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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03809999 = 0.1143 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0598889 = 0.2396 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1976 @ 0.0001 = 0.1976 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 46 @ 0.0075 = 0.345 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1602 @ 0.00012512 = 0.2004 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2800 @ 0.00013964 = 0.391 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.0009655 = 11.2964 BTC [-]
ozbot: Russia Clamps Down Further on U.S. International Media
ozbot: Scenes From A Multiverse » Money Vs People
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0560005 = 0.112 BTC [-]
MisterE: ;; ident
gribble: Nick 'MisterE', with hostmask 'MisterE!~MisterE@unaffiliated/mistere', is not identified.
MisterE: ;;eauth
gribble: (eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
MisterE: ;;eauth MisterE
gribble: Request successful for user MisterE, hostmask MisterE!~MisterE@unaffiliated/mistere. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/C97817F2EE7504A3
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00096525 = 5.4054 BTC [-]
MisterE: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:bce7bfaaf65b0f2b21be0261be00e6ddb9ba8d5a77f4bd375d4d9267
gribble: You are now authenticated for user MisterE with key C97817F2EE7504A3
MisterE: ;;ident
gribble: Nick 'MisterE', with hostmask 'MisterE!~MisterE@unaffiliated/mistere', is identified as user 'MisterE', with GPG key id C97817F2EE7504A3, key fingerprint E54D4555D630311E14217FBDC97817F2EE7504A3, and bitcoin address 157afpHi6hoT9dTHs4nGuH78TRXd6rHG6N
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1929 @ 0.00012407 = 0.2393 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0560003 = 0.112 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 258 @ 0.00088843 = 0.2292 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00012 = 0.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1280 @ 0.00017669 = 0.2262 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 662 @ 0.0001769 = 0.1171 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.06579965 = 0.1974 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0658 = 0.1316 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00096387 = 29.5908 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.01999702 = 0.14 BTC [-] {3}
jurov: !t h neobeeq
assbot: [HAVELOCK:NEOBEEQ] 1D: 0.00000001 / 9.555E-5 / 0.00020000 (206015 shares, 19.68375163 BTC), 7D: 0.00000001 / 9.555E-5 / 0.00020000 (206015 shares, 19.68375163 BTC), 30D: 0.00000001 / 0.00215953 / 0.00450000 (597969 shares, 1291.32993711 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 57 @ 0.03809999 = 2.1717 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1140 @ 0.00013993 = 0.1595 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 93 @ 0.02011797 = 1.871 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61218391 BTC [+]
[KS]: BingoBoingo: I'm not really interested in the encyclopedic classification of scams but I can see where it has some value for clueless investors. I'm more into: 1/ it's scam, 2/ it still might be a scam or have same result, 3/ it's without a doubt not a scam and is a secure investment (like Treasury Bonds - although...looking at Argentina/Russia...). So far I have seen 1/ and 2/. Dank, RENT and others are 1/ no doubt. Neo and AM are 2/.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00014 = 0.28 BTC [+]
jurov: such drama
jurov: However, the Cyprus Mail states that it contacted the police authorities and learned that Brewster has not reported any threats, either against him or his family.
thestringpuller: !last m s.mpoe
assbot: Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00096387 BTC [-]
Apocalyptic: jurov, interesting
chetty: what would bitcoin be without drama?
thestringpuller: lol chetty you never got me those model formats lol
chetty: hmm I gave them to MP
chetty: get to #eulora
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 761 @ 0.00014 = 0.1065 BTC [+] {2}
tehfcuk: Sup
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 7625 @ 0.00014 = 1.0675 BTC [+] {2}
tehfcuk: Hello?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3071 @ 0.00014877 = 0.4569 BTC [+] {4}
tehfcuk: Anyone here?
thestringpuller: check logs
tehfcuk: Sorry, new to IRC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2500 @ 0.00014999 = 0.375 BTC [+] {3}
tehfcuk: Is that people buying NeoBee?
chetty: tehfcuk, its a kinda slow time of day, read some of the logs to get a feel for the place
chetty: NEOEBEEQ, whatever that is
tehfcuk: Alright, will do thanks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00015 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.0009655 = 12.5515 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00545002 = 0.109 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.6121449 = 3.0607 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00015 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 725 @ 0.00013896 = 0.1007 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10019 @ 0.0009655 = 9.6733 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 26 @ 0.0381 = 0.9906 BTC [+]
ozbot: 5.007 billion | Next Diff in 1 blocks | Estimated Change: 22.3402% in -1d 23h 53m 9s
Apocalyptic: in -1d , sounds legit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00096315 = 10.1612 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 5299 @ 0.00012 = 0.6359 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10941 @ 0.0009655 = 10.5635 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 72 @ 0.0015808 = 0.1138 BTC [-] {6}
cazalla: CoinLab now goldmember, toite like a toiger
Duffer1: remarkable
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1800 @ 0.00012 = 0.216 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.0381 = 0.5715 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 20000 @ 0.00011894 = 2.3788 BTC [-] {14}
mircea_popescu: punkman and yet they're not in here.
mircea_popescu: "HOTEL MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS, INC."
ozbot: TUCN | Stock Price Quote for Hotel Management Systems Inc.
punkman: BTCS now
mircea_popescu: makes no diff. weighted alpha -60%
mircea_popescu: that means they reflected 60% of the movement in their industry, the other direction.
mircea_popescu: almost as good as your average forum investor.
mircea_popescu: 1 Year Return %:-72.97%
mircea_popescu: 3 Year Return %:-410.81%
mircea_popescu: 5 Year Return %:-98.72%
mircea_popescu: trading 0.0050+0.0007 atm. i guess an article is in order.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14223 @ 0.00096888 = 13.7804 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: ty for teh tip.
mircea_popescu: want a link to a blog/social media acct/something from your nick ?
mircea_popescu: [KS] the classification doesn't go like that. there's two distinct angles being confounded.
mircea_popescu: from the investor pov, "it's a scam" to "it's a legit business" roughly maps their revenue. in this sense, a good corp in a bad market is a "scam".
mircea_popescu: from the corp pov, "it's a scam" to "it's a legit business" roughly maps their honesty. in this sense, shit badly mismanaged by honest but clueless people is "not a scam"
mircea_popescu: then the debate "it's a scam" vs "it's not a scam" can rage indefinitely, opposing some people arguing "this is so stupid it'll never see a return" with people arguing "these people are so honest and nice and trustworthy they don't even call women bitch ever!"
mircea_popescu: nonsensical debate.
locksmith: hey guys
locksmith: here's something funny someone said to me on reddit
mircea_popescu: i personally hold the latter responsible for it, because somehow it has been implanted in the head of every clueless fuckwit that how nice you are matters. it dun matter for shit.
locksmith: "You are the alt account of ThickAsThieves, posting in IRC also as Sherlock & locksmith. So, why dont you start explaining how you and the ret of the Mircea team FUDed this up, hey?"
mircea_popescu: o hey, welcome to the dreamteam, locksmith
locksmith: btw my reddit username is sherlocksmith
mircea_popescu: this chan is logged, and everybody in bitcoin reads it. even the redditards.
mircea_popescu: well, the minority that can read anyway.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which,
locksmith: nice
mircea_popescu: not bad yeah.
mircea_popescu: extra knickers but w/e.
locksmith: yeah, I'm just trying to figure why that guy is connecting me to TaT though, beyond the fact that I've been warning people against neobee and also coming to this channel
mircea_popescu: beyond ?
mircea_popescu: what are you, from like the past ? this is the future dood.
