mircea_popescu: "i guess they just DON'T LIKE HEROES AROUND HERE!11"
esthlos: the quantum path integral is a farce, even dirac said we need to start over
mircea_popescu: anyone recall that great scene where tom green "Saves the day" at the maternity ward ?
esthlos: quantm field theory is a mess, everyone just wants to be the next einstein, no one cares about understanding what is going on
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 01:25 phf: meanwhile, homebrew, the mac os x package manager, finally pulled the final bate and switch. "build from source" option is now marked as "unsupported" (!!!) in the man pages, everything's being pulled using precompiled archives. building a non-trivial set of packages from source fails along the way with clearly misconfigured formulas. this is possibly of interest only to ben_vulpes (?)
mircea_popescu: the ANTERIOR yes, yes ?
mircea_popescu: but let me point out a cheval that various investigations in the nature of the number cca 1700s were equally ill regarded.
asciilifeform: for the lack of any contact with 'expert perceptions of time', i'll leave this item where it is
mircea_popescu: then again, the notion that a perception of time might not be naive is a pretty tough argument in the first place.
mircea_popescu: naive perception thereof, i guess. anyway.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phf's summary is entirely troo, naggum's item was about time ~units~, zones, seasons. rather than physical concept.
mircea_popescu: esthlos jesus christ could your items not be pdfs for the love of things not sucking.
cazalla: one burmese bitch even starting complaining she couldn't do as many men as some of the other girls
mircea_popescu: "The Long, Painful History of Time" ?
mircea_popescu: if it's not made from fruit, it'd better be 99%'d and then diluted back down.
phf: cazalla: nod, i in fact befriended a guy who has the largest whisky collection on the east coast (an old texan drunk), and despite sampling a large variety, i'm just going to stick to bottom shelf
mircea_popescu: esthlos so what's your take on the imminent quantum computer in a thousand words or less ? :D
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have an entire collection of these somewhere
a111: Logged on 2014-06-04 00:08 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.
asciilifeform: ( where did we put the old one.. )
mircea_popescu: something more in the vein of delighted relief.
mircea_popescu: maybe fondly wasn't the exactly right word.
asciilifeform: and if you merely long for the days of 8 hour compiles -- will luvv large fpga wurk.
mircea_popescu: esthlos i take it you read naggum's overfinnicky in parts, overloose in other parts time essay ?
cazalla: phf, 26yr excellence was nice, but maybe i built it up in my mind to be something other given its cost, i'd be just as happy to drink the 18 or 15 tbh, not that i drink much at all these days anyway
mircea_popescu recalls somewhat fondly old days of "put the model in and wait a few hours for to find out how you fucked it up this time"
mircea_popescu: in other esthlos-powered insta-lulz, "I wish to God these calculations were executed by steam..."
phf: cazalla: what'd you think of 46yr glenfiddih compared to their 12yr etc. stuff? i've had a variety of vintages, and i can't for the love of me feel ~that~ much difference. meanwhile a difference between a 10 and 40 year port is very tangible
asciilifeform: holy FUQ the gigatonne of 3-syllable-per-line liquishit in this log
cazalla: sofiababy, no, stopped watching twitch after it was inundated with gamer girl camwhores, but i read they do well sparking up league of legends, chatting to virgins and getting them to donate to their patreon
sofiababy: In your task bar, right click on the Kleopatra icon, go to ‘Clipboard’, then click ‘Certificate Import’
sofiababy: thereu dont make half
sofiababy: the instructions on how to create a key
cazalla: i bought a bottle of that reserva, was nice, i still prefer bundy rum (although the one i like can't be bought now)
mircea_popescu: i regularily buy the 30yo rum
cazalla: figured why not, once doesn't hurt, not gonna double down and get the 30 yr old
cazalla: yet to step foot there, still waiting on my citizenship and passport
mircea_popescu: what the hell is wrong with it, some nice gold swag
mircea_popescu: in other news, here's another thing teh republic wants to hire : an exceptional orfevre.
mats: from the looks of his unfinished room, none of that happened
a111: Logged on 2017-12-08 14:45 mircea_popescu: in other shit you'll never believe, ukr chickie dun wanna costa rica because "prefers milder climates". "20 is too hot for her"!
