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(trilema) mike_c: ^ bitcoinpete drives down neo stock
(trilema) mike_c: that's what comments are for anyway, to debate the post. TaT got his word in.
(trilema) mike_c: don't back down!
(trilema) mike_c: luckily i control the database :)
(trilema) mike_c: we need eulora to run easier to boost ATC prices!
(trilema) mike_c: i tried a couple different versions of ati drivers but can't stop segfaulting either.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, that is the hope
(trilema) mike_c: k. they will be credited to trilema.
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: you mind if we crib your screenshots to start a screenshot page on eulorum?
(trilema) mike_c: depends what you want. if all you want is for them to send a letter, it's cheap.
(trilema) mike_c: how many suits does it take to cut the entrance rope?
(trilema) mike_c: hm. ok, i'll check it out
(trilema) mike_c: ;;calc .00006 / .000575
(trilema) mike_c: ;;calc (6000 /4) / 100000000
(trilema) mike_c: their prospectus says they are going to make 6,000 btc in 2014. so quarterly dividend would be..
(trilema) mike_c: there are 100m units of hif
(trilema) mike_c: maybe that's why rally
(trilema) mike_c: hm, supposedly there will be quarterly dividends
(trilema) mike_c: no dividends and no financial reports. what exactly are you investing in?
(trilema) mike_c: ThickAsThieves: market cap deja vu..
(trilema) mike_c: what about the lazy americans?
(trilema) mike_c: "I am most concerned that as Bitcoin is inevitably banned in other countries, Americans will be left holding the bag on a valueless currency"
(trilema) mike_c: the gox failure has clearly been depressing ATC prices..
(trilema) mike_c: how many companies on mpex have scammed people?
(trilema) mike_c: there's already a btc hedge on mpex in x.eur. i'm not sure how much appetite you'll find for a bond that will decrease in NAV and interest rate as btc rises.
(trilema) mike_c: but you'd have to pay interest in btc..
(trilema) mike_c: % as rent climbs as population density rises
(trilema) mike_c: % as rent has more to do with density, no?
(trilema) mike_c: only sort of. fully dilute market cap doesn't change
(trilema) mike_c: monthly statement
(trilema) mike_c: it accomodates warrants being issued
(trilema) mike_c: btcalpha manages :)
(trilema) mike_c: shares is fixed. warrants are somewhat dynamic.
(trilema) mike_c: and about the same # of warrants
(trilema) mike_c: ^ that many shares
(trilema) mike_c: ;;calc 12157 / .000138
(trilema) mike_c: looking at slides like coindesk's makes me mad for some reason. those stupid charts with "here's why btc went up" and "here's why it went down". they should post that on bitcointalk and be done with it.
(trilema) mike_c: and maybe even buy those little plastice outlet covers to make sure they survive :)
(trilema) mike_c: although i guess they could have coinbr accounts
(trilema) mike_c: shoeshine boys won't have mpex accounts anytime soon.
(trilema) mike_c: um, hopefully
(trilema) mike_c: BingoBoingo: check out that september. what a swing!
(trilema) mike_c: hm. i will pass it along. a friend of mine was looking. thanks.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;rate MagicalTux -2 ran a fractional reserve exchange
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, he only has 3 negative ratings.
(trilema) mike_c: "if we don't trust him, who can we trust? ;)" hehehe
(trilema) mike_c: regulation is always effective at keeping unsuspecting "consumers" safe in financial markets.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;later tell nubbins` ping me for eulorum nameservers
(trilema) mike_c: 2 errors! of course, the last two are always the worst.
(trilema) mike_c: !t h rent
(trilema) mike_c: knock on wood quick
(trilema) mike_c: shockingly no.
(trilema) mike_c: love those days. bitcoincharts down yet?
(trilema) mike_c: :) hopefully i can run it on an actual machine and get better performance
(trilema) mike_c: i picked up some rotten fruit.
(trilema) mike_c: i just got it running on a VM. it wasn't 100% healthy, but it ran.
(trilema) mike_c: sure. i'll set it up tomorrow and send you info.
(trilema) mike_c: i mean, if it's wordpress we can just let them host. but i can throw up a wiki if that's the decision.
(trilema) mike_c: i'd be fine with putting something up
(trilema) mike_c: virginia. it's good stuff, very close to nsa for easy monitoring.
(trilema) mike_c: i prefer wiki-style, but you're the one with the hot domain name
(trilema) mike_c: you think blog style is better than community edit?
(trilema) mike_c: i like it. so we have a domain name. what about software? any suggestions better than wikimedia?
(trilema) mike_c: saucy domain name? what is it?
(trilema) mike_c: btcalpha isn't exactly crumbling under the traffic load :)
(trilema) mike_c: i'd be willing to host one if there's interest.
(trilema) mike_c: lemme look
(trilema) mike_c: so is wikimedia. just could be good to let anyone edit it
(trilema) mike_c: maybe wiki?
(trilema) mike_c: good idea
(trilema) mike_c: bleeding edge
(trilema) mike_c: nubbins`: yes.
(trilema) mike_c: has anyone actually got it running?
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, that's where i'm at.
(trilema) mike_c: and got a seg fault even earlier than before
(trilema) mike_c: installed drivers, ran it.
(trilema) mike_c: so i reinstalled, switching from ubuntu 13 to 12.04
(trilema) mike_c: pretty bad luck. chetty suggested graphics drivers. so i updated my drivers and it hosed the box.
