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assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.49199 = 4.476 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49199 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 580 @ 0.00172499 = 1.0005 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1260 @ 0.00071402 = 0.8997 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49199 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.49199 = 2.984 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.492 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.01482 = 0.0296 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 19 @ 0.01485 = 0.2822 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2305 @ 0.00071245 = 1.6422 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00070105 = 16.9654 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0145 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13285 @ 0.00069824 = 9.2761 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: asic miner sold all of their blades in less than 2 hours.. 50 of them!
Chaaang-Noi: and he claims to be able to ship many more, :)
inhies_: yup yup
inhies_: good news indeed
inhies_: how many shares are there?
inhies_: 400k?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10814 @ 0.00068973 = 7.4587 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00068684 = 2.0262 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7286 @ 0.00068375 = 4.9818 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: 400k but only 163k outstanding
Chaaang-Noi: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.7400 relates to am's stock price more than btc atm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 44 @ 0.01518999 = 0.6684 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 36 @ 0.01519 = 0.5468 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 9 @ 0.010098 = 0.0909 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.494 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069805 = 3.0163 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17279 @ 0.00069824 = 12.0649 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 300 @ 0.014745 = 4.4235 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.01519 = 0.0608 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4251 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 26 @ 0.01519 = 0.3949 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 33 @ 0.014701 = 0.4851 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 60 @ 0.0147 = 0.882 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.014571 = 0.0291 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 11 @ 0.014501 = 0.1595 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 300 @ 0.014501 = 4.3503 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 94 @ 0.0145 = 1.363 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.492 = 4.476 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.493 = 5.972 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4925 BTC [-]
KRS1: u can write a rootkit into the kernel?
KRS1: it might help facilitate a rootkit's workings but ..no.
dub: first bottle of champaign in the new house down
KRS1: how much for a pair of these in BTC
KRS1: bah nvm..guess thats only available in Romania
FabianB_: QA rejected? lol
KRS1: yeah must be discount for that
KRS1: thats actually kind of funny i didnt notice it at first
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01484 BTC [+]
KRS1: haha thats a good one..roflcopter and all
Chaaang-Noi: for the people following the german house thing, i think its legit after all, i made a bid.
Chaaang-Noi: however he is now demanding 150 btc reserve so meh.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.00339 = 0.1695 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 96 @ 0.003605 = 0.3461 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 154 @ 0.003609 = 0.5558 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 19 @ 0.003609 = 0.0686 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 7 @ 0.00105 = 0.0074 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.015 = 0.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010098 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00304 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 33 @ 0.016499 = 0.5445 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 67 @ 0.0165 = 1.1055 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.1079 = 2.158 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 380 @ 0.00105 = 0.399 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.00325138 = 8.4536 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1863 @ 0.00323672 = 6.03 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4929 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16481 @ 0.00069824 = 11.5077 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4667 @ 0.00070527 = 3.2915 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010098 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 113 @ 0.00105 = 0.1187 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2398 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 53 @ 0.001199 = 0.0635 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00069809 = 6.7366 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069664 = 3.0102 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17672 @ 0.00069643 = 12.3073 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 115.50003, Best ask: 115.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19997, Last trade: 115.69000, 24 hour volume: 60390.73315900, 24 hour low: 114.00000, 24 hour high: 122.50000, 24 hour vwap: 118.55923
KRS1: how'dy
mircea_popescu: pretty good actually.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1233 @ 0.00070527 = 0.8696 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070586 = 3.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00070587 = 4.9411 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3746 @ 0.00071052 = 2.6616 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the onion is seriously the most respectable us news source.
Chaaang-Noi: the onion can be prettygood
mircea_popescu: of course their intent is to lampoon normal female maturation into "Something bad". as if staying a retarded 7yo is somehow the ideal and we all missed the memo.
Chaaang-Noi: i s da board, btc world is the slow
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.0147 = 0.2646 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.01468 = 0.4698 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 93 @ 0.01475001 = 1.3718 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 408 @ 0.01475 = 6.018 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.01484 = 0.2523 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 31 @ 0.01485 = 0.4604 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.01488 = 0.0298 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 96 @ 0.01489 = 1.4294 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.493 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.495 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.4968 = 14.968 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4969 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.01468 = 0.1468 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i lolled in my absent beard.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.495 BTC [-]
jurov: how big btc price expectation does this asic fever show?
jurov: did anyone do some maffs?
truffles: Chaang isnt the bidding over 100btc
jurov: but he bought asicminer, no?
mircea_popescu: jurov maths not allowed
truffles: talking about the German house
mircea_popescu: i actually suspect a large section of the btc failnoobs are here because they think bitcoin being based on maffs means that it'll do all the maffing for them
jurov: and im talking about asics
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3578 @ 0.00069643 = 2.4918 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068919 = 2.978 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 651 @ 0.00068918 = 0.4487 BTC [-]
jurov: if these failnoobs managed to put together few hundred K$ of capital, then i'd agree
truffles: 2+2 isnt the only kind of math
jurov: but we're seeing buch bigger asic investment than that
jurov: what does the house has with that?
mircea_popescu: jurov you actually saw this ?
mircea_popescu: or did you see it reported ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 25 @ 0.00099 = 0.0248 BTC [-]
jurov: no
mircea_popescu: It says on their website:
mircea_popescu: "The systems Vircurex.com and Cryptostocks.com have been taken offline over the weekend
mircea_popescu: Please do not deposit any further coins to your Vircurex accounts. We must assume that the wallet has been compromised."
mircea_popescu: i guess all the people buying into the ipo got owned huh.
jurov: yes i saw that. but they claim majority of coins was in cold store, just have to rebuild server completely
mircea_popescu: can't be too good for share price.
truffles: <jurov> what does the house has with that?>> nothing, i just looked at the post
jurov: yes, but...it's like 4th time with vircurex. everyone got used to it
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.49 = 5.96 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070327 = 3.0388 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 816 @ 0.00070342 = 0.574 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: truffles> Chaang isnt the bidding over 100btc for waht?
Chaaang-Noi: of german house, yeah i did 50
Chaaang-Noi: that guy wont sell it i bet, he is demanding 150 btc now
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01512 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01485 = 0.7425 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.4974 = 8.9844 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4974 BTC [+]
truffles: <Chaaang-Noi> that guy wont sell it i bet, he is demanding 150 btc now>> oh i didnt see the demand heh
truffles: i bet he thought it would go really high
Chaaang-Noi: he said no reserve
Chaaang-Noi: now he is demanding 150, so i bid 50 from the 44.44444 or whatever
truffles: i thouth i saw 110 or 115 somewhere
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 165 @ 0.003013 = 0.4971 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 109 @ 0.003012 = 0.3283 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.00301 = 0.1505 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 876 @ 0.003 = 2.628 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: not that i saw
KRS1: heh
truffles: i think theyre going to re-do the auction in another thread of things dont go as planned
Chaaang-Noi: he tried that
Chaaang-Noi: im okay if he does re do it as long as there is no reserve
Chaaang-Noi: house is not worth 150 btc
Chaaang-Noi: 50 btc is about it
truffles: u dont want to go hunting in Canada ?
truffles: if u do get it, all of btc knows where to find u
Chaaang-Noi: its not like im going to live there (often)
truffles: is that your wife in profile pic?
truffles: she's hawt
Chaaang-Noi: yeah, and yeah
truffles: u have such a babyface
Chaaang-Noi: yeah i look damn young for my age
kakobrekla: lol mircea_popescu
truffles: anyways, i dont think u want that house
truffles: although u seem rly determined to get what you want heh
Chaaang-Noi: i think i can resell it and make money if i get it for 50 btc
Chaaang-Noi: if he wont sell it to me, i can call him a scammer if he wants to be a bitch in the future
truffles: if its valued at 277 like he says whyd he want to sell it for btc
Chaaang-Noi: i think he is a pot head
Chaaang-Noi: i think he one of the guys that got into btc cuz silk road :/
truffles: turrble
Chaaang-Noi: he just does not seem that bright, who sells a house online in a qweek with no address or escrow? lol
truffles: too good to be true
truffles: well todays the deadline
truffles: looking forward to the shenanigans
Chaaang-Noi: yeah, i wont wait up for it
Chaaang-Noi: it wont go over 150
truffles: so u'd renovate before reselling?