mats: lel, i tuned in a couple weeks ago after spam in another chan - weev was brought on and proceeded to rave about using btc to place shorts on papa johns stock
phf: meanwhile, homebrew, the mac os x package manager, finally pulled the final bate and switch. "build from source" option is now marked as "unsupported" (!!!) in the man pages, everything's being pulled using precompiled archives. building a non-trivial set of packages from source fails along the way with clearly misconfigured formulas. this is possibly of interest only to ben_vulpes (?)
phf: this l0de show is now trolling all the people who showed up from the mass advertisement and raging in the youtube live stream section. i'm away from internet for one day, come back it's the same amount of shitshow
phf: asciilifeform: will update all the thing, motherbored finally gave out on the main machine so taking some time to get my infrastructure in order
indiancandy1: someone sent me the link
mircea_popescu: more of the same old http://trilema.com/2014/namecheap-goes-off-the-deep-end-anyone-know-a-decent-domain-registrar/ story of failure to cater to the elite in the blind quest to chase the nobodies.
indiancandy1: whose on the
mircea_popescu: not a bad fit, but the guy is going ass-backwards about it.
phf: "The l0de radio hour is a long-running live call-in show that irregularly broadcasts over the internet, and to pirate shortwave and FM stations. It is hosted by Lode Ray Dio, a gypsy hustler with a long history of fraud, grifting, and treason. The show is notable for its frequent cancellations, obscene and bizarre content, and a high rate of listener suicide."
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: What the fuck is Scientology ? : scientology - Reddit: <https://www.reddit.com/r/scientology/comments/31s3x3/what_the_fuck_is_scientology/>; Reporter Goes Ghetto "WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT" - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DgilNVgB19zM>; LRH pictures you've probably never seen before | Page 2 | Why We ...: (1 more message)
indiancandy1: so i dont need to getvoice al the time
indiancandy1: but they take half man
indiancandy1: yea they riip off american movies
mircea_popescu: and who the fuck is that adam sandler wannabe Aamir Khan schmuck ?
indiancandy1: yea i wathed it
indiancandy1: fuck them
mircea_popescu: THEY SUCKED!
mircea_popescu: o by the way, i checked out some indian films recently.
indiancandy1: and then converting to pounds
indiancandy1: i sold the for 80 euro
indiancandy1: the price has sky rocketed
indiancandy1: the world is now learning about btc
a111: Logged on 2017-12-17 21:01 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752721 << the 'errything roboticized, robo-cabbies driving robo-repairmen to their sites' item is an sv hallucination. none of these items exist, or threaten to , for so long as there are pipes and plumbers there is a role for iq100 folx
a111: Logged on 2017-12-17 20:57 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752726 << the part i dunget is , why is the '1 fork' scenario contemplated at all ? are washing machines a waste because 'whole cubometre, you say, for 1 sock' ? for instance asciilifeform has 0 problem filling regular-sized dishwasher in <1day , and that's with 3 meals and a crew of only 2 .
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-most-chauvinist-serene-order-of-the-holes-gloriouses/ << Trilema - The Most Chauvinist Serene Order Of The Holes Gloriouses
indiancandy1: i couldnt find u on skype either
indiancandy1: where the hell u been kid
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the spamtraps, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Or6S8/?raw=true
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 18:24 mircea_popescu: no, let's also de-equivocate think. there's two kinds of think, one's a forge/reflow/examination of trees resulting in analytical consumption of inputs with actionable outputs guaranteed ; the other is a neurotic behaviour perhaps best described as spinning, whereby specific emotional triggers / detriggers are visited in succession. the prussian model was never concerned with the former in any sense, but merely aimed to elimi
a111: Logged on 2017-12-17 17:53 mircea_popescu: leverage, yes ; replace, no. bitch washes dishes as part and parcel of her staying sane rather than taking off into lalaland.
asciilifeform: ( so somebody who ranked -1sd on a bad day may well score dead center , the next , etc )
a111: Logged on 2017-12-17 17:50 mircea_popescu: considering how bucket 4 was never really more than a % or two ; and how bucket 3 was a good 40% of humanity (about 80% of it male)... this is a social shock, to say the least.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752723 << bucket3 (i.e. 'normals') was -- definitionally, and now as then -- 68% , i.e. +/- 1 sd .
