a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 14:27 ave1: I'll have to think about it, I do not want to make changes that make things more complex for "reasons" and then more complex enzovoorts enzovoorts. And then end up with PGP
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787216 << it seems rather, that first you should evaluate the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787207 and see if indeed it makes sense, or it's just the proverbial "first notion that formed in head upon quarter seccond's apprehension of $item" ; if indeed it is needed, legitimately, then the next step is to make a file handler that eats your file as you want it on one hand and emulates fg
ave1: k, will install the client this week-end (instructions seem not that hard to follow)
diana_coman: as to trying eulora: it's not time consuming really; I guess the initial jump can seem intimidating until you figure out what is what and what to do
diana_coman: trouble with the future is that it is...the future; I'd have gladly avoided C all together but unfortunately mpi is in C and then eulora relies on a lot of C code still
a111: Logged on 2018-02-28 15:57 mircea_popescu: ave1 you should ; also read through the eucrypt thing, ima (for instance) need someone to package it into a cmd line gpg replacement as soon as next wek.
ave1: I've started on http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-28#1786498, in Ada code and now I'm debating if I shouldn't just move the code to C as the eucrypt interface is C. But then maybe eucrypt will move to FFA someday in the future and Ada will be a benifit. (Working on code with lot's of C calls in Ada is not nice...)
ave1: No, not yet, I want to do that one of these days. (Real life keeps interfering)
diana_coman: but for now it survives as it is because there are so many other things that are more pressing, sigh
diana_coman: heh, there is that slippery slope; and note that in all that there, it's still that darned mpi that is the biggest part and I am absolutely not convinced it has to be THAT big
diana_coman: for completeness: there is in fact a performance penalty for opening/closing the entropy source repeatedly, so from this point of view yes, you'd want it open and reused; that being said, it's not a massive penalty and atm I can live with it
ave1: I'll have to think about it, I do not want to make changes that make things more complex for "reasons" and then more complex enzovoorts enzovoorts. And then end up with PGP
diana_coman: you can certainly do it the way you describe - I don't see a hard reason against it if you are all right with passing the handle around/keeping track of it everywhere; other than that, the functionality itself should be fine
diana_coman: to answer the question directly: you can certainly do it with reuse; the reason I avoided it there is because otherwise the caller needs to handle/be aware of the entropy source per se; which did not really belong in the caller
diana_coman: ave1 there is open_entropy_source which simply opens it and returns the handle; then you can use it for as long as you want, with get_random_octets_from (rather than get_random_octets)
diana_coman: ave1, there is one function for that too
ave1: diana_coman, I'm reading through the eucrypt / RSA code and see that the 'get_random_prime' function will open and close the random number generator itself. I would like to open the entropy source once and reuse it, but maybe there is good reason to do it like this and I should not attempt to do it differently?
deedbot: http://barksinthewind.com/2018/vtools-c-interop-other-fixes/ << BARKS IN THE WIND - vtools C interop, other fixes
mircea_popescu: aand in other lulz, a particularly dedicated scanner : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/CPKIF/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: anyway. i guess nothing in the world is harder than fucking groking the http://trilema.com/2014/namecheap-goes-off-the-deep-end-anyone-know-a-decent-domain-registrar/ lesson. especially when one's dedicated his life to not ever groking it.
mircea_popescu: fraud is exactly the circumvolution.
asciilifeform: not substantially different from other american 'incomes', e.g. lockheed's , ( i.e. usg prints printolade, sends straight to $designateds )
mircea_popescu: the "online ads" thing is so fucking dead, alphabet continuing to claim that as income is much more scandalous fraud than anything gaddafi ever did.
asciilifeform: hm i thought fetlife was the usual 'ad-supported' 'phree' crapola, rather than a pay www
mircea_popescu: but this paradigm where "we will cater to the peniless but opinionated female herd, instead of the rich and actually powerful white male" fucked them over.
mircea_popescu: this entire exercise in idiocy has, practically speaking, resulted in me paying various hard working ticos a grand or so, to the people fucking in the ass the "security" paradigm of pantsuit.fetlife. IN LIEU of having paid that much, and rather more, to the fetlife itself.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i had no idea how much i actually missed qntra. << Turns out it isn't absence that makes the heart grow fonder, but the return!
mircea_popescu: sooo... big deal, 1 sent girl to buy a bagful of phone numbers. they cost, no joke, $2.5 here. EXCEPT, of course, they want your "cedula", you know, "por activacion".
mircea_popescu: in other lulz of the ongoing fetlife saga, they've MASSIVELY rate limited profile views. check out ~100 people in an hour or so, get timed out.