chetty: those two items are enough to build a conspiracy :)
locksmith: speaking of reddit, this is my latest hobby btw http://www.reddit.com/r/tumblrarchives
ozbot: 6.120 billion | Next Diff in 2007 blocks | Estimated Change: -17.8582% in 16d 10h 12m 45s
chetty: you only need 2 dots and the sharpie goes to work
mircea_popescu: cazalla: CoinLab now goldmember, toite like a toiger << i remember in like early 2013 when i was like, ycombinator is running btc scams, and people were like nonono, coinlab and coinbase are not the same thing! and coindesk is relevant!
locksmith: well, there's no such thing as anonymity, only pseudonimity
mircea_popescu: locksmith pity you weren't around when i stil ran dtng, you could have spammed reddit with links to that
mircea_popescu: better porn anyway.
locksmith: dtng?
mircea_popescu: yeah, old imgboard
locksmith: oh alright, I was trying to connect the dots with a sharpy and see if you could be linked to violentacrez
mircea_popescu: supposedly she's one of my many alternate female identitties.
locksmith: haha
locksmith: you could've used it to spread more fud about neobee
mircea_popescu: this is pretty lulzy stuff. "oh noes, people say things we don't like to hear. SILENCE THEM!!11"
mircea_popescu: locksmith no cause then it'd have given the game away to the astute reddit monsterbators.
chetty: yeah see what happened to the DEO of Mozilla?
mircea_popescu: im saving that one for to ruin the feminist movement from inside or something.
chetty: s/CEO
mircea_popescu: chetty remember that article that hurt artifexd's feelings, which said programmers are fungible ?
mircea_popescu: well... he got fungibled.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1/450000
gribble: 2.22222222222e-06
mircea_popescu: ;;calc (1 - 1/450000) * 100
gribble: 99.9997777778
locksmith: dude don't target femen! coz you know
locksmith: boobs
pankkake: femens don't have boobs
pankkake: ;;calc (1 - 1/600000) * 100
gribble: 99.9998333333
chetty: nah fungible he could go somewhere else, that guy will never work again
pankkake: I remembered them flatter
locksmith: they got all shapes and colors
mircea_popescu: ya srsly, the entire concept of femen is to form a group of little boys that pretend to be topless women.
locksmith: yeah but they chop down wooden crosses without a shirt on
locksmith: which is pretty hardcore
mircea_popescu: Mounties: He cuts down trees, he skips and jumps, he likes to press wild flowers.
mircea_popescu: He puts on women's clothing and hangs around.... In bars?
mircea_popescu: (but no, they're nice gals, i'm just being contrarian)
locksmith: so if I get this right, feminists are butthurt cos of having small boobs?
mircea_popescu: most annoying feminists i saw are butthurt cause you can't really make their boobs out among all the spare tires.
mircea_popescu: most pleasant feminists i know are simply not interested in getting it on with a failed boy pretending to be a man
mircea_popescu: and prefer to be my slaves instead.
mircea_popescu: in between these, a continuum
locksmith: where I come from women are feminist by default. we change the configs though but some of them are using persistent state
mircea_popescu: they should be feminists. woman in a harem eats a degree of magnitude more clam than snail. god help her if she doesn't like girls.
locksmith: yeh but they end up not putting out
locksmith: heard of a married couple the other day hasn't had sex in 4 years
locksmith: that's why divorces are soaring here
locksmith: people should just not get married
mircea_popescu: well they should definitely pick better.
chetty: God I hate feminists
mircea_popescu: this "ima get married cause everyone else is" nonsense obviously can't work any better than "i'ma '''invest''' cause the rest of reddit thinks so"
locksmith: I'm thinking it's best to live with someone, and if you end up not liking each other just split up. what's the point of bringing the state into the whole ordeal
mircea_popescu: don't they have common law marriage where you live ?
locksmith: what's common law marriage
mircea_popescu: in most of the us the state involves itself anyway, provided you spend more than a few years together. or have kids.
mircea_popescu: it's a "married by default" thing.
mircea_popescu: in some us states merely failing to correct the other one's public claim you were married is good enough.
locksmith: oh yeah, this exists here, for couples with kids or people living together for more than 7 years
locksmith: but I don't live in the states
mircea_popescu: used to be 20 years about 20 years ago.
MisterE: in WA men have been forced to pay child support for children that were not theirs because they lived with and "bonded" with the family
MisterE: no doubt the guy was paying all the bills while he was there too
MisterE: terrible state to get divorced
MisterE: you want to file in Bexar County TX
locksmith: MisterE now that's just fucked up. if that happened to me nobody would ever see me again
MisterE: it's tilted so far in favor of woman in WA
mircea_popescu: locksmith why would nobody see YOU again ?
mircea_popescu: what, get new friends just because ?
locksmith: I'd hit the road man
mircea_popescu: if it happened to me nobody'd see that state again.
MisterE: in WA if someone calls police for domestic violence someone *must* go to jail
locksmith: mircea_popescu I was trying to not sound too terrorist-ish - I'm not hiding my IP :p
MisterE: friend of mine got tazed because cops were there when he got home and he couldn't believe it
mircea_popescu: dude. government IS SUPPOSED to be afraid of people.
mircea_popescu: and not just a little afraid either. fucking petrified.
MisterE: supposed indeed
mircea_popescu: trembling in terror.
MisterE: they sure have turned the tables on that one
mircea_popescu: well cause of you schmucks.
locksmith: hehe
mircea_popescu: never has a thing as powerless as the state ever been invented.
MisterE: hey I voted with my feet
mircea_popescu: that also works.
MisterE: 8-years ago I saw the writing on the wall
MisterE: no more tax revenue from me
locksmith: for all the shit that Cyprus is, our police here is very mild
locksmith: you can go about the island and you only see police in their cars going around
locksmith: the most terrifiying thing about cyprus police is if you do a traffic violation
locksmith: that's their strong department, traffic
mircea_popescu: anyway, my car's here so ima split. if the bitcoinshop.us tards show up, have them make an appointment. nothing before 8pm gmt.
locksmith: ok, also if you guys see ThickAsThieves let him know I'm his alt-ego
pankkake: LiteAsThieves?
locksmith: no, this guy in reddit thinks that my username there, sherlocksmith, and my nick here, locksmith, is ThickAsThieves' alt identity
pankkake: lol, they're never out of sockpuppet conspiracies
locksmith: I have actually never even spoken to ThickAsThieves, but this guy sees I come to this channel and so doees ThickAsThieves
locksmith: so we must be the same person, you know?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.05521914 = 1.1596 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3963 @ 0.00017419 = 0.6903 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8012 @ 0.00097093 = 7.7791 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 106 @ 0.05185789 = 5.4969 BTC [-] {12}
jurov: that fred quimby trilema stuff got me thinking
Apocalyptic: I really liked the article
jurov: Looks if i want to have more people around, I have to actually and mercilessly use them
jurov: not play toward their creative side
jurov: only then they stay in my company
jurov: But I don't want to surround me with people I secretly despise!
