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feedbot: http://verisimilitudes.net/2021-03-03 << A Syndication of Verisimilitudes -- Split unto Mechanical Realizations
asciilifeform: dpb: seems like you finally have the tarball; i switched off the lulazon mirror (will leave the other 2 for nao)
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
btcinfobot: Current BTC price in USD: $49183.26
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 15 nodes...
watchglass: 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 108.31.170.100:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-100.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.039s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=673138 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=673002
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=673002
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.088s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=673138
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.102s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=673138
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=673126 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.221s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=673138
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.297s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=673138
watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.273s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=673002
watchglass: 176.9.59.199:8333 : (static.199.59.9.176.clients.your-server.de) Alive: (0.344s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=412018 (Operator: jurov)
watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.263s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=673138
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.453s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=673138
watchglass: 84.16.46.130:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!
dpb: asciilifeform, yep. got it, thank you very much. And going forward, the answer to "how do i download this in oklahoma" is rent a amazon thing to route it
asciilifeform: dpb: outta curiosity, what was the net wall clock time on yer end for the download ?
dpb: what does that mean
asciilifeform: dpb: seconds, from start to finish
dpb: i didn't keep such track, but it finished in the early am this morning
asciilifeform: so let's take this point in time as start
snsabot: Logged on 2021-02-26 18:20:55 dpb: that works. ty
dpb: yes
asciilifeform: and let's say 0hrs today as fin
asciilifeform: 452400s. 278792347611byte / 452400s ~= 600kByte/s. avg.
asciilifeform: it aint clear to asciilifeform that the mirrors (of which asciilifeform baked 3; and iirc trinque also 1) made much diff
asciilifeform: dpb you might want to try musk's new low orbit dish thing, supposedly goes 100-200mB/s with tight ping
asciilifeform not tried
asciilifeform: dpb: lemme know whether the tar worx for you. keep in mind that by nao that snapshot is ~month outta date
asciilifeform: dpb: also think about whether you can actually keep a noad synced reliably on a ~600kB/s pipe. (in principle oughta. but in practice a good % of a noad's bw is wasted on being fed liquishit)
asciilifeform: hrm feedbot apparently no longer feeds my www anywhere but in #s...
shinohai: ^ I noticed above behaviour on my toilet lappy running 5.12 kernel asciilifeform ... but hadn't got that far to notice a problem via ffa yet.
verisimilitude: A ``toilet lappy'' is a poor machine or one set near the toilet?
verisimilitude: I've had similar font issues with mine articles, despite their simplicity. Under Android phones, monospace fonts don't work, so my machine code documentings look poor.
verisimilitude: My solution was apathy.
shinohai: verisimilitude: "toilet lappy" the one I use for streaming torrents, play retroarch games, etc.
shinohai: "At least it's not Debian!" (tm)
verisimilitude: Trying to preserve my hands has made me realize how awful so many Emacs chords are.
verisimilitude: Each of M-<, M->, and C-M-! require three fingers strewn around.
verisimilitude: The C-M-% for query-replace-regexp is particularly bad.
trinque: verisimilitude: yeah, my left hand's pinky is more or less trashed by mapping esc to caps-lock and using vim bindings.
trinque: I'm probably soon to get one of those split keyboards with the thumb modifiers and move esc in there.
trinque: might dvorak up at that time too.
trinque: asciilifeform: would be amusing if the onlinecodes thing gave faster throughput just by virtue of not being in anyone's packet analysis rules yet, aside the greater efficiency of the protocol.
trinque: one of the primary contemplated applications was efficent multisource download
verisimilitude: I may eventually find myself entering these chords with my yet-to-arrive chording keyboard, but I'll more likely try to avoid them entirely.
trinque: ftr I'll seed that db snap for quite a while; isn't harming anything
trinque: verisimilitude: ah, thinking of the chord device specifically for emacs bindings?
trinque: that's a compelling idea tbh
verisimilitude: No, my BAT.
trinque recalls the "mother of all demos" having a chording device.
verisimilitude: As for that codes system, I've not yet read the other papers required to understand it properly.