asciilifeform: ( and before anyone mentions 'modern mechanic reads debug codes' -- yes he does, and then spends 5hrs disassembling the greasy, sooty whatevers, to get at $part, just like 100yrs ago. )
a111: Logged on 2017-12-17 17:49 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752691 << sadly and to everyone's despair, bucket 3 went away sometime in 1993. there is ~0 utility for prole in postmodern world. female may make great slave/breeder, as per ye olde http://trilema.com/2016/an-immodest-proposal/ but otherwise, nobody needs a "worker" today for anything.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752721 << the 'errything roboticized, robo-cabbies driving robo-repairmen to their sites' item is an sv hallucination. none of these items exist, or threaten to , for so long as there are pipes and plumbers there is a role for iq100 folx
a111: Logged on 2017-12-17 17:45 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752690 << aha, quite. i dunno if we ever actually formally discussed the item, just vague "is iq a thing or not"
a111: Logged on 2017-12-17 17:53 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752701 << this is silly, especially considering the discussion (washing ~one fork!!~) is specifically about the so-amply-discussed-it's-almost-a-term-of-art bad angle for washing machine. seriously, you expect me to fire up the whole cubometre machinery to wash one fork ? or what, is the one plate from today going to wait 2 weeks to be washed until there's like a third of a load ? nonsense.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752726 << the part i dunget is , why is the '1 fork' scenario contemplated at all ? are washing machines a waste because 'whole cubometre, you say, for 1 sock' ? for instance asciilifeform has 0 problem filling regular-sized dishwasher in <1day , and that's with 3 meals and a crew of only 2 .
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-disambiguation-of-laughter/ << Trilema - The disambiguation of laughter
mircea_popescu: not that much ; but way the fuck more than is common for a state-run state-idea.
mircea_popescu: in fact the pink elephsecret re "halfway houses" is that someone noticed cca 1960 HOW exactly gay communities work when they do, attempted to apply methodology to solving problem of the state (criminal poverty / criminal addiction), with ~some~ success.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-17 17:25 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752699 << surely the point was "female(s) dedicated to upkeep of the house and male in it" and not which devices ya own.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752713 << dun even have to be female. there is such a thing as a "house mother" that's usually an old fag in the sort of "artist communities" composed of gay males as found all over... well, seattle and sf, mostly. but anyway, item exists and proven-to-work.
mircea_popescu: leverage, yes ; replace, no. bitch washes dishes as part and parcel of her staying sane rather than taking off into lalaland.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-17 15:11 asciilifeform: they work pretty well, to the point that asciilifeform sees dwellings where one aint installed, as roughly similar to ones with outdoor latrine
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752701 << this is silly, especially considering the discussion (washing ~one fork!!~) is specifically about the so-amply-discussed-it's-almost-a-term-of-art bad angle for washing machine. seriously, you expect me to fire up the whole cubometre machinery to wash one fork ? or what, is the one plate from today going to wait 2 weeks to be washed until there's like a third of a load ? nonsense.
mircea_popescu: considering how bucket 4 was never really more than a % or two ; and how bucket 3 was a good 40% of humanity (about 80% of it male)... this is a social shock, to say the least.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752691 << sadly and to everyone's despair, bucket 3 went away sometime in 1993. there is ~0 utility for prole in postmodern world. female may make great slave/breeder, as per ye olde http://trilema.com/2016/an-immodest-proposal/ but otherwise, nobody needs a "worker" today for anything.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752690 << aha, quite. i dunno if we ever actually formally discussed the item, just vague "is iq a thing or not"
a111: Logged on 2017-12-17 14:56 asciilifeform: as 'iq tests' were used 100yr ago, worked great . i.e. on ~small children~, who don't train for it or expect it ; and worx fine for sorting folx into the 4 basic buckets,
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752699 << surely the point was "female(s) dedicated to upkeep of the house and male in it" and not which devices ya own.
BingoBoingo: The pooling would have gone unnotice by myself if it wasn't for the right side of my bed being where water slowly leave the roof for the building interior.
