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TestingUnoDosTre: tried and it said key was already i use
TestingUnoDosTre: "this key is already registered under the server"
TestingUnoDosTre: database*
benkay: hey nanotube how does changing nicks happen
nanotube: benkay: just /nick <newnick> ?
benkay: alternatively, you could sign the new identity with the old identity's keys saying something along the lines of 'now doing business as' and then ask all your raters to rate your new nick
benkay: nanotube: in wot one cannot register a key to two nicks. how would one change one's wot nick.
TestingUnoDosTre: sign the new identity with old key?
benkay: /./?
benkay: well, rate it
TestingUnoDosTre: yah, thought of that
nanotube: TestingUnoDosTre: well, if you wanted to do it without my intervention, you can just change key on your old identity to some new key, then register the old key with a new nick. or... you could just ask me to change your otc username.
TestingUnoDosTre: WOT becomes the tangled web of trust
nanotube: hopefully not tangled :)
TestingUnoDosTre: ooo could you please change my otcusername to TheNewDeal
nanotube: ;;ident TestingUnoDosTre
gribble: Nick 'TestingUnoDosTre', with hostmask 'TestingUnoDosTre!~AndChat31@', is identified as user 'TestingUnoDosTre', with GPG key id DFBEC17DF96DFB77, key fingerprint 468950118F292A0AA73BCCC3DFBEC17DF96DFB77, and bitcoin address None
nanotube: ;;gpg info TheNewDeal
gribble: No such user registered.
nanotube: heh ok
TheNewDeal: Goodbye TestingUnoDosTre, hello TheNewDeal
benkay: ;;gettrust assbot TheNewDeal
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask TheNewDeal!~AndChat31@ Trust relationship from user assbot to user TheNewDeal: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Sun Apr 13 12:56:09 2014
TheNewDeal: ;;rate nanotube 1 wanted to have my gpg key applied to a different nick, helped me achieve in a timely fashion. Muchos gracias!
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user nanotube has been recorded.
TheNewDeal: nother follow up question
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00097439 = 5.2617 BTC [+]
TheNewDeal: if I go and register TheNewDeal_ under this nick, can I still ;;eauth as TheNewDeal?
nanotube: your irc nick is irrelevant, as long as you have the key for thenewdeal, you can auth as thenewdeal, even if your nick is benkay :)
TheNewDeal: so I could have authed as TestingUnoDosTre while I am thenewdeal, just have to be less retarded?
TheNewDeal: understanding now...
TheNewDeal: final question. How easy is it to get an online gambling license in Anitgua as a foreigner?
benkay: bahaha
TheNewDeal: anybody have some prime antigua connections?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0044445 = 0.1111 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2010 @ 0.00014741 = 0.2963 BTC [-] {3}
ozbot: Plastic Zerg, Laughing Protoss | When Bitcoin Met Pete
bitcoinpete: mostly a rehashing of mircea_popescu's latest, with an added starcraft race
bitcoinpete: aaand i'm out. cheers
TheNewDeal: condoms hould def be subsidized
BingoBoingo: !up AgentSmurf
assbot: Voicing AgentSmurf for 30 minutes.
AgentSmurf: where am i? what is this strange place? what is this sound? my own voice? eh..
BingoBoingo: Good Question.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00097205 = 4.5686 BTC [-]
fluffypony: and why am I holding all these cloves of garlic?
fluffypony: all these and many more questions will be answered in next week's exciting episode of
fluffypony: The Bitcoin Assets Playbook
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00097184 = 7.7747 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: !up jordandotdev
assbot: Voicing jordandotdev for 30 minutes.
benkay: !up soulblade738
assbot: Voicing soulblade738 for 30 minutes.
TheNewDeal: are beings becoming sentient in bitcoin-assets tonight?
BingoBoingo: Seems possible.
TheNewDeal: ;;google time value bitcoin
gribble: Bitcoin Charts / Charts: <>; Bitcoin Market Price (USD) - <>; Bitcoinity Markets - <>
benkay: a bitcoin today is worth how many bitcoin next year?
benkay: fundamental problem.
TestingUnoDosTre: say I want to invest 1 btc in a bitbet that will resolve jan 1 2015
TestingUnoDosTre: how much interest (in btc) should I need for a bet that resolves in half the time, to compare equally
TestingUnoDosTre: !up agentsmurf
assbot: Voicing agentsmurf for 30 minutes.
benkay: bitbet opened in january?
benkay: last january?
benkay: so 15 mos?
TestingUnoDosTre: jan 1 2015 is like 8 months from now
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.03585275 = 0.251 BTC [+] {7}
TestingUnoDosTre: so lets say I want to put 1 btc down on a bet that resolves 1 august 2014
BingoBoingo: It really depends on what you are betting on and who else might want to bet.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.03627054 = 0.3627 BTC [+] {10}
TestingUnoDosTre: lets just stick to the time value of having 1 btc locked up in a bet for 4 months vs 8 months
TestingUnoDosTre: do you know what I mean?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.0376818 = 0.4145 BTC [+] {11}
BingoBoingo: I'm not sure what you are trying to mean matters much.
TestingUnoDosTre: haha well I shall continue
BingoBoingo: If you want to lock up a bitcoin on Bitbet, the most important thing is having good information.
BingoBoingo: But yeah, continue
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.03872165 = 0.3485 BTC [+] {9}
TestingUnoDosTre: so If I'm going to buy a stock option that expires jan 1 2015 of company A
TestingUnoDosTre: let's say it costs $100
TestingUnoDosTre: and then I wait 4 months
TestingUnoDosTre: stock price stays the same
TestingUnoDosTre: but option costs $200
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.038999 = 0.429 BTC [+] {11}
benkay: i think the bitbet return betting the house line is about 0.5%/mo
TestingUnoDosTre: I did just read the article today
TestingUnoDosTre: very intruiging
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.038999 = 0.429 BTC [+] {11}
TestingUnoDosTre: but what I am asking is, what is the cost of locking up a bitcoin for a period of time
fluffypony: punkman: I was *so close* to pulling the trigger on that Montrex watch when I saw it, but I couldn't find anything open an "open source Suisse" movement on the web so I figured something was glad I didn't go for it
TestingUnoDosTre: because it seams to be negative
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.03899949 = 0.39 BTC [+] {8}
benkay: hah yes you do recieve a return for placing btc on bitbet
benkay: or you can i suppose
BingoBoingo: TestingUnoDosTre: Well, in this exercise are you betting both sides?
BingoBoingo: Or only the winning one?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.03936362 = 0.433 BTC [+] {9}
TestingUnoDosTre: you could be doing this with both sides if you wish
TestingUnoDosTre: ill try another example
benkay: think about it like this: bitbet pays you interest for providing liquidity
TestingUnoDosTre: lets say I'm betting both sides on two bets
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.03966867 = 0.3967 BTC [+] {8}
TestingUnoDosTre: I'll lay .5 btc on yes and no for bet 1 and bet 2
TestingUnoDosTre: bet 1 ends 4 months from now
TestingUnoDosTre: bet 2 ends 8 months from now
TestingUnoDosTre: what rate should I pursue (I realize I don't have a control in it), for the two returns to be "equal"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.03999973 = 0.32 BTC [+] {8}
TestingUnoDosTre: if it were in dollars
BingoBoingo: .5 on each side is probably a poor mix.
benkay: you can't guarantee a rate anyways, TestingUnoDosTre
TestingUnoDosTre: it's a thought experiment for jah's sake
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.03067661 = 0.1841 BTC [+] {3}
TestingUnoDosTre: my point is this
TestingUnoDosTre: if bet 2 had a return of 10%
TestingUnoDosTre: what would the return be for bet 1 to be equal to bet 2
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.03070893 = 0.6142 BTC [+] {12}
TestingUnoDosTre: the answer is, slightly less than 5%
TestingUnoDosTre: because you could (theoretically again), place another bet down, hoping for that same 4 month return, and you would equal the bet 2 return of 10%
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.03128571 = 0.219 BTC [+] {4}
TestingUnoDosTre: I'm not saying you would for sure win these bets. I'm asking, if you did win these bets, what would be the answer for a BTC scenario
BingoBoingo: Honestly given the type of site BitBet is, I would be more concerned with trying to win the bets outright instead of chasing a fixed return.
TestingUnoDosTre: bitbet is not really the point
TestingUnoDosTre: it's really any investment vehicle, denominated in BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.03202939 = 0.5445 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.03371137 = 0.2023 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3885 BTC [-] {3}
TestingUnoDosTre: For instance, if you were going to loan out 1 btc today to two people, one is going to pay you back in 4 months, the second in 8 months
TestingUnoDosTre: does anyone here catch a whiff of what I'm smoking?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.0331923 = 0.4315 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0337105 = 0.1011 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1942 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: TestingUnoDosTre: Sure
BingoBoingo: Just as soon as you disconnected returns over time from parimutuel betting.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 18 @ 0.03399998 = 0.612 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0337105 = 0.1011 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1942 BTC [-] {2}
TestingUnoDosTre: do you have an answer for me?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.03512634 = 0.7728 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.03543999 = 1.0632 BTC [+] {8}
BingoBoingo: Not really.
benkay: so you get n% per month
benkay: you get 4n% for gamble a
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0399999 = 0.16 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: 8n for b
benkay: nope. don't get it.
TestingUnoDosTre: i like where you're going
TestingUnoDosTre: but here's the thing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.06474168 = 0.4532 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0310062 = 0.155 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @ 0.04006201 = 0.5609 BTC [+] {8}
TestingUnoDosTre: if I could sustain any positive % earnings in BTC / unit of time, my wealth would be skyrocketing in some years time
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 23 @ 0.04033376 = 0.9277 BTC [+] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02910139 = 0.1455 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.000974 = 20.6488 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0290834 = 0.1745 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 17 @ 0.04086564 = 0.6947 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3885 BTC [-] {4}
TestingUnoDosTre: anyways, I must ponder this over a nights rest
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 12 @ 0.04098148 = 0.4918 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 27 @ 0.04098799 = 1.1067 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1295 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.040988 = 0.123 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.03543672 = 0.4252 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 32 @ 0.03543999 = 1.1341 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 21 @ 0.03574808 = 0.7507 BTC [+] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.03365846 = 0.2693 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.06474168 = 0.5179 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 33 @ 0.03596938 = 1.187 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0335 = 0.1005 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1942 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.04098481 = 0.2459 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 48 @ 0.04098944 = 1.9675 BTC [+] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 24 @ 0.04101997 = 0.9845 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0285509 = 0.1428 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.0421571 = 0.8431 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.02852509 = 0.2853 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.06474168 = 0.4532 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.04146274 = 0.1659 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1942 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4969999 BTC [+]
ozbot: Btcd + getwork + cgminer = profit | Conformal Systems, LLC.
benkay: hurrah for conformal
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.07050001 = 0.282 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.48983333 = 1.4695 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.073 = 0.73 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00097022 = 17.852 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.073 = 1.022 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.07013423 = 3.156 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 80 @ 0.06909641 = 5.5277 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.04278899 = 0.1284 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1942 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07318999 = 0.1464 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 42 @ 0.06474168 = 2.7192 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8095 @ 0.00097158 = 7.8649 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.06914674 = 1.3829 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.06853236 = 1.4392 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.48999 BTC [+]
ozbot: The dune buggy that can fly - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00097433 = 18.6097 BTC [+] {3}
fluffypony: want.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7658 @ 0.00097371 = 7.4567 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: mornin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.031 = 0.248 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.03450968 = 0.2761 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.06474168 = 0.5179 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1295 BTC [-]
fluffypony: kakobrekla: mornings
kakobrekla: how is it
kakobrekla: !up julles
assbot: Voicing julles for 30 minutes.
kakobrekla: !up TestNaut3
assbot: Voicing TestNaut3 for 30 minutes.
kakobrekla: !up Sorcier_FXK
assbot: Voicing Sorcier_FXK for 30 minutes.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5854 @ 0.00097123 = 5.6856 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28831 @ 0.00096961 = 27.9548 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 439 @ 0.000969 = 0.4254 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.06761351 = 0.2028 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03299069 = 0.2969 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.03487551 = 0.279 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.06474168 = 0.5179 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.03299081 = 0.2309 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.03322581 = 0.2326 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.06474168 = 0.4532 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol look what i've found
ozbot: Roba da ricchi pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18538 @ 0.00096933 = 17.9694 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13609 @ 0.00096868 = 13.1828 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 47 @ 0.005995 = 0.2818 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;rated artifexd
gribble: You have not yet rated user artifexd
mircea_popescu: ;;rate artifexd 1 Best story of a nick I ever heard.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user artifexd has been recorded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.06474168 = 0.6474 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [+]
jurov: hi mircea_popescu, deposits pls
jurov: !up ReturnOfTheOp if you insist...
assbot: Voicing ReturnOfTheOp for 30 minutes.
jurov: !up sunshyne
assbot: Voicing sunshyne for 30 minutes.
jurov: !up CheckDavid
assbot: Voicing CheckDavid for 30 minutes.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12960 @ 0.0009732 = 12.6127 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: jurov on it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4899 BTC [-]
ozbot: The idea for a great film… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: if anyone fancies himself a screenplay writer.
