtf is malerik come from ?
Duffer1: no idea
assbot: Karolina Malerik
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 16 @ 0.03847462 = 0.6156 BTC [-] {2}
HeySteve: hello
HeySteve: mircea_popescu, I had a question about your "bits for tits" offer. I mentioned it to a woman who is interested but a little reluctant to show her face, is it ok if she doesn't?
mircea_popescu: the reason is, we can't really identify tits.
mircea_popescu: for this reason, as the library grows, it'll become trivial for one to just keep getting 10 bitcents
mircea_popescu: you see what i mean ?
HeySteve: yes, I'll let her know
fluffypony: [20:08:37] +asciilifeform: let's assume fluffypony was drinking heavily that day. <- probably...although I have a feeling I was thinking about serial numbers at the time. too hard to try recall.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony you can change anything you want about the hdd
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I know
HeySteve: also, do you want the woman to accept directly bitcoin as in that previous experiment with the call-girls (I think they were)?
mircea_popescu: HeySteve what, you want me to pay via bitpay nao ?
HeySteve: nah, was thinking of accepting it for her then paying her out in local fiats, she has no idea about BTC
assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/33JK61K.txt )
BingoBoingo: Heysteve is trying his hand at the pimping business
mircea_popescu: now why would a girl that has no idea about btc nor any experience camwhoring
HeySteve: heh you could say so
mircea_popescu: want to participate in a btc giveaway for camwhores ?
HeySteve: oh she has experience
mircea_popescu: this is almost like forum ceos
assbot: Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3FCW3RB.txt )
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.02346995 = 0.9388 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: HeySteve so then why's she shy ?!
BingoBoingo is growing high molecular weight polymers today!
HeySteve: well it's not her profession and she's worried about it impacting that
HeySteve: but pretty sure she'll get over it
mircea_popescu: this your gf we're talking here ?
HeySteve: nope
BingoBoingo: Is this another interview for a cryptocoinnews article?
HeySteve: ha it's more likely to appear on jezebel
HeySteve: which might work well for publicity actually. worked for tucker max anyway
BingoBoingo: At least the day's chemistry is going well.
Duffer1: MP will we have to wait and see what the article is about?
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 hour or so
mircea_popescu: HeySteve so i don't get it, jezebel chick petrified of slut shaming ? da fuck does she care, i'm not about to do it.
Duffer1: cool
HeySteve: mircea_popescu, no I mean some feminist publication might come after you at this rate. not so much for this but that fiverr thing...
mircea_popescu: !s feminist was born
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell princessnell know any feminist publication that may wish to come after me ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Andreas again?
benkay: what are you growing today, BingoBoingo ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00082067 = 24.2918 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: benkay: I'm reseasoning the cast iron
benkay: do go on - what's being grown?
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 596.58, Best ask: 598.38, Bid-ask spread: 1.80000, Last trade: 598.38, 24 hour volume: 6167.89007536, 24 hour low: 575.0, 24 hour high: 604.21, 24 hour vwap: 592.428694795
BingoBoingo: benkay: Well, I'm turning a bunch of oil into a uniform layer of polymer over the cast iron so I can fry shit without it sticking to the pans
[]bot: Bet placed: 3 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/783/ Odds: 95(Y):5(N) by coin, 91(Y):9(N) by weight. Total bet: 17.73721769 BTC. Current weight: 44,349.
HeySteve2: BingoBoingo, cast iron frying pans are great
BingoBoingo: Indeed, these were located a bit rusty, but that was corrected
HeySteve2: cool, I was convinced to get one by this - http://www.richsoil.com/cast-iron.jsp
assbot: How To: Cast Iron Skillet Non-Stick and Lasts a Lifetime
benkay: i've finally broken the girl of cooking carbs on my cast iron
BingoBoingo: Well some carbs only cook well there (the canonical example is cornbread)
mircea_popescu: !up Smilence
mircea_popescu: and now for the logs!
mircea_popescu: pankkake: http://camgirladventures.blogspot.com/2013/12/happy-new-year-and-late-marry-christmas.html I had no idea those things existed << dude if it's teaching pankkake new porns, any expense is well worth it.
assbot: Cam Girl Adventures: Happy new year and a late Marry Christmas!
benkay: BingoBoingo: really?!
benkay: fascinating.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1490 << alternatively, why not rewrite the tcp/ip stack so that all traffic is encrypted properly and adios.
assbot: Loper OS » Practical Blockchain Telegraphy.
mircea_popescu: benkay it's a fact.
