ben_vulpes: bill /for the state/
ben_vulpes: one could rack up quite a bill just splicing cell jammers into mobile power busses, eg cars
ben_vulpes: comms net while attractive is complex
ben_vulpes: fictional saboteur story
ben_vulpes: ftl egalitarianism!
ben_vulpes: wake me up when they work over shortwave
ben_vulpes: while we're surveying and lest anyone call us princeton, there is also http://matrix.org/
ben_vulpes: 'a hero' can an hero
ben_vulpes: no i snipped dat cord
ben_vulpes: there is also 'discord'
ben_vulpes: could possibly expose some tiny fraction of user base' actual literacy skills
ben_vulpes: 500 characters per post!
ben_vulpes: *jazz hands*
ben_vulpes: https://staltz.com/an-off-grid-social-network.html and https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/ , if anyone's interested in piles of chairs anymore
ben_vulpes: no...backups?
ben_vulpes: what brings ye by
ben_vulpes: ohey fromloper
ben_vulpes: fromloper likely not even looking at browser tab anymore
ben_vulpes: > 22:51:27 ben_vulpes ups fromloper to great crickets
ben_vulpes: > 22:39:07, fromloper joins
ben_vulpes: may have missed the window of opportunity/interest there...
ben_vulpes: fromloper: interested in factoring rsa keys?
ben_vulpes: !!up fromloper
ben_vulpes: for my subros: http://68.media.tumblr.com/19b8e0d81c0a3baa31395cdf09f11326/tumblr_oh8zmoG4nG1r9640po1_1280.jpg
ben_vulpes: utterly unrelated: https://68.media.tumblr.com/51e9183a4ac0ca21bb22fb702e5b6bc9/tumblr_oo0ak4Cl321w7wz67o1_400.gif
ben_vulpes: not an erudite enough critique
ben_vulpes: someone got butthurt no doubt
ben_vulpes: whatever, thanks urban pricktionary
ben_vulpes: how are sarin death videos not in that list
ben_vulpes: what lemon party is jading now?
ben_vulpes: trinque: w-what?! i just want to make life better for historically disadvantaged groups!
ben_vulpes: also everything must be free
ben_vulpes: i think it's awesome
ben_vulpes: ubi is a statal self-crit
ben_vulpes: "you know i really like this ubi idea; imagine the cambrian explosion of art and culture that would happen if people didn't have to work to eat, right? well imagine if *everything* were free, not just food internet and housing. it's not like we need tax receipts to pay for it, just increase the national debt a little! i doubt it would even come close to the cost of an f35 to make everything free."
ben_vulpes: CompanionCube: just try it some day
ben_vulpes: everything must be a pale simalacrum of something that existed as a real item at some point
ben_vulpes: everything must be free
ben_vulpes: next to ubi menstrual leave is clear in the middle of the overton window.
ben_vulpes: "but then from a justice perspective it's just inherently gender inequitable, so i don't know! i just don't know."
ben_vulpes: trinque: "TO THE BACK OF THE CARAVAN WITH YE"
ben_vulpes: "so i'm all for maternity and paternity leave, i have kids, it's just fantastic. and i've been thinking about other things that people should get state-sponsored leave for, and like aren't some women struck by totally debilitating menses? they should totally have time off for that."
ben_vulpes: feign total socialistoid embeddment
ben_vulpes: shinohai: ask them what they think about menstrual leave
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: well hey the singer i went to see wasn't in stripper mode during the choral performance
ben_vulpes: i think that i may have been one of like 3 straight doods in the room; high lez factor
ben_vulpes could not refrain from grabbing the pussy with which he arrived
ben_vulpes: relevantly shinohai i was out at this performance of baroque french choral set, chamber music scale, and in between songs (which were very well done), there was much woke angsting about el pussy grabber in chief
ben_vulpes: siempre, shinohai
ben_vulpes: buenos diiiiaaaaas
ben_vulpes: i might not have cared enough to register it
ben_vulpes: "obummer gas"?
ben_vulpes: nerve gas attack in syria
ben_vulpes: coulda taken the rig in question by law, but kindly agreed to a 10MM fine.
ben_vulpes: tahp kek.
ben_vulpes: gulf of mexico and alaska.
ben_vulpes: points in question?
ben_vulpes: cannot use foreign flagged vessels to transport goods between points in the us
ben_vulpes: in other epic fucking lulz, us customs and border handed down a 10MM penalty for violating the Jones Act
ben_vulpes: 20 TON PRESS
ben_vulpes: what is scope of 'modify' in this context; can stick in openly hostile machine?
ben_vulpes: perhaps will not spin after
ben_vulpes: oh i'm sure i can modify a pressed aluminum disk
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: look at how mod6 did the turds
ben_vulpes: a la lulu?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: can one even get discs 'pressed' anymore?
ben_vulpes: dia de si
ben_vulpes: lol are you one of those numismatic folks?