CheckDavid: Hey jurov thanks
CheckDavid: I have nothing to say though
fluffypony: Naphex:)
CheckDavid: Like there can’t be a larger binary digit than 1
CheckDavid: Does it translate to
CheckDavid: Higher decimal digit than 9 ?
jurov: !up Naphex assbot got resstarted
assbot: Voicing Naphex for 30 minutes.
ThickAsThieves: i propose a different ending for the movie mp
mircea_popescu: !up VanCleef
assbot: Voicing VanCleef for 30 minutes.
Naphex: ;;ident
gribble: Nick 'Naphex', with hostmask 'Naphex!', is identified as user 'Naphex', with GPG key id 64CDBADCE1E0BBAF, key fingerprint F3D76A985F5844814A93F46364CDBADCE1E0BBAF, and bitcoin address 12mVDqdWqFY6zrCqNqgHbxhDPB4ZVUuaTu
VanCleef: thanks
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves which ?
Naphex: i just got ident'd :p
ThickAsThieves: as it strikes me as imbalanced
VanCleef: yeh just reading the movie idea
Naphex: damn server splits
CheckDavid: That's some expensive vocabulary
CheckDavid: When I talk like that my friends
CheckDavid: Almost kill me
VanCleef: i think it would make a good tv show
CheckDavid: Like I am overcomplicated
mircea_popescu: tv show ?!
ThickAsThieves: the ending is the barbarian's own advisor, proposing and convincing him of his first laws of order (hinting at an eventual recreation of the original empire the movie started with)
mircea_popescu: but it has an event. how many episodes before, and how many after ? either way it's... two tv shows
CheckDavid: mircea_popescu: could I voice VanCleef in case he were not already voiced?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves nah. that's imbalanced. it proposes the idiocy is somehow okay.
mircea_popescu: CheckDavid but he is.
ThickAsThieves: no it proposes the order and chaos are cyclical
CheckDavid: Come on.
VanCleef: what's your set piece?
CheckDavid: Just tell me. Don't troll
mircea_popescu: VanCleef set piece ?
ThickAsThieves: (because they are)
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i guess it does that. and yes they are. but it ain't the political statement i wish to make :)
mircea_popescu: art is, after all, politics.
ThickAsThieves: it's the political statement i wish to make
CheckDavid: Ok I will test myself if you don't want to answer
ThickAsThieves: that your statement is no more "right" than the other
VanCleef: The term setpiece is often used more broadly to describe any important dramatic or comedic highpoint in a film or story, particularly those that provide some kind of dramatic payoff, resolution, or transition.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that's why you're in the marbles and i'm in the furs, because you actually believe that :D
ThickAsThieves: nah i'm just the delusionist
mircea_popescu: VanCleef indicated i nthe text by "This scene makes or breaks the whole film"
ThickAsThieves: i wear what suits you
mircea_popescu: CheckDavid oh i see now what you meant.
VanCleef: yeah i was thinking that when i read it
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot CheckDavid
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user CheckDavid: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 12:52:24 2014
mircea_popescu: CheckDavid no, you could not.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves lol
CheckDavid: Thanks mircea
CheckDavid: In Wisconsin, it is illegal to serve apple pie in public restaurants without cheese
CheckDavid: Nice contraband opportunity
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves btw, if it makes you feel better : <chetty> your movie needs a sequel <mircea_popescu> well sure. <mircea_popescu> you wanna make money, always leave room for a sequel.
VanCleef: you could just pay someone to write the script
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.48999 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i could. but i prefer to give someone the chance to write the script.
mircea_popescu: the greatness of money, you get to make choices and have preferences.
mircea_popescu: whoa look at that shit, equal character count!
mircea_popescu: !up CheckDavid
assbot: Voicing CheckDavid for 30 minutes.
VanCleef: who would be your target audience for this film?
VanCleef: bitcoiners?
CheckDavid: I wonder if one can get government funds to research and develop crypto currencies
ThickAsThieves: ah poop, your comment section stripped the handles
jurov: CheckDavid: there are plenty of bachelor/master theses on it
mircea_popescu: VanCleef or people whoi like alma-tadema, or people who like to see men get fucked, or w/e
mircea_popescu: i don't write for audiences.
jurov: it's certain they will continue with it
mircea_popescu: CheckDavid if you had read the logs, there was even a cushy us govt job offered.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves see now look what you've done!!1
mircea_popescu: it's anonymized
VanCleef: to be honest its a lil over my head, i hvave to read it a few times to fully understand it
VanCleef: i wanted to do a homage to 80's action films and do one about the most powerful groups of people that run the world today and they all work in this underground sex trade where they only use women as currency
mircea_popescu: why not have them fuck ductaped baby chickens, and use THAT as the currency.
ThickAsThieves: i'm gonna make a post in MY blog about the new ending, cuz apparently it's all the rage these days, blogging on top of what mp says ;)
mircea_popescu: what, you have a blog ?
ThickAsThieves: dude your memory
mircea_popescu: dude get out, do you even footnote ?
ThickAsThieves: trolling?
mircea_popescu: (i had that typed out :D)
bounce: ducktaped chickens, bio-fleshlights? the sheer depravity. minus personpoints for you!
mircea_popescu: no but i mean, if he's going for the outrage value, at least go all the way.
ThickAsThieves: i guess, in a way, my blog *is* your blog, since you sparked it
mircea_popescu: this is where i link that "all one" california soap nuttery
CheckDavid: mircea_popescu: offered here?
CheckDavid: Like a government official came here to offer it? Lol
ozbot: We’re all one pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
VanCleef: anywho yeh you should develop your story a bit more
mircea_popescu: that's the screenwriter's job.
mircea_popescu: i gave him some freedom implicit there, so his job doesn't suck
VanCleef: how much btc?
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, i don't even run a studio. chances are, it'll never get made anyway
VanCleef: that's okey studios pay like 50k just to own scripts and keep them under their desk
VanCleef: then they pay you more if they decide to make the movie
mircea_popescu: did you ever get paid 50k + more ?
VanCleef: i only wrote one script but i deleted it recently
mircea_popescu: right. so how'd you know ?
VanCleef: that's how it works in hollywood
ozbot: Harlan Ellison -- Pay the Writer - YouTube
mircea_popescu: and ellison has had a few scripts optioned, so i guess he'd know.
mircea_popescu: (also that's pre-crisis. it was way better then)
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bounce: 50k for 120 pages. hm. maybe worth a shot.
bounce: how to fill 120 pages worth of screenplay from irc logs? now there's a fiddy kay question.
mircea_popescu: bounce that's for believers. for engineers, it's 120 pages for a lottery ticket in an unauthorised lottery with an alleged cash prize of 50k (conditions apply)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 19 @ 0.032477 = 0.6171 BTC [+] {10}
VanCleef: i'm not an asshole, pay me mircea :P
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.03309964 = 0.4965 BTC [+] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 7 @ 0.14 = 0.98 BTC
mircea_popescu: this isn't so bad. minus the plastic stench ;/
VanCleef: ellison is right
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mircea_popescu: << total fucking good law. i want this on my books.
mircea_popescu: none of that soggy bullshit.
VanCleef: anywho this voiced stuff sucks
VanCleef: athero or whatever his name was had good wot ratings
VanCleef: just kick people or mute them if you dont want them to talk
jurov: [13:57] <mircea_popescu> jurov on it << dun see it
VanCleef: alot of scammers were using wot and had good ratings
mircea_popescu: jurov lol gimme a second.
VanCleef: wot is a fail
mircea_popescu: VanCleef you need to read the logs. this was discussed to death.
VanCleef: cant we just go back to how it use to be?
VanCleef: it was alot better
mircea_popescu: !down VanCleef
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ozbot: In the Spirit of the Devil’s Advocate, I Wear What Suits You
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mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i like the coloring.
ThickAsThieves: hopefully you dont mind being blue :)
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mircea_popescu: blue boy... that's what they callleeeed meeee
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00097164 = 20.4044 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: !up CheckDavid
assbot: Voicing CheckDavid for 30 minutes.
CheckDavid: Blue?
CheckDavid: You guys means this?
CheckDavid: I don't get why they are so skinny though
ThickAsThieves: 2 of the girls are aliens
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03243852 = 0.3244 BTC [-] {6}
ThickAsThieves: "This game is anticipated to be rate Mature" lol.
pankkake: mature as in milf?
mircea_popescu: no, mature as in heroin addict chicks.
mircea_popescu: what's with these people and body painting unhealthy looking women ?
mircea_popescu: whoa. panties on ?! omfg the indignity
pankkake: that was a tentative joke. anyway, have to agree on the trend of linking to trilema on every blog post
ThickAsThieves: i was more digging at bitcoinpete, mp's #1 fan
mircea_popescu: well what are you gonna do, ban me ? DO NOT HATE ME BECAUSE I AM BEEEEAUTIFULH!
ThickAsThieves: i'm just jelly!
pankkake: BingoBoingo and benkay are good at the game too
pankkake: though I actually read your first post thanks to a trilema pingback, so, it werks
mircea_popescu: pankkake do you like analytix the fuck out of those blogs ?
mircea_popescu: link count and everything ?
ThickAsThieves: even when we break out of the channel and its impossible log, we create a web of cross-referenced blogs to further fuck with newcomers
pankkake: I'm susbscribed to trilema comments so I see the links, that's all
mircea_popescu: oh i see
mircea_popescu: wait, you can still be subscribed to comments ? like via email ?
pankkake: but I rarely see this practice (linking to posts) nowadays, even though this probably gave the name to "blogosphere"
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pankkake: now it's all about CENTRALIZED platforms!
ThickAsThieves: because most bloggers have no friends
ThickAsThieves: not even internet ones
pankkake: I made friends by blogging!!
pankkake: GIRLS.
pankkake: well, girl
mircea_popescu: actually i link a lot.
mircea_popescu: i love linking. and i still believe in the old concepts of the web, from back like 1999
mircea_popescu: pankkake is she here ?
pankkake: web2.0 also had "semantic web" but it never really existed :(
pankkake: we don't talk anymore unfortunately
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mircea_popescu: "web 2.0" and all its associated bullshits lawl.
mircea_popescu: web 1.0 was and sitll is good enough. in the sense of way better than any walled garden bullshit.
pankkake: semantic web is all about urls and proper markup
ThickAsThieves: i saw someone use ethereum and the like as a Web 3.0 reference
ThickAsThieves: i almost died
pankkake: not 1MB of javascript
ThickAsThieves: maybe we'll just start calling generations that way instead of Generation X, it's Web 3.0!
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves im kinda curious how far the nonsense will go. specificaslly, if the comatose media-only "Web 2.0" will be forgotten and a new web 2.0 will be enacted, out of the same pressed shitboard,
mircea_popescu: or if they will take 2.0 as a thing that actually existed, and continue the count.
ThickAsThieves: i think itll get to 3.0 then go away
ThickAsThieves: 4.0 starts looking silly, even to idiots
ThickAsThieves: but i'm known for overestimating the idiot
mircea_popescu: you know knuth counted to pi.
mircea_popescu: wait wut
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ThickAsThieves: Brock Pierce, what a name
mircea_popescu: let me guess. yet another ex child actor turned bitcoin investiteur ?
ThickAsThieves: yep, Gyft
ThickAsThieves: and The Mighty Ducks
cazalla: for all of 10 seconds
ThickAsThieves: But the idea that underage boys were drugged and raped at the Encino estate, and sometimes threatened with guns by Collins-Rector, is hardly new. Egan was one of several young men to make such allegations in lawsuits filed against Collins-Rector, Shackley and Pierce 14 years ago -- court cases in which the plaintiffs won $4.5 million from Collins-Rector and Shackley by default because
ThickAsThieves: the trio had fled the country (Pierce reached a settlement).
mircea_popescu: so it'd be safe to say he was attracted to bitcoin by bruce wagner ?
ThickAsThieves: Pierce's most recent bio says he is co-founder of GoCoin, ExpressCoin, and Robocoin Asia.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if asicminer has figured out yet that it can probably make a decent penny selling such "board seats"
ThickAsThieves: GoCoin, isnt that the one all the SeedCoinFund people are butthurt about "missing" out on?
mircea_popescu: to celebrities desperate for retroactive "involvement" who still are noobish enough to imagine this will allow them to bypass the wot.
ThickAsThieves: i think the asicminer board is in an ill state actually
ThickAsThieves: they won't remove me from their email list so i still see hints of it
ThickAsThieves: participation appears to be low
mircea_popescu: well that's not really new.