BingoBoingo: Other tenants y staff don't seem to be panicking, so it's anthropology time.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: So far so god, aside from a critical structural failing banana'd into the hostel...
asciilifeform: they work pretty well, to the point that asciilifeform sees dwellings where one aint installed, as roughly similar to ones with outdoor latrine
a111: Logged on 2017-12-17 05:49 mircea_popescu: let's try and understand this : running a house without a bipedal dishwasher, either in personam or as the role only, to be filled by whichever of the available persons according to some (arbitrary, male-oppressive-phalocentric, etc) criteria results in the situation where you gotta pay 3 cents whenever you use a fork. what has been saved ?
asciilifeform: as 'iq tests' were used 100yr ago, worked great . i.e. on ~small children~, who don't train for it or expect it ; and worx fine for sorting folx into the 4 basic buckets,
a111: Logged on 2016-09-13 21:07 asciilifeform: aha. and so it looks like this is a replay of the iq thread - it is quite impossible to specify 'smart', but trivial to specify stupid; impossible - good fuck, easy to describe a useless one; the list of horrible food is easy to make (start with, say, asphalt) but not so of tasties; etc
a111: Logged on 2017-12-17 09:22 mircea_popescu: at the dumb end of the spectrum, however.. o ya. iq 88 is very much ahead of iq 83, and painfully evidently so. under 100, maybe even 120 or so, it DOES put a very strict upper limit on what people can do.
mircea_popescu: aaand in further http://trilema.com/2015/the-squares-and-the-holes/#selection-343.240-343.263, ilkka k : when a woman has to fuck but "doesn't want to" then "no means no" ; but when a man has to give up his income but "doesn'rt want to" then "taxation is necessary for the good of everyone & society etc bla bla".
mircea_popescu: aaand in other pravda lulz, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/12/13/men-charged-in-terror-plot-to-kill-muslims-want-trump-voters-on-their-jury/
mircea_popescu: this view neatly explains both why mensa is fulla failures and why there's not that many iq 69s writing papers about how meaningful iqs are.
mircea_popescu: at the dumb end of the spectrum, however.. o ya. iq 88 is very much ahead of iq 83, and painfully evidently so. under 100, maybe even 120 or so, it DOES put a very strict upper limit on what people can do.
mircea_popescu: this suddenly clarifies a lingering... not quite disagreement i wouldn't say, but something or the other with asciilifeform re iqs. i don't credit the concept at the upper bound -- saying this guy is smarter than this other guy because 138 > 133 is a very dumb way of approaching the matter ; or othersise stated, IQ > 100 is entirely meaningless.
mircea_popescu: come from the anti-IQ side! In other words, members of the anti-IQ camp simultaneously believe that on one hand, everybody is an equally valuable human, but on the other hand, those who deny this, even by a tenuous implication, are subhuman."
mircea_popescu: aand in other news, "What is the lowest IQ that allows some person to write a peer-reviewed paper that proves that IQ is meaningless? Another curious paradox that I noticed was how the anti-IQ camp fears that acknowledging the existence of IQ would result in some people being classified as "subhuman" and treated accordingly. However, every single time that I have actually seen somebody being called a "subhuman", this has
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/12/17/the-elusive-jumping-jew-and-other-unorthodox-pre-taxidermic-fauna-native-to-maui/ << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The elusive Jumping Jew and other unorthodox pre-taxidermic fauna native to Maui.
mircea_popescu: "Once we get rid of the social construct that men are physically stronger than women, little girls will surely grow up to be just as strong as men. We can already see glimpses of this future utopia of equality in many junior sports events where a 12-year-old girl competes with 12-year-old boys and wins!"
mircea_popescu: within a half year you'd end up with a little traditional village within the walls. practically say (pre war) syria, or ukraina. reconstructed, at great expense.
ben_vulpes: american democracy is a miserable thing, demanding that there be one boss (the state) and all subservient to it without ever acknowledging their subservience.
ben_vulpes: when i ran a small coeterie of staff the steel spine of our success was the chain of command from whence sense and marching orders came, and everyone's utterly clear understanding of where they stood
mircea_popescu: and so no... there isn't anything to talk about ; over beer or over anything else. just look away with empty eyes.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-08 15:02 asciilifeform: the 'good climate makes folx lazy and slowly climbing 'back up to trees' ' item is an old saw, but i'm not aware of any major hole in the theory
mircea_popescu: ie, yes http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-08#1748753 may well be the case ; but meanwhile i suspect the north actually invented madness.
