PeterL[asciilifeform]: hey asciilifeform, do you have strong feeling one way or the other whether to call it "Ukraine" or "The Ukraine"? Also, how do you feel about "Kiev" vs "Kyiv"?
asciilifeform: PeterL: УССР. simple.
asciilifeform: 'to victor, spoils, to the defeated, the tears'. what does it matter what the reich calls the bantustans it carved the vanquished people into.
asciilifeform: they can call it 'new arkansas' for all asciilifeform cares.
asciilifeform: the pretense that ukristan, or latvia, etc. are somehow sovereign 'countries' is sanctimonious bullshit
PeterL[asciilifeform]: Are they part of the same reich as Russia, or two separate things now?
asciilifeform: see e.g. lulz
asciilifeform: PeterL: all of the su shards, incl. to a large extent ru proper, are satrapies of the anglo reich presently. with scattered pockets of uppitiness, but otherwise solidly.
PeterL[asciilifeform]: aha. And war in Ukraine procedes at the leisure of the reich, is good to churn excess manpower/materiel?
PeterL[asciilifeform]: powers-that-be are not stopping the war, therefore they are giving their approval to continue indefinately?
asciilifeform: churn many things, incl. the remnants of su-era industry (space vehicles etc.) that ended up in the burn zone