ThickAsThieves: dividends moving to monthly
ThickAsThieves: shit like that
ThickAsThieves: yeah that's true, when i was there 10 people might show up, but only 3 or 4 ever talked
mircea_popescu: lol. ah if only they had enough sense to do what told a while back.
ThickAsThieves: now it seems only 4 show up an hour late to nothing
ThickAsThieves: The US economy created 288,000 jobs in April, the strongest monthly job creation since January 2012.
ThickAsThieves: "The one thing I would be careful with though is the decline in the unemployment rate, the decline in the unemployment rate was a function of the labour force falling by 806,000, that is gargantuan decline," he added.
mircea_popescu: people leave, what.
mircea_popescu: you want to leave, everyone you know here wants to leave, what's so surprising ?
mircea_popescu: a lot have left, a lot more are leaving and a helluva lot more will be leaving.
ThickAsThieves: well part of my dafuckness is how they are all "It's a flat out good report. All of the metrics that you want to see improve, did," said Tom Porcelli
ThickAsThieves: but then are like, well a million people left, so there's that
ThickAsThieves: left/died?
mircea_popescu: well... the reports that were made to make you feel good are made in the way that we agreed will make you feel good.
mircea_popescu: so why dont you feel good ? are you perhaps insane ?
mircea_popescu: it seems to me like this is slow onset schizophrenia, mydear boy.
ThickAsThieves: am i a terrorist?
ThickAsThieves: maybe xanax can sort me out
ThickAsThieves: the picture in the bbc article for it is awesome too
mircea_popescu: im kinda surprised nobody is selling slow-release xanax dildos yet.
ThickAsThieves: miserable dude in camo eating at the place he cleans shit
mircea_popescu: suckle your way to pleasant dreams
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.069 = 0.345 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: < i found an old english article! from 2009!
ozbot: Lectia de humor pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
asciilifeform: 'web 3.0' << 'i don't know what weapons ww3 will be fought with, but ww4 will be fought with bow and arrow'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform course the flaw there is to assume people whose tech is bow and arrow have the means to fight a Ww.
asciilifeform: well sure.
asciilifeform: but they might call it one.
mircea_popescu: and they probably will
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mircea_popescu: !up stickie
assbot: Voicing stickie for 30 minutes.
ozbot: The idea for a great film… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: answer't.
asciilifeform: i like this one more.
mircea_popescu: see, the importance of community in one's life.
assbot: [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 25000 @ 0.00021725 = 5.4313 BTC [+]
artifexd: ;;later tell jurov Do you round deposits down to the nearest btc?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: jurov and whoever else was waiting : mpex deposits flushed.
mircea_popescu: <<< me on blogging. "simple and efficient way to produce an excellent blog, step by step"
ozbot: O metoda simpla si eficienta de-a produce un blog excelent, pe pasi. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea
pankkake: if only it was written in a simple and eficient language
mircea_popescu: yeah i should have it translated.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.07087485 = 1.9845 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: ტ wow look at that, mouse glyph
mircea_popescu: ბ << fucktarded apple mouse glyph
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0691002 = 0.691 BTC [+]
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.0708904 = 1.914 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06910502 = 0.6911 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07087721 = 0.2126 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00097413 = 9.8387 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ბ is a mouse? looks more like 'anarchist bomb'
asciilifeform: and ტ is - power switch. aka 'the any key.'
Apocalyptic: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: ბ is a mouse? // looks like an apple to me
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00014696 = 0.2939 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: well it's the eye of the beholder!
mircea_popescu: !up rgbiv
assbot: Voicing rgbiv for 30 minutes.
ThickAsThieves: fwiw those characters appear much different depending on font in use
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mircea_popescu: hoiw are they in comic sans /
ThickAsThieves: “A lot of these things are difficult to verify or prove”
mircea_popescu: derpdesk ?
ThickAsThieves: coinhusk
mircea_popescu: "Valuable skills
mircea_popescu: So, who is Stefan Thomas, and why is he the person Powell called?
mircea_popescu: Thomas is Chief Technical Officer at Ripple Labs, a company that created its own payment protocol and prides itself on a transparent public ledger of transactions."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.60318124 BTC to 8`283 shares, 31428 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: how to be so wrong you have no idea of exactly how wrong you are : read coindesk.
mircea_popescu: and wired.
ThickAsThieves: i cant even understand how Ripple guy still gets play
ThickAsThieves: like no one *really* uses it right?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 85.30121001 BTC to 80`673 shares, 105737 satoshi per share
ThickAsThieves: and looking back at last year's AMS conference, he was pretty quiet on the panels
mircea_popescu: anyway, 5k words and no mention of the actual point this all started from.
ozbot: [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange Now Open with USD, EUR, BTC, LTC, XRP, NMC, XDG | Page 57 |
mircea_popescu: for the people keeping score at home.
ozbot: [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange Now Open with USD, EUR, BTC, LTC, XRP, NMC, XDG | Page 57 |
mircea_popescu: (dargo also quit, subsequently)
mircea_popescu: so that makes her 2 out of 2.
mircea_popescu: guess who's the expert in this story.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07094178 = 0.4966 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: how did he quit, he is still providing support
mircea_popescu: last seen on the forum what, late feb ?
mircea_popescu: support is one thing.
ozbot: [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange Now Open with USD, EUR, BTC, LTC, XRP, NMC, XDG | Page 93 |
kakobrekla: how about wednesday
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mircea_popescu: Dargo was last seen: Feb 27, 2014
mircea_popescu: whgat the fuck is this
ozbot: Dargo |
mircea_popescu: Last Activity: Feb 27, 2014 Joined: Jul 8, 2011 is what i get
kakobrekla: dat thing doesnt work
ozbot: View the profile of Dargo
kakobrekla: Last Active:Today at 02:45:22 PM
mircea_popescu: omfg i've been bambozled.
artifexd: Bloomberg is using Kraken as the source? WTF? They had less than 10btc of volume in the last 24 hours. Talk about a fucked up signal.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.071 = 0.142 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: yes but look at the logo
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell cevidad yo! there's some brokage in your forum.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: artifexd you obviously don't have the "valuable skills" to understand these things :D
artifexd: Apparently....
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07118799 = 0.3559 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: i think it's cevidad
Apocalyptic: <artifexd> Bloomberg is using Kraken as the source? WTF? << same reaction here
mircea_popescu: ;;seen cevidad
gribble: I have not seen cevidad.
mircea_popescu: ;;seen cedivad
gribble: cedivad was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, 43 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <cedivad> i actually have one, but i never really wrote about hashfast, or any other of my web-related experiences (i manage some really huge websites)...
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves dyslexia!
ThickAsThieves: dylsexia ftk
ThickAsThieves: you even beat me at self-deprecation
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07193999 = 0.6475 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: for the lol ? for the kelp ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07194 = 0.2878 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: for the loss
ThickAsThieves: for the kale
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07194 = 0.1439 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07194 = 0.2158 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: haha, cleaning old stuff and found a business plan i did to open a record store, i was pretty young obv: "XXXX XXXX will help me with of retail store's responsibilities. He is an extremely trusted friend and works very well with people. I whole-heartedly feel he is my best and favorite choice for the position."
ThickAsThieves: I kicked him off the project shortly after, and we nearly came to blows as roommates not long after that. I never got past writing the plan, thankfully.
fluffypony: old business proposals make me cringe
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mircea_popescu: you know i never wrote one ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0719399 = 0.1439 BTC [+]
fluffypony: I always enjoyed it as a way to cement my thoughts
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fluffypony: caption: "rioters trying to convince the police to install vlc media player"
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: lol nice
ozbot: Half of people living in Illinois and Connecticut want to get the hell out - Vox
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bitcoinpete: "Montanans, Hawaiians, and Mainers are least likely to say they'd want to leave, with fewer than one-quarter of those residents saying they'd move"
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mircea_popescu: fluffypony no, i meant as a kid. they do this "o write a business plan" many places.
fluffypony: oh lol
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07194 = 0.2158 BTC [+]
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.0730699 = 0.6576 BTC [+]
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 1000 @ 0.00135201 = 1.352 BTC [+] {2}
bitcoinpete: Now my posts are being translated:
Apocalyptic: nice bitcoinpete
bitcoinpete: Apocalyptic: hehe i'll take it
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ozbot: Trying something new. | Marie-Lynn Richard
bitcoinpete: "For a few months, I have been developing business relationships with people in Bitcoin. As with any of the communities I have joined and thrived in the past 25 years, I am paying my dues in Bitcoin by doing some volounteer work."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07331 = 0.2199 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: " So far my experience of Bitcoin has been rather sad. I received my first Bitcoin paycheck a few months ago and promptly lost 30% of it due to the dip. I was then almost unable to extract it from Vault of Satoshi because they stopped sending out checks. I was able to pay for my membership to Bitcoin Alliance and Bitcoin Foundation at least. "
bitcoinpete: more irlloling
fluffypony: why would she pay for memberships to the foundation?
bitcoinpete: pankkake: ya, her situation sounds crummy. i invited her here so maybe she can do something in the future
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: the poverty of altruism
fluffypony: !up MarieLynn
assbot: Voicing MarieLynn for 30 minutes.
fluffypony: MarieLynn: we've just been talking about you :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8843 @ 0.00096881 = 8.5672 BTC [-]
MarieLynn: uh ho!!
MarieLynn: Hi peeps!
bitcoinpete: MarieLynn: howdy!
fluffypony: so the "trying something new" post is the first post I've read on your blog
fluffypony: which is the case for mostly everyone here, I would imagine
fluffypony: can you give us a bit of background?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07331 = 0.3666 BTC [+]
fluffypony: (also I had to Google aspie polymath and file that under today's new learning:)
pankkake: surprising. perhaps because I know too much aspie polymaths :|
pankkake: (of the blog)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00097097 = 10.6807 BTC [+] {2}
MarieLynn: I have been transparent about my life on the Internet for almost 24 years
MarieLynn: Now I am being transparent abotu how hard it is to get into bitcoin and stay housed!!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1081 @ 0.0001436 = 0.1552 BTC [-]
MarieLynn: I am a lonely basement hacker. I build websites and online businesses.
pankkake: do you mean earn a living with bitcoin?
MarieLynn: But my entire life is online, what do you want to know specifically?
fluffypony: MarieLynn: nothing specific, and thank you - that was very enlightening :)
kakobrekla: ;;gettrust MarieLynn
MarieLynn: I currently work for Charlie Shrem but we are done with the urgent stuff. I want to continue doing what I do but for cool bitcoin startup.
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user kakobrekla to user MarieLynn: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: never
mod6: small typo: homoeless
MarieLynn: I am following the links ;)
pankkake: it's cheaper than the bitcoin foundation membership (free) and is actually useful :p
pankkake: the wot allows us to to useful things like:
pankkake: ;;rate -1 bitcoinpete spammer
gribble: Error: 'bitcoinpete' is not a valid integer.
pankkake: ;;rate bitcoinpete -1 spammer
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user bitcoinpete has been recorded.
fluffypony: kakobrekla: somehow I don't think bitcoinpete is profiting off his blog ;)
pankkake: ;;unrate bitcoinpete
gribble: Successfully removed your rating for bitcoinpete.
bitcoinpete: pankkake: well played
bitcoinpete: kakobrekla: i get it!
kakobrekla: im just busting balls mostly
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: not directly, of course
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: of course
MarieLynn: I am not a frequent user of IRC since 1997, sry
fluffypony: MarieLynn: also it seems you were spared by struggling to get verified on Cavirtex -
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07346744 = 0.2204 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: didn't they rip off their shareholders too?
bitcoinpete: pankkake: yup, they generally blow dead bears
BingoBoingo: CaVirtex just be ripping off everybody
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.07199213 = 1.2239 BTC [-] {4}
pankkake: MarieLynn: oh so the French on the blog is because you're from Canada. Tabernacle !
MarieLynn: My boyfriend has a gun license and apparently that got him validated. I only have provincial health card with photo and passport and thats not good enough.é
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07345505 = 0.2938 BTC [+] {3}
fluffypony: between Apocalyptic, pankkake, davout, and now MarieLynn (and who knows who else) I feel at such a disadvantage for not speaking French
MarieLynn: I want a bitcoin ATM card else my hopes of a bitcoin life are limited.
pankkake: fluffypony: your only play is to learn romanian and crush us all
fluffypony: hah hah
fluffypony: I'm too busy learning German so I can gossip with my mother-in-law about my wife ;)
bitcoinpete: et moi aussi!
fluffypony adds bitcoinpete to the list
pankkake: le complot français
MarieLynn: Thanks for the CAVirtex thread I will rad carefully. But what are the issues other than ID verification woes?!
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: i did a few german lesson on duolingo, orangensaft!
MarieLynn: my blog about crypto, has an english podcast as well.
bitcoinpete: MarieLynn: ripping off "investors" on havelock, joseph david being a stooge...