trinque: not a big deal; I've been digesting it also
trinque: if the notions arrive in multiple skulls at some point all the better
verisimilitude: The paper mentions ``150 lines of Java'', so this doesn't seem like much work.
trinque: nah, seems very straightforward actually.
trinque: which makes it all the more sad that we're using connection-based protocols still.
verisimilitude: I could recognize, by what I understood, the OR nodes of this tree distribution are what seem to allow for message recovery.
trinque: verisimilitude: recall the way multiple parties implemented a V?
trinque: my intent was to get multiple folks to do same here.
trinque: I have not stopped anything meanwhile.
verisimilitude: Say, does anyone know offhand how many words Latin has, sans declensions and conjugations?
trinque: it'd probably be quite the historical review to find out, but if you wanted a ballpark, could see what whitaker's words contains for stems
verisimilitude: I wonder if the ceiling of the base two logarithm of this count is favorable to some ideas.
verisimilitude: I wonder if twelve bits be enough.
verisimilitude: Oh, I'm reminded of some common crocodile tears: ``Connectionless protocols that allow responses large compared to requests are bad, because large corporations get DDoSed by them!!!''
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-04#1032786 << to be pedantic, it's a sabotaged xorg fonts kit, nuffin to do w/ kernel
snsabot: Logged on 2021-03-04 15:46:34 shinohai: ^ I noticed above behaviour on my toilet lappy running 5.12 kernel asciilifeform ... but hadn't got that far to notice a problem via ffa yet.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-04#1032787 << it's traditional jargon for a machine where one runs shitware (whether closed- or open- src), rendering it unhygienic (for crypto or even for being worth maintaining other than via win95 'nuke hdd erry other year' method)
snsabot: Logged on 2021-03-04 15:53:40 verisimilitude: A ``toilet lappy'' is a poor machine or one set near the toilet?
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-04#1032788 << last i saw, ffa rendered 100% correctly under turdroid. feel free to crib the html liquishits
snsabot: Logged on 2021-03-04 15:55:01 verisimilitude: I've had similar font issues with mine articles, despite their simplicity. Under Android phones, monospace fonts don't work, so my machine code documentings look poor.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-04#1032792 << i've in fact never once pressed a 3-key chord in emacs -- or anywhere else, not counting ctrl-alt-del -- and don't ever intend to
snsabot: Logged on 2021-03-04 16:07:18 verisimilitude: Trying to preserve my hands has made me realize how awful so many Emacs chords are.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-03-04 16:11:56 trinque: verisimilitude: yeah, my left hand's pinky is more or less trashed by mapping esc to caps-lock and using vim bindings.
snsabot: (trilema) 2018-01-05 asciilifeform: but then again why the everlivingfuck would i run with defaults on a ~configurable~ tool that i use 14+ hr/day )
asciilifeform: fix yer .emacs, folx, before it 'fixes' you.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-04#1032799 << proper crypto oughta (almost by definition, imho) make these irrelevant
snsabot: Logged on 2021-03-04 16:13:20 trinque: asciilifeform: would be amusing if the onlinecodes thing gave faster throughput just by virtue of not being in anyone's packet analysis rules yet, aside the greater efficiency of the protocol.
asciilifeform: really the only plaintext field in a packet oughta be the destination.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-04#1032806 << see also. (interestingly, the youtube clip of motad i had in there, is long-dead... anyone have replacement?)
snsabot: Logged on 2021-03-04 16:15:07 trinque: recalls the "mother of all demos" having a chording device.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-04#1032809 << i'd actually rec that folx start w/ luby's method, for study -- it is the simplest (and gets across the idea)
snsabot: Logged on 2021-03-04 16:15:39 trinque: if the notions arrive in multiple skulls at some point all the better
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-04#1032822 << somehow the idjit isps who ~to this day~ happily route packets w/ forged (i.e. originated outside of any of their owned ipblocks) source -- Officially blameless
snsabot: Logged on 2021-03-04 17:55:42 verisimilitude: Oh, I'm reminded of some common crocodile tears: ``Connectionless protocols that allow responses large compared to requests are bad, because large corporations get DDoSed by them!!!''
asciilifeform recalls mp, proud cocksure ignoramus, 'i hate udp, it's what ddos is made of'
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