BingoBoingo: Oh yeah, hence the sunscreen run
renard_abroad: are the chemical burns that much more visible?
renard_abroad: but also are very strangely short and frequently wearing the kind of makeup that makes skin worse
BingoBoingo: Guess where the conference is?
mircea_popescu: where were you while these doods were turning their life around, flying to uruguay and etcetera anyway ?
mircea_popescu: now less excuses, none of this "my pantsuit existence comes before the republic" ever again and more productivity. MUCH more productivity.
mircea_popescu: that only way is utterly and most pointedly NOT http://trilema.com/2013/how-lord-lentil-became-a-thing/#selection-363.125-363.223 ; and you, as well as everyone, can forthwith consider the admin asked you to stop.
mircea_popescu: i'm certainly not puting the "this is how it is" imprimatur on some training mock-up of v implemented by some new kid. and in general enough with this burning of steps in a hollow quest for equality, you're not phf, and there is ONLY ONE WAY to become phf.
mircea_popescu: esthlos i don't get it, you're going to take a stab "at it" ie making a textfile, the sort that only carries any sort of weight or importance if a) you're somebody and b) you're doing something important, in between whenever your fiat job permits you a few hours here and there ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 14:28 mircea_popescu: esthlos it is not standard procedure ; the emerging consensus is to have a dedicated philosophy file which a) all patches must touch (by protocol) ; b) contains comments as to the patcher's state of mind and c) contains one line per patch uniquely identifying it, machine generated. the format's not fixed yet, but as phf is working on a new proper vdiff it's probably going to coalesce around a variant of whatever he uses.
esthlos: phf (or anyone else): is there a vpatch I can look at with the new format described here: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774760 ?
BingoBoingo: ^ And now this year appears to be getting a very 2012 feel as the ghost of Amir's anti-credibility campaign ramps up
mircea_popescu: they're fuckin hopeless.
BingoBoingo: They have even went futher and started dressing up the broken monkeys in suits and moved them from shows about the sports they used to play to hosting the old people and NEET morning shows
mircea_popescu: eh, i just want performance. they've got this thing now, where they're so desperate for cheap footage, they'll actually dress up athletes like they were people, seat them down in studios and make them talk.
mircea_popescu tried to read above-linked rundown of gnu failure at social media ; erection died about midway through. really, kids too clueless to comprehend how clueless they are writing "the history" of how spurious irc re-implementation went nowhere ?
mircea_popescu: aha. they have a (dead) freenode chan.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'rockchip' rk series. asciilifeform ported trb to these in 2015.
mircea_popescu: ie you must know placement, rather exactly.
asciilifeform: ( in lattice's 'ice', the elements are homogeneous, so it was a nonproblem )
asciilifeform: the seekrit tricky bit , is that if you can't compute an ~exact~ delay path, in nsec, between any point 'a' and 'b' in the fabric, yer tool is ~useless
mircea_popescu: nonlinear maybe once they're dead.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-11 16:49 apeloyee: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764242 << do I understand correctly that there's nowhere to store the result, as there seems to be enough hw adders in an 'ice'?also, it seems that the same authors are trying to reverse some xilinx nao: https://symbiflow.github.io/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re the xilinx reversing attempt , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-11#1769036 << prev thread
asciilifeform remembers a lengthy picolisp thread, but either forgot or did not know , that it had own chan
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform got brought up in #picolisp which is why i bothered.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-23 16:20 phf: re upstack, there's been a resurgence of sorts of gopher protocol, various hipsters spinning up personal websites, etc. whether the resurgence was shortlived or i'm just late to the game, but there's already a community of wreckers (one of them groups is coming from this federated twitter platform, mastodon) discussing all the various ways that they want to "improve" gopher, tls, utf-8, markdown renderer, "minimal subset of html", etc. but at the same
a111: Logged on 2018-03-06 20:59 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other lulz, https://robek.world/featured/what-is-gnu-social-and-is-mastodon-social-a-twitter-clone/
mircea_popescu: ith, and certainy with the same bad hair) knocking on her door and saying "mimsy ? cool it!" so matthau can lay into them with "he went to college for four years and all he's got is cool it ?!".
