#asciilifeform | 2019-12-09

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Devuan's been around a while. http://qntra.net/2015/02/gpg-criticism-reaches-new-low-as-use-cases-expand/

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: 10 miles is the single day tourism distance to beat

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: pretty sure we did >10 last time

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I suspect we indeed beat 10, but we did so with greater looping through the feria which makes map reconciliation harder

BingoBoingo: Due to time constrains we however "cheated" and took a taxi from Pocitos to the far end of the feria which simplifies things a bit

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: enjoyed visit of jfw? ( and is he still there ? maybe i can catch him also..? )

asciilifeform to appear on friday

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It was indeed enjoyable. He's leaving early tomorrow, so we did a greatly compressed tour of the city

asciilifeform: aa was in hurry

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Indeed, and the Mirador was closed despite posting extended hours now that the rennovation was done.

BingoBoingo: So to see the old city and get a view of the ancient fort across the bay we had to hoof it.

asciilifeform will leave on tues. 17 in wee hours

BingoBoingo: On the plus side we saw the bulk on the Navy's actual ships in port.

asciilifeform: neato

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Thing about ways to destroy the incredibly sturdy new RK drives without building a fire where It'll get the wrong sort of attention

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: microwave

BingoBoingo: I actually never acquired one here

asciilifeform: a

asciilifeform: did any rk people actually req cremation ?

asciilifeform: i thought it was by-req. strictly

BingoBoingo: No one specifically requested, but it seems some sorta physical destruction of the drives is the ethical thing to do.

asciilifeform: nuffin short of thermite ( or lengthy exercise w/ bandsaw ) i suspect will eat those.

asciilifeform: i assume yer thinking of the ones with iron shell

BingoBoingo: Those ones indeed. It might be possible to pop the electronic part out through the USB opening. I'll give that a try.

asciilifeform: if you've a drill an' a vise, can also that

BingoBoingo: That's probably cheaper than the microwave

asciilifeform: vise alone, if good one, will do..

asciilifeform: or anvil/sledge.

asciilifeform: use what's at hand.

BingoBoingo: The metal's actually rather soft on these. Went to pry the chip out and the flathead screwdriver instead made a cutting tear.

asciilifeform: suggests hammer time

BingoBoingo: Pliers got the chip out. tiny little thing.

BingoBoingo: Surprisinly no epoxy or glue in the construction. Small plastic spring/wedge is all that secure the working part to the shell

Vexual: one handed sledge that powers from the shoulder rather than over is known as "lump" hammer to me

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It'll be substantially warmer than the last time you were here. Pack that bathing suit https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/La-semana-comenzara

BingoBoingo: https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/La-semana-comenzara-con-calor-y-sin-precipitaciones-segun-Inumet-uc738053

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: asciilifeform has globe, so knew -- and already packed..

asciilifeform: 3d of time on the ground imho oughta suffice to pack machines and then r&r

asciilifeform: (4d, but i expect to sleep most of fri.)

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Packing will take an afternoon, maximum

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: is that vz chix there ?

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: She arrived back in town last week. Her girlfriend took the week off. Met up with the Friday.

asciilifeform: neato.

asciilifeform: re packing, i expect will be quick, i'm bringing the same rotten rags the boxen orig. went in.

BingoBoingo: If you have any weight left after packing machines, the recommended shelf stable item to take out is the local olive oil

asciilifeform: noted. i expect will have weight remain

BingoBoingo: Anyways, do let me know if there is anything you want me to put together into a care basket to drop off at the hotel.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma hit that flea market even.

BingoBoingo: I wouldn't expect anything less.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: need anyffin from gringolandia ? i have gigatonne of slack weight in usa->uy dir..

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you want sumthing bought in usa an' ferried over, gpggram asciilifeform , we can make arrangement.

asciilifeform: feels like a waste to only carry rotting old blankets, lol

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Aite, I'll put together a short list of things unavailable here.

asciilifeform: cool

BingoBoingo: Won't be a long list, but there are a couple things unavailable here that a Walmart will have

asciilifeform: lulazon part #s also ok

asciilifeform: ( i've a permanent next-day-shitting subscr. there )

BingoBoingo: Aite

BingoBoingo: jfw did leave the 48 port switch here for being too heavy.

danielpbarron: nothing to back up, i messed it up right off the bat and then got too busy to ask about it

danielpbarron: suppose i need to sign a message to confirm this though

danielpbarron: asciilifeform, http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=3IuI

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: got it! and will be done today.

shinohai: ./ticker btc usd

btcinfobot: Current BTC price in USD: 7425.52

BingoBoingo_: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=SwwQ << asciilifeform the nice things to have list.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: got it.

BingoBoingo: tyvm

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: para. 1 & 2 items ordered (arrive tomorrow) , para 3 will req. going to town, will do in coming days

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: A+++

asciilifeform: np

asciilifeform: btw very interesting list. i had nfi these were scarce in BingoBoingostan.