KRS1: heh yes..the onion deserves some props for that article
Chaaang-Noi: maybe no idea, id let it sit fora few years honestly
Chaaang-Noi: got better shit to do
KRS1: needed moar illustrations though..i didnt get a good idea for just how beautiful the blossom became.
truffles: if what whomever said is true, 5 yrs til u can bulldozer it
truffles: KRS1 what?
Chaaang-Noi: the outside looked really nice
KRS1: the blossom article in the onion
truffles: link!
KRS1: umms..
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068932 = 2.9786 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26829 @ 0.00068918 = 18.49 BTC [-]
KRS1: there
mircea_popescu: KRS1 good point, they did fail at that.
Chaaang-Noi: 17s are still taboo in the usa, theyd never show as much as they should...
truffles: oh thanks
ThickAsThieves: heh, friedcat sold 50 more blades overnight https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201753.0
ThickAsThieves: 50btc ea
truffles: i had to tell my brain "this is an onion article" heh
KRS1: yeah kinda different huh
ThickAsThieves: i almost never find the Onion to be funny
ThickAsThieves: it's like Mad Magazine for adults
truffles: some news ive come across sound like theyre out of the onion..
kakobrekla: 50btc per blade?
kakobrekla: does this solve 2 blocks in its lifetime?
ThickAsThieves: not my concern
Chaaang-Noi: kako they sold 50 of them in less than 2 hours and people bid for 50 more
Chaaang-Noi: kako who gives a fuck if you hold AM stock eh? :)
kakobrekla: i dont
Chaaang-Noi: why you want to buy a blad then?
ThickAsThieves: he doesnt
kakobrekla: just curious mostly
Chaaang-Noi: maybe its just shock of the made btc the AM stock holders are getting :)
Chaaang-Noi: yeah, i do wonder if its worth what people are paying
kakobrekla: id give 10 btc for it tops
mircea_popescu: Chaaang-Noi you know, i've been reviewing this. 0.0007 per share per week does not go very far.
Chaaang-Noi: but i have almost no hope that bfl will ship in the next 6 months their 25 ghs units or bigger
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.0007 * 400000 * 4
gribble: 1120
ThickAsThieves: so if they pay that out in divs, we might hit .015 div this week
Chaaang-Noi: mp last week was .0011
ThickAsThieves: maybe more
mircea_popescu: let me explain this better :
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 20007 / 4 / 400000
gribble: 0.012504375
Chaaang-Noi: last week was .0011 and that was not with selling anything
Chaaang-Noi: just being 20% of the network
mircea_popescu: you need to hit 0.012 for 4 weeks straigjht to equal s.dice
mircea_popescu: that's 10x what it's doing now, for 4 weeks straight.
Chaaang-Noi: lol dice
ThickAsThieves: mp, that will happen
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves maybe it will. he was arguing really strongly that am is a contender two days ago.
mircea_popescu: i did the math, turns out he's a degree of magnitude off, as per usual
mircea_popescu: the funny thing with Chaaang-Noi is that math illiterate people are equally likely to blow a degree of magnitude either direction
Chaaang-Noi: am has been paying out for 2 months, sdice for a year, but like i said, come back in a year andsee what is up :)
mircea_popescu: he however only blows it the direction that favours his bias.
ThickAsThieves: theyll keep selling products, and ramping up hash rate to keep or exceed current % for at least month
ThickAsThieves: and then he'll probably announce some new product
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves maybe so. this discussion is not about the future however.
Chaaang-Noi: mp im not sure what you are attacking? its pretty clear am is better investment at ipo than s dice, why is it so hard for you to understand?
mircea_popescu: Chaaang-Noi you claimed coupla days ago that am is going to pay more div than s.dice
Chaaang-Noi: yeah, the future counts, if you only want to look at the last 2 months AM kills s.dice
mircea_popescu: it is not, and it's not even close, at all.
ThickAsThieves: sdice got a PR person, thats a good sign
ThickAsThieves: of course that person's wages will polish off 10-25% of profits this month...
Chaaang-Noi: mp AM will in its lifetime pay shit loads more than sdice as a percentage of money invested
ThickAsThieves: Chaang we d can't know that
mircea_popescu: look. s.dice has maid and paid ~70k btc so far.
ThickAsThieves: SDICE can still turn things around
Chaaang-Noi: i know, that is why i said i will come back in a yeah and lulz
mircea_popescu: asicminer is a. never got that much invested ; b. never got that much traded in its lifetime history ; c. barely paid 10% of that in dividends so far.
mircea_popescu: they were both started about the same time (april 2012)
mircea_popescu: that's the whole story. stop confounding your hopes for the future with the history of the world,
mircea_popescu: they're not cognates.
Chaaang-Noi: mp who cares what a company pays out, im talking about making the most btc per money invested (what is better 5 btc on 1 btc invested or 234095834 on 340958039458908345098304958093459034 invested?
mircea_popescu: not everybody is desperately trying to turn their fifty bucks into a million.
Chaaang-Noi: AM is up what 1500% and paid 3005 in divs? s.dice is what down 20% and paid what 30% in divs? lol
mircea_popescu: and quite frankly i dislike that particular outlook because it's just bad for business, and for bitcoin in general.
Chaaang-Noi: well mp, i could give a flying fuck and think you are just jelly :)
mircea_popescu: sure, you tend to think whatever's convenient at the moment,
mircea_popescu: which is why only new people give a shit what you think.
Chaaang-Noi: i turned 5k usd into a millionn, so the fuck what?
KRS1: wait..you can turn fifty bucks into a million with this bitcoin stuff
mircea_popescu: back to the matter at hand : pumping is a bad idea. universally.
mircea_popescu: and will end in bitchslapping. universally.
mircea_popescu: gigavps is dead.
Chaaang-Noi: i could care less what people think about me, im a fucking goat!
mircea_popescu: you're more resilient than him because you have no backbone, but that doesn't amount to much.
KRS1: i could use some pumps yo..where they at
Chaaang-Noi: krs1 k5 usd worth of AM at ipo is worth about a million or so now
KRS1: goddamn
Chaaang-Noi: mp going to attack my backbone cuz he cant take my logic :? jelly man, its jsut sad
KRS1: and i probably remember looking at the shares and bein all like..pfft.
truffles: this btc stuff is srs biz
Chaaang-Noi: ill be riddin in my lambo, mp be hatin,
KRS1: they see me rollin...they hatin....
truffles: riding dirty r u
Chaaang-Noi: i will be
KRS1: usually..i stepped up the ante a bit lately though.