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: deed dems
ben_vulpes: oh hey did i successfully turn amber alerts off?
ben_vulpes: outrageous
ben_vulpes: i have nfi what is in fashion
ben_vulpes: "if you were a REAL human"
ben_vulpes: no, the thing that plays sesame street so that you can play candy crush instead of parenting
ben_vulpes: "public broadcasting service"
ben_vulpes: > die in a fire with everything you love
ben_vulpes: > parent with television, it makes your life easier
ben_vulpes: > save pbs, it makes us safer
ben_vulpes: i dunno how ecdsa break is not bullet for btc
ben_vulpes: as soon as one attempts to spend from one of those hashed addresses you're in a race with everyone to get the txn confirmed though
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-05#1637554 << why is pubkey being known so bad?
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: "of under the"
ben_vulpes: there is that, doesn't change that sim is unpublished part of system on basis of which claims are being made
ben_vulpes: "138kloc of cpp written by grad students? that i can't have? that only runs on golden toilet supercomputer? mmmok"
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-05#1637836 << it's basically the only criteria, it's why thinking people throw out the climate simulacra
ben_vulpes: but ben_vulpes steals time from mary to pay peter or how did it go, must away again
ben_vulpes: plus outputs, plus signing
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-04#1636874 << directly relevant. afaict, producing a transaction with trb code boils down to making a 'ctransaction' with 'vin's shaped per the constructor http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.h?v=wires_rev1#0261
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: point me to a 'somewhere', if you'd be so kind
ben_vulpes: oop meat bbl
ben_vulpes: eg produce some data a user can use on an entirely separate box to make and sign txns for rebroadcast however
ben_vulpes: "wallets"
ben_vulpes: davout, trinque, mod6, mircea_popescu, danielpbarron, diana_coman, phf, jurov ^^
ben_vulpes: hey how about this for a "txouts for later use in baking transactions" serialization format: textfile <tx_hash>, with contents <value block_height output_index>
ben_vulpes: kindergarten ouch
ben_vulpes: and in other occlusions and hexagons: http://68.media.tumblr.com/ae93737a2c74237e5f555d7a055c90eb/tumblr_onwagxz5dQ1s2jikwo1_1280.jpg
ben_vulpes: more of a debt instrument
ben_vulpes: the bids and asks are all right there in the order book
ben_vulpes: more sass, duh
ben_vulpes: stern glares, and a mark under her name on the whiteboard
ben_vulpes: to which the smarter of the girls in circulation sasses back with "well what makes /you/ so worth obeying?"
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-04#1637461 << funny you should say that, the line around here of late has been "OBEDIENCE IS THE ONLY CRITERIA"
ben_vulpes: first intentional loss of traction
ben_vulpes: in other ICE news, i got the drift slut sideways a few nights ago!
ben_vulpes: i never really figured out how one was supposed to shift while turning with paddles
ben_vulpes: that's it i'm out
ben_vulpes: and for shinohai: http://68.media.tumblr.com/3c6ea2a713e6524fdbaad1cb6ab932fc/tumblr_onl3yiQs6u1tk43c6o1_1280.jpg
ben_vulpes: "dat brat": http://68.media.tumblr.com/f44850d8bf7c57953f8e691de289ae26/tumblr_onl3y0ts3f1tk43c6o1_500.jpg
ben_vulpes: "professionals at work": http://68.media.tumblr.com/8163489294f27fca80a9c7280119d48e/tumblr_onl3y8Pgkg1tk43c6o1_1280.jpg
ben_vulpes: "too much ego in post": http://68.media.tumblr.com/5d355017cf06f5716d7253345d0f50da/tumblr_onl3z3MtUv1tlqnkvo1_500.jpg
ben_vulpes: "hood fun": http://68.media.tumblr.com/52aa220519517830eec96a10ffd1f1e0/tumblr_onugg85C1Z1urwuzno1_1280.jpg
ben_vulpes: perhaps someone else can identify that car
ben_vulpes: in "nothing actually has to be out for it to be insanely hot, honey"
ben_vulpes: http://68.media.tumblr.com/f1e71c86d20bf8935ec32085b935c7f5/tumblr_onwpv2xCpj1w7wz67o1_500.jpg
ben_vulpes: oh goddamn it this last one is buried in a megatonne of html horseshit
ben_vulpes: toyota mustang
ben_vulpes: yes
ben_vulpes: mustang i think
ben_vulpes: "you don't need to have a good car to get tits all over it": http://68.media.tumblr.com/87c0ba72bd3f67142514e6d883499330/tumblr_onvrzukhQt1tpchrmo1_1280.jpg
ben_vulpes: well the joke is that there are tits on display and i'm looking at the vin
ben_vulpes: serial for cars
ben_vulpes: "vehicle identification number"
ben_vulpes: shoot, gave away the game
ben_vulpes: in over-fucking-polished-and-is-that-a-vin-i-see's: http://its-about-the-car.tumblr.com/image/159185818055
ben_vulpes: well if we're doing themes, i have my own set queued up
ben_vulpes: hyu
ben_vulpes: haw
ben_vulpes: yeah i have nfi in re proper prostitutes
ben_vulpes: holy mammaries buttman
ben_vulpes: i register no objections
ben_vulpes: whore, not slave!