mircea_popescu: and for the crit lit / media experts, here's a conundrum : cool it carol, easily the best movie made in the 70s and one of the best movies ever, came out 1970. in 1971, "plaza suite" featuring matthau and various women has a segment dedicated to this anti-carol (mimsy), a dumb murican priss who locks herself in bathroom on her wedding day. the clou of the entire production is made into some schmuck (almost as ugly as rob askw
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other lulz, https://robek.world/featured/what-is-gnu-social-and-is-mastodon-social-a-twitter-clone/
ave1: Remembered octets when this came up in the discussion.
BingoBoingo: Well, one small herd of boxes on its way here. Hopefully this time we've assembled the men and talents necessary to secure and sustain a digital space from which to serve the notices of hanging.
mircea_popescu: 2017-02-04 23:23 ec changed the topic of #elliottcable to: a π―ππ ππ π―πππππππππ π―ππππππ slash sΝΜuΝΝpΝΝeΜΜΊrΜΌΜ¦iΜΌΜoΜΜ¬rΜΜ cΜΝα»₯Μ§ΝαΈ·Μ‘ΝΕ£ΝΜ || #ELLIOTTCABLE is not about ELLIOTTCABLE
mircea_popescu: this is the limit where it must stop!
BingoBoingo: Pretty sure that's actually in the stankred pantsuit texts: Power differential sex abuse.
BingoBoingo: Why no outrage for the poor suffering Sergeant who had to convincingly pretend enthusiasm when banging it out with a bag old enough that she had a mid-20's adult son die from terminal reddit/opiods last year.
BingoBoingo: When dem hollywood boys do it "Exploitation!" when pantsuit does it "wage theft"
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/03/pantsuit-nashville-mayor-resigns-while-admitting-to-theft/ << Qntra - Pantsuit Nashville Mayor Resigns While Admitting To Theft
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 15:44 mircea_popescu: but not on "byte" meaning anything other than what it does, which is to say... "how much the machine takes in at a time"
asciilifeform has at least a mild hint of bureaucracy flavour associated in head with 'octet' -- the word is mandatory in rfc txt's
mircea_popescu: i expect porn is very much going the way of fashion, or academia : first, faggots get a hold of it, then... nobody would touch it with a ten foot pole.
mircea_popescu: i didn't know non-romanian speakers even knew the word "octet"
deedbot: http://ave1.org/2018/from-the-proverbial-peanut-gallery/ << ave1 - From the proverbial Peanut Gallery
mircea_popescu: in other sad news, holy shit the http://trilema.com/2018/minigame-smg-january-2018-statement/ was utterly broken (and nobody said anything!!!) hence the delay with this month's report. will be publishing a restated version of the jan one too.
diana_coman: as to the serpent_self_test procedure - it can in principle even go away entirely as there is an equivalent test in the tests dir where tests should be anyway; the self_test is left mainly because it was in the original, but not crucial in any case
diana_coman: I am not using To_Ada or To_C so they can be removed, not an issue
diana_coman: ave1, take your time on it; just publish when it's ready and I'll give it another go
ave1: For example the zfp lib is not really written (at this moment) for a C main program, so 'adafinal' is missing.
ave1: After that, as it turns out, ada still produces some code which is not supported by the zfp lib. I fixed some of this, but this is very much a build - add some code - retry cycle and that will take some time.