Apocalyptic: I didn't see that in the piece
jurov: it's closely related to the fungibility
jurov: and quimby did not buy his animator espresso machine or bean bags
Apocalyptic: the way you behave towards people is in no way related to their potential fungibility
Apocalyptic: the way you consider them however is something else
jurov: Quite the opposite. And they worked for him and the results were excellent.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 427 @ 0.0003524 = 0.1505 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: Apocalyptic if i consider them somehow,i'll behave too
jurov: that can't be split from each other
Apocalyptic: I think it can
jurov: But that's beside the point. I saw the point "as do not treat anyone as exceptional"
Shakespeare: a team does need a leader jurov, but a leader doesnt despise his men
Shakespeare: he merely does not need to totally understand what they do
Apocalyptic: jurov, I saw the point as a real life exemple of the value of management
Apocalyptic: *proper* management that is
Shakespeare: i think you'd find the working environment of successful "bean bag" companies to not be all espresso machines and fun
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18323 @ 0.0009715 = 17.8008 BTC [+] {2}
Shakespeare: look at the hiring lockout thing between apple/google etc
Shakespeare: finding and keeping talent is fierce
Apocalyptic: and that is shouldn't be underestimated, as it tremendously often is
Apocalyptic: (re the salary argument, "does this guy really deserve to be paid xxxx ? he does nothing...")
jurov: Do you think Jobs and Schmidt did not despise(or had similar feeling) the underlings?
Apocalyptic: now that's beside the point, maybe they did, maybe they don't
Apocalyptic: *didn't
jurov: There just *had* to be some feeling of superiority in them to do what they did
Shakespeare: Jobs and the underlings he despised were probably several layers of mgmt removed
Shakespeare: it's not thaty they felt superior, it;s that they ARE superior
Shakespeare: so when inferior beings frustrate your plans how does that make you feel?
Shakespeare: we're getting away from the spirit of the Quimby article i think though
jurov: you're right, i'd be upset
Shakespeare: it was mostly about running a tight ship, regardless of your experience performing the art
Shakespeare: showing that mindset can be corrupted
jurov: Dunno. If I want to have company and attract and keep talent, that's what i need to become
Shakespeare: and leadership is a basic form
jurov: That was what tfa was about.
Shakespeare: maybe you are not a leader
Shakespeare: you dont need to be
Shakespeare: or, maybe your decision as a good boss, migth be to hire a better manager
jurov: Well, I could barely stand being an employee since I remember.
Shakespeare: someone "brought in" Quimby right?
jurov: Yes,me.
Shakespeare: he didnt build the thing without intigation
Shakespeare: instigation
jurov: And I can't do the travelling,freelancing and squatting nomad either, attractive it may be.
jurov: So the only option left is to have own company.
[KS]: mircea_popescu: I see your point, but it's an improper use of the word "scam". A scam is a fraud. A good corp in a bad market is just that. You made a bad investment and calling it a scam is just shifting the blame. Of course, don't try to explain them word things to "investors".
Shakespeare: so have a compan jurov!
Apocalyptic: he already has
jurov: Yes. Just discussing some difficulties with leading people.
jurov: *my
Shakespeare: yeah i didnt have much luck with it myself
Shakespeare: mainly found it impossible to find talent locally
Shakespeare: and impossiblly frustrating to educate the target audience i chose
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.0381 = 0.3429 BTC [+]
Shakespeare: i have a dictator in me, but it's a muddled one and I still can revert to worrying about employees hating me, etc
Shakespeare: eventually you just fire the ones that do because it makes them useless
jurov: Um, I did not go to that point yet.
jurov: Just worked together with few people that would be potential employees
jurov: but all were either inept or lost interest
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05580901 = 0.279 BTC [+] {2}
Shakespeare: do you wish they didnt lose interest? or was it indicative of their likely performance anywya?
Shakespeare: kinda seems you might be worrying too much about being super boss this early
jurov: Seems they wanted guaranteed salary and I did not feel like bullshitting them.
Shakespeare: people have to have stake to care
jurov: And once you pay full salary, you have to be super boss...
Shakespeare: whether it be salary, equity, etc
Shakespeare: it could even be their own desire to see the work done
Shakespeare: or do the specific work
Shakespeare: some kind of stake
jurov: Or their mortgage.
Shakespeare: yeah if they hard up, just the promise of moneymight do
Shakespeare: what's your company do anyway?
jurov: I have coinbr + 3 other projects in various stages...need mostly sysadmin(s).
Shakespeare: i have only bad experience with such people and staffing, i'm no help...
jurov: lol
Shakespeare: maybe merge with some other co that offers good ones?
jurov: Yeah, with niggers.txt
jurov: they failed to deliver too, btw.
Apocalyptic: dem niggers
Shakespeare: was your intent to be a net-based workplace?
Shakespeare: or to have an office of your staff?
Shakespeare: in my own experience, online thing is much worse and harder to manage employees/quality
jurov: Trying the first one, maybe I should do the second instead
Shakespeare: if you hire online people, they need to have super track record of delivering
Shakespeare: and any of those guys probly dont need you
Shakespeare: which means some other kind of stake
chetty: jurov, you dont need to that hard on employees. what you need is their respect.
chetty: its like raising kids, parents try to be friends not parents. You just need to be the boss, not their friend
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00012674 = 0.1267 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: "i want my son to be my best friend"
nubbins`: well, your son's gonna be a fuckin asshole
chetty: nubbins`, +1
chairman_meow: anyone recommend an investment?
chetty: haha, avoid scams - due diligence is always called for, more in bitcoins
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000175 = 0.175 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18990 @ 0.00097205 = 18.4592 BTC [+]
chairman_meow: assbot heh
bounce: jurov: I think you misread the piece. the guy had an enthousiastic stable of creatives. all he really had to do was keep'em focused, which does not include letting them hare off every which way.
jurov: bounce why the fungibility highlight then?
jurov: emphasis even
chetty: cause thats the way MP writes, he exaggerates everything to make a point
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1029 @ 0.00013671 = 0.1407 BTC [-] {4}
jurov: so what was the point of fungibility part?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1544 @ 0.00013697 = 0.2115 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 4500 @ 0.00013599 = 0.612 BTC [-] {2}
danielpbarron: anyone who bothered to read the bio of that Dr. Whateverhisnameis would have known to stay far away from that "investment"
danielpbarron: it's written like a parody
chetty: due diligence is seriously lacking among the muppets
jurov: "genuinely love your people... like cogs in your machine"
danielpbarron: eh, i'm giving them too much credit, he didn't come off that well in his own forum thread; they had adequate warning
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00014299 = 0.143 BTC [+] {2}
chetty: well the machine wont work without cogs, and good cogs are better
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.000143 = 0.143 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3076 @ 0.0001431 = 0.4402 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00014788 = 0.1479 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.00088842 = 0.1777 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05580951 = 0.1116 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.055808 = 0.1674 BTC [-] {3}
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 451.46, Best ask: 451.8, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 451.8, 24 hour volume: 5754.99089432, 24 hour low: 439.99, 24 hour high: 456.23, 24 hour vwap: 447.289472287
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6154 @ 0.00097407 = 5.9944 BTC [+]
chairman_meow: hey what do you think of CBTC losses?
pankkake: losses?
danielpbarron: https://www.cbtc.com/ Community Bank of Chesapeake?
ozbot: Community Bank of the Chesapeake, Southern Maryland and Virginia
danielpbarron: or http://www.cbtc.org/CBTC/Welcome.html Coastal Bicycle Touring Club?
danielpbarron: i think everything about that whole exchange is sketchy, but individuals keep using it so what do i know
chairman_meow: heh. it looks like CBTC has never made a profit
danielpbarron: that's not a shock
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 107 @ 0.001565 = 0.1675 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 2.17250000 BTC to 86`900 shares, 2500 satoshi per share
pankkake: why are they paying dividends then?
chairman_meow: beats me
danielpbarron: but investing isn't about making money for most individuals; they are happy just to participate
pankkake: "This has been tried before. His response was about his love of life and how many of his friends and family have died when he was young."