ben_vulpes: there is also some tiny arbitrage opportunity available i must point out; lock up the contract and then sell her off into improper slavery
ben_vulpes: sez right there she'd be down
ben_vulpes: shinohai could pimp her out
ben_vulpes: shinohai: the interesting thing from my pov is that he had a stable connection forever
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: you plan to fix your connection anytime soon?
ben_vulpes: shinohai: stock photo or real gurl?
ben_vulpes: pushing a particularly stubborn turd out
ben_vulpes: ahaha
ben_vulpes: fuck, buddy, i didn't think it could get worse!
ben_vulpes: > "The Rust Evangelism Strikeforce speculates on when they can move on to shitting up web development"
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: solid chuckles
ben_vulpes: just stay the fuck out of bull run valley
ben_vulpes: there are plenty of places to slime hood
ben_vulpes: "fixing" things.
ben_vulpes: mostly ch2mhill
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: no?
ben_vulpes: shinohai: if they don't have a rep in here, it's vaporware by default
ben_vulpes: "bull run" is ferociously protected valley on mt. hood; combination of glacier runoff and rainfall on valley in q
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: surface sources ftw
ben_vulpes: i do miss one thing about my hometown; bull run reservoir produces un-fucking-matched agua
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: betcha it's better than the well water south of portland
ben_vulpes: oh whoa that plant tunnel is awesome
ben_vulpes: blither blather hoob hoob gaDORNK
ben_vulpes: oh fuck, "it may be an ideal fit for fundamentally different block designs such as Rootstock and MimbleWimble in absence of decentralised non-integrated sidechains"
ben_vulpes: neato
ben_vulpes: "yes honey, beautiful beautiful death, all over the carport"
ben_vulpes: ah, no, point is that she's on top of things.
ben_vulpes: both of 'em
ben_vulpes: so i read a bit about datura, "moonflower, that sounds familiar...hey baby aren't you doing something with moonflower in the backyard this year?" "yeah! it's going to be beautiful" "..." "is this about how daturas are poisonous?" "..." "it's going in on the carport where dog and child can't get to it"
ben_vulpes: heh
ben_vulpes: certainty is for sessile polyps
ben_vulpes: !$ ssh 77.108.80.67 77.108.80.67
ben_vulpes: !? ssh 77.108.80.67 77.108.80.67
ben_vulpes: $? ssh 77.108.80.67 77.108.80.67
ben_vulpes: well yes i'm familiar with how the bits are laid down, but i am less familiar with how trb handles it internally
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: q more along the lines of "what is least necessary to write to disk in order to be useful later"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: walking the blockchain in search of payments to a pubkey or pubkey hash, and indexing those in some manner (accounting for spends) such that they can be reconstituted into a transaction later
ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.h?v=wires_rev1#0261 << kinda looks like all one needs to bake CTxIn's is the hash of the transaction and output index, can someone spot check this for me?
ben_vulpes: "hey babe, want to be my second wife?"