ave1: Then, smg_serpent self_test procedure needs to be function and raised removed
ave1: The function versions of To_Ada and To_C need to be removed + exceptions raised
ave1: diana_coman, I have a version that has both files, but not published yet. It is not hard to make, copy from the runtime dir the files: i-c.ads, i-c.adb (for Interfaces.C) and a-unccon.ads. Then edit i-c.ads and i-c.adb
a111: Logged on 2018-02-19 13:25 diana_coman: also: is ave1's blog in the rss list? I find it quite useful
diana_coman: trinque, what do I need to do to add ave1's www to deedbot's list? http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-19#1784953 ; I really would have liked to have seen http://ave1.org/2018/sending-arrays-of-octets-between-c-and-ada/ when it was published, last week; or did I miss it in the logs somehow?
diana_coman: fwiw the footprint of eucrypt with default runtime is 215K (separate components: mpi 109K; bit_keccak 17K; keccak 42K; rsa 19K; serpent 20K - 31K (depending on level of optimisation chosen)
mircea_popescu: the spiked fig melon. that's right.
mircea_popescu: in other holy shit diversity : there is a FIG melon in this country. it has... spikes.
diana_coman: so then getting something almost like a motorcycle but not quite and in any case as fast but pretending to be still a bike; sheesh
ben_vulpes: motorbikes don't fit in the bike lockup facilities downtown
ben_vulpes: why not take a motorcycle on the bike track for that matter
diana_coman: I mean: get a motorcycle then, no?
diana_coman: but uhm, what's...the...point
ben_vulpes: "springwater corridor" is plenty wide enough for the speed demons to breeze in between groups riding two abreast
diana_coman: so not enough adrenaline then? on those segregated paths?
ben_vulpes: sounds great; there was also plenty of biking along the river and jumping in at arbitrary points to be done but! on segregated paths
diana_coman: well, the very sunny part was included
diana_coman used to do precisely as described cycling + swimming; that's the main part she's missing of South Tyrol
ben_vulpes: there was a lot of fun unused industrial area along the river for quite some time that yielded all sorts of bikefun, but it's been largely sanitized at this point.
ben_vulpes: well, "big", 1.5M if you count most of the exurbs as well
ben_vulpes: THE ADRENALINE
diana_coman: sort of the skiing of summer in that region I'd say; but to the point: cyclists are perfectly people but they don't ride alongside cars - why would one *want* to ride a bicycle among/between/alongside cars, it's nonsense quadrupled
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-05#1786939 <- uhm, hmm, dunno, in South Tyrol they have those great cycling tracks *not in the road of course, completely separate* and it's absolutely great for a day thing: get on bike, cycle up and down the Dolomites for some 2-3 hours, get to a lake, have a rest and a swim, go back in 45 minutes (mostly downhill, fun like hell), sleep like a log
ben_vulpes: woo i have the raid cable
a111: Logged on 2018-03-01 13:52 spyked: anyway, comment was that I managed to compile and run vdiff with small mods; error: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/BiBTI/?raw=true and fix patch: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/9mOiz/?raw=true (tested this with the generated vdiff); I can try to link this reply later in a comment to test.
phf: spyked reported another C attribute annotation issue since then http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-01#1786600 , but it's yet another compiler/system combination problem, and those who managed to build c vdiff previously should be able to do so still (sans the noreturn and 'no newline' issues)
phf: the release have been branched, and you press to two different heads if you want a sha or keccak version, but specifically for hanbot's purposes, sha vdiff is available, with the "no newline" issue fixed, as per http://barksinthewind.com/2018/vtools-keccak/#selection-95.221-99.40
a111: Logged on 2018-03-05 05:31 ben_vulpes: yes but then no
mircea_popescu: in other news, nikki cardenas (kink.com bills her "skylar price" for some incomprehensible reason) has a great gangbang personality.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> it's 830, actually << Ah, you are only traveling 5 hours into the future this week.
ben_vulpes once did time in a shop where folks struggled to make the daily check in at 10a
ben_vulpes: in the middle of rush hour no less
mircea_popescu: hopefully get eaten by dingo pack. in the usual fashion dingos hunt, ie evisceration.
