jonsykkel: could send ignore packets to random ipv4 addrs. if pestron from another net happens to receive correctly sized martian packet, it will store addr in fake wot and start "communicating" at regular intervals. if have enough of these fake peers would be difficult for snoop to even tell who actual peers are
punkman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-29#1062250 << just saw this too, $2k for the 1u chassis, it's got 11 slots, and $50-$100 per rockchip board
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-10-29 12:08:30 BingoBoingo: Meanwhile looking at a Rockchip board laying around lead to seeing http://en.t-firefly.com/news/info/index/id/522.html
punkman: they have various single-slot motherboards too
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-03#1068624 << you gotta be joking ( store arbitrary liquishit? cuz disk and cpu time are infinite? or wat )
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-03 06:37:20 jonsykkel: could send ignore packets to random ipv4 addrs. if pestron from another net happens to receive correctly sized martian packet, it will store addr in fake wot and start "communicating" at regular intervals. if have enough of these fake peers would be difficult for snoop to even tell who actual peers are
jonsykkel: u store ip addresses, nothing else
jonsykkel: and ports
asciilifeform: jonsykkel: you could do this, but imho doesn't belong in the spec
jonsykkel: sure, agree
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-03#1068625 << potentially interesting, but not clear from the vendor page whether actually includes the cpus, or whether they share memory (i.e. what's the cost of filling up the thing? and do you get a shared-memory comp or a $2k equivalent of my iron rails holding same # of rk's ? )
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-03 07:46:35 punkman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-29#1062250 << just saw this too, $2k for the 1u chassis, it's got 11 slots, and $50-$100 per rockchip board
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
asciilifeform: hmm bot awol ?
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 14 nodes...
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=712406
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=712406 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=712406
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=712406
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=712406
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.094s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=712406 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=712406 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.277s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=712406
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.245s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=712406
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.262s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=712406
watchglass: 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.326s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711976
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.652s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=712406
watchglass: 94.176.238.102:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!
watchglass: 75.106.222.93:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $56210.92
asciilifeform: ty shinohai
shinohai: I dunno why but bot parts chan occasionally, it's still connected but not in here.
shinohai: $uptime
busybot: The bot has been up for: 6 minutes and 59 seconds
asciilifeform: !q uptime
dulapbot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 170d 11h 43m
asciilifeform: ^ then again it lives on same box, so 'cheats'
punkman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-03#1068634 << some docs here https://wiki.t-firefly.com/en/Cluster-Server-R1/Firefly_Cluster_server_product_documentation.html
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-03 10:09:05 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-03#1068625 << potentially interesting, but not clear from the vendor page whether actually includes the cpus, or whether they share memory (i.e. what's the cost of filling up the thing? and do you get a shared-memory comp or a $2k equivalent of my iron rails holding same # of rk's ? )
punkman: they don't share memory. I think you just get gigabit network interconnect
asciilifeform: lol!!! 2k$ just for iron rails and a gb switch ?!!
punkman: "The motherboard runs Ubuntu 18.04 system and interacts with other core boards (hereinafter referred to as daughter boards) in the cluster server through network and USB interfaces to monitor and manage each core board of the cluster server."
punkman: seems like you also get some kind of USB interface
asciilifeform: still outragous lulzprice imho
asciilifeform: *outrageous
asciilifeform: that rack alone costs like ~50 standard rk.
punkman: it would be harder to fit 11 separate SBC + PSU + usb/ethernet switch in 1U chassis
punkman: the R2 versions fits 72 daughter boards and it's at $15,800
punkman: (no daughter boards included in either as I understand it, perhaps I could be wrong)
asciilifeform: lol!!
asciilifeform: that'd buy half a rack of 'dulap'.
asciilifeform: golden toilet. (or rather, ordinary toilet, priced like golden..)
punkman: https://en.t-firefly.com/product/embed/ecr3566pc this one says "supports all-data-link ECC", I wonder wtf that means
jonsykkel: goted this thimbronion http://zzz.st/up/6B1WALdh/ and irc connection dropped
asciilifeform: jonsykkel: i got same thing yest.
thimbronion: jonsykkel: fixed this in my local version by going single-threaded. Testing an additional change that prevents the server from listening for additional irc client connections when there is already a client connected - was causing all sorts of weird when random tcp connections hit the port.
punkman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-03#1068683 << probably best to not expose irc hole to world
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-03 13:20:52 thimbronion: jonsykkel: fixed this in my local version by going single-threaded. Testing an additional change that prevents the server from listening for additional irc client connections when there is already a client connected - was causing all sorts of weird when random tcp connections hit the port.
asciilifeform: punkman: see also
cgra: thimbronion: handle_udp_data()'s debug print threw error if message text contained non-ascii char (bonus: tab indent at end of Server.start(), uneven indent at end of Client.__command_handler())
thimbronion: ty cgra, noted
adlai: asciilifeform: have patience for another long metaphor about living systems in the context of trb?
adlai: the oneline summary, in the ACHTUNG GEDENKNER sign, is that the static components of a living system can have a well-defined space of liquishit which they do tolerate; and ...
adlai: ... the minimal "do not confuse this map for the metaphor's actual territory", is a tandem setup with a cloud of pseudonodes that do almost no verification beyond essentials of parsing protocol frames, orbiting around the trb endothelium
adlai chose 'endothelium' instead of 'endoskeleton', to express the fact that the critical part of the thing in question is not only the extruded blockchain, but also the glands that shape and process it -- trb, wallet programs, possibly even explorers
adlai: meanwhile, my linux quest has reasonably congealed; I have a bootable system, and even learned a bit about the various storage buzzwords (lvm, raid, tradeoffs of SSD instead of HDD)
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-03#1068691 << last thing we need is moar kludges. what actually need is the real deal.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-03 15:58:23 adlai: ... the minimal "do not confuse this map for the metaphor's actual territory", is a tandem setup with a cloud of pseudonodes that do almost no verification beyond essentials of parsing protocol frames, orbiting around the trb endothelium
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-15 21:29:41 asciilifeform: a properly-adaized replacement-trb (i.e. with ZERO traces of derpcoad and demonstrably bug-free) would be what one could call 'permanent software'