mircea_popescu: something in the cold, windy sky drying people out inside.
mircea_popescu: compare and contrast with eg. il merlo maschio, same topic but in the olive oil lands of southern europe, and suddenly some kind of fundamental problem becomes more than evident.
mircea_popescu: it's a fundamental statement of the problem, i'd say unavoidable. rich "software engineer" of the 70s (ie, architect, like those guys in the swiss pornos always seemed to be, recall?) goes off his rocker and kills a woman.
ben_vulpes: such a sad thing, the rejection of hierarchy.
mircea_popescu: most "couple trouble" among college-educated esl readily reduce to "two subbies tired of their bitter arguments over who has to dom for the evening".
mircea_popescu: amusingly, you'll be surprised how many MEN are in the same position.
trinque: what the hell's wrong with it? girl's been glowing over getting to do so.
trinque: on the matter of women serving men, it's been real nice having the one in household finding various delicious liquid foods to serve up while my wisdom tooth holes mend.
mircea_popescu: there's some fundamental alienation at work in the german lands, of which england is a sad, marginal, forgotten island (of which colonies are ... all a sort of sadder wales). have you ever seen Aus Dem Leben Der Marionetten ?
ben_vulpes: now if only there were anything to talk about over beer but gay marriage
mircea_popescu: in a sense taking the garbage pouring out of pantsuit mouth as such and trying to engage it on merits is not unlike the fool of old, looking at the hand that pointed at the moon.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, "bla bla gay marriage" means exactly nothing other and above "wanna go for a beer ?"
mircea_popescu: ~same with blacks, they picked blacks over latinos simply because there's fewer of them, which isn't to say this is any kind of mental process, of course. the moth didn't pick light "because", in any sort of moth-personal sense, it just got picked for it by the workings of matters external.
mircea_popescu: able to locate it easily, and exactly same for pantsuit. they picked "gay" to worship because it's relatively cheap and easy and ineffectual (as in it dundu nuffin, see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1750998 re this) -- because there's virtually no gays as such.
mircea_popescu: anyway, that i record protest only should not be construed in a negative view of the man. on the contrary, he has many good points chief among which the systematic deployment of the view that whatsoever the pantsuit claim to think, believe, etcetera has absolutely no direct value, and is no more meaningful than the finch's call. the finch doesn't MEAN something by the noise it makes ; it merely intends for other finches to be
mircea_popescu: seems to me the tiny knolwedge afflicts he who should stfu and do a better job of world domination.
mircea_popescu: let's try and understand this : running a house without a bipedal dishwasher, either in personam or as the role only, to be filled by whichever of the available persons according to some (arbitrary, male-oppressive-phalocentric, etc) criteria results in the situation where you gotta pay 3 cents whenever you use a fork. what has been saved ?
mircea_popescu: market more "inefficient" compared to central planning led by "smart" people. It is certainly amazing how technology and commerce allow mass production of plastic spoons to be sold for three cents apiece, well worth the time and convenience they save me."
mircea_popescu: , the way free market prices allocate resources can often be counterintuitive and seemingly unfair for some English major with tiny knowledge but big visions of how she would completely reorganize the entire world as the central planner [aka, http://trilema.com/2014/a-practical-exercise-for-people-who-cant-afford-airfare/#selection-35.0-47.226 's the bare-tit-floor-washers], letting them beclown themselves by calling the free
mircea_popescu: "An important role of prices in free markets is to convey information about individual needs and preferences in a world of seven billion people who can each see only a very small part of it. A while ago, a poster elicited fawning oohs and aahs in the progressive blogosphere by pointing out how absurd it is to go through all the steps needed to make a plastic fork instead of using a metal fork and washing it afterwards. Indeed
mircea_popescu: iirc that always was there.
mircea_popescu: so no, the male phalic supremacy opressing all others, especially stupid women and dumb ethnos isn't going away ; and it certainly won't permit the leverage of this "but we like to fuck and disagree!!!" tool to unhinge it
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, there's nothing fundamentally scientific about retarded anglo-neoprotestantisms ; nor anything fundamentally retarded anglo-anything about science.
mircea_popescu: this happened because the minimalistic religion of the time appealed to people "who just wanted to", and really didn't see why they should pay court to napoleon when there were volumes to measure say.