KRS1: Chaang-Noi be like..."I WOKE UP IN A NEW BUGATTI"
KRS1: thats gangster
KRS1: good for you bro..
Chaaang-Noi: fuck they are like 3.5 million euro?
KRS1: yeh..its a new rap song too.
Chaaang-Noi: even if i had that to spend on a car id not
kakobrekla: Chaaang-Noi you got a mil in AM?
KRS1: i dun like the song though its annoying
Chaaang-Noi: kako ill ahve to do the maffs hold on
kakobrekla: Chaaang-Noi: sell.
truffles: id keep it in the garage
KRS1: although I'd be nervous about those shares..
KRS1: must be really nice dividends
ThickAsThieves: I bought my first 100 AM shares from Chaang
Chaaang-Noi: my 5k usd investment would not be worth 957,000 at current prices, but i ahve been slowly selling all the way up so no, i dont have a million in AM (oh but shit, forgot about all the dividends,that is just stock price)
Chaaang-Noi: id say i made ball park 800k usd in AM
kakobrekla: id pull out
Chaaang-Noi: but i really killed it in LTC
KRS1: LTC still have room to go?
Chaaang-Noi: 400k ltc, muhahahaha
Chaaang-Noi: iv been selling ltc hard since 6$
KRS1: nice
Chaaang-Noi: ijust sold 5k more tonight and 10k last night
KRS1: does it still have future value and growth in your opinion?
truffles: Chaaang u could afford 150 btc..
Chaaang-Noi: im moving all that shit back into btc
kakobrekla: i still cant belive those ltc are valued so high
Chaaang-Noi: but wtf am i going to do with a dirt house in germany?
Chaaang-Noi: kakop im shocked too
Chaaang-Noi: still $3!
truffles: bling it up
Chaaang-Noi: mp will get jelly and go burn it down
kakobrekla: ltc is like bitcoin 3years ago
kakobrekla: 5 scam sites accept it
KRS1: so that should say something about the future of ltc
ThickAsThieves: not necessarily
Chaaang-Noi: kako i think gox will not list it, and people will lose interest, i might buy back in when it goes way less than it is now
Chaaang-Noi: i only hold like 100k now, sold more for btc (some fiat)
Chaaang-Noi: there be like 2k altcoins now, but namecoin and ltc has been around
ThickAsThieves: ltc only real use is an instrument to play off BTC
ThickAsThieves: you can mine w GPU to sell for BTC
KRS1: thats the only value I see imo
ThickAsThieves: you can speculated a bit against BTC/USD
ThickAsThieves: speculate*
ThickAsThieves: without BTC, LTC is useless
KRS1: but not the other way around right?
Chaaang-Noi: if btc breaks or forks itself ltc is all we gotz
ThickAsThieves: not true
ThickAsThieves: just pick a fork
Chaaang-Noi: i mostly got into ltc so hard cuz i thought if btc forks itself ltc willbe king
ThickAsThieves: both could even coexist
Chaaang-Noi: well, maybe i got lucky, i dont give a fuck
KRS1: on same blockchain?
ThickAsThieves: if it forked there'd be two chains
ThickAsThieves: and we dont know how peopel would react
ThickAsThieves: maybe they respect both separately
ThickAsThieves: and the value halves
KRS1: some btc would not be able to be verified right
ThickAsThieves: maybe someone makes BTC 2.0 plan and lets peopel migrate
ThickAsThieves: maybe dev should come with a plan in the case of a real fork
KRS1: like Luke-Jr who say a 51% attack of LTC will happen with a few FPGA's
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1920 @ 0.00068918 = 1.3232 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10303 @ 0.00068375 = 7.0447 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00068374 = 7.5553 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4827 @ 0.00068 = 3.2824 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: lol, people are still bidding on those AM blades knowing auction is over, in hopes of forming a queue for next offering
KRS1: my bfl rig should be here in a couple of weeks..wish the goddamn difficulty would drop or something.
b0n1: KRS1, how can it drop?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the model is something like this :
mircea_popescu: whoever has enough money to matter is likely to pick one chain for whatever reason
KRS1: it can go up or down
mircea_popescu: since fork means btc can be spent independently on either chain
mircea_popescu: he will sell his btc on one and perhaps buy on the other.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.495 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: as a result prices will rapidly diverge, panicking the mass of users, and the fork is economically resolved.
KRS1: mircea popescu: is it possible there is validation data in both chains that each doesnt know about the other?
mircea_popescu: KRS1 im not sure how you mean ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.4974 = 5.9896 BTC [+]
KRS1: from what i understand the transactions move data through the blockchain so if it splits, there could be transactional or validation data split up as well, maybe lost btc?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.4975 = 11.98 BTC [+]
KRS1: maybe i have it wrong
KRS1: idk
mircea_popescu: i think you do.
KRS1: ill go read up on it
mircea_popescu: chains are just that, sequences of blocks, which are made up of txs
mircea_popescu: if the chain splits there's basically two distinct histories
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.498 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: yeah 100 bids or 200 bids on the 50 AM blads :)
mircea_popescu: which means everyone has 2x as many btc as he used to have : half on each fork
KRS1: and a split on the price
KRS1: kind of like a stock split
mircea_popescu: not necessarioly an even split is what i mean.
KRS1: halving
mircea_popescu: people with weight will just pick, sell the loser buy the winner
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.4989 = 10.4923 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: price will then diverge towards one chain closing in to 100% of the total.
davout: or sell both and see what happens
mircea_popescu: or that yes, but that's neutral for our model
KRS1: so its still a nasty situation..sounds sugar coated
mircea_popescu: ie selling both or buying both doesn't matter.
mircea_popescu: i don't see what's nasty about it.
KRS1: oh it equals out..the real loss is the panic
mircea_popescu: well, you can see panic as an investment
mircea_popescu: the drop from 260 to 100 was certainly an investment. people lost money in order to prove bitcoin is not a pump asnd dump.
Chaaang-Noi: forking btc will be very bad for image, not so bad for btc (unless you personally lost transactions)
ThickAsThieves: thats why there should be a plan
ThickAsThieves: if there were an established plan
ThickAsThieves: that would instill notable confidence
ThickAsThieves: even today
ThickAsThieves: they could even write it into the software
ThickAsThieves: like if fork, then respect fork that = X
mircea_popescu: it's not a software issue.
mircea_popescu: it's a moneybags issue, and who's to say they don't have a plan ?
ThickAsThieves: i'm just thinking conceptually
mircea_popescu: even so. not all problems are approachable in code.
mircea_popescu: in fact, most aren't.
mircea_popescu: there is however a messaging system build into most clients, to notify merchants if there's a split etc.
mircea_popescu: on the recent fork it proved itself to work quite well.
