unpx[asciilifeform]: Since they are also thinkering with NAT punching, this could be useful to extend Pest https://tailscale.com/blog/nat-traversal-improvements-pt-1 asciilifeform
asciilifeform: unpx: not seeing anyffin new in linked piece re subj
asciilifeform: ( afaik all possible methods of prying open nat were discussed in the logs in detail )
asciilifeform: ( incl. the imho lulziest, where you have 1 or moar peers with public ipv4 but don't know the ip, and so run through all of ipv4 space to wake him up )
awt_akris[asciilifeform]: unpx: I just started testing out tailscale. It's nice for being able to use mosh to access my machines at home while at the cafe.
awt_akris[asciilifeform]: I suppose it could be used to run a pest network as well - of course everyone would have to be on the vpn.
awt_akris[asciilifeform]: Conspicuously neither ngrok nor tailscale have implemented UDP tunnels.
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2025-10-20#1035338 << this'd be in the running for 'backwards award' neh
asciilifeform: ... or, illustrated.
awt_akris[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: yep