ben_vulpes: fucking hate april fool's day
ben_vulpes: so damn believeable though
ben_vulpes: shaking the rss reader *out unread
ben_vulpes: this is what i get for not shaking the rss reader unread on the second
ben_vulpes: aw fuck
ben_vulpes: in other pki nyooz: http://gcaptain.com/us-announces-selective-availability-gps-devices/
ben_vulpes: sounds like $pet had an eye on the depletion meter
ben_vulpes: doesn't sound like much of a surprise
ben_vulpes: make stirling engine of moon beams
ben_vulpes: yeah, what business has steel in car anyways
ben_vulpes: throw the nic out, we're going to shortwave anyways
ben_vulpes: myeah, still took the americhanskis a few decades to figure it out, and most haven't yet.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: sterling: "i'm astonished that i will probably outlive the 'personal computer'. what would anyone want one of those for these days anyways. 'hey you, do you want a personal computer? you can...compute on it! in private! nobody would ever know!' it just doesn't sell to the touchscreen zombies, no offense to present company."
ben_vulpes: hose yr key?
ben_vulpes: !!up derpshart
ben_vulpes: everyone straight to the cinderblock palace
ben_vulpes: ubi can't happen soon enough
ben_vulpes: phf: bin and not src?
ben_vulpes: what was that...not even "sourcerer"?
ben_vulpes: nobody in the history of linux distros vendored
ben_vulpes: so nobody vendored?
ben_vulpes: D:
ben_vulpes: fwiw the trees are intact.
ben_vulpes: you asked if i ever
ben_vulpes: !#s target mode
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: pete_dushenski was bitching about a box not eating cdrom recently
ben_vulpes pants at the notion
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: chile, turns out
ben_vulpes: that's right
ben_vulpes: aaah
ben_vulpes: you are a marvel
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: control room for brazilian planned economy iirc
ben_vulpes: shinohai: what, still not fixed?
ben_vulpes: trinque: some day, buddy. some day.
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: well is it in the logs or not?
ben_vulpes: in which nerds continue to assume that basic problems of coordination and capital allocation can be solved with technology, specifically ethereum: https://blog.ethlance.com/ethlance-introducing-job-sponsorships-84a7f7ca07d3
ben_vulpes: ah cute, `find-tags' is deprecated but its replacement `xref-find-definitions' ~doesn't work with c/++ projects
ben_vulpes: mhm
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: not by my read
ben_vulpes: the scheme/c seam is as real as the emacs/linux seam
ben_vulpes: well i'd like to
ben_vulpes: nobody's playing with the tests either!
ben_vulpes: shiva might be a better tool for wiggling random code paths anyways
ben_vulpes: reasonabru opinion
ben_vulpes: yeah i know
ben_vulpes: currently attempting to reason about differences between targets bitcoind and test_bitcoin
ben_vulpes: complains about inabilty to find openssl/ec.h
ben_vulpes: yeah
ben_vulpes: anyways, hey asciilifeform have you ever built the trb test target?
ben_vulpes: i wonder if there's some proportional relationship between setup/distribution costs and size of target niches
ben_vulpes: aye aye
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: gotta printer to recommend?
ben_vulpes: "export/import compatibility" hue
ben_vulpes: all you need for "wallet interoperability" is to make transaction scripts with OP_PUBKEY or OP_PUBKEYHASH followed by...a pubkey, or the hash thereof.
ben_vulpes: shinohai: "bitcoin wallet interoperability"
ben_vulpes: "hold still, i gotta apply this hot thing to ya"
ben_vulpes: anyways, tick spotting and removal is pretty standard
ben_vulpes: ixodes pacificus may someday be a carrier for babiosis
ben_vulpes: trinque: mircea_popescu mentioned a tick-borne thing, i pointed out that it's not prevalent anywhere near me
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: northeast and upper midwest
ben_vulpes: the whimsy dun matter terrifically
ben_vulpes: just wait for lady of the coven
ben_vulpes: mhm
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-01#1635420 << "of the well" more pleasingly esoteric imho
ben_vulpes: graham now funding...forums: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14006159
ben_vulpes is amaze at the contrast
ben_vulpes: highly relevant: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-06#784482
ben_vulpes: and maybe even read it all holy crap
ben_vulpes: no pressure, but that's wild how your mom archived everything manually
ben_vulpes: nuts, mod6
ben_vulpes: !#s cpio
ben_vulpes: gas fairy?
ben_vulpes: scam
ben_vulpes: i thought this was how warren buffet got rich
ben_vulpes regards the fireproof lockbox of stamps sadly
ben_vulpes: it's not actually a hedge
ben_vulpes: it's a postage stamp asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: veen's over there ranting about how "fuck buddy and here i thought forever stamps a decent hedge against inflation but NO the FUCKING GOVERNMENT can just MAKE YOU BURN THEM"