ThickAsThieves: yeah, although mining pool operators being in communication quickly was the real save
mircea_popescu: or mining pools being willing to lose money.
mircea_popescu: i have serious doubts that's happening again. ideally it won't need to.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4659 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.466 = 11.65 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 116.57001, Best ask: 117.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.42999, Last trade: 116.57001, 24 hour volume: 42762.58612031, 24 hour low: 114.00000, 24 hour high: 122.00000, 24 hour vwap: 118.05232
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4989 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00304 = 0.0304 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 20 @ 0.00098 = 0.0196 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 19 @ 0.000695 = 0.0132 BTC [-]
KRS1: See, Chaaang-Noi was saying what I was trying to say "lost transactions"
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00349 BTC [+]
davout: KRS1: transactions don't get lost, in case of a chain fork they should get included in both chains
Chaaang-Noi: yeah but they can be double spent
davout: not in the usual meaning of "double spend" though
davout: they can be spent once, each time on one branch, but that's only sort of a double-spend
davout: but spending them to different recipients on each chain would require some careful manual crafting, i'm not even sure it would be practically feasible
Chaaang-Noi: you wouldhave to be ready for it, but i think it can be done
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 111 @ 0.003005 = 0.3336 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 80 @ 0.00098 = 0.0784 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 350 @ 0.00099 = 0.3465 BTC [+]
davout: Chaaang-Noi: thinking about it, it wouldn't be that hard, would simply mean you'd have to craft different txes spending the same coins, to different recipients, that you know are on different branches, and broadcast them in a controlled way, the last part sounds like it'd be the hardest
mircea_popescu: and now for my spamlist!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform burnside coingenuity davout DBordello Diablo-D3 dub FabianB_ imsaguy jborkl jcpham kakobrekla leotreasure mod6 nanotube pgp rdponticelli smickles_ ThickAsThieves thestrin1puller topace_ and everyone else ^
Chaaang-Noi: people are going to say you copied reptillia
mircea_popescu: only people who weren't there at the 1st one lol
Chaaang-Noi: that will be most people
mircea_popescu: o ya i guess Ukto idles alot so he might miss it. ^
Chaaang-Noi: he is back, jhe was traveling
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.01469 = 0.0294 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: reptillia was too soon, your thing is ages away :/
mircea_popescu: the fiorst edition was actually planned/invites sent in jan/feb.
mircea_popescu: i plan ahead.
kakobrekla: this is a year from now
kakobrekla: almost
Chaaang-Noi: sure 3 to 6 months is fine, but a year :) people will forget
mircea_popescu: forget lol
davout: Chaaang-Noi: looks like a functional brain will be required to attend
davout: :-)
Chaaang-Noi: nothing wrong with planning this far ahead, just kinda shocked
davout: it is kinda shocking
Chaaang-Noi: the VIP title however is lulz
Chaaang-Noi: i hope reptillia gets one
rdponticelli: Well, you can't say you weren't prepared... :p
Chaaang-Noi: what exactly does the vip get other than a bill and a title?
Chaaang-Noi: do they become a super node?
mircea_popescu: Chaaang-Noi doesn't like to read.
Chaaang-Noi: i saw little of value gained
mircea_popescu: give yourself time.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.01469 = 0.0735 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4988 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: seems like some extra food for the vips
mircea_popescu: everybody else gets rice and beans
kakobrekla: rice and soy sauce.
BitHub: why no asicminer on mpex?
davout: mircea_popescu: you mean vips get rice&beans, and the regulars get romanian food ?
davout: :p
Chaaang-Noi: AM would never work with mpex
BitHub: how come?
Chaaang-Noi: AM will not list on any exchange
Chaaang-Noi: its not just mpex
BitHub: yeah i know, but cant they just create an asset like the other PT's?
mircea_popescu: BitHub the friedcat guy won't sign contracts basically.
Chaaang-Noi: yeah, but MP would have to first buy AM stock, and he has been trying to short it since it was at .5
BitHub: ahh okey
mircea_popescu: why would i have to buy anything ?!
Chaaang-Noi: you coudl sell counterfiet shares i guess
BitHub: hehe
mircea_popescu: i have no idea wtf you're on about nao.
Chaaang-Noi: trust is an issue with the otehr exchanges, but the real reason is, AM does not need an exchange, AM has all the oney it will ever need and more
BitHub: i think peeps would bring shares to mpex
Chaaang-Noi: mp take some tim MP, you are a smart chap
Chaaang-Noi: tehy could
BitHub: but its teh contracts prob with Mr Friedcat
mircea_popescu: being listed is not about asicminer's monwey.
mircea_popescu: it's about the investors.
Chaaang-Noi: friedcat has never contacted MP about listing on mpex, and i doubt MP has asked friedcat to list, but maybe he has, but anyway why the fuck would friedcat list? more risk, nothing gained
Chaaang-Noi: the investors would be very upset if their shares were moved to mpex, however im sure if you wanted to do a pt no one would care
BitHub: i think other PT's just did it on their own yeah? or did they have to get permission too?
Chaaang-Noi: pt are not real shares
Chaaang-Noi: no one has to get permission to run a pt cuz they are not really selling AM shares
BitHub: okey, you just have to back the PT asset with real shares
Chaaang-Noi: well you should...
Chaaang-Noi: but no, you dont ahve to
BitHub: lulz
Chaaang-Noi: you could do so as a short
BitHub: man this stuff gets confusing
Chaaang-Noi: well...
Chaaang-Noi: its best not to trust pts or exchanges if you dont have to
BitHub: say 50 mpex users had asicminer shares direct with friedcat, and they wanted to create an assset on mpex with the shares
BitHub: i mean they could do that right?
Chaaang-Noi: liek someguy who sold 40,000 share of pirate pts who expected pirate to fail, could ahve just kept the money and paid the 5 or 6 weeks of interest
Chaaang-Noi: once pirate failed they would ahve made shit loads of btc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4262 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: you have to read the fine print of the pts to know if they are back by anything
BitHub: cool, sorry to drag it on, just curious :)
Chaaang-Noi: that is why this chan is here
Chaaang-Noi: talking about assets and the like
BitHub: cool, i love assets :)
BitHub: are we caught in an asicminer bubble?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.01512 = 0.3024 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: i think it is under valued
FabianB_: mircea_popescu: so Argentinia not before spring 2014 i guess :)
Chaaang-Noi: they are the only guys in town who can mass produce assics
Chaaang-Noi: and people are buying them at insane prices
BitHub: yep
BitHub: those recent ones sold out in 2 hours
mircea_popescu: FabianB_ kinda that summer.
BitHub: at around 50btc each
BitHub: plus month or two going to insane hashrates yeh?
Chaaang-Noi: 120 sold and oly 50 listed :)
Chaaang-Noi: well, if we control the market we dont care what the hash rate is
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01512 = 0.0756 BTC [+]
BitHub: what's impressed me the most is that unlike bfl and avalon ontop of selling devices they are opening mining as well
BitHub: openly*
BitHub: so i guess 3btc a share at some point this year is doable?
Chaaang-Noi: well, keep in mind they keep paying out weekly dividends, share price is not the goal, total profit for the ipo holders is the goal
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.4988 = 4.4964 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: we might hit 3 btc each i dont know, but dividends paid out plust share price will be pretty awesome
mircea_popescu: mjr___ here you signup lol
BitHub: ipo holders = shares direct with friedcat?