Apocalyptic: Management Fees฿104.6200
chetty: actual profits are pretty rare in bitcoin space.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.0009695 = 18.1781 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.08562688 BTC to 5`076 shares, 41088 satoshi per share
danielpbarron: lol i'm pretty rare i guess
benkay: actual businesses are pretty rare in bitcoin space chetty
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] [PAID] 66.40585632 BTC to 5`076 shares, 1308232 satoshi per share
danielpbarron: it's pretty easy if you make sure that what goes in is more than what goes out
benkay: ;;lasers
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.05756002 = 0.8634 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 35 @ 0.0381 = 1.3335 BTC [+]
chetty: benkay, +1
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: depends on if the business touches fiat ever...
benkay: lotsa new handles in here -- y'all in the WoT yet?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 43 @ 0.05118139 = 2.2008 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: and who are you, danielpbarron
benkay: what's your flavor of scam?
danielpbarron: Daniel Peter Barron
danielpbarron: don't trust me
danielpbarron: i have no investments for you
benkay: o ya you're the troll thumper
benkay: what are you doing here, danielpbarron ?
danielpbarron: am I in the wrong place? I thought this was ground zero of the Bitcoin Business community
benkay: hence the question "what are you doing here"
danielpbarron: lol, start making sense
benkay: not as in get out of here as you no doubt hear all the time, but what precisely are you doing.
danielpbarron: learning
chetty: worthy action
danielpbarron: i think it would be irressponsible to hold BTC and NOT be in here
thestringpuller: better than the forums...
danielpbarron: that's an understatement
benkay: danielpbarron: do you have this 'hoarders will starve' thesis of yours written out anywhere in more detail than 140 characters including a link allows for?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 22 @ 0.10144642 = 2.2318 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: what are you talking about
benkay: ah i misread
danielpbarron: (i don't mean that isn't my twitter account, it is)
benkay: hoarder's won't starve, misconceiving bitcoin will kill you is that the gist?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.05779984 = 0.867 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0371 = 0.1113 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.038525 = 0.3082 BTC [+] {2}
danielpbarron: individuals who oppose deflationary currencies in favor of inflationary, based on having being duped into thinking that someone would sooner starve to death then part with savings, will themselves starve to death when the infastructure feeding them inevitably collapses due to the inability of central banks to print their way into prosperity
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0589999 = 0.236 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05580801 = 0.1116 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 56 @ 0.05023069 = 2.8129 BTC [-] {8}
benkay: p much.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 27 @ 0.039 = 1.053 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC [-]
benkay: i had a crypto nightmare last night
benkay: had a machine lifted with passphrase cached
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 27 @ 0.03737188 = 1.009 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 22 @ 0.05 = 1.1 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 22 @ 0.08299776 = 1.826 BTC [-]
cgcardona_: and the passphrase was 'aaaaaaaa' - it was truly a nightmare :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 27 @ 0.08299776 = 2.2409 BTC [-]
benkay: the neobee physical locations never even existed?
cgcardona_: great rules btw (I only discovered the room yesterday) http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/ "Pros don’t give a shit, it’s the clueless twits and assorted pretenders that do"
cgcardona_: nicely put
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00097242 = 11.8635 BTC [+]
benkay: here's a tough one
benkay: which affiliation makes you look dumber to the average potential client?
benkay: bitcoin?
benkay: twitter?
Apocalyptic: depends on your audience I guess
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.051 = 0.153 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0361 = 0.1083 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.08299776 = 0.249 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05349999 = 0.107 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: doubtless.
kakobrekla: bitcoin or myspace?
cgcardona_: depends what you mean by 'average' - I recently got a new part time job in SF w/ some relatively tech savvy people. During the interview we talked about btc and I told them about my project. The team leaders response was 'I think bitcoin is cool. I'm just not sure if it's gonna be the winner' (fair enough i suppose).
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.056 = 0.168 BTC [+]
cgcardona_: On the flip side I recently took on a client in honolulu and he is incredibly tech savvy and wanted nothing to do w/ twitter integration
cgcardona_: a third anecdotal evidence is my wife recently asked a local music store here on kauai if they'd let her buy me an ukelele for my bday w/ btc and they basically laughed her out of the store.
cgcardona_: so depending on where in the spectrum the person falls it would change (obvisously)
cgcardona_: *obviously
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 25 @ 0.05121599 = 1.2804 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 24 @ 0.03574997 = 0.858 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 24 @ 0.08299776 = 1.9919 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15731 @ 0.00096355 = 15.1576 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: List of commands:
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
assbot: !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
assbot: !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
assbot: !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
assbot: !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com)
assbot: !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}
assbot: !quote <lines> (desc: quotes last <lines> lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 15307 BTC profit, 31.9k BTC invested, 981.18 mio bets, 5.14 mio BTC wagered
ozbot: Romanian Becomes Possessed While on Live Television — LOYAL K.N.G.
MisterE: is it true?
mikaeldice: I didn't read the article, but a cursory glance at the title ensures me that yes, it must be true.
mikaeldice: *assures
ellen_degenerate: heh I was looking for dogedice stats
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0057028 = 0.2851 BTC [+] {6}
kakobrekla: nefarios new exchange has shut down before it opened
kakobrekla: congrats are in order.
danielpbarron: he's still doing stuff?
danielpbarron: does the scammer tag mean nothing?
kakobrekla: trying to do stuff. no, scammer tag means more biz
nubbins`: ;;seen mike_c
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 16 hours, 10 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <mike_c> looks like neobeeq has settled in at a 93% drop from suspended price. another win for havelock.
nubbins`: lel.
kakobrekla: !t h neobeeq
assbot: [HAVELOCK:NEOBEEQ] 1D: 0.00000001 / 0.00010486 / 0.00020000 (275859 shares, 28.92529637 BTC), 7D: 0.00000001 / 0.00010486 / 0.00020000 (275859 shares, 28.92529637 BTC), 30D: 0.00000001 / 0.00193918 / 0.00450000 (665368 shares, 1290.27026328 BTC)
kakobrekla: !l h neobeeq
assbot: Last trade for NEOBEEQ on HAVELOCK was at 0.00012801 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: seriously #bitcoin is painfull to read today...
danielpbarron: i don't trust fiat-based business ideas anymore; done with it
Apocalyptic: everyone is a quantum crypto expert
danielpbarron: lol, hi Apocalyptic
Apocalyptic: everyone has an "idea"
danielpbarron: hey at least i'm up front about how my "idea" is probably wrong
kakobrekla: <danielpbarron> i don't trust fiat-based business ideas anymore; done with it < BAT U GOTSTA DIVERSIFUCK
Apocalyptic: danielpbarron, yeah that's a good approach in learning
danielpbarron: making a credit/debit card that links to Bitcoin kinda defeats the whole purpose of Bitcoin; i realize that now
Apocalyptic: but then don't ruin it by arguing with me what "public key" means
thestringpuller: ;;seen mike_c
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 16 hours, 14 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <mike_c> looks like neobeeq has settled in at a 93% drop from suspended price. another win for havelock.
danielpbarron: (not that I invested in neobee or the like)
thestringpuller: ;;later tell mike_c eulora wiki is down. /cry
gribble: The operation succeeded.
danielpbarron: (not that I invest at all, unless holding BTC counts)
thestringpuller: invest in yourself? lol
kakobrekla: we already discussed that
kakobrekla: thats trilema credits.