MarieLynn: Thanks for the keywords bitcoinpete
pankkake: well if you want to buy or sell bitcoins, you can use bitcoin-otc - of course, you're dealing with users directly, so you have to be careful *who* your are dealing with
fluffypony: MarieLynn: so since I live in South Africa I've also struggled with that - we only had 1 exchange (now 2) and their volumes are terrible. I can cash out from BitStamp to my bank account, but it is irritating. Two solutions I've found: 1. If it's bigger than $1k use BitPay. Sign up, get verified, and then invoice yourself when you need money paid out to your Ca bank account. 2. For smaller amounts, use person-to-person trading either on
fluffypony: Freenode in #bitcoin-otc (which also uses the WoT mentioned earlier) or on localbitcoins (you can arrange to meet people face-to-face, and lower your risk by not sending anything till you have cash-in-hand)
fluffypony: oh well pankkake already mentioned 2 :)
ozbot: Bitcoin Cafe in Limbo at Mt. Gox Building - Japan Real Time - WSJ
bitcoinpete: "According to people at the exchange, the 28-year-old Frenchman was slow to grasp Mt. Gox’s troubles. As recently as early February, he didn’t imagine most of the virtual currency possessed by Mt. Gox and its customers were gone, they say."
bitcoinpete: "Believing Mt. Gox’s troubles were manageable, Mr. Karpelès devoted much of his time to the bitcoin café"
bitcoinpete: and since when does karpelès have that accent in his name?
fluffypony: "It was to feature a rich menu of French quiches and coffee drinks"
pankkake: apparently scamming gets you on wikipedia
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete poor woman
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn wait, that's you ?
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> surprising. perhaps because I know too much aspie polymaths :| << too many, frenchie. much is for french fries :D
pankkake: Mark or Karpelès aren't very French looking name
pankkake: right
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: yup!
MarieLynn: mircea That's me what?
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: you mean his name isn't Ḱąȑṕệļễŝ? who knew.
MarieLynn: LOL fluffy
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn ok, so transparent about your life for 24 years ? gimme the highligts, how old are you, what do you do ?
mircea_popescu: !up trixisowned
assbot: Voicing trixisowned for 30 minutes.
bitcoinpete: "I have 246 cos in my database of bitcoin-related businesses and I did not know about that group :) IRC is so vintage!" -MarieLynn <<246 cos, guaranteed none on mpex
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.03399999 = 0.102 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: what's a cos, like cosplay ?
mircea_popescu: trixisowned soo... who owns ya ?
MarieLynn: I am 43, I have been developing for the Web since 1994
mircea_popescu: marie lynn who ?
MarieLynn: Google 'Marie-Lynn Richard'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5748 @ 0.00096945 = 5.5724 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: ;;google marie lynn richard
gribble: Marie-Lynn Richard | Social Media & Web Technologist ...: <>; Marie-Lynn Richard (mlrichard) on Twitter: <>; Marie-Lynn Richard - Canada | LinkedIn: <>
pankkake: "I'm thinking the program would upload the GPG private key in case you ever lost it" that? lol
mircea_popescu: what's a "Nillionaire" ?
pankkake: Nil-lionnaire
fluffypony: pankkake: "If not found then popup dialog asking for username/password & download GPG private key"
fluffypony: ah ok
fluffypony: so your GPG private key, the essence of securing your identity with GPG, is protected behind a mere username and password
fluffypony: sekuriteez
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn aite, well, welcome.
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: did he go on to create
mircea_popescu: you probably want to brew a gallon of coffees and go through the logs.
fluffypony: gin and tonic time
mike_c: or brew one cup and go through
MarieLynn: ;;gpg eregister MarieLynn 8DD69C90
gribble: Error: '8DD69C90' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> between Apocalyptic, pankkake, davout, and now MarieLynn (and who knows who else) I feel at such a disadvantage for not speaking French << nubbins.
MarieLynn: Thanks guys!
bitcoinpete: MarieLynn: don't mention it!
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: so when are we renaming the room #bitcoin-ásséts ?
pankkake: speaking of passwords, I'm slowly moving towards requiring more than a password everywhere to access my data
fluffypony: or #le-bitcoin-ásséts
Apocalyptic: sounds hungarian to me
Apocalyptic: (french don't have á )
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Probably around 1750 or so
MarieLynn: I want to join the WOT but I cannot find my long form id, it's in the friggin UBUNTU key server.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony i hate accents and shit. i write romanian without too
pankkake: MarieLynn: gpg -k --keyid-format=long (if you use the CLI)
MarieLynn: ;;gpg eregister MarieLynn 59748D208DD69C90
gribble: Request successful for user MarieLynn, hostmask MarieLynn!4a74bfc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip. Get your encrypted OTP from
MarieLynn: hey, it didn't complain :)
mircea_popescu: gpg --list-keys --fingerprint does the samer thing
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: it was une petit blague
MarieLynn: So are you guys here all the time? 24/7
fluffypony: !up MarieLynn
assbot: Voicing MarieLynn for 30 minutes.
pankkake: depends. logs are available by the way:
fluffypony: petite
MarieLynn: what does voicing mean? (remember no irc since 1997 here...)
mircea_popescu: !down MarieLynn
mircea_popescu: now you can't talk see ?
mircea_popescu: !up MarieLynn
assbot: Voicing MarieLynn for 30 minutes.
MarieLynn: sdds
pankkake: if the channel has the +m mode, only +v users can talk. otherwise, it's just vanity
MarieLynn: alrighty then :)
mircea_popescu: so basically MarieLynn is moiety in 20 years ? :D
MarieLynn: moiety?
fluffypony: "Mr. Karpelès purchased a $35,000 Backen pastry oven and a $23,000 La Marzocco coffee machine, say the people involved in the project. He also hired an independent pastry consultant and put a Tibanne employee full-time on the café project."
fluffypony: lawlicious
kakobrekla: this is a joke right?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla nah.
fluffypony: kakobrekla: how else do you start a Bitcoin café without a pastry consultant?
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn there's a chick here, by that name. she's in her 20s, tries to run online communities and also likes cats.
kakobrekla: fluffypony you got me there.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony no macarons tho. very scam, this french.
pankkake: ;;rate MarieLynn 1
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
pankkake: MarieLynn: you're missing the last step, decrypting the OTP, I guess
MarieLynn: Well awesome for her. When I was 20 I had to compase the facebook and photocopy it and send it through the regular mail :)
fluffypony: ;;ud compase
gribble: Google found nothing.
fluffypony breathes a sight of relief
pankkake: compile?
fluffypony: compose?
kakobrekla: compass
fluffypony: comp ass
mircea_popescu: < check it out, 1990s blog posts
ozbot: Marie-Lynn Richard | Social Media & Web Technologist / Entrepreneur / Mom / Crafty Bitch
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.07178681 = 1.0768 BTC [-] {4}
ozbot: Magazine Temps Libres | Marie-Lynn Richard
MarieLynn: These are entries from my project files :) I just imported those they are not yet correctly formatted.
mircea_popescu: "you love exploring the world but you got no money. what do you do ?"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07182659 = 0.5028 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: you'd expect "suck a mean cock", but no. "go to a museum"
ozbot: Behind the Scenes of the Original Face Book | Marie-Lynn Richard
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07100033 = 0.213 BTC [-] {2}
MarieLynn: Ozbot we are soulmates I guess
mircea_popescu: it's a bot, it reads the title.
fluffypony: or just put in your Encarta 1995 CD and browse
mircea_popescu: "What does a girls do when guys online keep asking for her photo?"
mircea_popescu: drops the s ?
MarieLynn: ;;gpg eauth MarieLynn
gribble: Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.03349723 = 0.1675 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn you have to register it with nickserv.
kakobrekla: he means gribble
pankkake: MarieLynn: you have to decrypt the OTP link it gave you earlier.
mircea_popescu: wait, she did that no ?
mircea_popescu: oh nm me.
mircea_popescu: well ok, off to show the girls caligula. laters.
MarieLynn: ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:a1338dc312fcbfa6cddc12fd4ccd03a73196ac87572155292907c7c8
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07343379 = 0.1469 BTC [+] {2}
gribble: Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user MarieLynn with key 59748D208DD69C90
pankkake: ;;rate MarieLynn 1
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user MarieLynn has been recorded.
MarieLynn: I used to compose/compile the facebook by hand and send it through snail mail
Apocalyptic: MarieLynn, everytime i read your nick it reminds me of Merrill Lynch
MarieLynn: Okay, I made my way through this WOT thingy !
pankkake: you should sue Mark Zuckerberg
kakobrekla: you are able to voice yourself now btw, by typing !up to assbot private chat, MarieLynn .
MarieLynn: Thanks pankkake
MarieLynn: I invented SEO too, just so we are on the same page LOL
ThickAsThieves: MarieLynn your blog lacks an Altcoin logo
MarieLynn: What do you mean, there are like 8 on the front page
MarieLynn: I am launching my own altcoin soon BTW
pankkake: no, Altcoin, the altcoin
ThickAsThieves: it's goal is to make all altcoins useless
MarieLynn: TaT, I will add it to my database. There are almost 700 coins in my friggin database.
ThickAsThieves: so everyone can focus on one altcoin, Altcoin
MarieLynn: Too many coins!
pankkake: hence Altcoin
ThickAsThieves: yeah you can get rid of the other Altcoins probly, would be much cleaner!
MarieLynn: I will look at it seriously promise. It's my self-imposed job to figure out all this
ThickAsThieves: you might enjoy the linked thread and other services on the home page
ThickAsThieves: no pre-mine!
MarieLynn: Well... There are useful alt coins or coins that have a very specific niche, I believe in those but the coingen copy paste alt coins is like vomit
kakobrekla: you guys are worse than traveling agents
kakobrekla: imma bbl.
MarieLynn: Our coin is going to be so unique, I am not even sure exchanges will touch it with a ten foot pole... Will be interesting
ThickAsThieves: well it's kinda hard to introduce ATC to someone
pankkake: I made a coin that no exchange touched
ThickAsThieves: and an investment fund no one invested in
fluffypony: PankkakeKoin?
MarieLynn: which one was it
pankkake: Bernankoin. they didn't touch it for good reason, it simply cannot have a non-decreasing value
MarieLynn: I am sure there are applications for our concept coin but so far it's just a surrealist coin R&D experiment.
fluffypony: someone should fork TimeKoin
MarieLynn: LOL great concept
MarieLynn: What does TimeKoin do?
fluffypony: MarieLynn: it's written in PHP
ThickAsThieves: waste time?
fluffypony: that should tell you everything you need to know
MarieLynn: hahaha!
MarieLynn: Do any of you want to co-found a 100% new coin concept? It's going to be super fun. Right now we need a crypto-educated developer (wallets) but the rest we have already written.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0734422 = 0.3672 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 76 @ 0.00599335 = 0.4555 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: 1 altcoin is already stretching the attention span
fluffypony: MarieLynn: unfortunately I'm a poor C developer
fluffypony: I'm much better at being an A to all the Ds on the forum
MarieLynn: Wouldn't that put you above the average alt coin developer Fluffy? :)
pankkake: eheh
pankkake: I learned truly nothing by altcoining. My code even made GCC emit warnings and I didn't care
MarieLynn: Is this a 24/7 thing or do you have mneetup times?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0319999 = 0.224 BTC [+]
fluffypony: but we're all on different timezones
pankkake: it's 24/7, but you can get a reply hours later. it's generally as everywhere on IRC
fluffypony: so it waxes and wanes
fluffypony: which is why everyone checks the logs -
pankkake: is getting interesting. there are still some strongly delusional people, but some others are actually considering doing SOMETHING (next page)
ozbot: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated]
pankkake: if the second ones get something out of the company, even at the expense of the firsts, I'd be happy
pankkake: and by expense I mean that when the first ones sue, there will be nothing left, not that they would have gotten anything by playing nice
fluffypony: ;;gettrust assbot MarieLynn
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask MarieLynn!4a74bfc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip. Trust relationship from user assbot to user MarieLynn: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Fri May 2 14:21:45 2014
fluffypony: MarieLynn: if you want to up yourself you can just message !up to assbot
fluffypony: pankkake: what's this 4 year investigation thing? playing catch up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00096945 = 7.6587 BTC [-]
pankkake: Missouri Securities Division sending the issuer a letter. not much more is known
fluffypony: interesting
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13063 @ 0.00096945 = 12.6639 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07230675 = 0.6508 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0721101 = 0.4327 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07344248 = 0.1469 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07155505 = 0.2862 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 10000 @ 0.00001261 = 0.1261 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.0009685 = 9.3945 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0733999 = 0.2936 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18450 @ 0.00097337 = 17.9587 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53200 @ 0.00096758 = 51.4753 BTC [-] {4}
MarieLynn: I am back
MarieLynn: Tx Fluffy
fluffypony: no problemo
thestringpuller: A female in #bitcoin-assets
thestringpuller: i'm sure mircea_popescu will be pleased
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07346722 = 0.2939 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: !jd MPIF
assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 163.71643613 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07346722 = 0.8816 BTC [+]
pankkake: I'd think b-a has a higher female ratio than most bitcoin channels
mircea_popescu: ;;rate MarieLynn 1 she's been failing at succeeding for decades now. that takes mettle.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user MarieLynn has been recorded.
kakobrekla: pankkake most = any
kakobrekla: prolly same goes for mps conf, but that is saved cause of the low attendance count overall :D
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> MarieLynn: unfortunately I'm a poor C developer << how da heck are you poor now.
thestringpuller: fluffypony can't get credit at < 20%
fluffypony: poor: "of a low or inferior standard or quality."