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the upstack, the "science tries to [...] silence all hedonistic and rebellious dissent against it" nonsense is a sad misread of history by people who really should know better. yes it's true that for a while scientists were also puritans, as a religious inclination.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-31 16:28 asciilifeform: and if someone wants to mention godel etc -- ethical engineer MAY NOT cite godel, EVER, just as a police detective MAY NOT cite the supernatural and admit a hypothesis of miraculous theft from a safe
mircea_popescu: goedel directly says, "science is just one text and necessarily no complete". that this is not equivalent with "irigaray is better than average milkmaid" is true, but also who the fuck cares about irigaray enough to put her name in this.
mircea_popescu: but it bears repeating : there stands, and well respected for good cause, an century old result of science that shows there can not be such a thing as an explicitly consistent system.
mircea_popescu: rather, a "retelling of old games of scientific method".
asciilifeform: to the point there is a 'science', it's a box o' heuristics, not magical substitute for errything-incl-priors
mircea_popescu: (consider the most scientific attempts to make sewing machine that failed for a century, and the most unscientific eventual solution. also, evidently, airplanes.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform provided there's a direction in the first place. science is defenseless in front of category error
a111: Logged on 2017-09-07 17:50 mircea_popescu: but yes, this provides on the side an excellent explanation in this context's terminology of why man must learn languages : it is the ONLY way to have orthogonality in natural speech.
mircea_popescu: it's evidently not true that "all reads are equally valid" or in any way just as good ; but it's certainly not the case that science is sufficient per se. this should be directly evident, but even without that : science is, much like nature itself, a SMOOTH process (a valuable reference here being http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-04#1732986 ), and as such WILL get trapped in local maxima. which is why heuristics is a thing, and
mircea_popescu: brushing off the "here's how stupid people use microscope as hammer because they're hammer folk and irrespective of microscope in any sense" as thoroughly uninteresting : it's fundamentally true that science, even if properly understood (as in eg http://trilema.com/2017/is-it-still-rape-if-i-write-science-on-my-penis-first/ ), is still nothing more than one "text", ie, one possible read of pheomena.
mircea_popescu: comedy in how they now whine that those global warming deniers disrespect the absolute authority of science, so all those dissenters ought to be silenced and their hedonistic lifestyles curtailed... by force if necessary?"
mircea_popescu: o justify the right of the white male patriarchal capitalist phallogocentric power hegemony to dictate its values and lifestyle choices on the oppressed groups and silence all hedonistic and rebellious dissent against it. Fast forward to the present day, and now the humanities and liberal arts are solidly left-wing in the culture wars, for various reasons. Surely I can't possibly be the only one to laugh at the unintentional
mircea_popescu: ciences that get constantly tested and have to prove their correspondence to the uncompromising objective reality every day, no wonder they fell so hard for the postmodernist mumbo-jumbo of Derrida, Latour and Lacan that sweetly whispered in their ears that Western science is only one narrative and "text" among many that are equally valid, and since it is an objective truth that no objective truths exist, science only tries t
mircea_popescu: "A few decades ago before all this current silliness started, the humanities and liberal arts departments in academia were badly losing the science wars. After all, even astrology at least makes falsifiable predictions (to say nothing of the fact that stars actually exist), a hurdle far above the abilities of most of the humanities. Desperate to prove that they are just as true and valid systems of thought as all those hard s
mircea_popescu: o hey, only took a dozen of these to run aground. here we go :
mircea_popescu: hurt a pantsuit today, the worse the better and the more lastingly the more productive.
mircea_popescu: perfectly fine statement ; though of course what you can do is... beat them. doh.
mircea_popescu: doesn't understand the enormous complexity and the "root causes" of this problem. What can you do, except perhaps escape to one of the few remaining islands of sanity, and hope that the madness doesn't follow you there, at least for a while?"
mircea_popescu: easingly messy bureaucracy that claims to help headache sufferers even though it only ever comes up with increasingly absurd "solutions" to the new problems that its actions conjure up while its proponents do their best to explain away these consistent failures. On the other hand, if you try to help by suggesting that their heads would stop hurting if they just stopped banging them against the wall, you are a "simpleton" who
mircea_popescu: "If I had to describe using only a couple of sentences what it feels like to be a conservative, I would probably compare it to the hypothetical but surreal experience of noticing how many people around you have headaches because they keep banging their heads against the wall. If you don't do anything, that makes you objectively a "part of the problem", especially if you express any distaste towards having to pay for some incr
mircea_popescu: cribe in public, but certainly not in their private actions, to the shibboleths of this group."