thestringpuller: i have enough trilema credits to last me till mircea has a full head of gray hair
thestringpuller: i should probably just archive all of it
thestringpuller: put it on a disc and bury it in my yard in case: apocalypse
danielpbarron: his is a clever system, you aren't paying to read the article forever; you're paying for the request to the server (which might happen multiple times per article if you keep going back to re-read)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05497995 = 0.11 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00097242 = 30.8257 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: yes if you want nice things you have to pay for them
thestringpuller: like the electricity and bandwidth trilema consumes lol
thestringpuller: (and vodka, and other various drugs)
danielpbarron: i'm not complaining; I like the system very much
MisterE: no ads?
danielpbarron: most articles that are free to read usually suck anyway
danielpbarron: which should come as no surprise to anyone with even a tenuous understanding of economics
thestringpuller: MisterE: i assume no need for ads if you have a paywall
MisterE: yea, just asking because my hosts file blocks most I never know
MisterE: extension gets the stragglers heh
danielpbarron: i would so much rather pay per article then bother with ad-blocking
MisterE: yea I planned to buy some credits
MisterE: soon
danielpbarron: it's worth it
danielpbarron: buy them while they are still cheap
MisterE: Im in fiat atm except cold storage
danielpbarron: before Bitcoin, i would have said the opposite to all that
danielpbarron: prefer ads to paywall etc
MisterE: you kow what I agree
danielpbarron: but that's because FIAT SUCKS
MisterE: I prefer btc paywall
pankkake: I wouldn't have an issue with a global paywall. if I have to register to every website, fuck it
MisterE: happily pay to read ars and the sites I like
danielpbarron: i don't want to give some stranger my credit card number to read an article
pankkake: I guess bitcoin makes it a bit simpler
cgcardona_: yea one of the biggest things that's changed in my perception since regularly using btc is how fucked it feels to give a stranger my credit card info.
MisterE: lol right
MisterE: and you pay dearly for that privledge
pankkake: you rarely do that though. it's paypal or some bank credit card processor
MisterE: fucking swipe fees merchant fees
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]
cgcardona_: even at restaraunts
MisterE: processor fees
MisterE: international tx fees FFS!
danielpbarron: fees aside, why does a 3rd party have to be involved at all? They can block the trade or get the state involved
cgcardona_: $5.00 minimum payments at gas stations etc have been making me buy double the crap I want for years
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05497995 = 0.11 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: that's why Bitcoin
cgcardona_: try to grab a tea and chips "oh sorry it has to be $5." "ok just double the order"
MisterE: I'm in Bangkok and want money in the US in 5 min
cgcardona_: guess I should carry more cash >_<
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: yeah i'm always paying in cash and answering "no" to "want a receipt?"
cgcardona_: damn the difficulty jump yesterday was intense http://bitcoindifficulty.com/
cgcardona_: maybe assbot has an api for showing the difficulty. i'm not sure
cgcardona_: !help
assbot: List of commands:
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
assbot: !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
assbot: !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
assbot: !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
assbot: !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com)
assbot: !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}
assbot: !quote <lines> (desc: quotes last <lines> lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}
cgcardona_: hmmm. !ticker
cgcardona_: !ticker
assbot: The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
cgcardona_: interesting :)
cgcardona_: maybe I have to pay btc to get access to more than 5 assbot commands per day?
cgcardona_: ;-]
thestringpuller: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 6966233925.09 based on data since last change | 6959577195.63 based on data for last three days
cgcardona_: ah nice
punkman: you can play with the bots in private too
cgcardona_: ah yes good point. I don't mean to spam the channel. sorry bout that
punkman: !t h rent
assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00750000 / 0.0075 / 0.00750000 (838 shares, 6.28500000 BTC), 7D: 0.00610000 / 0.00744584 / 0.00750000 (18267 shares, 136.01321414 BTC), 30D: 0.00510111 / 0.00626078 / 0.00900001 (53882 shares, 337.34351440 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 175 @ 0.00088842 = 0.1555 BTC [+] {3}
punkman: found the most delicious sheep's milk today, non-homogenized, 6% fat, and doesn't smell like sheep ass
MisterE: non ass milk++
punkman: I really prefer sheep/goat to cow milk, but can't find any consistent supply
MisterE: make cheese?
MisterE: goat is my fav
MisterE: very cold
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.05458399 = 0.2729 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 550 @ 0.00088844 = 0.4886 BTC [+]
MisterE: that goat cheese is the bomb too
danielpbarron: i live down the road from some neighbors who have goats
punkman: I live on an island full of sheep and goats
MisterE: hell they are yummy to eat too
punkman: the cheese is consistently good
wywialm: ;;later tell bitcoinpete I've read your deflation article. Do you believe that 1) prices may be downward rigid? 2) wages may be downward rigid? If yes, what is the impact on these in a substantially deflationary regime?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
danielpbarron: they let me milk one of the goats too
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 600 @ 0.00017736 = 0.1064 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: that's in past tense; i don't go back there (they are a false church)
punkman: I should move further away from the city and get my own goat
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.04530615 = 0.589 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03642999 = 0.1457 BTC [-] {4}
danielpbarron: i want to sell shares to my friends and family to start a garden on my yard (to try out managing profit/loss and paying dividends)
punkman: how much of a garden are you thinking?
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: that's not a bad idea
danielpbarron: something small
thestringpuller: how would you sell the product from the garden?
thestringpuller: what is your distribution channel?
thestringpuller: farmers market?
punkman: they come pick it up
thestringpuller: oh interesting
thestringpuller: people invest in the garden and then get lifetime supply of stuff grown
thestringpuller: BRILLIANT
danielpbarron: i would sell to myself and those who invested
danielpbarron: it's just for practice
mikaeldice: Even the neighbors with the false church?
danielpbarron: heh i literally mean like 3 or 4 individuals
mikaeldice: What about atheists and buddhists?
danielpbarron: including myself
danielpbarron: i've always wanted to grow my own food but i'm never motivated enough to do it
punkman: farming's hard work for most people
danielpbarron: i wouldn't sell to anyone outside as that would attract state attention
mikaeldice: hum.. My phone powers on the screen to tell me it's low on power. Something's wrong there.
twizt: lol companies cant go public without being in here?
punkman: thestringpuller: it's not worth much discussion, just another scam penny stock, just caught my eye because they changed their ticker to BTCS
danielpbarron: twizt: ya
danielpbarron: twizt: legic companies can't
twizt: sounds like a weird barrier
twizt: so ebay cant accept bitcoins anymore? needs a wot acct/
punkman: incidentally, I was searching for "BTCS" because some scamchange lost 50,000 "BTCS", and BTCS turns out to be BTC-sCrypt
twizt: lol
danielpbarron: legit* what sounds weird is investing in a stranger who took no time to familiarize himself with the community that has built the Bitcoin economy
twizt: where do i sign up to be ebays fulltime #bitcoin-assets rep?
twizt: im in here all the time, might as well get paid
punkman: twizt, you work at ebay?
danielpbarron: eBay doesn't need to WoT because they are already trusted
twizt: nah but if they wanna pay me 90k to idle here
twizt: i will
danielpbarron: you aren't eBay
twizt: so what happens when a wot business becomes a scam?
twizt: do people bitch less or more?
danielpbarron: "becomes?"