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> if the second ones get something out of the company, even at the expense of the firsts, I'd be happy << need a company first.
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> pankkake most = any << defo. there's what, like a dozen girls here.
fluffypony: thestringpuller: depends on the product, but for personal loans we get shafted here :/
MarieLynn: Mircea I've been succeeding at failing rather LOL :)
pankkake: I try to make my statements harder to contradict while keeping them provocative enough
kakobrekla: you mean you like to sound like a pussy
mircea_popescu: everybody fucking types faster than i can
mircea_popescu: i wonder if keeping both hands on kbd'd help
pankkake: that slander
mod6: im slow typer too :/
kakobrekla: i was accused of same, then told pussies have a big heart. so go with that.
mod6: haha
MarieLynn: Mircea, thanks for the Tweet. I used to buy a lot of art from Romania, I kept the cute export papers in French :)
mircea_popescu: pussies have a big heart because all the cocks coming in and out enlarge it in the end.
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn like what art ?
ozbot: Yo #bitcoin-assets, I put contrarianism in your contrarianism | pankkake
MarieLynn: Student art from an assistant professor. Most of it counts as cubist :)
pankkake: what's pussy about that?
mircea_popescu: nothing, really.
mircea_popescu: but I try to make my statements harder to contradict while keeping them absurd enough
pankkake: I thought your technique was to drown in words
pankkake: "let me tell you a story…" contradictor falls asleep, win by default
MarieLynn: Bacău mostly this one is my favorite piece of Romanian Art
thestringpuller: let me tell you a story about a henchman named speedy
pankkake: I just want to rotate it for some reason
ThickAsThieves: well you guys can blog about superiority, pankakke about inferiority, and i'll take ulteriority
pankkake: who will blog about seniority?
MarieLynn: Have fun rotating, there's a lot of kookey things goin on in there ;)
pankkake: oh it's a horse! of course, it's romanian
ThickAsThieves: isnt seniority superiority?
pankkake: unless it's senility
fluffypony: pankkake: did you just admit to being old?
ThickAsThieves: is there an iority for meta?
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: mediocrity
ThickAsThieves: was waiting for it
pankkake: I wouln't be considered old, I don't really like being old, but I feel old
kakobrekla: yeah well tell that to lampelina when she wants me to remove a spider or such.
ThickAsThieves: but now you're calling him a coward
ThickAsThieves: is there poster for that?
mike_c: no, non-gender specific insults are fine
pankkake: mike_c: that whole campaign… ugh :(
kakobrekla: yeah, well the stigma did not create itself
mike_c: pankkake: i know. the thought process of whoever wrote those.. it's painful to think about.
MarieLynn: Hey you guys, can you pause calling eact other pussies to look at another animal? :P
MarieLynn: I made a t-shirt
MarieLynn: Going into pre-order pretty soon. You like?
pankkake: nice
kakobrekla: bitcoin shitting duck?
ThickAsThieves: yeah it's neat
MarieLynn: It's a golden egg goose :)
kakobrekla: golden turdmeister is what i see.
MarieLynn: It goes with a feature article I am writing about a brain wallet we are trying to decrypt right now
kakobrekla: maybe im simpleminded
mike_c: no, that goose is definitely shitting bitcoin.
MarieLynn: well, yes, technically, these birds have only one hole so they are either turds or eggs LOL
pankkake: this is actually quite fascinating
mike_c: but geese don't lay eggs standing up
MarieLynn: Kinda goes with the story..
kakobrekla: the story of golden turd
ThickAsThieves: it's a superior goose
kakobrekla: bitcoin dev replies: "yeah but its still in beta you know!"
ThickAsThieves: it lays upright
MarieLynn: do you guys think bitcoins are golden eggs or turds?
ThickAsThieves: golden turds
thestringpuller: ;;google american dad golden poop
gribble: The Golden Turd - American Dad! Wiki - Roger, Steve, Stan: <>; The Gold Turd Returns - American Dad - Adult Swim Video: <>; Roger (American Dad!) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <!)>
MarieLynn: For me it's hard to know, there is always a fricking bitcoin dip right after I get paid!!
thestringpuller: you're doing it wrong
ThickAsThieves: i think bitcoins are just millions of satoshis in disguise
kakobrekla: MarieLynn stop getting paid already.
mike_c: you get paid in bitcoin? nice.
pankkake: well, don't get paid in bitcoin if you don't intend to hold, really
MarieLynn: I need the money dude I mistakenly thought that going into bitcoin would get me bitcoins... like more than 1 LOL
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pankkake: perhaps getting a good paying fiat job should be your immediate priority then
MarieLynn: I am still working fiat contracts.
MarieLynn: Difference is people will come to me without effort for fiat jobs but I have to wheel and deal like crazy for bitcoins with 22 year olds... it's not the same market.
mike_c: well, average in here is definitely > 22.
ozbot: [Cryptostocks] BBBB Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund
kakobrekla: wonder why he hid his name ?
pankkake: yes, well; keep the fiat jobs, buy coins / create the right bitcoin market for you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.07346721 = 3.306 BTC [+] {4}
pankkake: average on bitcointalk is probably <22 :(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.07383692 = 1.2552 BTC [+] {3}
pankkake: kakobrekla: Garett McBurger?
kakobrekla: and im John Travolta ?
Apocalyptic: kako, are you saying you're not ?
MarieLynn: I have decades of project and staff management experience so I do not expect to work in bitcoin as a developer. Bitcoin needs leadership and guidance for its 22 year old employees!! I have lots of experience developing talent 19-25
kakobrekla: no no nevermind i said that Apocalyptic .
kakobrekla: well MarieLynn get them to write spec
ozbot: Twitter / MikeyMehedin: @Josh_Wise @dogecoin @reddit ...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.07214738 = 1.5872 BTC [-] {4}
kakobrekla: isnt nascar like the idiot central
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.07202477 = 2.881 BTC [-] {6}
bitcoinpete: kakobrekla: a very specific subset of them, southern amuricans
ozbot: Poor and Stupid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.072 = 0.144 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: more interested in drive-thrus, segregation, and surviving hurricanes than crypto
kakobrekla: i guess i should watch that.
kakobrekla: sp episode, not nascar racing.
mike_c: hmm.. it's always scary when you build something semi-complicated and it just works the first time.
mike_c: must be missing something..
kakobrekla: give it some time to break.
pankkake: it's never working the first time. you just haven't found where it goes wrong
asciilifeform: mike_c: obligatory naggumism:
ozbot: Re: Is LISP dying? - Naggum cll archive
mike_c: can naggum say anything in less than 1000 words?
asciilifeform: mike_c: well, eventually he got down to 0 words.
asciilifeform: (cheated. kicked usenet habit, a few yrs. before he died)
mike_c: i agree with naggum in a lot of ways, but i ended up in python instead of lisp. i was just writing a C module for python and it was a brutal reminder of much time and energy is spent making sure i didn't miss dereferencing something in some random error case that would cause a leak, etc.
kakobrekla: !up tris
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bitcoinpete: "Consider how the Catholic Church might have mitigated some of the deep pain caused by its abusive priests had it acted with the kind of boldness shown by N.B.A. Commissioner Adam Silver. Instead, it chose cover-ups, denial and blame shifting — the usual default modes for institutions trying to protect themselves." << default of institutions that last
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MarieLynn: I am really glad unpaid athletes are getting national attention for their cause. They get tuition but no time to study... dumb...
asciilifeform: MarieLynn: no time to study << at american unis, there are special fake classes for athletes. with no attendance checks, homework, or exams...
MarieLynn: I know...
asciilifeform: their existence in at least one is a proven fact
thestringpuller: MarieLynn: decades of experience?
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thestringpuller: you been working since you were 10 or something?
pankkake: is there anything to learn in college anyway? :)
asciilifeform: i learned some maths
asciilifeform: can't speak for others
asciilifeform: there are also useful things that one can pick up, like the art of working with your head for a week straight without sleep.
asciilifeform: but it is not strictly necessary to attend college to learn this.
MarieLynn: 20 years in what I do now
pankkake: higher education has been a interesting experience, but I could have skipped (and did) most classes
MarieLynn: I started in Web in 1994, I was only 23.
asciilifeform: what in web ?
MarieLynn: Before that I was a tour guide across North America, I started at 18. And a nanny too :)
MarieLynn: I do everything in Web. I have held all the jobs!
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MarieLynn: I've dropped out of college TWICE!!
MarieLynn: But I was in all the committees at college, no time for class.
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bitcoinpete: college is best used as a dating service
bitcoinpete: nothing else creates collisions like college does
pankkake: it made a way more social person, for sure. that and alcohol
pankkake: MarieLynn: you really do ALL THE THINGS!!
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bitcoinpete: "You may think that walled-garden access to Facebook or Google is inferior to neutral Internet access—and you’d be right. But if the neutralistas got their way, people in developing countries wouldn’t have better Internet access; many of them would have nothing"
bounce: I'm not sure that's a valid premise
atcbot: 33k@225 23k@224 6k@223 | 2k@170 90k@156 10k@155
bitcoinpete: "Net neutrality, in other words, would not only keep the poorest offline, it would keep investment in poor-country telecom infrastructure down for longer."
bitcoinpete: bounce: it's nonsense
bitcoinpete: helping the poor with us gov corps isn't helping them at all
ozbot: Loper OS » “The Internet of the Future”
asciilifeform: ^ where we're going
asciilifeform: after the fud-artists are done
Duffer1: neutralistas lmao
asciilifeform: that turd includes at least one outright lie
asciilifeform: amazon's 3g gadgets access the standard net, for no extra cost
asciilifeform: just, very slowly.
asciilifeform: the way i understand it, aol, compuserve, et al. died a very deserved market death
asciilifeform: but now the 'walled garden' idiots want to replay the match
asciilifeform: with captive audiences
asciilifeform: because these are the only kind where the shit might fly
asciilifeform: living in usa, i admit i'm rather surprised that it is 2014 and i'm not yet forced to pay $500/mo to get something other than ArsebookNet
asciilifeform: arsenet is coming, because the average luser doesn't really insist on being able to open an arbitrary tcp connection from wherever to wherever
asciilifeform: so long as arsebook, skype, etc. work
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BingoBoingo: If the choice were between arsenet and Dial-up, I'd probably choose dial up
asciilifeform: hell, 300 baud
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asciilifeform: paradoxically, a return of the era when you must beg/borrow/steal genuine net access from employers, universities - could actually end 'eternal september.'
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asciilifeform: and wonders like fidonet will return from the grave.
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asciilifeform: it won't be as easy as the first time, though
asciilifeform: over here, many houses had their land line copper (illegally) torn out
asciilifeform: by the fiber folks
BingoBoingo: I once produced a version of a web site I ran as a gopher site, in 2011, Library school project
MarieLynn: I miss FidoNet :)
MarieLynn: Went to a FidoNet Con last year :)
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asciilifeform: in usa, the copper lines are regulated under the terms of the at&t divestiture
asciilifeform: and the local carries have destroyed as many of them as they could get away with
ozbot: Nasty Security Flaw In OAuth, OpenID - Slashdot
pankkake: another one?!
asciilifeform: for example - moving into new house, i discovered a dangling stub where the old 'bell atlantic' copper ought to be.
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asciilifeform: gone from the house, and from the pole.
asciilifeform: nobody gives a damn, at present, because we all love fiber
asciilifeform: but it could convert to ArseNet overnight.
BingoBoingo: Shame encryption on Amateur radio frequencies is a crime.
BingoBoingo: 2 meter band could make for some nice mesh networks
asciilifeform: copper is expensive - not merely the metal, but maintenance - keeping water out of the cable ducts, etc. the telcos would hurry to be rid of it even the removal did not speed the arrival of arsenet.
pankkake: and keeping the romanians from stealing it
asciilifeform: in a traditional telco plant, there are giant air dryers, blowing into ducts, to keep positive pressure
asciilifeform: my understanding is that these, at least where i live, and in a number of other places, have given out - and never replaced
asciilifeform: instead, there are tanks of co2 chained to poles here and there
asciilifeform: the one on my street emptied out a few years ago
asciilifeform: never once replaced.
asciilifeform: eventually, the one or two remaining copper subscribers will complain. and perhaps it will be re-filled. or not.