Chaaang-Noi: well at this point all stock holders
Chaaang-Noi: but the goal is not stock prices, its total btc in the pocket of the investors or stock holders
BitHub: that is a good goal :)
FabianB_: ;;bc,convert eur
gribble: 1 BTC = 116.00000 U.S. dollars = 89.3544908 Euros
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.4988 = 7.494 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.01489 = 0.0298 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.014899 = 0.0745 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 26 @ 0.0149 = 0.3874 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.01512 = 0.0302 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01512 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4988 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 50 @ 0.105 = 5.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00068508 = 8.5978 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00068282 = 5.9747 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5173 @ 0.00068 = 3.5176 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1177 @ 0.00067001 = 0.7886 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.4988 = 17.9856 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.499 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.499 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0149 = 0.0745 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 25 @ 0.0164 = 0.41 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0031 = 1.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.499 = 11.992 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49997 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49998 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.1078 = 0.539 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.1078 = 0.539 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00068204 = 10.9126 BTC [+]
[\]: mircea_popescu: is that my invitation to be a VIP? ;)
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 7 @ 0.104001 = 0.728 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.104 = 0.312 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 6 @ 0.0145 = 0.087 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4278 = 2.139 BTC [+]
KRS-1: lol Zzzzzzzz
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.014 = 0.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.01512 = 2.268 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01279 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00068204 = 12.2085 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01275 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 7 @ 0.012608 = 0.0883 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49998 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: this is pretty good.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: "the bezzle."
mircea_popescu: what about it ?
mircea_popescu: a a. yes.
mircea_popescu: exacrtly.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: just the fact that the fake money will eventually circulate. and the consequences, etc.
jurov: well, where's the fake money now and how can we see when it starts being spent?
jurov: now it's just moved back and forth between banks and reserve?
asciilifeform: jurov: when the U.S. dollar price of your lunch equals today's price of a used car.
jurov: obv but that's a consequence, not a cause
asciilifeform: jurov: yes, but that's the barometer to watch.
jurov: i was thinking that maybe there's some thing to watch for *before* hyperinflation kicks in
jurov: or are you saying it's past already?
asciilifeform: I predict that American hyperinflation will lead to counter-intuitively slow rises in the price of gold and BTC. From the fact that large gold/BTC holders stuck in America will be selling off their stashes to buy basic necessities.
mircea_popescu: yeah, jurov : you can watch the stock exchange.
mircea_popescu: the fact that the indexes are up is proof.
mircea_popescu: the us economy was never this weak. not in 1950, not in 1939, never.
mircea_popescu: well... yeah, maybe in 1820 or something.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: 1820: agrarian America, most people did not depend on a working economy as such for physical survival. no comparison.
jurov: so all the fake money is circulating in stocks and forex atm?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which is why i didn't consider it originally. but on a purely semantic basis it has to be pointed out.
mircea_popescu: jurov pretty much. mostly us stocks.
asciilifeform: when considering the purpose of the fake money printing, I can think of two distinct goals: (1) keep the spreadsheets from failing checksum (prop up the charade of an American "economy") and (2) keep the hookers, cocaine, jets, etc. flowing to the "nobility" despite their total economic/social irrelevance.
mircea_popescu: neither of these is the point.
asciilifeform: So I won't be surprised when at some point the charade ends and the tinted window fellows will be handed actual titles of nobility.
mircea_popescu: the fed simply makes money on the bonds they buy.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes, but ultimately why.
mircea_popescu: because the system is broken.
mircea_popescu: understand, cancerous cells aren't there conspiring to fuck up the body.
mircea_popescu: they are there working dilligently at a bad definition of what the job is.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes, they're just hungry and stupid.
mircea_popescu: and as a result fucking up the body.
mircea_popescu: exactly. the fed is hungry and stupid. it goes "so we make 2% on 10trn which is 200bn and if we print another 10trn we make 400 bn instead ? go for it!"
mircea_popescu: "what'as the worst that can happen, inflation ? that measn the economy has resuscitated, win"
jurov: <asciilifeform> I predict .... counter-intuitively slow rises in the price of gold <<< i think that is only possible if fed somehow proves the gold is there
asciilifeform: what I suspect is that at some point there will be a shift to a rather different, more Latin American social order, where the nobles are simply given bank cards with $ PosInfinity balance
mircea_popescu: jurov he obviously means the fake gold nobody wants anymore.
asciilifeform: and dispense with the elaborate spreadsheet charade.
mircea_popescu: this is already the case.
asciilifeform: but, at the moment, there is still an effort to keep up the pretense that there is an actual economy, where physical goods are produced, bought and sold at a profit, plebes are paid salaries from a fraction of the proceeds, etc.
asciilifeform: the next step is the slow outright Sovietization
asciilifeform: the permanently-unemployed say hello to the kolkhoz, and so on
mircea_popescu: "An analysis of Iksil's trades revealed that he was using Microsoft Excel excessively, making a number of formula errors that caused him to underestimate the risks of his positions."
mircea_popescu: this is pretty grand.
jurov: how can anything major happen slowly in current situation?
mircea_popescu: jurov practically speaking, because the world is mostly made out of Chaaang-Nois.
asciilifeform: jurov: inertia.
mircea_popescu: there's never a shortage of people who, if forced to eat shit by the spoon, would rather claim this savarine is wonderful
mircea_popescu: than admit they're eating shit.
mircea_popescu: in fact, there's rarely not a majority available.
mircea_popescu: this is how force works, fundamentally.
asciilifeform: with the little twist that ultimately if you eat shit instead of food long enough, you die.
mircea_popescu: niot really.
mircea_popescu: if it's poorly digested stuff coming out of some obese overlord you can live forever on the kernels.
asciilifeform: jurov: re: gold: eventually the physical metals market will decouple from the idiot paper-metal chump harvester. That's when the confiscation gasenwagen revvs up.
jurov: i don't contend that, only that the govts don't have so complete control than in 20th century and it's maybe easier to cause panic
asciilifeform: and not the wimpy FDR confiscation. the Soviet one. where possession of bullion carried the same penalty as murder.
asciilifeform: "economic terrorism."
jurov: okay, such thing will certainly not come slowly
asciilifeform: jurov: slowly enough. the first step will be punitive taxation of metals (see the imminent U.S. national sales tax as a base to work from.)
jurov: that will potentially cause masses of americans start using internet black market
jurov: will be interesting whether the surveillance infrastructure will be efficient enough to prevent
asciilifeform: jurov: that's when the "Bitcoin as NSA honeypot" hypothesis will be tested until red-hot.
asciilifeform: but the fun might end rather abruptly (at least in the U.S.) when the rolling blackouts begin.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.01512 = 0.0302 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: think: lead (and, naturally brass) "bullion" instead of gold and silver. "The lead standard."
jurov: rolling blackouts? then any forecasts are off, almost all usual econ activity will cease
asciilifeform: jurov: the paper economy, yes. but people will still want to live, and will try.
asciilifeform: jurov: ask MP about his gold bus.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> jurov: that's when the "Bitcoin as NSA honeypot" hypothesis will be tested until red-hot. <<< ehehe.
mircea_popescu: you know this is pretty cool, a few people already stated they're coming next year.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.01512 = 0.0454 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 30 @ 0.012691 = 0.3807 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01269 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.01262 = 0.1262 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 300 @ 0.012607 = 3.7821 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.012606 = 0.0504 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 40 @ 0.012604 = 0.5042 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0126 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 43 @ 0.012501 = 0.5375 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0149 = 0.0596 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.49998 = 5.9999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1078 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.49998 = 4.4999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0149 = 0.149 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01499 = 0.075 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [+]
ThickerThanThiev: WTB ASICMINER shares in bulk for a good price, pm with offer
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00068204 = 13.5044 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: wrong nick
ThickAsThieves: WTB ASICMINER shares in bulk for a good price, pm with offer
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: you do realize you can just /nick nick right?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2992 = 0.5984 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: this was faster
ThickAsThieves: typing is so hard
jurov: wanna get thicker?