mircea_popescu: r the verbal New Class, downwardly mobile in not just wealth but also societal respect, and desperate to distinguish itself from the working class. Since this vanguard tends to be paid not enough to do this with classic material means, they have set up a parallel status hierarchy based on the tastes and aspirations of Lloyd Dobler to ensure that they get to be its kings and, mostly, its queens. Even the few rich liberals subs
mircea_popescu: "The entire spectrum of thought of those who we call liberals, progressives, socialists, trendoids or Marxists [ie, what we call pantsuit] depending on what is fashionable today, can be reduced to and explained as the simple automata that they are. After identifying many genuine problems and solving them to the extent that they can be solved, liberalism devolved into naked group identity politics and petty status signaling fo
mircea_popescu: kinda why the whole "do you have money ? no ? then shut the fuck up." works so well socially, personally and in general. because they... don't. and they know how to get it and know they can't get it. hence "cat-v" etc.
mircea_popescu: for the first time in a decade, at that. BUT I DID IT!
mircea_popescu: i just cut myself a slice of cozonac, and put my own ice in my own fucking cinzano. and then, when i wanted a refill, I STOOD UP AND GOT IT.
asciilifeform: he collected, and self-published as shitazon + deadtree ( which i even have, picked up before it was banned ) . then zapped.
asciilifeform: and it isn't boring , either. pretty great stuff.
asciilifeform: from same thread, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ilkka.zip << still there, still afaik only copy of his 1st blog in existence on public net
a111: Logged on 2014-11-16 05:31 mircea_popescu: The brilliant Finnish-Canadian computer science professor / blogger Ilkka Kokkarinen has taken down his popular blog, presumably to keep his job after his campus newspaper noticed his heterodox views. His skepticism about the intellectual consistency of lesbian-feminist theory and practice would appear to have been his biggest crime.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's lifted directly out of the ( long ago vanished ) shitazon 'ebook' copy.
mircea_popescu does his usual s%\n\n%\r\r% s%\n% % s%\r\r%\n\n% while muttering underbreath about the idiocy of fucktards who STILL DON'T UNDERTAND NEWLINE STANDS FOR NEW PARAGRAPH!!11
mircea_popescu: wtf is with all the orc glyps
asciilifeform: and cleverly hide behind the clitlers , somehow.
mircea_popescu: maybe it's just what the pulsar IS
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybe they come back. they've been really spotty throughout history as it is, like this radio that keeps going in and out
asciilifeform: yes but why then.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752381 << hey, turns out there's a term for this! i had nfi.
asciilifeform: i still have nfi wtf happened to the swedes. in '40s they were an actual thing, supplied something short of 100% of german iron
mircea_popescu: just like the swedes.
asciilifeform: the marginally less-herbivorous survived, to slowly eltsin to death in casinos in dakota somewhere
mircea_popescu: well, fwis they did without complaint, all that's left of "the great iroquis" is the occasional tall, fuckable redskin chick.
mircea_popescu: the jews did not invent, it is naturally occuring. in places with high natural food resources at low cost (say fishing in sweden, berry picking in northern us etc) -- happens.
mircea_popescu: consider how the jew system works : balabusta in tyhe shop selling to make money for man to sit all day around sinagogue and godbureaucrat.
asciilifeform: dunno if it makes sense to equate gatherer-monkey to bureaucrat
mircea_popescu: you can have it in places where the women are relatively infertile and the berry bushes abundant.
asciilifeform: an afaik mandatory precondition for bureaucracy , is to have with what to feed the mass of useless folx
mircea_popescu: though various failed bioexperiments such as the pesky northern american troglodytes -- iroquis et all, seemingly managed to invent a bureaucracy-without-empire
asciilifeform: they still suffer it.
asciilifeform: the chinese had the misfortune to invent the bureaucrat, the 'delusionist' , and other undesirable 'moderns' , 2k yr before europe 'climbed down from trees'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform landlockness is a major predictor. notice, koreans less retarded than chinese. there's this sweetspot in terms of shore/sqacre basis\
mircea_popescu: and it impressed nobody that "hey, we sum up to X", because the X was so un-intensive.
