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thimbronion: LOL plz visit us we are poor nao!
thimbronion: - but I thought it was cyclical LOL!
asciilifeform: thimbronion: i fughet, are you in cr ?
thimbronion: I will be in a couple weeks
thimbronion: ... for a couple of weeks.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: why only weeks ? iirc you had plan to perma-move ?
thimbronion: asciilifeform: Hey one step at a time. Currently working on the divorce.
asciilifeform: a
asciilifeform did not know that this required being on-site
thimbronion: I need to get her through law school for reasons related to alimony.
thimbronion: Gotta take care of the kid, for example.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: am i thick, or isn't 90% of the point of getting outta usa, to get out of these headaches ?
thimbronion: asciilifeform: I suspect having an abandonment charge would not make getting permanent residency any easier.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: so, cr is in the reich after all ?
asciilifeform: ( e.g. ru, i know for fact does not give half a rat's arse re whatever accusation in usa )
thimbronion: It is wrt child support for sure, not sure about alimony. But I guess I admit I'm not ready to jump over there without yet having permanent residency, and at the same time being subject to various civil claims here.
asciilifeform: ( otoh in ru sometimes will suspend passport if bureaucrats decide you owe dough. whereas in usa afaik notyet )
thimbronion: In US if you owe more than 50k federal taxes your passpord will be revoked.
thimbronion: I'm not sure about other debts.
asciilifeform: iirc not enuff to simply owe, has to be 'in default' (i.e. billed repeatedly and not paid). but haven't seen w/ own eyes.
thimbronion: asciilifeform: yes I think that's correct
BingoBoingo: Down here the big motive for keeping the border largely closed this summer seems to be the increasingly acute Venezuela-ing of the neighbor across the river.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lulzily, i've been getting spamola from copa co., '400 $ round trip to uy'. so evidently flights still run ? somehow
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform Flights run yes but gotta have "business" "resident" or "family" pretext
asciilifeform: what kinda dance is involved in e.g. 'business pretext' ?
BingoBoingo: I haven't looked too deep into the exact process, but probably just enough to keep the Porteño hoards from doing the dance and getting on the boat
BingoBoingo: Truckers coming over from Brasil for example have ritual dance at border, but trucks still come
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform USSA finally shitty enough to contemplate making the jump?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: was thinking moar mundanely, 'beach'
BingoBoingo: Aha, they are getting increasingly serious about "waste your first week here 'because virus'" thing, but also largely seems motivated to slow impending Argentine refugee movement.
asciilifeform: what exactly happens ? they lock you in the city clink for 1wk ??
BingoBoingo: Apparently they are expecting arrivals to hotel or Airbnb up that week. Some sort of scheme where police make checks, but intensity of the checks is unclear. Price of being absent during a check though has gone up. All of this in macro scheme seems to be a "humiliate Porteños" dance, but hard to tell what is inside head of boots on ground folk.
asciilifeform: sounds unfun for tourism even if half-true
BingoBoingo: Yes, but... 15 million hungry mouths in Buenos Aires metro area
BingoBoingo: Dolar Blue, market rate for Peso Argentino is at 190 today
asciilifeform: this is the unofficial exch ? ( Official seems to be ~78 ? )
BingoBoingo: Blue is the one dollar trades for on the street. Right now the exchange rate foreign trading markets take Pesos Argentinos for dollar at called "contado con Liq" is also in line with blue and far from official 78
BingoBoingo: Market rate for Peso Argentino blew past double official rate and running towards triple
asciilifeform: sounds rather like late sovok
asciilifeform: the interesting bit is that was similar in '15, but when asciilifeform went there, saw 0 'visible to unarmed eye' consequences of this
BingoBoingo: Well, Buenos Aires nearly completely closed now.
BingoBoingo: By contrast Peso Uruguayo has been holding in the 41-44 to the dollar range since May, most things open. Usually some sort of mouth diaper ritual to transition from outdoors to indoors, but... aside from that ritual and lack of Portuguese on the Rambla rather close to actual normal
BingoBoingo: Expocannabis for example going to be actual in person event at the national science and technology campus in Carrasco.
BingoBoingo: ExpoPrado where other agricultural genetics go to market also happened as in person event in September with some level of theatrics
BingoBoingo: Quite a bit of construction happening, far less trip hazard built into sidewalk along Avenida Gral Rivera
BingoBoingo: Interestingly quite a few once stalled residential construction projects in the neighborhood getting completed
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: similar thing here
BingoBoingo suspects that maybe only Belarus or Cambodia may have been more fun places to spend 2020.

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