punkman: the wot doesn't make decisions for you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 77 @ 0.08299776 = 6.3908 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 750 @ 0.00014798 = 0.111 BTC [-] {2}
twizt: becomes = > ie really ends up being a scam
danielpbarron: right, as in, it was always a scam
thestringpuller: sort by rating
twizt: whats stops that guy from coming back thestringpuller
thestringpuller: he can never use that handle again
thestringpuller: or that gpg key
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00014994 = 0.1499 BTC [+] {6}
danielpbarron: there is a demand for scammers and individuals like that simply supply it
thestringpuller: he could start anew, turning over a new leaf
thestringpuller: but then what happens when we find out the new person is actually an old known scammer?
twizt: and how is being unable to use handle or gpg key preventing anything?
thestringpuller: because trust is everything
danielpbarron: twizt: do you trust anybody?
thestringpuller: 3 years of building trust takes forever
twizt: well if they are taking 500+ bitcoins everytime
twizt: better than minimum wage job right?
danielpbarron: heh, unless my math is wrong here.. i think it would take exactly 3 years, thestringpuller
danielpbarron: twizt: if you can pull then off then by all means, do it
danielpbarron: that* ugh
thestringpuller: scamming isn't really a good business model
twizt: nah i dont have the patience to be a sociopath
danielpbarron: if you think 500 BTC is a lot....
thestringpuller: some people are willing to tarnish their WoT reputation, but that makes the non scammers that much more trustworthy
twizt: losing my trust is not worth 500+ bitcoins
kakobrekla: twbt wot is a tool, like a map, it wont do the job by itself, you have to know how to read it, then it helps.
kakobrekla: twizt
thestringpuller: twizt: exactly
twizt: i think u misread
twizt: who cares how long someone has trust
twizt: if that 1 time they fuck up after 3 years
danielpbarron: all the trust in the world doesn't make up for woefully incompetent business plans, which describes almost all Bitcoin scams
twizt: my bet would be against the most 'trustworthy'
twizt: ttfu
twizt: time till fuck up
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.08295533 = 0.5807 BTC [+] {3}
punkman: that's why you don't invest in people that are trying to pump&dump reputation at BTCJam
danielpbarron: there are escrows and hedges and bla bla; yeah someone can have a change of heart and run with the money, but if you planned correctly there should be contingency plans
twizt: if wot had peoples names and addresses
twizt: secued
twizt: and only doxed on fuck up
twizt: then maybe i see y wot would be great
twizt: secured*
danielpbarron: because those things can't be forged..
kakobrekla: you are delirious
kakobrekla: go get him tiger.
twizt: yea but we cant have that now right, cuz people gotta stay anon lol
twizt: sorry for delirium8
danielpbarron slaps twizt
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0075 = 0.375 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3265 @ 0.00014999 = 0.4897 BTC [-] {3}
kakobrekla: btw twizt many people in the wot dont hide their identities, including me.
Namworld: That's not too far from me on my IDs. When I had long hair that is.
twizt: thats good kakobrekla
danielpbarron: or me (nick is real name)
Namworld: I now cut my hair short.
thestringpuller: alberto?
thestringpuller: the btc day trade guy?
thestringpuller: @ kakobrekla
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1308 @ 0.00015 = 0.1962 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: labcoin, bitdaytrade, btcrebate ,... you name it
kakobrekla: also iirc kronos.io
kakobrekla: and two non btc scams before that
kakobrekla: at least.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3692 @ 0.00015 = 0.5538 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.0858 = 0.1716 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: guy seems to have a nice track record
thestringpuller: damn son
danielpbarron: heh, dr. whatshisface negged kakobrekla; that's a positive in my book
kakobrekla: ah, dr foreskin
Apocalyptic: ;;gettrust kakobrekla
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user Apocalyptic to user kakobrekla: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 8 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=Apocalyptic&dest=kakobrekla | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kakobrekla | Rated since: Fri May 13 18:50:53 2011
danielpbarron: reading that guy's bio is a riot
Apocalyptic: nice profile kako, not one neg
Apocalyptic: even Usagi rated you +3
kakobrekla: well, i had a short contract with him very early on. he paid ok.
kakobrekla: but iirc i removed the rating to him later on
kakobrekla: when thingy got fucked.
kakobrekla: things*
kakobrekla: but yeah, he lost, had to swallow a big loss and he did.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.04806131 = 1.9225 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0347 = 0.1388 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0347 = 0.1388 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 115 @ 0.0008884 = 0.1022 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 300 @ 0.00035241 = 0.1057 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.05479908 = 0.2192 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.08299776 = 0.415 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.08299776 = 0.498 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2846 @ 0.00097242 = 2.7675 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 980 @ 0.00017733 = 0.1738 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00015 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.58018111 = 2.9009 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00097591 = 12.1989 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 60 @ 0.0075 = 0.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7573 @ 0.00097591 = 7.3906 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.05479902 = 0.1644 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0348 = 0.1044 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 901 @ 0.00015 = 0.1352 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0075 = 0.375 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00097092 = 11.5539 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]
Mats_cd03: If i bought s.mpoe this month would i see dividends in the following period considering the outsized payment in march
jurov: Mats_cd03: did you actually read the reports?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00553528 = 0.2823 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00550358 = 0.1926 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58010001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.08299776 = 0.415 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.0001978 = 0.1978 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 6010 @ 0.00019833 = 1.192 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04998438 = 0.5998 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00019999 = 0.4 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 4000 @ 0.00019999 = 0.8 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3000 @ 0.00019999 = 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00096878 = 2.422 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 15 @ 0.0075 = 0.1125 BTC [+]
jurov: Mats_cd03: so why did you think s.mpoe is going to stop paying divs?
Mats_cd03: i read something in here suggesting that was the case
jurov: that would be properly announced on trilema and amply discussed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 3807 @ 0.0000792 = 0.3015 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.01160999 = 0.1277 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 76 @ 0.00146083 = 0.111 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0075 = 0.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0499844 = 0.2499 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1330 @ 0.00019998 = 0.266 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10229 @ 0.00096334 = 9.854 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: that's pretty much my past 24 hours right there
nubbins`: now, a quick power nap before the album release show where all this shit is being sold
thestringpuller: it should all be burned
thestringpuller: like an effigy!
thestringpuller: BURN IT TO THE GROUND
thestringpuller: ;;calc 100/483
gribble: 0.207039337474
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 5250 @ 0.00019998 = 1.0499 BTC [+] {3}
truffles: take off the blue animal thing improves that one
truffles: burn the others
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03529999 = 0.1059 BTC [+]
nubbins` carefully writes down comments and buries them in a small hole in the backyard
nubbins`: THANKS FOR THE INPUT GUISE
truffles: burn it with the other stuff
truffles: it looks like clutter though, just trying to help out
nubbins`: noted. it looks the way it looks on purpose :D
truffles: i c that
nubbins`: fun fact, the blue is actually the original
truffles: id like em better as 2 separate works
truffles: u save on ink too :D
jurov: seems truffles needs dick surgery
truffles: why does it need to be shredded
nubbins`: coffee-beer-smokables-music
nubbins`: peace
benkay: ;;later tell nubbins` sounds like a great day
gribble: The operation succeeded.
