shinohai[busybot]: Koch strikes again https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/953797/7222cd75661fb888/
asciilifeform: approx as interesting as what's in the latest prb, imho
asciilifeform: (i.e. strictly entomological)
signpost[asciilifeform]: > crypto-refresh
signpost[asciilifeform]: being pushed by fucking proton, too.
signpost[asciilifeform]: this approach is dated; what's with all the white cis dudes? they should find a troon of colour to champion this upgrade.
asciilifeform: mop-up job, to try an' 'embrace & extinguish' the old rfc4880 support still floating around in various heathen proggies
asciilifeform: approx. same thing as the 'upgraded wallet' prb lul linked earlier
asciilifeform: (point being to kill third-party tools which relied on old format, and push the 'replacements' baked by usual suspects)
asciilifeform not finds this especially interesting, never saw any point in 'gui for gpg' nonsense
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: "If you see shit on one side of the cake: a) You clean that part up and eat the rest of the cake. b) You throw away the whole fucking cake."
signpost[asciilifeform]: most people these days eat the shit
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: I really find it hard to believe anyone would trust the PGP keys served by proton, it boggles the mind.
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform] confesses to using proton, but not under any delusional pretenses of "seekurity"
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: nfi how to set up and secure an email server
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: from my understanding the spam problem is a bitch
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: I find it hard to leave myself a central point of failure that I'm totally responsible for securing
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: it seem counterintuitive to have the email that runs email verification for the vps running on itself
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: if something goes wrong it seems like it'd be a real bitch to try and fix
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: I'm all ears if someone here has a better solution than a 3rd party email provider
signpost[asciilifeform]: if tmsr taught us anything, it's how much of a waste of time it is to try to polish imperial tech.
signpost[asciilifeform]: "I will Linux, but In My Own Way"
signpost[asciilifeform]: if you have need for secure communication, an airgapped 1.4 gpg will do well enough.
signpost[asciilifeform]: there isn't such thing as a secure internet-connected item in the world.
signpost[asciilifeform]: even these airgapped items are only as good as whatever you/I don't know about gpg. It would in no way surprise me - and asciilifeform worked for quite some time on phuctor to demonstrate - that keys generated with any widely-available entropy sources are breakable.
signpost[asciilifeform]: fuckgoats is sadly not widely available anymore, but I do trust that.
signpost[asciilifeform]: anyway, I literally use a hosted email from one of the major "tech" companies because I consider email unwanted enemy territory.
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: I haven't examined fg in depth, but I do get the general principle of it's RNG generation. Would anyone be able to comment on the general cost of just the components minus PCB?
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: alf might know
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: yeah, I initially picked proton over gmail/hotmail/etc because it doesn't ask for a phone number
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: I got sick of gmail because of a spam problem, wanted a clean slate
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: There is a way to make new gmail accounts without a phone number, but it entails some shitfuckery and a device running an old android OS
signpost[asciilifeform]: the spam problem is inherent to the design of email; there's no way to fix it
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: I'm aware, but it can be minimized to near nothing by being very selective of what you use it for
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: I just use it to maintain accounts for the basics, stuff that's unavoidable if you want to participate in modern society
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: on an aside note, something I've been meaning to ask is how do you get a hold of btc? are you guys using goxes for a fiat conversion then immediately transferring to a cold wallet?
signpost[asciilifeform]: if I had any btc, I would probably not leave it on an exchange.
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: clearly, but what I'm alluding to is if there really is any bitcoin economy left
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: if anyone here is actively exchanging goods/labor directly for btc
signpost[asciilifeform]: thing's doing just fine as a hodl. one can buy goods from whoever's left standing after the collapse of the west.
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: heh, teaching mandarin for btc in the next world
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-12-05#1031966 << print on demand pretty well eliminates the handling
dulapbot: Logged on 2023-12-05 12:49:49 asciilifeform: awt_akris: lulzily, asciilifeform when moving found yet anyther crate of snsa shirts. of which there is a seemingly infinite stash
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform] wonders if awt is selling gildan crap or if going for that premium stuff
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: not sure if there's any real sweet spot between quality and profit margins
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-12-07#1031500 << ~30 $ iirc
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-12-07 20:34:09 crtdaydreams[jonsykkel|signpost]: I haven't examined fg in depth, but I do get the general principle of it's RNG generation. Would anyone be able to comment on the general cost of just the components minus PCB?
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-12-07#1031498 << asciilifeform was recently considering baking an acoustic (morse. hold up to pnoje, like old autodialers) pocket otptron for point to point text.
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-12-07 20:32:25 signpost: fuckgoats is sadly not widely available anymore, but I do trust that.
asciilifeform: (... then remembered that ~nobody wants to pay for sane irons lol )
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-01-30 14:36:13 asciilifeform[5]: the unfortunate thing is that the only 'cheap' iron is likely to be whatever you currently have, + what's in scrapyard
asciilifeform: would be arguably neat imho. 0 electronic connections to anyffin (other than partner unit when generating pad) , watertight.
asciilifeform: buttons a la tv remote, 16x4 lcd, piezo. punch in plaintext, hit send, dit-dah-dah-etc. hit receive & hold up to handset. hold down 'u'+'s'+'g' buttons to zap the sram.
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-12-07#1031502 << asciilifeform moar or less sees email as ~same as pastebin
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-12-07 20:35:50 crtdaydreams[jonsykkel|signpost]: yeah, I initially picked proton over gmail/hotmail/etc because it doesn't ask for a phone number
asciilifeform: i.e. not matters half a shit what to use so long as it doesn't habitually drop msgs on the floor
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-12-07#1031510 << other than asciilifeform's micro isp, afaik ~nuffin
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-12-07 20:48:32 crtdaydreams[jonsykkel|signpost]: clearly, but what I'm alluding to is if there really is any bitcoin economy left
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-12-07#1031508 << ideally you'd know a human willing to trade it for sumthing you have. this is no longer trivial and hasn't been for some yrs tho
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-12-07 20:45:43 crtdaydreams[jonsykkel|signpost]: on an aside note, something I've been meaning to ask is how do you get a hold of btc? are you guys using goxes for a fiat conversion then immediately transferring to a cold wallet?
asciilifeform: naturally one can buy from gox, and extract it to yer 1xxx addr (afaik still possible in most goxen). has the obv caveats.