BingoBoingo: All of the good technologies come with expiration dates.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: Shame encryption on Amateur radio frequencies is a crime << eventually, u.s. folks who want genuine net will need to commit this - or some other - crime.
asciilifeform: and, given that 'one may as well hang for a sheep as a lamb,' why stick to only 2m.
asciilifeform: plenty of quiet spectrum, there for the taking, esp. if one only needs a few km of range.
BingoBoingo: Very good point. I supposed 2m because it is just so common.
ThickAsThieves: lordy, the forum and bitpay wanna move the bitcoin decimal to two places
asciilifeform: the correct way to do 'pirate radio' net is - frequency hopping 'spread spectrum.' meet the other local node people in person, to agree on a key.
BingoBoingo: Fuck them. The decimal can move two spaces to the left
ThickAsThieves: how do they not see that an arbitrary change will only cause confusion and likely fail at being adopted
asciilifeform: folks who like to eat shit - can eat it. others will continue to eat food.
joecool: pankkake: you're thinking georgians, they'll cut into anything remotely resembling a wire, source:
asciilifeform: in usa, desperados are attaching trucks to hv cables and driving off.
pankkake: yeah, I know that story. copper stealing is a worldwide plague done by various people
BingoBoingo: Yeah. Optic net is also a possibility. Fiber without the fiber.
pankkake: and some don't even know how to spot copper and cut the fiber
asciilifeform: in a functioning empire, the penalty would be - sizzling in the electric chair. right there, in the bed of a specially-built police truck.
asciilifeform: but see mp's story of the last emperor.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: optical line-of-sight would work well in places other than usa - ones where people still live in cities
joecool: lasernet
asciilifeform: (can easily think of creative penalties for buyers of stolen copper. say, hanging with same stolen cable. on a hv mast.)
joecool: my state had a unique copper problem
asciilifeform: sorta like how, in old scotland, they had a contraption very similar to the later guillotine - 'scottish gibbet' - where a cattle or horse thief would find the animal he stole attached to a rope, which pulls out the peg, blade falls.
joecool: we kept getting floods so people threw out things like refrigerators (with coils)
joecool: the municipalities though would sell scrap licenses for these discarded items and arrest anyone who picked it up without a permit
asciilifeform: hard to think of how else the crown could distinguish between legit and thieving metal recyclers.
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: the adoption argument is that it seems "more like a currency" because we're used to 2 decimal places, and most account software can't work with more than 2 anyway
asciilifeform: refrigerators, unlike cars, don't come with legal titles
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Have the accounting software work satoshis then.
asciilifeform: and once it is melted down - metal is metal
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: well, yes, that's exactly what's been suggested
fluffypony: and ignored
joecool: fluffypony: well could adopt the tonal system and TBC like Luke-Jr wanted :P
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: True. Picking the radio bands over US style distances presents challenges though.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: real time tcp/ip, over 1000s of km, for millions of people - is a luxury.
asciilifeform: a usenet-style system, where messages might resort to travelling in a truck full of disk, seems inevitable in a scenario like this.
ozbot: Home
BingoBoingo: Of course. Stationwagon net is always an option.
joecool: 1000's of km? gonna need relays or a signal that can bounce
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bounce sets joecool on fire
asciilifeform: anything that transmits over 1000km is a fat target.
bounce: usenet? can start with resurrecting uucp (or fido)
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asciilifeform: bounce: resurrecting fido << see the point earlier about the destroyed 'bell' copper in usa
asciilifeform: i, for one, have no copper phone line, and know no one who still does
bounce: there's some interesting digital modulations about. if I ever get around to a HAM licence I'd probably still dump crypted data on the wire along with a readable call sign
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bounce: who says fido depends on copper?
asciilifeform: bounce: the other hams will eagerly turn you in
joecool: lol yeah cannot do that :P
bounce: who's to know? I'm doing experiments with me mate
bounce: "yeah new modulation guv"
asciilifeform: bounce: it relies on some reasonably general-purpose channel, of whatever bandwidth
BingoBoingo: bounce: HAMs tend to be a territorial and snitchy bunch
bounce: one option might be to get a boating radio licence. they're already throwing packet over those frequencies for email-to-boat
asciilifeform: in usa at least, 'hams' know that they live at the pleasure of the crown, various folks are always hungry for their spectrum pie
asciilifeform: so they eagerly rat out violators.
artifexd: ThickAsThieves: Had it been done at the beginning 1mn satoshis to the bitcoin would have made more sense. That would have made 2.1 billion bitcoin in total and maybe that number would have made people register that 21 million was not an arbitrary number and making coins with more is just a fucking headache.
bounce: well, then forget about the licence and go entirely pirate with a spread-spectrum frequency-hopping whatever construct.
asciilifeform: bounce: suggested earlier. and, of course, by many other people, in the past.
bounce: or stick to linking up wifi nodes with dish antennae. that goes a while too.
bounce: the thing there is that you need ready access to hardware, or at least schematics simple enough for the hobbyist to cobble together.
bounce: doesn't have to be very efficient. ttl everything will do as long as it works.
asciilifeform: the point i wanted to make was that anything other than a very broad, military-style spread spectrum setup, with hop keys exchanged in person, is simply a beacon for the gasenwagen.
joecool: 20-30mi with 5GHZ line of sight is feasible, i used to live on a mountain and experimented with some pretty long links
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joecool: there's a site you can use to check what mountains are in the way
asciilifeform: good luck setting up a line-of-sight anything in u.s. suburbia.
fluffypony: joecool: lol
joecool: asciilifeform: need height
fluffypony: joecool: we should suggest TonalDogecoin
bounce: put up a mast?
fluffypony: see how it goes down
joecool: again, a mountain helps a lot
asciilifeform: put up a mast << might as well hoist a black flag on same mast.
joecool: i had a 30mi clear shot from my back deck of old house to an observation deck @ a state park
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> "let me tell you a story…" contradictor falls asleep, win by default << o lies and slander. my stories kick ass
jborkl: < see how well bitcoin investigations go
asciilifeform: i dare to invoke the 'parachute theorem,' and say that the time to build comm infrastructure out of the real (or imagined) control of the crown is now, and not when it becomes a dire necessity.
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> yeah, well the stigma did not create itself << stigma means, of course, a stain.
bounce: so get cracking.
asciilifeform: and to think that it is purely an 'american problem' - is a mistake.
bounce: ;;google mesh potato
gribble: Village Telco » Mesh Potato: <>; Village Telco » Mesh Potato: <>; Mesh Potatoes - Village Telco Store Village Telco Store: <>
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> maybe im simpleminded << buzz off. next you're going to claim you're psychopath too ?!
asciilifeform: if you're 'meshing' with consumer hardware, on fixed, documented frequencies - you're a target.
bounce: bunch of those would be a convenient start. though I really would prefer a nice high gain omni on top.
asciilifeform: if you're pumping out kWatts of whatever, wherever - you're a target.
bounce: it's a proven design. now move the radio to some neverland(, and see which military outfit shows up)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you are mistaken in the following sense : i ruled, undisturbed, undisturbable, before the internet was invented.
mircea_popescu: should a government - any government - take things back to that level, it'd be to their detriment, not to mine.
mircea_popescu: the jury's still out on the topic of whether they can win 2014. the jury however is not out on whether they can win 1994.
mircea_popescu: that's soundly decided.
BingoBoingo: bounce you know a number of missile targeting systems seek RF emissions.
asciilifeform: seems like we're in for an eternal rematch of 1994
bounce: once "TSHTF" enforcement agencies will become haphazard in their actions, so nicely spread out stashes would help a lot
mircea_popescu: i couldn't be better served.
asciilifeform: how many of us expected the key escrow crap to slip right in the second time?
mircea_popescu: what second time ?
asciilifeform: let's say '04, to make it nice & round.
bounce thinks the discussion is not constructive. anybody recall why the internet is structured like it is? because it can withstand damage and route around it.
asciilifeform: bounce: you're thinking of arpanet
joecool: asciilifeform: why not use existing infrastructure, figure out how to inject a signal into powerline
mircea_popescu: bounce used to. meanwhile shit like apple happened.
asciilifeform: joecool: ever tried this personally?
asciilifeform: goes great, until first transformer.
bounce: the goal isn't to cook up an invulnerable system. the goal is to cook up a resilient system. ten different systems working together would be even better.
asciilifeform: bounce: original design was to resist nukes, rather than a million squads of dutiful monkeys in vans
joecool: asciilifeform: yeah i knew that much, but could still use HV lines to go a distance, no?
asciilifeform: it would be interesting to study the design of 'Gladio' radio sets - made for stay-behind partizans in nato europe
bounce: shit, do fido or uucp over long-range bluetooth for all I care. with nodes hid in stones.
asciilifeform: some of these have popped up on surplus market.
mircea_popescu: lol kako, bbbb still derping on ?
ozbot: Q15X25 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu , proudly.
joecool: asciilifeform: the idea would be to mesh a town, and use HV lines to link to other towns
joecool: (in theory)
ozbot: These fucktards have to be immortalised, they’re worse than Dr. Foreskin even pe Trilema - Un blog
mircea_popescu: related.
kakobrekla: thats not him
mircea_popescu: surf capital ? o yes it is.
asciilifeform: joecool: HV lines to link to other towns << works, until the king's men 'helpfully' install filters
mircea_popescu: "The Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund (BBBB) initiated a position in the Neo & Bee Payment Network (Havelock: NEOBEE) on 03/07 buying 18 shares. The fund will continue to increase this position in the near term. I love the tangibility of NEOBEE’s assets. They have brick and mortar branches and will be providing vital financial services to an area that has traditionally been “under-banked.” I must note, however, there
mircea_popescu: is substantial political risk with this investment. We, as investors, do not know how the Cypriot government will act toward a new financial institution like this. This is especially true given the political turmoil occuring in Ukraine and the Crimea region."
asciilifeform: 'against transients caused by Klimate Change'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how do these "king's men" communicate ?
mircea_popescu: how does the king prevent them from working for me ?
asciilifeform: lol - that's step 2 of the game.
mircea_popescu: you imagine this situation of perfect loyalty and imperfect communications.
bounce: what'd be the most widely available stuff that does ssb? I'd expect 27mc. which, since there's lots of crap going on there anyway, wouldn't be a bad band to use
asciilifeform: would be nice to see the transition to step 2 sooner, rather than later
mircea_popescu: such a thing is nonsensical, much like any scenario breaing thermodynamicsa.
mircea_popescu: but the transition happens in its own time for its own reasons, you see.
mircea_popescu: that's why it's cheap and effectual : we don't seduce women, we just deign to notice the ones that've seduced themselves already.
jborkl: you cant tell me they really referenced BTCjam on credit ratings?
mircea_popescu: jborkl i can and i do.
kakobrekla: different thing.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla the article says x is worse than y. thus it's about x, not y.
jborkl: well, I guess people really refernced spongebobs bestie too
jborkl: sp
jborkl: Maybe Patricks Foreskin investment total return fund
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you imagine this situation of perfect loyalty and imperfect communications << point! the buggers are spotty even at using rsa. how do you say 'funkspiel' in english?
kakobrekla: ok i have no argument about that.
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> must be missing something.. << or you've just been touched by the gods for once.
mircea_popescu: !up tris
assbot: Voicing tris for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: funkspiel. радиоигра. english == ???
asciilifeform: ;;google funkspiel
gribble: Funkspiel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <>; Funkspiel Zwickau [NONG: Funkspiel] TeamSpeak - LIVE view ...: <>; Werbevideo vom Funkspiel-Flughafen-München - YouTube: <>
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete> <<< lmao they say that as if it were somehow a good thing. lulzy shit.
ozbot: Gladio
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: yes - them.
mircea_popescu: i think you must wreite it like GLADIO
mircea_popescu: i noticed that is how you must write everything about these things
BingoBoingo: Interesting hardware ascii
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you study the other exhibits on that site, you will learn that even 1950s soviet 'spy radio' designers understood that one must send very rare messages, in the shortest possible bursts
mircea_popescu: <MarieLynn> Before that I was a tour guide across North America, I started at 18. And a nanny too :) << now how do you figure that being a tour guide and a nanny transitions to providing leadership services for the world's most important project ?
ozbot: Gladio
asciilifeform: russian sets of that period came with hole punchers (similar to the ubiquitous hand-cranked office label printers)
kakobrekla: i already gave her instructions
jborkl: You get to listen to a bunch of titybabies cry all day?
asciilifeform: punch holes in ordinary 35mm film, feed into machine later
asciilifeform: this was mainly from a shortage of master 'morsemen'
mircea_popescu: <bitcoinpete> But if the neutralistas got their way, people in developing countries wouldn’t have better Internet access; many of them would have nothing" << omfg who the shit cares about the poor, what sort of braindamaged argument is this.
mircea_popescu: eat the motherfucking poor.
bounce: hah, double post. n'mind then.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yeah im like behind
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they include 'for the good of the poor' in any official proclamation now. as in 'the good of the proletariat' and whatnot.
bounce: it'd be useful to have a bursting service on your radio
mircea_popescu: and i can't catch up because you're all into explody talkmode
kakobrekla: wait lemme +m
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pretty much exactly. which is why a lot more "fuck the poor, they're less than dirt" needs to be stated explicitly.
mircea_popescu: otherwise the general fucktarded populace may end up confused, cause they're simple signal processors.
mircea_popescu: they keep hearing "coca cola is a drink" they end up thinking it's a drink.
mircea_popescu: retarded shit like that.
asciilifeform: eat recycled food!
asciilifeform: it's good for the environment - and ok fer you!
bounce: soylent brown
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> living in usa, i admit i'm rather surprised that it is 2014 and i'm not yet forced to pay $500/mo to get something other than ArsebookNet << i think they're running way behind schedule.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> and wonders like fidonet will return from the grave. << where do you think you're now ?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony lmao "chinese rules". i dunno dood, afaik the chinese are the most druggy whoring of the whole lot.
bounce: that oauth hole isn't really fixable, is it?