ThickAsThieves: really i just didnt think about it, and mIRC has a nifty connect/disconnect button
ThickAsThieves: all my channels are saved
ThickAsThieves: thicker?
jurov: --> ThickerThanThiev has joined this channel
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2491 @ 0.00067833 = 1.6897 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: i have no answer
ThickAsThieves: more loyal than loyal?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 145 @ 0.01499 = 2.1736 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 91 @ 0.014995 = 1.3645 BTC [+]
jurov: i know. no homo.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 259 @ 0.014995 = 3.8837 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 91 @ 0.01512 = 1.3759 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.01514 = 2.271 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 290 @ 0.01514999 = 4.3935 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 110 @ 0.01515 = 1.6665 BTC [+]
jurov: very. how much you made on them? 20%
ThickAsThieves: those werent all me
ThickAsThieves: but calculating my profit
ThickAsThieves: is tough
ThickAsThieves: as I have been reinvesting all earnings
ThickAsThieves: to buy more shares
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.49998 = 3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 143 @ 0.015145 = 2.1657 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: i can say i have yet to sell a share for less than 10% profit
ThickAsThieves: i bought before the recent rally
ThickAsThieves: and sold the whole way
ThickAsThieves: I'd like to get to 5000 shares ASAP
ThickAsThieves: for a board seat
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 21 @ 0.015145 = 0.318 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.003444 = 0.0861 BTC [+]
benkay: any ideas on pgp libraries for java?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.30000009 BTC [+]
benkay: i just want to (encrypt key message)
benkay: waaah
jurov: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 235696 | Current Difficulty: 1.0076292883418716E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 235871 | Next Difficulty In: 175 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 23 hours, 51 minutes, and 49 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11107467.1478 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.23367
jurov: benkay, execute pgp externally?
benkay: as in shell out to?
benkay: i'd rather not.
jurov: yes. most libraries do tht anyway
benkay: but i may do that anyways.
mircea_popescu: benkay in case you missed it earlier
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.303172 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.303171 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.30317 BTC [-]
FabianB_: benkay: bouncy castle
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 5 @ 0.302872 = 1.5144 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 8 @ 0.3 = 2.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.49998 = 3 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.0006737 = 8.4549 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.18607 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.186 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.1855 = 0.371 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 6 @ 0.1832 = 1.0992 BTC [-]
jurov: he was here before beginning of time
jurov: and had exposure before buying any
mircea_popescu: well, i like that at least he's claiming to have been following the girl's guidelines.
ThickAsThieves: he's a reptile after all
ThickAsThieves: maybe a dinosaur?
FabianB_: benkay: found http://www.bouncycastle.org/?
benkay: oh yah
[\]: mircea_popescu: which hotel?
benkay: thanks for responding btw
mircea_popescu: he was expecting everyone to buiy it up to 100k per btc by xcmas a few weeks ago
[\]: I ain't going if I don't like the digs
FabianB_: np
mircea_popescu: now he's expecting buy action in 2015 ?
mircea_popescu: [\\\] depends how many people show up. was nh last time.
[\]: is the girl going?
[\]: I want her to shake my... hand.
mircea_popescu: mpoe-pr is in the pix lol
[\]: just because she want to the last doesn't mean she's going to the next
jurov: [\\\]: she may if you succeed to unchain it
[\]: jesus, basic logic mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: well doh, past performance,f uture performance
mircea_popescu: basic finance.
[\]: jurov: to which it does 'it' refer?
[\]: my hand or her shaker?
jurov: omg what a freudian slip.. i meant:
jurov: she may if you succeed to unchain her
mircea_popescu: freudiin slap.
[\]: freud was a fraud
[\]: everyone spells the name wrong
[\]: so I pay the fee and the only issue is my transportation?
jurov: yes. and few drinks
mircea_popescu: sometyhing like that.
[\]: You will be expected to behave courteously towards the other VIPs, which specifically includes not trying to sell them.
[\]: so if I don't VIP, I can trash the VIPs?
[\]: I think I'll just 'register'
jurov: oh that catched my attention too... did that actually happened last time?
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1078 BTC [+]
jurov: i didn't notice
[\]: catched->caught
mircea_popescu: jurov not afaik
asciilifeform: so, GPG challenge/response at the gates?
jurov: [\\\]: i guess VIPs will have bouncers at disposal for such cases as you
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform possibly.
[\]: jurov: oh be nice
jurov: hahaha yea we need protection against impostors, too.. but last time pgp challenge/response was done by email
[\]: all flights take me through germany
[\]: I don't know if I can handle that
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4811 BTC [-]
jurov: [\\\]: try to go to budapest, we can make road trip then
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.481 = 8.886 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4801 BTC [-]
[\]: like I want to road trip with you
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.475178 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.475 = 11.8 BTC [-]
[\]: have you seen what happens when you get into a car with strangers?
jurov: so we should know each other more bby then.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.475 = 7.375 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.47252 = 2.945 BTC [-]
[\]: perhaps you aren't my type?
jurov: we 'll manage these 4 hours somehow
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4725 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.47 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.465 BTC [-]
jurov: oh google maps actually says three hours only
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4625 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.460475 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.460474 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: push that price down!
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.460356 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 1.46026 = 20.4436 BTC [-]
[\]: so what price do we think AM is going to top out at?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.46025 = 10.2218 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.46 = 14.6 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: hard to say
ThickAsThieves: next dividend is gonna be big
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.46 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.46 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.46 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.459 = 5.836 BTC [-]
BitHub: about now
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.456 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.45513 BTC [-]
[\]: ThickAsThieves, why's that?
benkay: jurov, i'll ride in with you
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.455 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: because they sold 50 blades at 50btc last night
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 115 @ 0.015 = 1.725 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: and at current hashrate the div payout will be more than .015/share
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.455 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4502 BTC [-]
jurov: mircea_popescu: actually, it won't be bad idea to say on invitation "you can search connection to budapest, there will be a shuttle at XX:00 hour"
ThickAsThieves: so .02 is quite possible
[\]: diffchange is right around the corner
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.450125 BTC [-]
jurov: benkay ok, let me know in january :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.45 = 8.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.45 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: .02 is like 70% APR
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0149 = 0.0596 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: at share price of 1.5
[\]: .02 won't hold
ThickAsThieves: maybe not
[\]: every 12 days, they'd have to deploy more than what diff is going up
ThickAsThieves: but certainly will drive up price
[\]: and the more they deploy, the more they have to deploy later to keep up
[\]: there are diminishing returns
[\]: and at some point, the others will ship
ThickAsThieves: but they arent dumb either
[\]: which only makes things more difficult
[\]: I never said they were dumb
ThickAsThieves: i never said you did ;)
[\]: but there are limits to the tech
[\]: at some point, they'll hit moore's just like the rest of the industry
ThickAsThieves: maybe they have new tech planned
[\]: I look forward to that day
ThickAsThieves: new products to sell
mircea_popescu: jurov so make a comment on the article
ThickAsThieves: other types of deals
[\]: selling products hurts their generation side
ThickAsThieves: maybe the branch out
[\]: so that has limits :p
ThickAsThieves: they sell products right at about the price where they cant achive ROI
[\]: sorta like bfl
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.182004 BTC [-]
[\]: only bfl's gone way past ROI
[\]: if you bought in June/July, you'll never get your original coin qty back
ThickAsThieves: criminal
[\]: well, part of that was risk
[\]: you can't place it all on bfl
[\]: but the outright lies you can
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2992 = 0.5984 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2991 = 0.5982 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 38 @ 0.1078 = 4.0964 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 50 @ 0.1079 = 5.395 BTC [+]
[\]: is bfl still processing refunds for people?