BingoBoingo: benkay: You may apportion your thanks for that discovery to... Pretty much the entire south...
benkay: we all know how i cook, mi
benkay: mircea_popescu:
benkay: i have a cook
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: if thorstein veblen was right - we'll be deluged with 'customers.' at least for a while. << you're too soon. we'll scam them later.
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust ninjashogun
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user ninjashogun: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=ninjashogun | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ninjashogun | Rated since: Thu Jun 26 19:05:58 2014
mircea_popescu: lmao -3 is not in any sense "the best feedback of anyone you could ask"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.023395 = 0.5615 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: in fact i wager a guess that 2/3 of the wot has a better feedback
assbot: How to talk to an ex...
mircea_popescu: "I could really do with a female collaborator to make this instructable more useful and make sure it is one sided..."
mircea_popescu: guy that has no ex writing guides about how to talk to the ex he never had.
mircea_popescu: oh interfuckwits.
FabianB: "rewrite the tcp/ip stack so that all traffic is encrypted" <-- as cjdns has done
nubbins`: !s richsoil
mircea_popescu: FabianB prolly. i hear nothing but good things of that procject
nubbins` shrugs
nubbins`: heysteve is gone now
nubbins`: but that's the same web page that got me into cast iron :/
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell HeySteve I like how he describes surface tumors on the skillets.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: !up Ginux
BingoBoingo: Wow, all of ninjashogun's WoT ratings are from regulars here.
asciilifeform: 'rewrite the tcp/ip stack so that all traffic is encrypted' << doesn't solve the problem described in the 'enforcement' article.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how not ?!
asciilifeform: channel still lives on a distinct physical box that belongs to someone
mircea_popescu: not practically, no.
asciilifeform: unless by 'encrypted' you also mean link saturation and some variant of 'onion route' (a la the claimed mechanics of tor) - same problem.
mircea_popescu: not really. how do you know what subset of gibberish is meaningful to whom ?
asciilifeform: if you want a 'closed' channel, then we can do that right now - gpg mailing list.
mircea_popescu: for instance.
nubbins`: BingoBoingo he was complaining in -otc earlier about not getting a fair shake
asciilifeform: but if you want something public (open to new participants without elaborate gymnastics) - rather different problem.
mircea_popescu: "without elaborate gymnastics" ? you go write the irc protocol for they who can't read or write
mircea_popescu: and i'll do something else til you're done.
mircea_popescu: literacy has barriers to entry. always has. always will.
mircea_popescu: experience shows them being low is counterproductive
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Well, what -otc is largely concerned with and what he got his here feedback for don't overlap perfectly... Other than the general disdain people share for spamzors
nubbins`: nod :D
mircea_popescu: feedback is feedback neh ?
mircea_popescu: he never specified what kind
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66153 @ 0.00082022 = 54.26 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: "Facebook then analyzed the future postings of those users over the course of a week to see if people responded with increased positivity or negativity of their own, thus answering the question of whether emotional states can be transmitted across a social network. Result: They can!"
mircea_popescu: except, it only works on the herd.
mircea_popescu: basically, facebook scientists just scientifically proved facebook is dead : the herd has replaced the trend setters.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla it went as high as 60 iirc
kakobrekla: i mean for the 'private offerings'
mircea_popescu: fluffypony frat party ?
fluffypony: I'm guessing so
fluffypony: looks awesome
kakobrekla: looks odd to me.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla o i thought the part circled in red is what you meant. well they had a few PTS iirc
fluffypony: I've been tweeting pics and shit
fluffypony: will put them all up in a blog post when I get a chance
mircea_popescu: *: asciilifeform nominates Yann Collet for 'flondor list' << and now thanks to search, we can even use this.
mircea_popescu: !s flondor list
mircea_popescu: !s 'flondor list'
mircea_popescu: o how great technology works
assbot: Whilst most hotels fly the flag of whatever country they're in, Malla Castle flies a Bitcoin flag. http://t.co/ZsCQFwTt5C
mircea_popescu: bitcoin has a flag ?
asciilifeform: Yann Collet << not because he wrote the turd. (though it alone might suffice!) - because of what he said afterward.
fluffypony: aight bbl
asciilifeform: turn on the kitchen light, you can tell who is a cockroach - by the desperate scurrying.