mircea_popescu: there's a very deep reason why the english landed in china thought china is fit to be a sort of wales -- more distant, populated by dumber monkeys (yes the "gauls" were monkeys -- farming idiots), larger but still, fundamentally fucking wales.
asciilifeform: poverty makes some folx frugal, thrifty, able to make wonders 'in 4kB of ram' etc -- others -- into monkeys, and asciilifeform doesn't know why
mircea_popescu: perfection, no matter in what problem, is the only item of interest whatsoever.
asciilifeform: nearly escaped the island, even
mircea_popescu: ie, right back to the calorimetry-yer-stove discussion.
mircea_popescu: but the reason they are admired, unlike say the chinese, who were never admired and possibly never will be, is because they squeezed so very much of the fucking little the yhad.\
asciilifeform: ( they look exactly as if )
asciilifeform: lolyes ever see ye olde gravures, with the mousetrap shoes.
mircea_popescu: NOT the fucking same thing. at all!!!
mircea_popescu: in exactly typical socialist fashion, the fucktards have been selling off this item not belonging to them, "technological progress", repainted as "hey, new iphone came out!! it's cheaper and shittier and works less!!!"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik the only otherwise-functional culture that failed to invent proper chimneys, was east asia ( e.g. jp ) where hole-in-the-ceiling
mircea_popescu: night hall inherited from his granpa with modern teracotta item. THAT was progress, and the knights applauded, and felt proud to fight and die for such a greatly SUPERIOR homeland, as represented by their lords castle, as communicated to them by their god damned STOVE. and by, to quote period, "wer kriegt so prompt wie der preusse sein traktament!"
mircea_popescu: but, it is very important to revisit and underline ye olde mazarin point ( ie http://trilema.com/2014/modern-medicine-and-the-benefits-of-democracy/ ) : there is constant technological progress, in the PROPER sense (ie, NOT for plebels, but for lords AND FOR LORDS ONLY) going from 700ad to 1700ad. THIS, and THIS ONLY is what gave "technological progress" its good name -- when the lord changed ye olde fireplace in the common k
trinque now emerge --emptytree @world to see what other mysteries await
asciilifeform: trinque: iirc ben_vulpes recently ran into the same wall
trinque: heh, in other peasant huts, cannot build gcc 4.9.4 from 6.4.0 on gentoo musl, gotta step to 5.4.0 first.
asciilifeform: ( often enuff where they were burned, you can still find the stove, it stands 4evah )
asciilifeform: peasant huts had their own type of stove
mircea_popescu: ie, it was strictly a manor house item historically ; and part of the manorial system in europe.
asciilifeform: nobody conceived that monkeys will try to house themselves in gigantic wooden shacks
mircea_popescu: but, also just as important though not in fact exposed for other reasons : stove IS BUILT IN PLACE.
asciilifeform: they all rely on brick aha
a111: Logged on 2017-12-17 03:09 mircea_popescu: turns out there was a remarkably good solution, and a bunch of notbad ones.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752450 << to continue thread : the essential boojum is that you cannot have any kind of good stove, swedish, austrian, whichever, in cardboard house
asciilifeform: ( ada params are a moar complicated matter than ffa might suggest: when reading heathen proggies you will encounter such things as 'aliased' i.e. pointerola , and related items. )
asciilifeform: and, naturally, the standard, http://www.ada-auth.org/standards/12rat/html/Rat12-4-2.html
ben_vulpes: so 'in out' means that data can be read from the param and will also be written into, whereas 'out' means that data will only be written to the param in the procedure?
asciilifeform: ( these are different animals in ada planet )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752379 << the shin is not the tibia, the shin is the front part of the lower segment of human leg, opposite calf.
asciilifeform: i.e. writes 0 into each word of the destination.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there is no 'constructor' in ffa . and FZ_Clear does exactly as printed on the box
mircea_popescu: aside the matter that the problem hasn't been approached in postmoidernism, i dun see much better solutions available than historically found.
ben_vulpes: anyways, way the heck upstack, `FZ_Clear` 'sets a given FZ to zero' but i only see an outparam; is this not more of a constructor than zero-er?