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They are indeed. The where and what of supply chains running thin is an odd thing.

BingoBoingo: I've managed to find some nearly civilized sunglasses that do block the UV, but... Just not a big fan of the tint or build quality on them

BingoBoingo: Hard for the locals to know that thing's they have never had are missing.

BingoBoingo: Also https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/Operativo-realizado-en-Kibon-para-prevenir-incidentes-se-repetira-hasta-fin-de-ano-uc738087

BingoBoingo: You too will have the chance to view incredibly energetic helicopter spotlight dancing

asciilifeform: still lively eh

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: No arrests, rather muted crowd when I walked by. Just derpy helicopter and other acessories making an effort to be seen.

BingoBoingo: The amount of time the helicopter spent with the spotlight on the water seemed to me a signal that they weren't at that time actually looking at or for anyone in particular.

asciilifeform: around here choppers also used quite similarly ( i.e. loiter around and make noise, presumably as 'fanfare for the majesty of the inca' somehow.. )

BingoBoingo: I got hit with the spotlight a couple times. Numerous apartments got hit with the spotlight. Kept its altitude lower than the tops of the WTC towers, except when nearing the towers.

asciilifeform: i live near a place they use as fuel station, it was annoying at 1st but naodays sleep through it. sorta like when i lived by the railroad, 40m from the track. 1st coupla wks was annoying, then after properly bolted down shelves, etc. stopped noticing.

BingoBoingo: It took me a bit to get used to this barrio being where airplanes start to get rather low on their approach to the airport, but no longer a particular bother.

asciilifeform: re choppers -- at uni there was an antique wreckage (from 'nam' ? nfi) , liked to climb inside, controls sorta worked. but never had occasion to ride in a working one

asciilifeform off to the dc to repair danielpbarron's unit

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asciilifeform: danielpbarron: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=BA8h and plz confirm.

asciilifeform: jurov: i sent back your elbowed keyboard coin from earlier today , via deedbot pm, plz confirm .

snsabot: (trilema) 2019-12-09 deedbot: jurov paid asciilifeform 1

danielpbarron: asciilifeform, ack

danielpbarron: so can I use emerge to install stuff as long as i don't sync?

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: correct

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: the mirrors presently in make.conf for the most part still work. ( and you can of course build proggies from source in the traditional way, bypassing gentoo's collection when need )

asciilifeform: when the cuntoo folx birth a reasonably-complete kit, i'ma port it to rk and offer as option. until then, this.

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: the reason why must NOT 'emerge --sync' is that gentoo's upstream went full-bore tard in late '17. if you sync, 'emerge' simply becomes paperweight, as no longer accepts the systemdism-ban flags

danielpbarron: i noticed

asciilifeform: this situation already was in place at the time of pilot plant at piz, so i assumed danielpbarron knew. for future rk users will include in setup instructions tho.

danielpbarron: i didn't have a rk on pizarro so never used emerge

asciilifeform: hm for some reason i was certain danielpbarron at one pt had rk

asciilifeform: but yes, can use emerge, and lemme know if need vintage tars at any point.

asciilifeform: iirc for mp's wp in particular, need manually-built mysql ( BingoBoingo , diana_coman , lobbes , published material on this subj )

danielpbarron: trying to install vim, i get this failure http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=7JTa

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: the usual thing to do in cases like this, is, e.g. ls /usr/portage/app-editors/vim and see what older vers. there were, and then e.g. emerge =app-editors/vim-8.0.1298 rather than emerge vim

asciilifeform: ( alternatively can track down the orig. tarball somewhere on the net , but this can be difficult )

asciilifeform: ( when found a tarball manually, drop it into /usr/portage/distfiles and retry the emerge )

asciilifeform: this is what life is like with 'frozen in amber' vintage gentoos. ( not only on rk )

danielpbarron: ok

asciilifeform never discovered this particular breakage because, must admit, never used 'vim'. but currently reproducing it, for to find workaround for other folx, supposing danielpbarron not finds 1st.

shinohai: I use vim, but always build manually because emerge doesn't enable configure options you need for slimv.

asciilifeform: shinohai: can plz share your recipe for danielpbarron ?

asciilifeform testing workaround (made via above algo) atm

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: emerge =ctags-20161028; emerge vim

shinohai: Is pretty simple, I do: http://btc.info.gf/paste/aec7af@raw

shinohai: (then `make && sudo make install` of course)

asciilifeform found that errything he personally uses on rk builds w/out gymnastics like this; but naturally impossible to guarantee for whole known universe of shitware. fwiw ^above worx for vim. ( and shinohai's method prolly also worx. )

asciilifeform tested, vim built thusly runs.

asciilifeform bbl:meat