BingoBoingo: Oh, Serena Lost to Cornet again
BingoBoingo: My milking of line BTC books by betting against Serena when the odds are around 10 to one her favor continues to abuse them.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16680 @ 0.00082125 = 13.6985 BTC [+]
assbot: RealTime Data Compression: Debunking the LZ4 "20 years old bug" myth
mthreat: mircea_popescu: it looks like !s is double-url-encoding
mircea_popescu: a lz4 bug which depends on 16mb blocks on 32 bit seems dead in the water
mircea_popescu: mthreat don't you just love fencing errors ?
BingoBoingo: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 7 minutes and 51 seconds
benkay: oh man i was trying to write code and then mircea_popescu dropped a blogbomb with a szabo link
mircea_popescu: hey, earlier i was trying to write an article and you kept zinging me
mircea_popescu: it's only fair
mircea_popescu: !up peter82
peter82: thx, i feel honored :)
mircea_popescu: lol so who're you ?
peter82: some random dude from germany who discovered trilema.com and klicked on "#bitcoin-assets on freenode"
peter82: i like your blog
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 60 @ 0.02345995 = 1.4076 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 85 @ 0.02170717 = 1.8451 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 49 @ 0.0106143 = 0.5201 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8445 @ 0.00082163 = 6.9387 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Phone use in Saudia Arabia has a penetration rate of 170%, with an estimated average of 30% of individual income spent on mobile phone and Internet costs in 2014."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.02150003 = 2.15 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: sauce?
benkay: another factor in breaking the USG's power monopoly will be the cheaply made en-masse autonomous thingers capable of bringing down any bird or boat they field
benkay: these saudi phone users - is this the upper crust or the imported slaves?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 122 @ 0.02105257 = 2.5684 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63050 @ 0.00082177 = 51.8126 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 62 @ 0.02025167 = 1.2556 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 34 @ 0.0200094 = 0.6803 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 41 @ 0.021 = 0.861 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: Farm laborer monthly pay, with meals = 400 asses ; Teacher's monthly pay, per boy = 800 asses ; Barber's service price, per client = 32 asses ; 1 kg of pork = 380 asses (1 lb = 170 asses) ; 1 kg of grapes = 32 asses (1 lb = 15 asses)
mircea_popescu: how much for an assbot i wonder.
assbot: Ancient Roman coins depict sundry sexual acts, but what were they for?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell jborkl http://www.bcoinnews.com/part-2-bitcoin-difficulty-hash-target/ << this is a nice explanation, i bet useful for many people.
assbot: Part 2: Bitcoin Difficulty and Hash Target | Bitcoin News
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00082168 = 13.9686 BTC [-]
bitstein: Tangentially related, when I was at Pompeii, I was told these were the signs to point travelers in the direction of the brothels: https://i.imgur.com/JiWHKeX.jpg
mircea_popescu: lol makes sense
bitstein: Unfortunately we didn't have time to visit the brothels, which is the most popular part of Pompeii. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_art_in_Pompeii_and_Herculaneum
assbot: Erotic art in Pompeii and Herculaneum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.19310031 = 2.1241 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 42 @ 0.0223998 = 0.9408 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1549 @ 0.001614 = 2.5001 BTC [+]
benkay: bitstein: are they still operational?
bitstein: Prostitution in Pompeii has moved to underground operations ever since Vesuvius erupted.
benkay: hahaha
benkay: i mean i have no idea man - ancient disaster prostitution tourism?
benkay: not infeasible.
bitstein: Well, it's all just ruins now. The brothels are just full of fat American tourists.