benkay: i'll just squeeze this beer: http://pitchlandia.com/faq/
benkay: "20 startups make their pitch. The crowd makes its choices. The top 10 startups receive equal funding."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 23 @ 0.04998894 = 1.1497 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 23 @ 0.03473478 = 0.7989 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: 22 years old, significant fraction of btc on deposit at bitstamp, engineer at facebook, can't diddle his dollas: http://rasmuzen.com/bitstamp
kakobrekla: theres several issues here
kakobrekla: idiot customers and idiot service provider
kakobrekla: the result, well, there it is.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 141 @ 0.00344001 = 0.485 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 138 @ 0.00342792 = 0.4731 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.05 = 1.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00096753 = 10.3042 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00096753 = 8.1756 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 460.96, Best ask: 463.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.04000, Last trade: 463.0, 24 hour volume: 6528.94404985, 24 hour low: 441.25, 24 hour high: 465.0, 24 hour vwap: 452.917999845
mircea_popescu: s.mg report incoming with apologies for teh delay
mircea_popescu: apparently scheduled posts dun work for some reason.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 569 @ 0.00017901 = 0.1019 BTC [-]
ozbot: ABN Amro Ex-CEO Found Dead | Zero Hedge
mircea_popescu: jurov you know, enforcing boundaries has little to do with despising. a man may plow with six oxen, and may not sleep with oxen in his bed.
mircea_popescu: doesn't mean he despises the beasts nao.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the bodies getting bigger...
asciilifeform: this promises to end like that folk tale - the executioner is ordered to chop his own head.
mircea_popescu: last banker up turn off the lights.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 34 @ 0.08299776 = 2.8219 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: from the fucktarded "advertisments" on zero hedge :
mircea_popescu: "A Long Time Product Tester Revels the Secrets to Getting FREE Products"
kakobrekla: by being a whore. nuttin new.
mircea_popescu: revels/reveals is the butt :D
kakobrekla: ah i only skimmed
kakobrekla: nondiLigently.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla just for that i pulled up the only twelve or so pages where i had misspelled it and FIXED IT
mircea_popescu: so now you got NOTHING
kakobrekla: btw that template you sent me last time still had it fyi.
mircea_popescu: omfg haters gonna haet
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58012171 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: lolk, ill stop
bounce: hatters gonna hat
mircea_popescu: i think ima just negrate the dictionary till they fix it my way.
kakobrekla: heheh
mircea_popescu: i'm not eeven the only oine btw, for some reason dill is fucking popular with finance people.
ozbot: ArsDigita: From Start-Up to Bust-Up
kakobrekla: yeah dunno whats up with that, havent seen pornstars go googling for 'dilldo'
mircea_popescu: it's from all the pickles.
mircea_popescu: so who's this cgcardona fellow
mircea_popescu: i dunno, some hawaiian from teh logs.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: congrats are in order. << ty.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00096313 = 3.4191 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: dont tell me you talked to doog ? :D
mircea_popescu: this was about nefario.
kakobrekla: yea but doog stopped coding it
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron:
mircea_popescu: his is a clever system, you aren't paying to read the article forever; you're paying for the request to the server (which might happen multiple times per article if you keep going back to re-read) << actuallyt, you can reload the article x times and it won't cut further credits.
kakobrekla: thats why everything is on halt
kakobrekla: afaik
mircea_popescu: pankkake: I wouldn't have an issue with a global paywall. if I have to register to every website, fuck it << this man hates freedom!
pankkake: I regreted what I wrote but - I mean an easy to use service to pay by the page
mircea_popescu: holy hell 20% ? we're at 6bn ?!
mircea_popescu: pankkake in a mid to long term perspective i suspect the trilema system may actually work
mircea_popescu: as more worthwhile sites implement it eventually you'd prolly have a centralizer site, select all you want from there
mircea_popescu: then it micropays for you as needed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00096492 = 1.5439 BTC [+]
ozbot: 6.120 billion | Next Diff in 1926 blocks | Estimated Change: 7.3495% in 12d 8h 35m 10s
mircea_popescu: Crown Commercial Service (CCS) - a new cabinet office department that handles public sector purcasing and commercial operations - said in a statement, "By combining demand, on behalf of Central Government departments and the wider public sector, Crown Commercial Service has demonstrated the benefits of government working as a single customer to achieve best value for the taxpayer, whilst continuing to build good worki
mircea_popescu: ng relationships with our technology suppliers."
mircea_popescu: this is what the uk comissariat imagines buying more xp means.
mircea_popescu: my mind's well boggled.
mircea_popescu: punkman: farming's hard work for most people << not harder than a good workout at the gym. except instead of paying for membership, you get paid.
mircea_popescu: twizt: lol companies cant go public without being in here? < not successfuly, no.
mircea_popescu: and you know, talk to them bout repping, why not.
mike_c: i was a big admirer of philip greenspun. i attended one of arsdigita's classes in boston. reading that article makes me sick.
mircea_popescu: mike_c he sounds quite admirable, especially when he's doing the narration. third parties... well more of a mixed bag.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ahh that bitdaytrade thing was epic.
mircea_popescu: possibly my favourite incompetence story in the history of btc. that and the early polish dudes.
kakobrekla: i dont think i ever saw code as bad as that btw
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 were you thinking of the bitbet overpay last month ?
kakobrekla: the amt of coin aa managed to fuck up is amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla dude are you kidding me ? mysql/php exchange, with mysql_insert(straight-get-reference)
mircea_popescu: it was beyond the believable, it literally said, "take the string from the url and put it in the db as is"
joecool: sounds legit
mircea_popescu: just absolutely incredible, i mean people may occasionally get the idea that their car doesn't need gasoline to run, not really. so they run it on whatever, toluene
mircea_popescu: hair spray, moonshine
mircea_popescu: but to actually try to use a mixture of sugar and quick setting cement as fuel ?!
joecool: i dunno, i used grease once and it worked ok
mircea_popescu: was it made by john deere ?
joecool: people said it sounded like it was, VW made it
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/6fRBitc.jpg this looks pretty workable.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.034634 = 0.5195 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00096421 = 8.8707 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00019997 = 0.2 BTC [+] {3}
MisterE: sounds like CCS was set up just to offload the blame for that retarded $9mil USD XP support contract.
mircea_popescu: possible.
mircea_popescu: not the first time the 51st state is used for a sort of current day new jersey
joecool: dirty jerz
mircea_popescu: "Let's not succumb to this collectivist Eastern Europe sucks mentality. Eastern Europe is not the issue here. Best Bitcoin exchange Bitstamp is operated from Slovenia and second best, BTC-e is run from Bulgaria."
mircea_popescu: see kakobrekla ? eastern europe is not the issue here.
mircea_popescu: The committee also criticises the Daily Mail and The Daily Telegraphfor placing “heavy reliance . . . on the ability of their readers to distinguish between fact and opinion on climate science”.
mircea_popescu: it's kinda funny that just as bitcoin organises one end of the spectrum towards individualism,
mircea_popescu: teh state is getting increasingly more collectivist too.
mircea_popescu: i guess to no-one's surprise.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00096449 = 1.0609 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 842 @ 0.00018125 = 0.1526 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03461 = 0.2769 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.05110001 = 0.5621 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1500 @ 0.00019998 = 0.3 BTC [+] {2}
cryptolemming: Evening / morning, Mircea mind if I ask what became of the SEC situation, did they simply leave it be or leave it with some element of threat to return? was an interesting situation.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6108 @ 0.00096444 = 5.8908 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: cryptolemming nothing really.