BitHub: um
ThickAsThieves: i know they refunded me in Feb
BitHub: aren't they still marketing for people to take preorders with them?
BitHub: i swear once a weeks there' a new trick to preorder with bfl
[\]: the newest preorders say no refunds
[\]: all sales final
[\]: I was curious about the presales from last year
ThickAsThieves: BitHub, didnt you have some insider info about secret BFL machines? Spill it!
BitHub: about one yeah
BitHub: and after seeing what's going on i'm not suprised if its true
BitHub: but if i was to go on their website and order one now, when will i get it?
BitHub: christmas?
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.107999 = 1.08 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: in two weeks.
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1089 = 0.2178 BTC [+]
BitHub: serious?
BitHub: hehe dont joke
BitHub: btw, what do yo guys make of this asset, im very curious, very different
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 148 @ 0.1089 = 16.1172 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: I'd love to be wrong
ThickAsThieves: if it ain't a scam
ThickAsThieves: it's a delusion
BitHub: lulz
BitHub: i'm thinking to go there for a week and check it out
BitHub: really investigate it
ThickAsThieves: good idea,
ThickAsThieves: then they'll buy you off
ThickAsThieves: to lie to everyone
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: you'll make some good $
BitHub: we'll see
ThickAsThieves: assuming it's legit
ThickAsThieves: how are bitcoiners remotely qualified to invest in it
BitHub: i wont be investing myself if its not legit
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 214 @ 0.109 = 23.326 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.109 = 1.09 BTC [+]
BitHub: potentially this could be worth way more than asicminer in my opinion
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109 BTC [+]
benkay: holy shit
benkay: never invest in mining companies
benkay: ^^ personal opinion
benkay: bitcoin mining *may* be different.
BitHub: to be honest
BitHub: that was one of the things i was goign to talk to them about
BitHub: and hook them up with
ThickAsThieves: BitHub, someone linked this the other day, which you might find useful: http://www.cerm3.mining.ubc.ca/documents/areviewofrecentminingstockscams.pdf
BitHub: to do crypto mining at the same time
BitHub: i admit at first and the youtube vid it does seems very scammy
ThickAsThieves: BitHub, they'd look at you like you are crazy
ThickAsThieves: and they might be right
BitHub: just a lil crazy but there's alot of genius mixed in
BitHub: but i dont know, i will check this out
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.01499999 = 0.375 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2992 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2991 = 0.8973 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.01499999 = 0.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0149 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123 @ 0.00067001 = 0.0824 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067 = 6.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5577 @ 0.00066753 = 3.7228 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 308 @ 0.00325 = 1.001 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4899 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4919 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.492 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 49 @ 1.492 = 73.108 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.420001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 310 @ 0.00312 = 0.9672 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0031 = 1.24 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49997 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 1.499975 = 20.9997 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.0149 = 0.4172 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: WTB Bulk ASICMINER shares, also interested in a steady supplier if anyone is interested.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4925 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.495 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49998 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0149 = 0.0447 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.01494 = 0.2241 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6162 @ 0.00066753 = 4.1133 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14416 @ 0.00066691 = 9.6142 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 292 @ 0.00066648 = 0.1946 BTC [-]
jurov: Bloombers spies on Goldman Sachs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43699 @ 0.00067063 = 29.3059 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00068208 = 7.9121 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18819 @ 0.00068917 = 12.9695 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00069081 = 3.7995 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2824 @ 0.00069228 = 1.955 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5922 @ 0.00069321 = 4.1052 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6960 @ 0.00070342 = 4.8958 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4676 @ 0.00070702 = 3.306 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070683 = 3.0542 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17424 @ 0.00070702 = 12.3191 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071 = 7.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00071 = 9.94 BTC [+]
benkay: time to hack bloomberg
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4255 @ 0.00071 = 3.0211 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 124 @ 0.003 = 0.372 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 7 @ 0.003 = 0.021 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 700 @ 0.0029 = 2.03 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2991 = 0.8973 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2901 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.29 = 1.74 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0029001 = 2.9001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 51666 @ 0.0029 = 149.8314 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.01494 = 0.1494 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 92 @ 0.01475 = 1.357 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.01474 = 0.1179 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.014994 = 0.7497 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.01469 = 0.1175 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.01468 = 0.2936 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109998 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.471001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.471 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.47 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.465 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.109998 = 0.99 BTC [+]
jurov: just 10k s.dice to 0.002
MJR_: hi
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 7 @ 0.015879 = 0.1112 BTC [+]
MJR_: lol
MJR_: the forums completely ignored it
MJR_: 0 comments
kakobrekla: forums aint shit.
jurov: your name's actually Maximo?
MJR_: hold on
MJR_: yes it is
MJR_: Maximo Joshua Rossi
MJR_: <-----makes sense now :)
kakobrekla: i was accually dislecit for a long time
kakobrekla: and called you MR. J in my head
mircea_popescu: coolness
mircea_popescu: MJR_ the forums are retarded.
MJR_: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=56587.0;topicseen
MJR_: super old post from my bit coin noob days
MJR_: mircea_popescu: I agree
mircea_popescu: lmao "hai i want to mine with nvidia"
MJR_: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196613.0
MJR_: that was jan 2012
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.01498 = 0.1198 BTC [+]
MJR_: so look at how much the forums did there
greatIdeas: whois self
greatIdeas: whois greatideas
MJR_: anyway, meeting Stephen foley, financial times today
MJR_: I showed him trilema
MJR_: and the best BTC investments of all time
MJR_: we talked diff futures, IPO's, options...
