gregorynyssa: thimbronion: the Serbian (Montenegrin) language is similar to, but, I think, somewhat easier to learn than Russian. I wonder if asciilifeform has any experience with Serbian.
asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: i can hear and read most of the yugoslavs just fine.
billymg: asciilifeform: sort of related to the question of passports in other countries, i'm curious if there have been threads before about why you prefer the US currently to Russia (or if you even do and it's not just a matter of momentum)
billymg: i remember conversations about all countries ultimately being run by men with guns who'll take your stuff if they feel like it, and so there isn't much point in making the effort to relocate
billymg: but there have to be degrees involved. i also remember discussions of "stray bullet vs. bullet with yer name on it"
billymg: so i'm curious to hear your insight into Russia's political situation vs. e.g. the USG (and its various zones)
asciilifeform: billymg: 'pipe country' (a la e.g. uae)
billymg: asciilifeform: how does that translate to left aloneism?
asciilifeform: ( see also )
snsabot: (trilema) 2014-03-03 asciilifeform: or mrs. thatcher's 'we need no more than 15 mil. russians. to service the pipeline.'
billymg is seeking maximum left aloneism, doesn't care if he has to learn russian
asciilifeform: billymg: in 'pipe country', if you have good wot linkup (to the folx who run the pipe), yer golden
asciilifeform: otherwise yer nobody (and in orclands this has immediate implications.)
billymg: so if asciilifeform took job as coder for $pipe_corp, would this give him good standing in the wot?
billymg: or not sufficient
asciilifeform: billymg: neither you nor i will land that job.
billymg: asciilifeform: because must already be in-wot to apply?
asciilifeform: sons, sons in law, nephews, etc, etc., do
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: there aint even an 'apply' in that sense.
asciilifeform: the people for whom it is, know who they are.
asciilifeform: sorta like 7fig positions at u.s. hedge funds.
billymg: i see
asciilifeform: 'left alone' btw imho is a peculiar and perverse formulation of what asciilifeform (or any reasonable folx) would want. unless you like eating tree bark.
asciilifeform: whereas 'left alone with roquefort ad libitum and GB/s ethernet' somehow sounds contradictory.
billymg: asciilifeform: "left alone" might not be the right phrase
billymg: asciilifeform: tbh i very much enjoy city life
billymg: i mean long strings of random numbers left alone, and packets left alone, and free to do with those as you like
asciilifeform: afaik that's nowhere.
gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/alethepedia/2021-05-28#1002793 << for me this is a very important distinction. it is analogous to the difference between random crime and organized crime.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-28 18:39:35 billymg: but there have to be degrees involved. i also remember discussions of "stray bullet vs. bullet with yer name on it"
gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/alethepedia/2021-05-28#1002806 << the strong reliance on family-networks reminds me of (among other things) the older generations of the Deep South.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-28 18:46:48 asciilifeform: sons, sons in law, nephews, etc, etc., do