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't be political to issue threats in any case. i guess they didn't get what they wanted and are considering their options.
cryptolemming: can't help but assume the attention will begin to trickle down to entities such as just-dice, don't know enough to know if they'd even really care about something so relatively small.
mircea_popescu: tbh, it'd seem the vast majority of the internet population is sorely legally illiterate and otherwise quite psychotic.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05010663 = 0.5011 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: sec is just trying to find its place in this new world, it's just common sense they'd come to talk to me about it.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea what all the panic is all about.
mircea_popescu: well yes.
cryptolemming: it does make sense they'd talk to you about it yeah
cryptolemming: haven't noticed much panic, although haven't spent much time here either, everything seems fine otherwise
mircea_popescu: "with some element of threat" ; " the attention will begin to trickle down", to not even go into teh forum reddit etc.
mircea_popescu: you'd think fort sumter was fired on last week.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.04871969 = 0.9257 BTC [-] {5}
cryptolemming: really, guess the wording was a bit strong
mircea_popescu: but anyway!
chetty: just a lot of nuts out to pump the drama
cryptolemming: seems like a lot of artifical extensions are being made from a couple slightly although subjectively perceived over-dramatic words
cryptolemming: curious about sec, was an interesting situation, curious about jd, launching something similar soon from a not-so-friendly jurisdiction, it's just chatter
cryptolemming: i don't think there's anything to worry about
cryptolemming: can explore topics neutrally, nm though sure
mircea_popescu: what's jd launching ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.05349988 = 0.8025 BTC [+] {2}
cryptolemming: nothing afaik, I'm launching something similar, these topics are thus more interesting atm
cryptolemming: not really all that interesting though, so nm
mircea_popescu: you're launching something similar to what, jd ?
cryptolemming: in the sense that we are allowing bankrollers yes, and offering a game of chance
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mike_c: awesome!
kakobrekla: also spam has found your blog again :>
mike_c: at least someone is commenting.
kakobrekla: anyway the last parameter there will tell you the relative size of the trade
kakobrekla: basically it tells you the effective leverage for the trade
ThickAsThieves: my post on "Narcotic Checkpoints" is now the hottest thing in the Facebook community page
ThickAsThieves: moderators are asking if i can move it to a "rants" area now that it has 150 posts and is dominating the feed
ThickAsThieves: "I'm no longer commenting on the dumbest topic I've heard in my life! This is ignorant! One day you will need the police for something and I hope they are not there to help you! You don't deserve the kindness that they put out in the community everyday! Go to court, hire a lawyer do whatever you want but plez post what happens when they laugh you out of there!"
ThickAsThieves: upon inspection of her page, there is a baby photo, wearin a Sheriff badge
ThickAsThieves: i'll probably be harassed anywhere i go now...
iamnot_: facebook community page?
ThickAsThieves: yeah we have a group thingie in facebook
ThickAsThieves: that the community uses
ThickAsThieves: mostly to ask fro plumber recommendations n shit
iamnot_: lol
ThickAsThieves: i replied "I do appreciate officers and their service. The law is an ever-evolving thing, with precedents and incidents defining its meaning constantly. I'm not calling them evil, but I am saying that NCs might be out of bounds. Your malice towards me is unfortunate, as no matter how much I we disagree, I do hope someone is there to help you anytime you may need it."
ThickAsThieves: to which she says (remember she's done commenting!) "I'm sure they will definitely be there to help me! Unfortunately they can't pick and choose who they help....I'm sure you would be on the NO help list!"
ozbot: How to Use There, Their and They're (with Examples) - wikiHow
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.03793947 = 0.2656 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0474 = 0.237 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.05250018 = 0.5775 BTC [-] {2}
mike_c: kakobrekla: ah, cool about the leverage. is there a delay on it?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.05315774 = 1.3821 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: theres a few things i must finish to make it completely automagic, after that trades will show as soon as they are closed (refreshed every 10 min or so)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.05339999 = 0.6408 BTC [+] {2}
mike_c: nice
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05367749 = 0.3221 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 4969 @ 0.0001809 = 0.8989 BTC [-] {10}
moiety: mew
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00096421 = 22.2733 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60699998 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: poor tat, causing trouble wherever he goes because he's a mp sock
ozbot: Peercover features 42Coin Exchange | 42 Coin – Official News
mircea_popescu: "Have you ever wanted to trade your Crypto Currencies against GOLD, SILVER, Platinum? Now you can"
moiety: mircea_popescu: anyone having their own opinion tends to be sock-accused in my experience
chetty: ThickAsThieves, a usual case of worship 'authority', never question
mircea_popescu: yeah totally. couldn't before, since about 2011
kakobrekla: everyone is the first and the biggest.
mircea_popescu: i guess "the first and biggest" sounds better than "the derpiest and cluelessest"
kakobrekla googles
kakobrekla: it does.
MisterE: or the "world's premiere site for foo"
mircea_popescu: i think that's premier
kakobrekla: premiere tumbleweed.
kakobrekla: whatevers
mircea_popescu: actually it's "whatever"
kakobrekla: actually its "..."
MisterE: I spel American
kakobrekla: i scam somali
kakobrekla: s/scam/spell
MisterE: lol
chetty: kakobrekla, same thing
mircea_popescu: vragnaroda, whom only the eldest perhaps still remember, was famously accused by some derp of "being a grammer naxi that corecteing people 24/7"
moiety: ;; later tell BingoBoingo i get now it was a joke, i didn't before.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
moiety: does later tell work in gribble pms?
mircea_popescu: i like how the gold bars get etching and shit
mircea_popescu: but the silver ain't cool enough for school.
kakobrekla: btw where did vrag go
kakobrekla: he produced a lot of lines.
kakobrekla: if my memory serves me right.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 776 @ 0.00096492 = 0.7488 BTC [+]
decimation: pat buchanan has some good posts on Taki's mag: http://takimag.com/article/is_putin_one_of_us_patrick_buchanan
kakobrekla: read it "taaki mag" and almost had a heart attack.
ozbot: 42-COIN BIG BIG BIG Extreme info alert for cryptocoin buyers. - YouTube
mircea_popescu: who knows
tg2: lol
tg2: mircea_popescu, you better watch that and get you some good crypto advice
mircea_popescu: decimation you mean taki of the spectator ?
mircea_popescu: tg2 transcript ?
MisterE: break it down for us tg2
jborkl: Lol they are selling kilo bars?
ozbot: High life » The Spectator
MisterE: wtf? 2.2lbs?
mircea_popescu: jborkl yeah. two thirds of a bar gets you all of ripple.
jborkl: Lol
decimation: yeah the same guy
ozbot: Taki Theodoracopulos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
jborkl: Just don't assey them
jborkl: Sp
MisterE: I dunno why it looks like lead underneath, it says right on the bar 99.9% fine
jborkl: Solig tungsten core
MisterE: tungsten heavy like that?
jborkl: It is the same density as gold
jborkl: Almost exactly
MisterE: oh wow
mircea_popescu: decimation that wikipedia article is perhaps the best indictment of the "wikipedia" notion of an encyclopedia one could devise.
mircea_popescu: seriously, that's all they have to say about taki, that he called some simian looking jew "homely" and that fascists taking over greece'd be an improvement over the current sort of socialists ?
mircea_popescu: with culture like this illiteracy seems an impossibility.
decimation: well, the wikipedia is the lowest common denominator of american thinking
tg2: lol transcript: dude is retarded. I watch that video when I want to feel better about my crypto portfolio.
decimation: so it's pretty much facebook socialism
decimation: fred reed money quote: "My wife Violeta, a Mexican, describes the United States as a Third World country with a First World infrastructure (un pais tercermundista con infraestructura primermundista)"
mircea_popescu: not anymore.
decimation: yeah the infrastructure is getting very spotty
mircea_popescu: it shocked me what poor state of repair the infrastructure was
mircea_popescu: and this was a decade ago.
jborkl: Taki s haircut makes bitcoin drop 10% in value
MisterE: bridges falling apart it's amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
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