MJR_: I told him that there was a story no ones really ran with
MJR_: we'll discuss more tonight over drinks
jurov: lol, have you told him about mpoe-pr?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.489999 BTC [+]
jurov: that *will* be a story
MJR_: no...lol in what way?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.01499 = 0.2698 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.489999 = 2.98 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: jurov just likes her
jurov: she can be featured in a box next to story as "most reviled PR ever or so"
mod6_: nickserv is ded?
mircea_popescu: mod6_ atm
mod6_: ahh thx
mod6_: :]
MJR_: I love her responses
MJR_: and admire her for being able to stand writing on that hell hole of a forum
mircea_popescu: now on that later part i fully agree
mircea_popescu: tingirl.
benkay: ahahahaha
benkay: tingirl?
mircea_popescu: well some metal
jurov: let's do nice holiday surprise for her (if she's in the US)
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.01499 = 0.1649 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 2.4899 = 12.4495 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it's a holiday atm ?
jurov: you said she's on vacation, no?
mircea_popescu: she only got a coupla days lol
jurov: heh
mircea_popescu: what do you think this is, socialism ?!
benkay: vacation = socialism
benkay: deep
mircea_popescu: totally.
benkay: man i can't handle "vacation"
benkay: being idle is the worst
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.489999 BTC [+]
jurov: now i see why some people can't call longer vacation a vacation, they instead say "mini-retirement"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.01474 = 0.1179 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01474 = 0.0737 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.014735 = 0.0589 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.014732 = 0.1473 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01473 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.0147226 = 0.1178 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.01472 = 0.0883 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.01471 = 0.0883 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 23 @ 0.0147 = 0.3381 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 729 @ 0.01461 = 10.6507 BTC [-]
benkay: ;;ticker
MJR_: I will go on a mini retirement week after next
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00287001 = 2.87 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00286001 = 2.86 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1398 @ 0.00286 = 3.9983 BTC [-]
MJR_: s.dice P/E ratio is around 4
MJR_: which is crazy
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 30 @ 0.015979 = 0.4794 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01598 BTC [+]
MJR_: if you had done the article when it was trading around 6 it would have been higher up
MJR_: but, a snapshot is always subjective
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.01599 = 0.7995 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 83 @ 0.016498 = 1.3693 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.016499 = 1.6499 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: bitstamp overtook btce
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 160 @ 0.01499 = 2.3984 BTC [+]
benkay: wow pgp doesn't take command line input of text to encrypt
benkay: *bitch bitch bitch bitch*
jurov: you are supposed to pipe it
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.01499 = 0.1199 BTC [+]
MJR_: yah, in mine I can say --sign
MJR_: and then it waits for input
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 18 @ 0.014989 = 0.2698 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 82 @ 0.01499 = 1.2292 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 71 @ 0.01461 = 1.0373 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.014605 = 0.1753 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 375 @ 0.01460001 = 5.475 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 500 @ 0.0146 = 7.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 42 @ 0.01455101 = 0.6111 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.470234 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.463461 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.462 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.461 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.01453 = 0.1453 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.01452 = 0.363 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.014511 = 0.3628 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 48 @ 0.01451 = 0.6965 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.0145 = 1.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.01445 = 0.578 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.456002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.456001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.456 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.455 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.451 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.45002 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 175 @ 0.01455101 = 2.5464 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.014551 = 2.1827 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 175 @ 0.01455 = 2.5463 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.447401 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.4474 = 10.1318 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.447301 = 7.2365 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 1.4471 = 20.2594 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.487499 BTC [+]
benkay: ping
benkay: freenode down?
benkay: $avg
mpexbot: benkay: 115.42
benkay: truff1es does your screen show your username properly to you?
truffles: does now
truffles: had defective key on my keyboard, works well now
truffles: just gotta give it a whack
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2712 = 0.8136 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00070537 = 5.9251 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 75 @ 0.01485 = 1.1138 BTC [+]
truffles: yea seems like freenode is having some trouble
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.487499 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4875 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01485 = 0.0743 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.01485 = 0.1485 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01485 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00070537 = 9.0287 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.215001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.460001 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: ;;nethash
ThickAsThieves: ;;bc,stats
ThickAsThieves: ;;gribble wake up
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4899 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4899 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1098 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 228 @ 0.07 = 15.96 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 107 @ 0.1098 = 11.7486 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 104 @ 0.109998 = 11.4398 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.215 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070502 = 3.0464 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34979 @ 0.000705 = 24.6602 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01435 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.01431 = 0.2862 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.01431 = 0.1431 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.01426 = 0.2139 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.01415 = 0.2123 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.0141 = 0.282 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.46 = 4.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.426 = 0.852 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109998 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.000705 = 13.6065 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 4 @ 0.2079 = 0.8316 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01485 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.109998 = 0.33 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.109998 = 0.22 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.01498 = 2.996 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4659 BTC [+]
benkay: $avg
mpexbot: benkay: 115.42
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01498999 = 1.499 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4659 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 21 @ 0.01498999 = 0.3148 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01498999 = 0.0749 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4899 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.489999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 1.4741 = 25.0597 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.109998 = 0.22 BTC [+]
KRS-1: are we gonna break up
KRS-1: ward
KRS-1: kinda looks like the bulls are tired
truffles: "House did not sell."
KRS-1: why would it
truffles: cuz its for btc?
KRS-1: how much btc..it did not look very nice to me
truffles: wants 150, top bid was 60
KRS-1: oh i get it..you folks are having a hard time btc->usd/euro/whatever huh
KRS-1: no moar redeems
KRS-1: thats a cheap house
truffles: it does look nice on the outside
KRS-1: now that I know how much it went for..yes
KRS-1: Where I live in south florida..you can live like a king and have access to some of the best beaches in the world.
KRS-1: Comes at a cost though.
KRS-1: It snows there.
truffles: oh not the hurricanes..
KRS-1: Haven't had a bad one in quite a while..but when they come..grab your ankles.
KRS-1: I imagine I'd commit suicide if I did not see the sun for extended periods..so I try not to live in places where it snows.
truffles: rly?
KRS-1: Weather is just too beautiful here.
truffles: i could live in a sandcastle if i had internet
truffles: or igloo
KRS-1: If you lived here for a while then moved where it snows and you don't see the sun you would miss it something terrible.
KRS-1: heh
truffles: no i wouldnt
KRS-1: maybe..but I would. Its paradise here 6 months out of the year..the other year its off and on rain and constant heat..but theres always the beaches and boating. I might move to California someday.
benkay: there are also all of the humans you have to share that space with
benkay: i might kill myself if forced to endure *that*
benkay: both california and florida
truffles: right humans
KRS-1: yeah, the people in south florida suck ass..i heard cali is a little better for that.
KRS-1: the women here are bitchy and snobbish
truffles: ppl are the same no matter social standing or geographic location
KRS-1: I dont know myself, but people have told me that.
KRS-1: idk dude..I have been told that about south florida by more than 1 or 2 people
benkay: there are some people who are very similar no matter where you are
benkay: but cultural differences are real
KRS-1: and that follows geographical locations right
benkay: some cultures are super wack
benkay: where have you lived, truffles?
truffles: awww
truffles: thats a cute question
benkay: i just want confirmation that you have no real experience of the world ;)
truffles: im a recluse..
benkay: i'm just going to apply a big old evaluation factor to everything that comes out of your mouth about humans and their behavior then
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00070537 = 5.1139 BTC [+]
truffles: well that killed chat
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.0142 = 0.284 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01476 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 18 @ 0.01475001 = 0.2655 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 81 @ 0.01475 = 1.1948 BTC [-]
mod6: no gribbs yet?
mod6: ahh altgribble... ok.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.01475 = 0.0738 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.2999 = 1.4995 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4876 @ 0.00312146 = 15.2202 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 400 @ 0.00295 = 1.18 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 85 @ 0.01475 = 1.2538 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2992 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.01475 = 0.059 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.42 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.01475 = 0.0885 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4925 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.498999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.01497 = 0.0299 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.01497 = 0.0449 BTC [+]
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