bitstein: Naples is close by. You can get all the illicit goods and services you need there.
assbot: Gomorrah (2008) - Official Trailer - YouTube
mircea_popescu: lol good one
mircea_popescu: <benkay> i mean i have no idea man - ancient disaster prostitution tourism? << a certain party tends to take girls for nude shots in various cemeteries.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26255 @ 0.00082168 = 21.5732 BTC [-]
assbot: Who's on Stage? - YouTube
BingoBoingo: !t h AM1
assbot: [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.19310030 / 0.19453341 / 0.20199999 (25 shares, 4.86333524 BTC), 7D: 0.18500000 / 0.19842068 / 0.23100000 (852 shares, 169.05442337 BTC), 30D: 0.11000000 / 0.22668297 / 0.45390844 (5514 shares, 1249.92991536 BTC)
hanbot: http://www.writerscafe.org/mirceapopescu44 sounds like a fun confusion target :D
assbot: Mircea Popescu | WritersCafe.org | The Online Writing Community
assbot: Abbot and Costello - Who's on First - YouTube
hanbot: "about me : Aspiring writer. Atheist jerk deemed arrogant by the second rate minds of society. I write poetry, fantasy pieces, critical essays and I've recently tried my hand at play writing. I play the guitar and watch pro wrestling. Student of Letters and Arts."
mircea_popescu: "I’m drunk tonight The smell of death Keeps haunting my world The scent Of scotch In dreary passion past us whirled."
mircea_popescu: maybe i should hire this guy to post on the forum.
mircea_popescu: benkay precisely.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 43 @ 0.022299 = 0.9589 BTC [-]
benkay: original's better.
mircea_popescu: that's like a law of thermodynamics.
BingoBoingo: Right, but the forum so it earned the shittier
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that didn't parse
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, the forum is shittier than IRC, ergo the forum gets the second rate Mircea... seeing as they chased hanbot off.
BingoBoingo: Addressed to benkay's "original's better." but... The fingers-brain connection is only so robust operating at speed
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo he was talking of the little girl.
assbot: Full Abbott and Costello EpisodeThe Dentist's Office - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00082125 = 25.2124 BTC [-] {3}
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/783/ Odds: 95(Y):5(N) by coin, 92(Y):8(N) by weight. Total bet: 19.73721769 BTC. Current weight: 44,268.
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 308369 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 78 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 9 hours, 51 minutes, and 9 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16802072525.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.80574
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 37 @ 0.02 = 0.74 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: i was?
benkay: which little girl
dignork: https://twitter.com/rabite/status/482979706460180480 << somebody should tell him about bitbet
assbot: To those saying LZ4 bug aint exploitable: put money on it. Ive got 1 BTC on product exploits within 1wk. Takers? http://t.co/pdTal9bYNR
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21998 @ 0.00082144 = 18.07 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00082305 = 4.1976 BTC [+]
assbot: The Sinking Ship of E-Mail Security - Adam Caudill
benkay: We need to be discussing how to eliminate email, not new ways to glue partial solutions on to it. STARTTLS isn’t the answer, PGP isn’t the answer, S/MIME isn’t the answer - an entirely new protocol is.
benkay: (quote)
benkay: really? pgp isn't the answer? nooz to me.
assbot: The IPO is dying. Marc Andreessen explains why. - Vox
benkay: the sarbox claims are interesting
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22150 @ 0.00082142 = 18.1945 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: toxoplasm, I was shooting heroin and reading The...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03847462 = 0.7695 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: lol '“Subway™ Eat Fresh and Freeze, Scumbag!®” I yelled.
BingoBoingo: Too late. He was already out the front door. I went after him.'
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 341705.61 in 1536 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -33.20
thestringpuller: people still pool hopping?
BingoBoingo: Looks like atc diff will be dropping twice in a row
thestringpuller: the ATC market depth is growing too...