ben_vulpes: i'm going to go for the wheel-mounted blades
mircea_popescu: not even ride them down per se, let nature take its course and cripple them instead.
ben_vulpes: someday riding down offending cyclists will no longer be frowned upon and the world will rejoice
mircea_popescu: i don't see any fucking roman oxcarts plaguing the highways, and i'd better fucking not see any more of these hipster doofuses either.
mircea_popescu: fuck that dumb shit, i don't care some slick scammer sold them on the idea it's a conveyance. it's not more of a conveyance than any fucking kitchen robot, that also sorta-kinda moves around on the countertop.
mircea_popescu: so if one day i decide to play golf in the fucking road, that's it, everyone's stuck accomodating my 10mph electric golf cart (in the best of cases, but more generally my 1.2 mph half blind 165yo caddy) ?
mircea_popescu: who could have ever guessed this economy of the future wasn't going to be all that.
ben_vulpes: kids disposing of retired servers from the office, really
ben_vulpes: also walking the list of craigslist server vendors emailing any that look halfway competent to see if they have what i need
ben_vulpes: that is one of the things i'm going to try, yeah
ben_vulpes: this is the ass end of nowhere, populated entirely by apple fanbois
mircea_popescu: pantsuit implementations, be they software or dubiola are all kinda akin from this perspective. akin to nothing at all, that is.
ben_vulpes: 'tis at least a usable machine, if sw raid is so abhorrent; thought the option was worth offering. doesn't sound like you have any interest though.
ben_vulpes: well there are 4 ssds in the machine, i can install an os to one of them and let you mount the other three however you'd like
mircea_popescu: install directly to the what now ?
ben_vulpes: i can also abort this provisioning run and install directly to the ssd if you'd prefer
ben_vulpes: diana_coman, mircea_popescu: i apologize for the hysteresis in server specs, but i failed to procure the cable i need for the high-throughput raid card in time to board tomorrow. i'm provisioning the machine reserved for your use with a software raid10 for installation this week, but you have the option to wait an uncertain amount of time for me to get the cable down to the dc and reprovision it with a much
ben_vulpes: yes but then no
mircea_popescu: lobbes that's not even the cannonical item ; hanbot is working on a no-binary genesis for it on phf's new version vdiff.
lobbes: m going to be a proper Lord of the Republic, I need to be able to wield the most fundamental of Republican tools
lobbes: in lobbes' hopper updates: I think I will need to refocus on first wrapping my head around V before moving too much further with my download-archive-zips-o-tron. This is due to the newly illuminated (to me) causes of: 1) in order to solve the duplicate problem (which needs solving before I can ethically charge for files), I will -eventually- need to leverage Republican authored solutions (e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-24#1785983). 2) if I'
ben_vulpes: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a34n54/modern-monetary-theory-explained << everything must be free
mircea_popescu: ~THEY~ r fighting back! and winning! so sez hackernews profile in feb 2016 ; hasn't really been heard from in a coupla years. for so much wins.
mircea_popescu: "Virtue signaling persists only because too few of us are willing to speak out against it. The good news is that I've noticed an increasing amount of opposition to political correctness culture in the FOSS world. We're fighting back, and we're winning, albeit slowly."
mircea_popescu: in other random lulz, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9562597 turns into https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11417018 ; from may to april. and yet the pantsuit within the enraged STILL credits pantsuit "academia" with the transformation.
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation presents The State of Bitcoin Address for February: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-March/000292.html
cruciform: I am ready to pay tribute to the republic - please advise as to the address to remit payment
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-01#1786683 << relatedly, asciilifeform courteously expressed a raid card along with the fuckgoatsen, with which that machines ssds will really shine, raid5 is back on the table if you would like it, please let me know by 8pm sunday utc if you'd like it in r5 instead of the previously communicated r10
ben_vulpes: checklists, agendas, ensuring dominoes are lined up for the flicking upon touchdown
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/03/03/privacy-and-other-re-readings/ << Bingo Blog - Privacy And Other Re-Readings
BingoBoingo returns to baking post on other blog
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Yeah, the Qntra box and switch both fit in 1U by power draw, and when your hands are here so and not to drop anything, physically to according to TomServo's suggestion
ben_vulpes: that box is hosting both qntra and pizarro's web presence, and then on top of that it's splitting a 1u with another piece of hardware (right BingoBoingo ?), so something hilarious like .003 btc this month? i was planning to host it as a service to the republic tbh, especially since the machine it's on is running pizarro's website as well
BingoBoingo: Fuck, I will get the numbers right. Was banged out immediately after getting Qntra box plugin ready.
