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asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
btcinfobot: Current BTC price in USD: $15119.48
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 16 nodes...
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=656152
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.083s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=656152
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=656152 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.109s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=656152
watchglass: 108.56.183.188:8333 : (pool-108-56-183-188.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.161s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=656152 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.085s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=656152
watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.206s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=656152
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.191s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=656152
watchglass: 176.9.59.199:8333 : (static.199.59.9.176.clients.your-server.de) Alive: (0.340s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=391673 (Operator: jurov)
watchglass: 84.16.46.130:8333 : (182518.pk.3pp.slovanet.sk) Alive: (0.366s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=431493
watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.355s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=656144
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.573s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=656152
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.791s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=656077 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!
watchglass: 185.163.46.29:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!
watchglass: 185.85.38.54:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-11-08#1024534 << try as i might, to this day can't fathom why naggum et al preferred 'lisp2'. it's simply an ugly kludge, imho.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-11-08 10:34:31 trinque: "people before me decided that two shall be the holy number of symbol spaces, and now that's cosmic fact"
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-11-08#1024537 << i recall the context of these wanks : scheme aficionados spammed the group, and 'spat from on high' on cl, despite having no professional-grade compiler (a la what naggum et al were using for cl) to offer .
snsabot: Logged on 2020-11-08 10:36:54 trinque: honestly this is the sort of ulcerative discourse that probably killed the guy
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-11-08#1024544 << some form of this is The Right Thing. but imho the naive algorithm would be very frustrating to use -- erryone will hear a great many fragments of conversations, where the participants have disjoint wots
snsabot: Logged on 2020-11-08 11:23:38 trinque: an improvement upon this model would be to make it p2p, and for one to hear messages from his own <=l2 (beyond if he likes)
snsabot: Logged on 2020-11-08 10:34:00 trinque: gregorynyssa: eh, there's a bit of irony in naggum's discussion of what "vertical" folks tend to do. he's doing it.
snsabot: (trilema) 2016-08-18 asciilifeform: 'In Paul Graham's world, as soon as oil paint was invented, painting techniques made a discontinuous jump from the fifteenth to the twentienth century, fortuitously allowing Renaissance painters to paint a lot like Paul Graham. ... I blame Eric Raymond and to a lesser extent Dave Winer for bringing this kind of schlock writing onto the Internet. Raymond is the original perpetrator of the "what is a hacker?" essay, in which you quickl
snsabot: (trilema) 2016-08-18 asciilifeform: y begin to understand that a hacker is someone who resembles Eric Raymond. Dave Winer has recently and mercifully moved his essays off to audio, but you can still hear him snorfling cashew nuts and talking at length about what it means to be a blogger[7] . These essays and this writing style are tempting to people outside the subculture at hand because of their engaging personal tone and idiosyncratic, insider's view. But after a whi
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in misc. lulz.
asciilifeform: mats: lol, reminds me of 1990s-era yahoo www directory
asciilifeform: ( not to say necessarily that 0 useful links in there )
asciilifeform: mats: what've you been up to in recent times ?
mats: hackthebox, bjj and boxing training occupies most of my free time
asciilifeform: boxing! neato
mats: i would highly recommend learning bjj if you have any interest in self defense, its truly combat sport for nerds
asciilifeform: mats: how does it differ from other schools of karatism ?
mats: it heavily emphasizes mounts and grappling, and deemphasizes (but doesn't ignore) throws and takedowns, and striking is restricted
mats: its a good one to learn for deescalation, and nobody needs to go to the hospital or morgue afterwards, which is good when you live in a shithole where you can conceivably do five years for a bar fight
asciilifeform: mats: (keep in mind, asciilifeform is not a karatist) can explain why this emphasis/deemphasis is advantageous ?
asciilifeform: wouldn't someone (i.e. defender) still go to the morgue ?
mats: if the defender is competent, they get to decide whether anybody dies
asciilifeform: and -- in my admittedly nonexpert understanding -- if the fists/knives are swinging, 'de-escalation' already failed, neh
mats: i've watched men 50-100lbs heavier than another man (or small woman) forced to submit due to raw technical skill
asciilifeform: mats: how does this work, physiologically ? instant knockout ?
mats: its a kind of superpower, really
asciilifeform: ( if aint knockout -- what exactly keeps the heavyweight from throwing off the lightweight ? )
mats: arm bars, knee bars, arm locks, knee locks, many variations of chokeholds, and so on
asciilifeform insufficiently literate on subj to comment in depth
mats: bjj teaches you to use mechanical advantage from different positions to diminish or nullify the opponent's strength
asciilifeform thought this to be the point of martial arts in the general case
mats: i think its well settled now that bjj is one of the superior soft martial arts after being tested and proven in the mma scene
asciilifeform: is 'mma scene' == 'bar fight scene' ?
asciilifeform: ( and, what's 'soft' in this context? what, then , 'hard' ? )
mats: no, UFC is a big part of the mma scene
asciilifeform: what's 'ufc' ?
mats: ultimate fighting championship. soft arts include aikido, judo, hard arts include karate, tae kwon do, boxing
asciilifeform: mats: a. and what then 'hard arts' ?
mats: these are generalities, some will blend the two to a degree
mats: 'hard arts' rely more on power, striking, throws, takedowns, etc
mats: mma has progressed the study of martial arts a lot, i think expert practitioners would agree that the 'science' of hurting people is better today than at any other time in history, or even 20 years ago
shinohai: "Muh multisig"
feedbot: http://mvdstandard.net/2020/11/armenia-and-azerbaijan-sign-peace-deal-after-azerbaijan-downs-russian-mi-24-helicopter/ << The Montevideo Standard -- Armenia And Azerbaijan Sign Peace Deal After Azerbaijan Downs Russian Mi-24 Helicopter
BingoBoingo: Well, the science of hurting people so long as the eyes and crotch are off limits as targets
asciilifeform: unrelatedly : pfsense is nifty. (deployed a long-massaged box w/ same, today, a+++ so far)
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