BingoBoingo: I'll decline to comment
thestringpuller: it still looks like lots of pool hopping from big entities tho
thestringpuller: like you'll see 2 terahashes hit a coin for a few days then drop and so on but I guess this has already been discussed to death
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32116 @ 0.0008202 = 26.3415 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021746 BTC (Total: 434.93 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: !ticker m f.mpif
assbot: [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0002151 / 0.0002159 / 0.00023849 (5054 shares, 1.09 BTC), 30D: 0.0002151 / 0.00021604 / 0.00023849 (22205 shares, 4.80 BTC)
gribble: 1.346258011452534E10
thestringpuller: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 16806622431.4 based on data since last change | 17627747376.5 based on data for last three days
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 238 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 4k High: 199 Low: 199 VWAP: 198
BingoBoingo: I'm just surprised when the poolhoppers came to ATC this time that they didn't stay long...
atcbot: 45k@277 48k@275 60k@238 | 965k@199 750k@175 216k@160
assbot: Secret of the Banjo's Unique Sound Discovered By Nobel Prize-Winning Physicist - Slashdot
assbot: Elio Motors promises $6,800 car - Jun. 26, 2014
mircea_popescu: <dignork> https://twitter.com/rabite/status/482979706460180480 << somebody should tell him about bitbet << that;s okay, he doesn't need to read
assbot: To those saying LZ4 bug aint exploitable: put money on it. Ive got 1 BTC on product exploits within 1wk. Takers? http://t.co/pdTal9bYNR
mircea_popescu: he just writes.
mircea_popescu: !up tjader
mircea_popescu: <benkay> really? pgp isn't the answer? nooz to me. << well so let "we" eliminate email lol.
mircea_popescu: <assbot> The IPO is dying. Marc Andreessen explains why. - Vox summary : "that asshole mp killed it"
Duffer1: "we deserved it"
assbot: Need a search term.
thestringpuller: !search The IPO is dying
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you know, dacia has been making a 5k euro car for years now
mircea_popescu: heck, davout prolly bought one
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah, that's been mentioned here before. I just wonder what kind of shitfits will happen here the resistance Tesla see to selling a $60,000 vehicle
thestringpuller: i was actually going to purchase a tesla
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00082018 = 16.0755 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: i will!
kakobrekla: !up nick1234abcd_
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00082157 = 8.4622 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: !up elgrecoFL
mircea_popescu: !up pigeons
mircea_popescu: pankkake you know, i imagine the fact that the btc for tits article you put into reddit went exactly nowhere is pretty indicative of reddit's success at its chosen task i reckon.
thestringpuller: need to put that around campuses
mircea_popescu: there's probably 100 chicks looking for ways to make money with their tits on girlsbitcoin thing, there's maybe 100 bux each could make. a total of one met hers. 99% failure
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.02079684 = 0.5823 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18197 @ 0.00082157 = 14.9501 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: !up tris
benkay: https://libertyvps.net/ << anyone tried 'em?
assbot: Offshore and Anonymous Bitcoin VPS Hosting by LibertyVPS
BingoBoingo: benkay: They way they are branded, one has to assume honeypot
BingoBoingo: Anonymous and Coinbase payments really don't go together
benkay: a) anonymity's a red herring b) if they're using CB to recv btc, who cares?
BingoBoingo: It's like the people in the commercials on talk radio extoling the virtues of gold and silver because they want to make fiat. Their site screams exactly that kind of hypocrisy.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00082217 = 13.4836 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: i care. i wouldn't buy shit with coinbase.
BingoBoingo: And this is from the guy shorting BitPay, whose main selling point is not being CoinBase
mircea_popescu: is that toxoplasm thing earlier supposed to be directly funny or just some sort of ultra-ellaborate meta-joke at the idiocy of us collegiate libertards struggling mightily with strawmen ?