BingoBoingo: Also very healthy and handy. After diving into the newsmines having something to wipe the brain clean with is very convenient.
mircea_popescu: the qntra-trilema publishing sincronicity is becoming lulzy.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-03 07:58 diana_coman: mod6, thank you for the detailed write-up on the vpatch issue; I'm not sure it makes sense or even helps to name as "chapters" fixes so people don't miss them in the future since this happened with the mpi_fix before just the same
phf: ty, also http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-03#1786835 is a solid scheme, and i wouldn't want to see it go, i'll just be more attentive in the future
diana_coman: that's why it failed on anything that wasn't either 8*n or 8*n + 1
diana_coman: phf, any bitrate above 1600 will correctly fail there since bitrate cannot be more than the total length of state (and that's 1600 unless you change the knobs); this being said, there IS an error too and it's one of those that show I need to sleep more: I got ToPos and FromPos flipped around and failed to notice it ...; so big thank you for testing this! correction, patch & post coming later today
diana_coman: mod6, thank you for the detailed write-up on the vpatch issue; I'm not sure it makes sense or even helps to name as "chapters" fixes so people don't miss them in the future since this happened with the mpi_fix before just the same
diana_coman: I'll have a look at the bitstream /rate issue too, thank you; I'll get back later today on it
diana_coman: phf, the oaep_fix_checks seems to be missing and that's possibly also creating trouble otherwise since you're running the code without the fix
phf: diana_coman: when i run this code http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/cW0FU/ i get the output http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ZDEOs/?raw=true
asciilifeform sees BingoBoingo's photo, and nearly asks 'where didja get the SGI Indigo' and then realizes 'suitcase'
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/03/02/notes-from-observing-a-latino-junkie-on-vacation/ << Bingo Blog - Notes From Observing A Latino Junkie On Vacation
mircea_popescu: then again there's that scene with teeny bopper chicks at the north sea, on the "beach", wind so cutting i was glad for my greatcoat. im sure it's in the logs somewhere but beyond 5 minute's search.
BingoBoingo: Brasileros break out the heavy coats when night temperatures fall below 20C, the Uruguayos tend to use lighter jackets and give it a few more degrees 16-18C is when their low temperature reactions get triggered.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It is a fine degree less innocence than say... the Brasileros
mircea_popescu: then again locals' notions of what constitutes coldness show a clear innocence of the arctic.
BingoBoingo: Otherwise I am told it gradually gets colder, windier, and wetter. Like a Latino London barely lucky enough to avoid snow.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Prime as in the country expects guests coming for the beaches, and there being the tourism infastructure turned on in case you want to do some sightseeing.
mircea_popescu: it's about the same, 1200ish +- 100 via panama if bought 2-3 weeks in advance
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: prime as in cheapest, or some other consideration
BingoBoingo: The prime window to take trips is before the end of this month when summer ends and the tourism allegedly disappears.
mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform, how are we getting the nsa boxen over to uruguay ? you feel like taking a trip ?
mircea_popescu: (in this discussion, the $ stands for the dollar, which however denotes the taler, a weight of gold (or perhaps sivler ? highly contentious matter at the time, this), not fictitious lincolnite bs.)
mircea_popescu: literally, you're buying from the bank the putting of the bank in the position of having eaten in your restaurant.
mircea_popescu: JUST SO, the bank ~sold~ people bills to itself. if you pay the bank $5, you get in exchange... a bill for $5, that you can give to the bank, as if the bank had sat in your restaurant and ate $5 worth.