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> lordy, the forum and bitpay wanna move the bitcoin decimal to two places << enemies of the people.
fluffypony: bounce: not without whitelists
mircea_popescu: bounce indeed.
mircea_popescu: !up SuchWow
assbot: Voicing SuchWow for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: fucking broken by design "security"
ozbot: Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: I've ...
bounce: superfluous apostrophe is superfluous
mircea_popescu: <joecool> the municipalities though would sell scrap licenses for these discarded items and arrest anyone who picked it up without a permit << fucking outrageous. selling licenses on MY trash ? heh.
fluffypony: SuchWow: unusual seeing you here
joecool: mircea_popescu: yeah, the same logic applies on recyclables
SuchWow: Thanks, first I've heard of the chan :)
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> and ignored << just because some inconsequential idiots a la bitpay & the forum are herping away dun mean anything's been ignored. you can't ignore the judge, or the bullet.
Namworld: Move decimals to two places? You mean as in making 1 BTC = 100 satoshi?
fluffypony: Namworld: yes
fluffypony: how are they feeding values in to an accounting system anyway?
fluffypony: by hand?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo> bounce: HAMs tend to be a territorial and snitchy bunch << only because no real political pressure has been applied to them yet, because nobody gave a shit. normally the sewer rats are also a snitchy, territorial bunch. nevertheless, nobody in the lower east side would talk to a cop, pre ww2.
fluffypony: coz if it's programmatic they should be working in satoshis anyway
mircea_popescu: they prolly don't know about this, or anything else.
Namworld: What? That's retarded. We'd end up with 2000 BTC to the dollar and a shitload of BTC. Plus that wouldn't change anything at all, actually.
mircea_popescu: heck, they probably have bitcoin defined as a real.
mircea_popescu: Namworld they imagine it'd make more noobs buy, and so make their worthless holdings worth somerthing.
mircea_popescu: because they imagine bitcoin is a consumer affair
mircea_popescu: because they're braindamaged.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony who's he ?
Namworld: Plus you know a few places would scam people "We only owe you X BTC" and the generic moron would go "I knew it, BTC under 1 dollar by the end of the year."
fluffypony: who's he who?
Namworld: Plus much derping around.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> good luck setting up a line-of-sight anything in u.s. suburbia. << why ?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony the SuchWow guy.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: oh, he's an op in #dogecoin
SuchWow: I hang out in a large number of bitcoin and dogecoin related chans
mircea_popescu: Namworld i can see that, yeah. there's nothing like "confusion" when the "confused" stands to make a buck from it.
SuchWow: Looking through your websites now, very impressive info.
Namworld: Go in suburbia, stand any random spot, look around. Line of sight to plenty of solid points will be found. Get creative. (Are we still talking about creating a comm mesh?)
mircea_popescu: one of the many threads but yes.
mircea_popescu: you can have flying objects in suburbia, you can definitely have stuff hid inside tree tops, etc.
mircea_popescu: so trendon shavers managed to funel ~70k through his paypal account. to which paypal gave no trouble at all. why aren't they co-defendants in his case ?
mircea_popescu: because his lawyer is fucktarded that's why.
mircea_popescu: 11k for gas and groceries. and then they claim no inflation eh ?
mircea_popescu: "proceeds on btc sold : 600k. trading losses, 150k. net 450k" heh.
mircea_popescu: he's almost as bad as the forum average, 25% loss over a year.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: treetops, flying machines parked on office roofs, charging solar, etc. - sure. line of sight to a friendly window, city-style - not likely.
mircea_popescu: well that all depends, i guess. what's to keep you from cutting a square foot window in the tree ?
mircea_popescu: put a glass panel in your fence ?
asciilifeform: what's to keep the stoolies from using their eyes?
mircea_popescu: how many stoolies, how many eyes and who;'s going to derp on your land ?
mircea_popescu: maybe they get shot.
mircea_popescu: accidents happen, and stoolies are in all times and places the first to also have problems.
asciilifeform: since we're at the 'pack parachute' stage, nobody's shooting stoolies around here yet.
mircea_popescu: that's the only reason, too.
mircea_popescu: as i said a few times before, the other party can move it up to getting shot any time it feels ready
mircea_popescu: talk to its fambly, say goodbies, come to the field.
bounce: drones with mesh potatoes and solar panels for autonomy. some proximity sensors and such. one roof gets too hot for comfort, move to the next.
bounce: what's the state of thin foil solar panels anyway?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform or to put it in plainer terms : it is very true one wants to invent parachute before, rather than after being thrown from the plane.
mircea_popescu: this point applies to the government.
mircea_popescu: i am quite curious to hear what their parachute design will look like.
asciilifeform: everybody's seen the photos of fleets of gasenwagen, brand new
mircea_popescu: stoolies being what they are, i'll prolly hear about it before they actually accept it.
ozbot: Georg Ritter von Flondor, and what his unhappy life can teach us pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Pope
mircea_popescu: time to rehash the sad story of von flondor.
kakobrekla: this is what tat was talking about ?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla hey, why isn't enky ever say anything ?
fluffypony: kakobrekla: yes
MarieLynn: <+mircea_popescu> what is the world's most important project ? (re: 18:06)
kakobrekla: i dunno, he speaks just not much here.
kakobrekla: OMG how dare you MarieLynn !
mircea_popescu: the great days when diff was like... 300mn.
ozbot: 8.001 billion | Next Diff in 1539 blocks | Estimated Change: 10.1417% in 9d 14h 27m 34s
mircea_popescu: back when benkay was liek... correcting my math. how's this benkay baby! six months fixed my broked math.
thestringpuller: ;;calc 2*3
asciilifeform: this decimal point crap is a mega-lol. they can't inflate, so... let's move decimal. like in a banana republic, or '90s russia.
mircea_popescu: exactly.
asciilifeform: cargo cult, too. fat lot of good it will do for the idiots.
mircea_popescu: there's more to it asciilifeform. suppose you visit this university, which wants you to take it seriously. in it, the head of nuclear physics is hard at work making an inventory of... his bunions.
mircea_popescu: what's that indicate to you ? i mean sure, great men can be eccentric.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless...
asciilifeform: u.s. academia, in once sentence.
MarieLynn: interesting post :)
mircea_popescu: maybe the bunion accountant has no business in physics, nuclear or otherwise, and the thing ain't an university in any sense.
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn so, that. the one thing that does more than everything else all humans ever did in the entire history of life on earth.
MarieLynn: My friend is looking for a Rails dev @ 120-180K for his kinky site... I wish I was a Rails dev all of a sudden :)
mircea_popescu: for all your poetry and wit couldn't buy you half a hash.
mircea_popescu: davout was a rails dev if memory serves :D
pankkake: it's easy to be a Ruby dev. you just need a macbook and a fedora
asciilifeform: MarieLynn: dev @ 120-180K << lemme guess, california.
MarieLynn: <+mircea_popescu> I will quote you on this when I talk about bitcoin
gribble: The operation succeeded.
MarieLynn: Nope The position is anywhere.
MarieLynn: Nice opportunity to arbitrage your skills when you live in a super cheap place!
asciilifeform: pankkake: you just need a macbook and a fedora << and a leaden stomach
mircea_popescu: uh. what do you think arbitrage means ?
asciilifeform: note that, e.g. oil rig men get $200K+
pankkake: why? because of starbucks coffees?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not for doing stuff on reddit tho
MarieLynn: You keep living in a cheap place a reap the benefits of working in a place where they pay more for talent.
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn mno. that's getting a good remote job.
pankkake: maybe I should have left for an oil rig
asciilifeform: dealing in redditronics ought to earn a hazard pay, like soviet workers in the far north
asciilifeform: in fact... it sorta does.
mircea_popescu: pankkake i hear you gotta be a fag to man an oil rig.
pankkake: so it's like an union thing
asciilifeform: gotta be a fag to man an oil rig << it's not a nuke sub. they rotate the crew occasionally.
MarieLynn: My other friend in Saskatchewan says construction workers are impossible to find because the mines pay too high :)
asciilifeform: i'm still at a loss as to why gigantic server farms aren't built, in, say, alaska
fluffypony: hah hah
fluffypony: "Tradefortress has no room to bash anyone else besides Karpeles, Pirate, or maybe Mr. NEOBEE, Danny Brewster. Everyone else, small-time scammers included, would be better company at this point."
asciilifeform: or the very same miners.
MarieLynn: My boyfriend beats people up for a living but there are few people in Montreal who are tough enough for his classes.
asciilifeform: 'yeah we're short on cabling, the men delivering had to shoot their dogs'
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn arbitrage is the buying and selling of the same one asset (either natural or synthetic) in different markets that are divergent. so in order to arbitrage skills, you'd have to first buy them. skills aren't commodities however, and so this "arbitrage your skills" is just hipster talk.
MarieLynn: I shall never use it again in your presence then
mircea_popescu: tbh i was expecting something more along the lines of "wtf is a synthetic"
asciilifeform: you can get machine racks in shipping containers. drop them straight on the snow, connect to power plant, put a bit of concertina wire around.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so your dc sinks ten feet each summer ?
asciilifeform: i bet they float just fine.
mircea_popescu: how do you find them again if they float ?
mircea_popescu: ;;google otters holding hands.
gribble: Otters holding hands - YouTube: <>; Otterly adorable: Dozy otters hold hands while taking a nap so they ...: <>; Sea otter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <>
asciilifeform: or that.
bounce: the offshoring brokers are in a sense arbitraging skills
asciilifeform: anchor.
benkay: who's this MarieLynn ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, i know the daughter of the guy that designed fucking buildings there. it's insanely expensive, you have to anchor i nthe permafrost.
mircea_popescu: benkay see teh log, she actually properly introduced herself.
pankkake: benkay: use the WoT, m8
asciilifeform: ammonal is expensive now?
benkay: ;;gettrust MarieLynn
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask MarieLynn!4a74bfc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip. Trust relationship from user benkay to user MarieLynn: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Fri May 2 14:21:45 2014
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform listen, for your average "rich american" 10 cubic meters of cement are expensive.
mircea_popescu: don't go telling me about how a 200 meter long pike is nothing.
asciilifeform: average american will not be hosting in the klondike, agreed.
mircea_popescu: bounce yeah, something like that, perhaps.
asciilifeform: almost certainly good ROI though if you factor cooling.
mircea_popescu: up until some derps come to confiscate your cattle
mircea_popescu: because your cooling is endangering the spotted ice shrimp
asciilifeform: let them confiscate hot reactor.
benkay: lol MarieLynn your website has an obama quote? is that...are you...what even ams, yo
mircea_popescu: you're going to erect an atmosphere-cooled, unauthorised nuclear reactor in alaska ?
mircea_popescu: and they say i'm wild.
mircea_popescu: benkay she's a canadian, she's entitled to vote for obama.
asciilifeform: i bet they've got one in norilsk as we speak.
mircea_popescu: nah. they'd have blown it by now.
mircea_popescu: not even actual experts can run the shit russians make.
mircea_popescu: it's like java on rails for nuclear physicists.
MarieLynn: Benkay I put it there for fun, I just met him casually about 22 years ago with his mom :)
asciilifeform: herr orlov had a piece, where he 'what if concert pianos sometimes exploded'
asciilifeform: 'how many serious pianists left'
MarieLynn: I still haven't asked the museum archivist to tak out the note he wrote in the guestbook. Barrie!
benkay: "java on rails for nuclear physicists" << lulzlozlozwlw
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn how;'s the guy';s mom like ?
mircea_popescu: the red us press was making her sound like a monster recently.
MarieLynn: Obama is a surprising person. Freakishly thin. Very 'rememberable'
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete "non-delfationary " is what ?
benkay: MarieLynn: what brought you in here?
mircea_popescu: "Berkshire quarterly profit hurt by weather, insurance"
mircea_popescu: mwahahaha suffer bitch.
