thimbronion: So I tried boat lyfe. Not for me. Jesus what a load of junk to be maintaining. At least now I know the points of sail and how to handle a man overboard.
shinohai: thimbronion: Did they cover how not to lose all yer Bitcoin in boating accident? xD
thimbronion: shinohai: No. Sadly I lost all my bitcoin when my 22 footer monohull capsized during a tacking exercize. I should have let out the mainsheet.
shinohai: topkek
shinohai: Hopefully you saved the GPS coords and can go on diving expedition.
thimbronion: LOL of course
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: thimbronion: were you actually living on the tub? (...or rented for a weekend to test?)
thimbronion: asciilifeform: I spent one night on a 40' catamaran as part of a week long class, then abandoned ship.
thimbronion: Spent 2 days prior learning how to sail a 22' monohull.
shinohai: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-23#1033526 <<< I did try this whaack and mentioned it in my blog post on subj. Worked far better than anything I'd previously tried.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-03-23 22:52:06 whaack: asciilifeform: I did post a fix to the reconnection logic for ircbot here http://ztkfg.com/2020/02/ircbot-no-suicide-on-reconnect/
shinohai: Seeing as how deedbot stays up, I can't help but think shitty isp as much as freenode. Who knows.
verisimilitude: Disregard that.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: interesting. afaik good exercise but not practical as full-time house or transport on anything but 'orbital' budget
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-23#1033530 << ftr i agree w/ trinque. i maintain my bot but do not intend to commit new fleanodeisms.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-03-23 23:09:41 trinque: I give zero shits to add anything more to something sitting atop IRC.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-23#1033531 << here also must agree. dpb why in such hurry to get gnat, btw ? what are you building?
snsabot: Logged on 2021-03-23 23:10:00 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-23#1033524 << what's with the one-line communication? this is pretty low-effort.
asciilifeform doesn't begrudge to help, but has very limited time currently. and encourages folx to test trinque's , it is a substantial cleanup vs. the old ave1 package
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
btcinfobot: Current BTC price in USD: $55857.5
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 15 nodes...
watchglass: 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 108.31.170.100:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-100.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.098s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=676123 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.097s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=676123
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.142s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=676123
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.094s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=676105 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.173s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=676123
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.176s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=676123
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.201s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=676123
watchglass: 176.9.59.199:8333 : (static.199.59.9.176.clients.your-server.de) Alive: (0.359s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=412030 (Operator: jurov)
watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.334s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=676123
watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.410s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=676123
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.238s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=676078
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
asciilifeform: !q seen-anywhere jurov
snsabot: jurov last seen in #asciilifeform on 2021-01-19 18:07:40: it means you don't write in expressions there, but evaluate them from the other files
dpb: is "gnat" not the standard used now? I am simply trying to build anything proprosed by you.
dpb: is it the case that you are all using some binary file that you don't remember how you made it?
asciilifeform: dpb: the 1 i use for ffa since ch.11 inclusive was baked using ave1's recipe and builds self (on x64.)
asciilifeform: dpb: it is mirrored on my www and shinohai's (linked earlier).
asciilifeform: dpb: if you have headache in setting up this variant , plox to post ~complete~ barf, i expect will be able to help. (tho cannot promise to answer in realtime)
shinohai: Just ftr I didn't suggest own to disparage trinque's item, just as alternative since dpb is using Gentoo and pentacle requires some debianisms that aren't readily available on all machines.
asciilifeform: dpb: imho is a stretch to talk about 'the standard used now' (where?) -- i can speak only for self, ffa ch11--present is tested on the variant of gnat linked above. this was why i asked 'what are you building' -- if it's something other than ffa, may require an older/newer/nonstatic/etc gnat
asciilifeform: dpb: in particular, iirc diana & co. required an old-style dynamic-linking gnat.
asciilifeform: (because linked w/ cpp dynamic libs)
asciilifeform: as for ffa -- last i knew, in fact does build w/ reasonably-recent ('16 and later) heathen gnats. (who finds otherwise -- plox to write in.)
asciilifeform: dpb: in general -- the moar detail you post re: what exactly yer doing, the moar likely someone can help.
asciilifeform: afaik there are no telepaths here.
shinohai: *sigh* is there any real reason to have #trb chan anymore? Seems like only convo is from spamtrollz.
asciilifeform: shinohai: iirc you have +o there, kick, ban
asciilifeform: shinohai: that it gets spammed, aint even wholly uninteresting -- evidently the www gets traffic..
shinohai: I still have hopes jurov will return from sea voyage and something can be made of old foundation. I'm happy to put in sweat to do foundation reports ala mod6.
shinohai: (Not that there is much to report at present, but one still *hopes*)
asciilifeform: shinohai: was gonna ask jurov to gimme the www to maintain, if he lacks the juice. (the front page, that is. already hosting the coad viewer www in my rack)
asciilifeform: shinohai: apparently i dun have +o in #trb. if you do, plox to set +r .
dpb: asciilifeform, what do you recommend I do to compile a bitcoind? Preferably with the dulap setup
asciilifeform: dpb: the traditional instructions for trb. lemme know if encounter an obstacle.
asciilifeform: dpb: is this your 1st time building trb ? ( asciilifeform was under the impression that dpb had various builds of trb in the past )
dpb: it isn't my first time
dpb: i run into obstacle here: You will also need a functioning Ada Compiler:
asciilifeform: dpb: for the vtron, aha. try shinohai's recipe, afaik is the quickest way. i will be back later tonight and answer q's if you get stuck.
asciilifeform: dpb: i've considered posting static binaries for keccak-vtron, etc. but historically loathed to do this.
shinohai: I thought of same w/ esthlos-v but the "lisp static executables" recipe I read about in #lisp is hopelessly complicated. If you have sbcl, thing builds in < minute anyway.
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