mircea_popescu: much like the reason dollar bills are called BILLS is because banks came up with the bright idea of selling... bills to themselves. you know how if you go to the restaurant and eat there, they bring you a bill, which you oblige yourself to pay ?
mircea_popescu: and since we're doing history lesson : the reason the option is called "CALL" is because of its functional equivalence to the... calling of capital for subscribed shares. basically what you're selling there is the... right for someone to... CALL the cash equity as if the share had just been subscribed. you "resubscribe" it so to speak, it's a fictitious revirgination of the holy mother.
mircea_popescu: it's also a confusion of layers to name employees in the charter. what happens if you decide to hire ben_vulpes' son to manage it eventually, recharter ?
mircea_popescu: this aside -- you certainly can also have the foundation simply hold a convertible debt ; but bear in mind that it can't possibly hold a seat on the board until such a time as it converts that bond and gets shares.
mircea_popescu: so something like "pizarro incorporated, issued 1`100`000 shares with a par value of 100 satoshi each, subscribed by mod6 (500`000) ; asciilifeform (500`000) and TBF (100`000)" would be more in the regular form of these things.
mircea_popescu: and from thence to this day, shares are subscribed, then their capital is called up and paid.
mircea_popescu: then as the preliminaries were done and the thing was starting to move capital was "called up", ie, joe you underwrote 10`000 shares, now's the time to pay up so and so moneys.
mircea_popescu: pices in the ferrara market"). this then was called the "authorized capital". 3. the item was then circulated (among the savy, the l2 of the time) and all those interested in participation wrote their name at the bottom of the paper (subscribed, or underwrote. the term is still used in insurance, very much in this sense).
mircea_popescu: mod6 the usual terminology re shares is "subscribed". the reason has to do with history. the way business has worked (mostly in italy, which is where it was invented, five centuries ago) was that 1. some people got together united by their recognition of a solution to some problem ; 2. that then evaluated the costs of implementing such solution (often the case -- the cost was to outfit a ship and the problem was "there's no s
mircea_popescu: mod6 where's the charter itself ?
mod6: ah, yeah, it's slightly more grey than the others. stars here: jurov: ben_vulpes: and the foundation loan == Stock Warrant #1 in pizarro's report?
mircea_popescu: but since we're on this, i suspect the lack of readout bot is the principal bar to bvulpes log adoption ; not that i expect you gas at this juncture
mod6: mircea_popescu: Can I get your opinion on this quick regarding the Charter for Pizarro?
mircea_popescu: and in breakfast suggestions : slice homemade bread, spread aguacate on it, flake smoked trout atop the aguacate, cut sweet red onion on top of the trout, serve with a mug of leche agria on your balcony of splendid views.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-problem-with-christians/ << Trilema - The problem with christians
mircea_popescu: i might propose to you that perhaps the more pressing problem isn't how you store your coin but how you populate your thinking table ; but i suspect you are already well aware.
Guest45857: thanks for the article. I'll do my due diligence swapping storage solution asap
mircea_popescu: shouldn't you have been already aware of this ? if the "trezor" wasn't patent medicine, that is ?
mircea_popescu: ask yourself : why do you learn of say http://qntra.net/2017/08/trezor-others-affected-by-fault-injection-may-leak-keys/ from me ?
mircea_popescu: there is not at present anything significantly better ; and it is crap. not a matter of it "being considered", it is sheer crap, provedly so, on its own factual record of usage that it won't face or consider, let alone theoretical consideration by people who (unlike the rank imbeciles involved in its production) actually understand the world.
Guest45857: so i assume is considered crap. Asking this cause i've one and i was thinking to be on the safe side. Should i discard every hardware wallet or is there something significantly better than trezor?
mircea_popescu: yes well, let's not confuse the inept products of idiots with the broader categories. trezor is a specific piece of shit, not something as lofty as "a hardware wallet".
