crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: do you have any info on Symbolics NS?
asciilifeform: crtdaydreams: not beyond what's in the logs
dulapbot: (trilema) 2018-10-18 amberglint: NS does work, but you need a simple workaround to get around the Xlib error: switch your X server to 8bpp
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2018-01-17#1772209 << yeah so from my research, Weste is not only just one of the guys that worked on it. The dude was the project leader for the entire NS prog. here's a reference doc for the university of adelaide
dulapbot: (trilema) 2018-01-17 amberglint: btw, one of Ivory and NS designers, Neil Weste, wrote his own schoolbook: http://pages.hmc.edu/harris/cmosvlsi/4e/index.html
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: the guy's been around the block more than once, he also co-founded the company that implemented the first commertial wifi chip
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: he's currently on advisory boards for several companies
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: no public website or email address anywhere
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: I presume he's going to be rather tight-lipped
asciilifeform: crtdaydreams: what were you hoping to get outta him ? supposing he even has sumthing like intact brain at all at this pt
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: he might have an old paperback manual for NS (if such a thing ever existed)
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-10-31 17:45:20 asciilifeform[6]: soo, d00d wrote emulator, then... went to zombie mallery for 'ask permission' to show it to anyone. lol
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-10-31 17:53:58 asciilifeform[6]: ( starting with mallery, who 'i bought for $mil, but Worth Billions!' -- or alternatively, per asciilifeform's hypothesis, simply happy to sit on the whole thing for nsa & co. who not eager to see even toy example of cpu-and-os-sans-overflows rise from bottom of ocean )
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: I'm fully aware of dead-end for any kind of sauce
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: if he's got any hardcopy symbolics docs, chine nual etc. rarities
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: but surely seeing if guy wrote the thing he'd have a manual for it
asciilifeform: crtdaydreams: the paper docs for the base softs aint rare ( asciilifeform has'em ) and in fact exist on the ubiquitous genera cd
asciilifeform: can't recall if ns doc is there ( suppose it is, what good it will do ? )
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: 9http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2018-10-18#1863748 << so amberglint was wrong?
dulapbot: (trilema) 2018-10-18 amberglint: I remember NS referencing the documentation, but it seems to be missing in the distribution everyone has
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-12-28#1032239 << it would provide a damn good scaffold for design of "lisp hdl" and hint at a lot of potential problems and resolutions
dulapbot: Logged on 2023-12-28 16:00:26 asciilifeform: can't recall if ns doc is there ( suppose it is, what good it will do ? )
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: at the very least give insight to the use of NS "as is"
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-12-28#1032230 << I don't think he's head that way, still seems like he's actively involved in vlsi design in one way or another, I don't think his meat cpu has carked it
dulapbot: Logged on 2023-12-28 15:57:01 asciilifeform: crtdaydreams: what were you hoping to get outta him ? supposing he even has sumthing like intact brain at all at this pt