MarieLynn: I was walking on this steet called Twitter and BitcoinPete picked me up!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00096627 = 16.3783 BTC [-] {2}
bounce: easy street, no
MarieLynn: Usually when I participate in these things I wind up wioth an annoying stalker so I haven't been in IRC for over a decade.
fluffypony: uh I know MarieLynn, gribble stalks me all the time
FabianB: MarieLynn: your red wordpress emergency button is leading to "No Results Found"
fluffypony: gribble: stalker.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31472 @ 0.00096538 = 30.3824 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Amazing how that actually fits history
MarieLynn: Damn PasswordBox always changing my fields! Thanks for the heads up.
artifexd: <mircea_popescu> it's like java on rails for nuclear physicists. << lol & bashed
Namworld: Trendon was such a retard... "Herp derp, I'm going to run a ponzi scheme and just use spend everything directly on all my personal accounts."
Namworld: and sold 85000 BTC for like 2 bucks each after trading losses...
Namworld: Looks like most was returned to "investors"
mircea_popescu: that chick's actually smart, too.
Namworld: Wow, so much work and trouble for just 165k USD
fluffypony: Namworld: yeah I was expecting more
Namworld: I never saw those numbers... this is absurd.
fluffypony: but he did have the good fortune of many back rubs
csshih: fluffypony, really
csshih: holy shit 32 led bulbs with a massive 20,000 mcd?!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00096474 = 13.7958 BTC [-] {2}
bounce: you can get whatwasit 100 hours out of a single aa... but it won't be much light.
csshih: yeah it's a boatload of advertising bullshit
mircea_popescu: add some blades.
fluffypony: bounce: absolutely - on my ZebraLight SC51s I can do 4 days at ~3 lumens
fluffypony: csshih: I thought you'd enjoy it :)
csshih: fluffypony, check out the zebraligh sc52
fluffypony: csshih: I know - it's time for an upgrade
csshih: it can do 3 months.. grated at 0.01 lumens LOL
csshih: but OMG 2000 hours
fluffypony: csshih: I'm sure I mentioned to you the other day 1 of my SC51s has grown legs, gah
bounce: or the lri proton pro, or a host of other high-end flashlights
csshih: haha
csshih: oops
csshih: yeah the lri is nice, but it's dated
bounce: can't get'em here
MarieLynn: LEDs hurt my eyes... Can't...
bounce: all I have is a photon II, came as a giveaway. guy had a sack full of'em, when in yurp they cost 20 euro a piece.
csshih: yikes
csshih: oh yeah that's my shop, thanks fluffypony
fluffypony: bounce: you should pester csshih for a coupon code :-P
bounce: still a continent away
fluffypony: they do international shipping, yo
csshih: ya
fluffypony: on the Photon topic tho
assbot: [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 500 @ 0.00021725 = 0.1086 BTC [+]
fluffypony: the ReX was an amazing piece of kit
fluffypony: so glad I still have mine
mircea_popescu: check out the drop.
fluffypony: with solar and USB chargers
bounce: dramatic. what's dropping?
fluffypony: just a pity that you have to strip it and waterproof it yourself
csshih: what am I looking at
MarieLynn: yeah writing too small
fluffypony: bounce: at the top left you can see it says "Misutyusri QU530YT -RR"
dignork: BingoBoingo: you asked for openbsd build instructions for bitcoin 7.x:
bounce: I'd not've made that out hadn't you told
thestringpuller: MarieLynn: New Year.s Resolution = Use AirBnB. a lot! << @_@ coincidentally I just had the worst rental experience of my life with them
bounce: sudoitis on openbsd. phail.
thestringpuller: if the owners where in WoT i would be neg rating them right now
fluffypony: ;;google Misutyusri QU530YT -RR
bounce: curl? CURL?
gribble: No matches found.
dignork: bounce: curl vs. wget?
mircea_popescu: bounce t yields.
fluffypony: openbsd doesn't come with wget preloaded
MarieLynn: What happened <+thestringpuller>
bounce: at least freebsd has "fetch" in base, dunno what openbsd does there
thestringpuller: hmm that didn't highlight for me
MarieLynn: I suck at IRC, educate me :)
thestringpuller: ;;google lets have fun with paul graham
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07444265 = 0.1489 BTC [+]
gribble: Let's have fun with Paul Graham pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <>; Decembrie 2012 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <>; Fata morgana II, or don't you just hate it when you come up with an ...: < (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: dignork: well, I made the offer to some kid, but post or pm address
fluffypony: bed time noa, cheers
MarieLynn: Good night Fluffy!
BingoBoingo: ;;rate dignork 1 found an opportunity to make a useful thing
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dignork has been recorded.
bounce: doesn't openbsd have a port for bitcoind, by the by?
mircea_popescu: ok sorry for the abstruse earlier image. it's the yield of us treasury bonds, 30 years, traded in japan
bounce: right. why'd that drop all of a sudden? start of the avalanche?
mircea_popescu: stocks are also eating the gains.
BingoBoingo: bounce some pieces of software you want to build from source.
MarieLynn: <+thestringpuller> That sucks. My last AirBnB in Toronto had a kleptomaniac cat... Other than that, good experiences so far.
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn thestringpuller i think there may be a strong difference based on location. airbnb may work a lot better outside of the us than inside.
bounce: what's with the wholesale quoting? o_O?
mircea_popescu: << warren buffett now associating with... wait for it... with ginsu knives.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: How about a Yankees game?
bounce: BingoBoingo: even then ports is the right place to store the compilation instructions
mircea_popescu: if he starts doing jay leno and roger/cathylee i'll weep
bounce: that is more or less why the thing exists
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Maybe?
MarieLynn: I look at AirBnB in Moscow and St-Petersburg and the places in St-P. are palacial and the stuff in Moscow is dinky... Wonder what it will be like.
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure it's palatial.
BingoBoingo: bounce: Sure, but sometimes you gotta be able to reproduce something in a different way. It may not be the most right way.
bounce: well, if there isn't a port then this is as good a point as any to cook one up
MarieLynn: Okay, I only want palatable :P
bounce: heh, tritium glow fobs. apparently they're made somewhere near here but you can't buy'em. can buy'em in the uk but only if you live there due to transport regulations and shit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00096812 = 0.5809 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: get a load of this fucktard :
mircea_popescu: Noah Rothman Hungary, first member of the Warsaw Pact to slough off the bonds of communism, most resistant to Russ sanctions
mircea_popescu: Mircea Popescu @NoahCRothman O look, Romania not included. Because everyone else EXCEPT Romania had troops in Odessa, amirite ? #irrelevantidiocy
mircea_popescu: Noah Rothman @Mircea_Popescu not sure what you're getting at. Finland not included either. Are you suggesting Romanian operatives active in Ukr?
mircea_popescu: so... he doesn't understand what i'm getting at. because FINLAND was also omitted.
bounce: commie bonds? what's the yield on that?
mircea_popescu: o, what relevancy could omitting all the people against have on an article discussing "the only people against" ?
mircea_popescu: bounce syphilis.
bounce: you wish.
bounce: could perchance do an ideology market thingy
bounce: (biggest yield: irony)
mircea_popescu: unintentional irony crits
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete i'm told by my obviously bored intel that in point of fact 1,045 yo made some chick "the oldest living protoss"
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47524 @ 0.00096422 = 45.8236 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17810 @ 0.00096359 = 17.1615 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07439009 = 0.5951 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: come on everyone loves a yankee's game
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Well, I think they are actually coming out here this year, some time. I dunno when though.
thestringpuller: where u @
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: St Louis-ish
thestringpuller: i haven't been to MO since 2011
thestringpuller: how time flies..
thestringpuller: I'll send you some crypto mail soon and we'll have a BTC game day.
atcbot: 25k@239 33k@225 23k@224 | 48k@200 90k@156 10k@155
csshih: o/ BigBitz
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00096812 = 0.7745 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07410072 = 0.1482 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.07452036 = 0.8197 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07455956 = 0.2237 BTC [+] {2}
Namworld: That's some thick chest hair...
kakobrekla: i watched a bunch of episodes of computer chronicles quite some time ago, i guess this kennas show will have a similar feel in 20 years or so. the main difference though is that cc was not ran by scammers but the opposite.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.00096853 = 16.9977 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: !up sull
assbot: Voicing sull for 30 minutes.
Duffer1: kakobrekla did you see the doge nascar?
sull: thanks. hey
mircea_popescu: hello. who're you ?
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 200 Ask: 224 Last Price: 170 24h-Vol: 44k High: 224 Low: 170 VWAP: 219
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-]
sull: bitcoinpete sent me
Duffer1: ya pretty much
mircea_popescu: anyone want to lend me a billion or so of the dogecoins on a one year term ?
Duffer1: the hood of the car is worse
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0335 = 0.201 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: sull cool.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i can lend you 40000
mircea_popescu: but... still.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller what's the thing trading for, 50 satoshi per ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-]
Namworld: Around 100 satoshi afaik
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller 40k hardly worth the paper to print the contract on.
Namworld: Since it's about 18 bucks of dogecoins, it's probably worth the paper, just not the time.
Namworld: Unless you print on gold sheets
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23453 @ 0.00097322 = 22.8249 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0315001 = 0.189 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0335 = 0.1675 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0745599 = 0.2237 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0317301 = 0.2538 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0333001 = 0.2664 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.06474168 = 0.5179 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1942 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1942 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00447203 = 0.1655 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: <+fluffypony> csshih: <- thoughts? /// yknow, a good scam here would be to include some battery power under the hood, fooling people to wow at its initial duration of use, then they put it away for a year like every other flashlight and forget about it
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: the 'battery assist' circuit is an ordinary voltage multiplier.
asciilifeform: so long as you can keep the output voltage above the junction minimum of the leds, you have some light
asciilifeform: for some reason i thought this was standard on led flashlights, but possibly the chinese omit it.
asciilifeform: likewise, since a switched voltage regulator ('boost reg' for hardware people) is not 100% efficient,
asciilifeform: this is necessarily a poorer use of the batteries than the traditional version of several 1.5v cells in series.
asciilifeform: it does, however, allow you to drain them completely
asciilifeform: (as you could in a classical, incandescent flashlight)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00097446 = 15.5914 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: why there needs to be a 'kickstarter' for a flashlight, i cannot answer. ask the gods.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12497 @ 0.00097446 = 12.1778 BTC [+]
moiety: mewning eberybady
benkay: mewity, how goes it
BingoBoingo: moiety: Check the logs, future past you was here
moiety: i'm just catching up, i missed a lot... is it just me or are the logs longer thesedays even with voicingness BB?
moiety: benkay: mewity! just woke up from an epic sleep :D feel really good, how are you?
benkay: tres duper
BingoBoingo: Yeah, they keep growing
moiety: surprised to see you actuallement BB - its fliday
BingoBoingo: moiety: Feeling under the weather.
moiety: benkay i actually say that word irl - mewity lol
moiety: oh? what kind of under the weather? temperature BB?
BingoBoingo: moiety: Weather as euphamism for feeling unwell
moiety: i know so i wondered if you had a fever
moiety: paracetamol will regulate your body temp if its jumping around
BingoBoingo: Oh, I'm working on it
moiety: BB btw paracetamol doesn't have a % ;P
moiety: though a hot toddie wouldn't go a miss if you have a cold
moiety: sort of unrelated but is it just me that is intensely annoyed by gawker as a website?
moiety: also i like how we don't have to re-up! when assbot takes a break kakobrekla :D
kakobrekla: it has four goldfish worth of memory
benkay: ;;later tell jurov thing's a little tricky to test. has anyone built an mpex sandbox?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mike_c: moiety: +1 can't stand it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3984 @ 0.0001459 = 0.5813 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: mike just do !down mike_c if so
mike_c: can't stand gawker :)
moiety: assbot had a tantrum!
moiety: mike_c: and it appears theres a few sites that use the same look/set up? its horrible to use
mike_c: i 3> assbot
kakobrekla: well anyway selfdown functionality is preserved
kakobrekla: i think.
mike_c: that wasn't the right emoticon
kakobrekla: a hat on tits?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0745599 = 0.2237 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: actually i expanded a feature moiety .
moiety: there is only one thing i wish for assbot. it doesn't have manuls to counteract a potential war from gribble's kittens
moiety: kakobrekla: o?
kakobrekla: yea, i guess you will see it when you see it :)
moiety: don't keep me in suspenders!
kakobrekla: but why not, i hear they are fashionable again
moiety: because i get far too excited about the bots >.>
kakobrekla: id rather not tell now again, so theres no disappointment.
moiety: has it been in teh logs? im still catching up
kakobrekla: no no, i just made it up
kakobrekla: ok ok i give up, too much pressure!
kakobrekla: !jd mpif
assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 163.85524671 BTC; +0.00456912 BTC (+0.0028%) since last check 10m 4s ago.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 5 @ 0.139999 = 0.7 BTC [-]
moiety: well you cave easily :D // very nice!
moiety: peer pressure ftw
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