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/03/attacks-in-ouagadougou-hit-french-embassy-and-other-sites/ << Qntra - Attacks In Ouagadougou Hit French Embassy And Other Sites
asciilifeform: i'ma definitely think. but presently asciilifeform must go and tea and then backtowurk. so bbl.
mircea_popescu: as a dry-run for the eventual iron production.
mircea_popescu: the whole idea of 0-footprint is to have something you can unroll into iron.
mircea_popescu: so basically ima have to make a new nsa to make the item in question ?
mircea_popescu: (re the above fg, it ain't for sale ; we'll eventually make a new batch, but it isn't a high priority yet.)
asciilifeform: there is no magic in this world.
asciilifeform: lol i also signed the original. but it is still kochware.
asciilifeform: while i have a few min on the clock : attn folx : there are 7 unsold FG units in my inventory; of which 6 are currently installed in snsa boxen waiting for their day in the rack; this leaves 1 'bachelor' FG. if someone wishes to buy this one, talk to mircea_popescu for where to pay.
asciilifeform: it so happens that i've designed exactly such a device. but it will be filled with ffaware, not koch. and all things in their proper time.
asciilifeform: oh it's in the log isnnit.
asciilifeform: let's posit that asciilifeform were willing to put his signature ever again on kochware. ( he ain't. ) how would the key get on the device ? ( i.e. is this exactly the orig cardano ? )
BingoBoingo: That is the kicker.
mircea_popescu: should self-populate with a key by contact with a fg, and should be able to readily destroy the key.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform obviously the question becomes : should ave1 complete the 0-footprint eucrypt wrapper, can the next nsa product be a push-button decryptor -- specificaly a usb-like stick with a button, which produces a decrypted.filename for every filename found on stick at button push ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: appreciate the continued scrutiny, will respond tomorrow
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the saga continues (and also, you have what looks like a stranded > right after the "leave your comment" heading)
trinque: nobody could have predicted scrolling and searching in weechat at the same time.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: There is plenty of source material to cite. Care to write up for Qntra a summary of February's events in the Republic?
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/heres-how-pantsuitism-christianity-ruined-civilisation-in-both-the-ancient-and-the-modern-world/ << Trilema - Here's how pantsuitism / christianity ruined civilisation, in both the Ancient and the Modern world.
jhvh1: ben_vulpes: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-01 20:01 phf: diana_coman: i was also getting some boundary issues with different bitrate issues, i couldn't figure out if it can take any natural value, or there's some specifica subranges that i have to stick to. when i spot checked with values like 1200 (or whatever), it would fail deep inside absorbblock. i'll test it again not that i have a bit of free time and see if i can reproduce
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-01#1786657 << sounds like all the makings of a beautiful race condition.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-01 18:01 ben_vulpes: having worked to memorize the bot keycombos for some time now, i would particularly like it if they would respond to their names. this approach autocompletes for one and is far more easily visually diffed, for another.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-01 17:59 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu diana_coman: my mistake, the box is not raid5 compatible, it can do raid1 and raid10. is this okay and do you have a preference between the two?
shinohai: the bickening !!!
mircea_popescu: a lol, the very next line. ok!
a111: Logged on 2018-03-01 17:56 ben_vulpes: shinohai: is this an "it works now" or "you did it wrong" sort of thing. fwiw i expect the former in the form of "it was broken because of X, i did Y to fix it, and Z to prevent it from happening again" not that you're my direct report or anything
spyked: buildroot env that pins down all these moving parts...
a111: Logged on 2018-03-01 18:41 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-01#1786600 << which os/compiler is that? i suspect that i'll have to put all the annotations into system.h defines and let specific systems pass whatever in a makefile.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-01#1786626 <-- I ran it on Debian/Adacore 2016 -- system ld is version 2.29.1, and I expect Adacore uses that instead of its own, otherwise I can't explain the behaviour. I'll also give it a try on a Gentoo with same adacore. static inline should be safe from the pov of linkage, but yeah, there's a more general problem there that might benefit from a config.h/system.h or something similar. that or a
phf: kk, i'm using the octet one by the way. i should try and drop in the bit level one into the current codebase just to see how that works
diana_coman: fwiw the bit-level one is meant for any bit numbers stuff; the word-level was in principle set for octet-multiples