BingoBoingo: It's another example of the broken US sense of humor where obscure Reference ===== Joke, because CBS killed culture or some shit
mircea_popescu: sucks to like cocktails in that country, i guess
mircea_popescu: "I wanted to coldcock the guy." that line was obviously meant to be "i wanted to coldcock the cocksucker"
BingoBoingo: Eh, everything is broken here. I'm just wondering if the person who buys Iowa is going to do it for the soil or the uranium.
mircea_popescu: being clueless is one thing, but being impotent... why even bother.
mircea_popescu: "You might say that's a good idea, shareholders should be treated equally. The problem is the shareholder base itself has changed dramatically. You've had a dramatic rise in hedge funds. Very short-term trading and dramatic rise in short-selling [investors betting that a stock's price will fall]. If you're a public company, you become the shuttlecock between warring longs and shorts. They bat your stock around like it'
mircea_popescu: s a chew toy."
mircea_popescu: eh dude just come out and say it already.
mircea_popescu: all this "look ma i got no balls" bullshit.
mircea_popescu: how do you expect to compete with me ? you're fucking old. what is this, begging for a burial ?
mircea_popescu: http://robertmcgrath.wordpress.com/2014/03/30/popescu-gives-high-class-narrative-of-why-dogecoin-is-a-scam/ << at least this scmuck with nothing to say understands who he should be saying it at (had he something to say). so far, andreesseen 0, anon schmuck with a blog 1.
assbot: Popescu Gives High Class Narrative of “Why Dogecoin is a scam” | Robert McGrath's Blog
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9813 @ 0.00082372 = 8.0832 BTC [+]
benkay: wow holy crap
benkay: and isn't it 'cold cock'?
mircea_popescu: usually.
mircea_popescu: spelling is racist nowadays, so whatevs.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo guy's in the team of "let's see if we can actually have a measurable impact on teh hated Bitcoin by lending our most valuable social-sciences-and-pointless-studies wisdom to dogecoin"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Oh, I'm reading such things http://robertmcgrath.wordpress.com/the-next-big-thing/bitcoin-vs-dogecoin-a-shallow-semantic-look/ << Guy studies CS, ends up attemtping semiotics
assbot: Bitcoin vs. Dogecoin: a Shallow Semantic Look | Robert McGrath's Blog
mircea_popescu: i suppose the results should be informative, for normally socialised individuals. we're dealing with idiots coming out of urbana however, so he's prolly still in denial about just how utterly he got humiliated over the past six months
mircea_popescu: but anyway, to make the point plain : the real world, practical value of a libertard, such as a liberal with a phd from urbana & his firends, is just about epsilon.
BingoBoingo: Urbana has to have one of the highest per captia populations of aspies in the world
mircea_popescu: one of my esl slavergirls can influence the future more than the entire troop of 'em.
BingoBoingo: slavegirl > Urbana Aspie > Andresseeeeeeeeen
mircea_popescu: funny how that works huh.
BingoBoingo: Not really.
BingoBoingo: It's just learning at work
BingoBoingo: Slavegirl is made to develop skills and competence. Urbana Apsie fumbles until he gets paper then pretends to be french. Andreeseeeessnsnesnsnensnes made netscape, got money, and spend the time after that accindentlying himself.
mircea_popescu: it's a theory.
mircea_popescu: so basically the progression is an approximation of "how many lashes"
BingoBoingo: Right. Urbana's dissertation is '05 so likely that is the last time he felt anything close to a lash. Anndruserrren Has well...
BingoBoingo: ;;gettrust ninjashogun
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user ninjashogun: Level 1: -1, Level 2: -3 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=ninjashogun | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ninjashogun | Rated since: Thu Jun 26 19:05:58 2014
mircea_popescu: "They spoke about the other students in Nerzhin's class, who had graduated on the day the war started. The most gifted had been killed or got shell-shocked - they were the ones who always rushed into action, without a thought for their own skins. Those of no promise were now either completing their post-graduate work or teaching in universities and institutes."
mircea_popescu: history repeating itself as it were.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00082003 = 10.0864 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00082392 = 19.5269 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 308395 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 52 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 hours, 49 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16798041980.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.7758
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00082394 = 2.2246 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: smartphone ?
kakobrekla: does it really look like a phone?
mircea_popescu: you know, fixed phone.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell asciilifeform get a load of this : google knows of a sergey and an andrey prokofyev. no alexander.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18358 @ 0.00082405 = 15.1279 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00082586 = 11.1078 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.0008264 = 11.3217 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19710 @ 0.00082659 = 16.2921 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.02079799 = 1.0399 BTC [+]
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