(trilema) mike_c: did i just make up a word? what i meant is it is fast?
(trilema) mike_c: wow. that sounds cool. is it performant?
(trilema) mike_c: fract4l can i sell you my bitcoin? i'll send first.
(trilema) mike_c: wait.. are you saying gox is insolvent??
(trilema) mike_c: it basically means i can't give up the odds the weight is laying. the weight being the decreasing odds that bitbets offer as the bet goes on
(trilema) mike_c: should be fun to watch though.
(trilema) mike_c: i don't have a strong enough opinion to fade the weight.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah. but still can't get decent odds on it anymore.
(trilema) mike_c: this bet should have been weightless
(trilema) mike_c: he basically broke even (instead of losing his shirt), so they are way below EV
(trilema) mike_c: the big bump (and reason they aren't close to EV) was nakowa dumping 1mil in action in september i believe
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, they started tracking mid october
(trilema) mike_c: ^ click 'wagered'
(trilema) mike_c: kakobrekla: volume hit 5m 10 days agao. the line is pretty steady.
(trilema) mike_c: meh, only if the current product is the last product. don't go dying yet ascii.
(trilema) mike_c: the autonomy deal? accounting fraud that was only found after acquistion
(trilema) mike_c: i was reading about HP acquisition of autonomy the other day. numbers were something like "acquired for $11b. HP wrote off $8B"
(trilema) mike_c: average street angels are not profitable
(trilema) mike_c: more complicated on variable payouts, but the formulas are not complicated.
(trilema) mike_c: kelly criterion is simple on a 1:1 payout - you bet your edge. that is if you have a 60% chance of winning on a 1:1 payout you bet 20% of your bankroll.
(trilema) mike_c: EV = expected value
(trilema) mike_c: ;;google dorm progesterone
(trilema) mike_c: ;;goodle dorm progesterone
(trilema) mike_c: can't be as bad as a mac that sends the contents of your hard drive to the cloud for you.
(trilema) mike_c: there is supposed to be a command with jam that will generate a VC workspace, but it didn't work.
(trilema) mike_c: i'm on it right now. i looked at compiling it, but gave up reasonably quickly. looked like i would have to modify jamconfig pretty heavily.
(trilema) mike_c: we just got this build. gotta save something.
(trilema) mike_c: anyways, i'm the boss :)
(trilema) mike_c: i tried, but since it crashed i had to work..
(trilema) mike_c: i'll let you know
(trilema) mike_c: will do, but that box is in the office so it won't be til monday.
(trilema) mike_c: just ran it. got CS from the v0.0.1 bundle
(trilema) mike_c: maybe 12.x
(trilema) mike_c: ubuntu.. very recent version
(trilema) mike_c: otherwise i would be crafting, not chatting :D
(trilema) mike_c: no, that seg fault stopped me
(trilema) mike_c: until they get the coins they want, then it will be the best thing since sliced bread
(trilema) mike_c: silly goldman
(trilema) mike_c: "there is no liquid derivative market for Bitcoin" only because of gox!
(trilema) mike_c: crash report? thanks.
(trilema) mike_c: but those DEBUG lines are supiscious
(trilema) mike_c: nor did i.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, maybe something with the audio issues they've been having and my sound drivers
(trilema) mike_c: i can pastebin it, but i don't believe it is modified from the download bundle (if you have that)
(trilema) mike_c: obviously i don't have the game working though.
(trilema) mike_c: btw, i downloaded cs from bundle 1, set CRYSTAL and LD_LIBRARY_PATH env variables, and it found it
(trilema) mike_c: i did. a large config file for the updater.
(trilema) mike_c: nubbins` did you ever get this thing building/running?
(trilema) mike_c: paging eulora support. any suggestions on investigating seg fault on launch? http://pastebin.com/pr0rpyfp
(trilema) mike_c: hah. i have had that exact conversation recently.
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: i don't know what the discrepency is, but my logs disagree with that. Like I am seeing that Jan. 25th and Jan. 28th were basically down all day and I just got stock bid/asks from the market depth feed. who knows. i'll look for bugs in my poller sometime.
(trilema) mike_c: hehe. just teasing.
(trilema) mike_c: less dumbfoundingly stupid? :D assets is so affirming
(trilema) mike_c: gox back over 100! to the moon!
(trilema) mike_c: ah, i did not know that. well, it is accurate now at least. could be improved for usefulness. my interest was mostly looking for extended downtime stretches.
(trilema) mike_c: hm. is it not useful that it went up and down often?
(trilema) mike_c: why not? looks fixed to me
(trilema) mike_c: ;;later tell mircea_popescu you were right, graph was clumping data points. here it is fixed: http://i.imgur.com/LgHsdOq.png
(trilema) mike_c: just don't tell anyone what we talked about while OTR there.
(trilema) mike_c: ok, first off, let me make sure the down/up is accurate in january.
(trilema) mike_c: if you zoomed in on the graph (not the png), you would get to 2 minute resolution
(trilema) mike_c: no, it's not bucketed.
(trilema) mike_c: the data has a 2 minute resolution. the graph is obv. somewhat less, but it is taken from that data.
(trilema) mike_c: no, not all the pikes are on tick marks
(trilema) mike_c: the graph has a 2 minute resolution
(trilema) mike_c: polling every 2 minutes
(trilema) mike_c: kk, disregard, i did some spot checking on downtimes but maybe not enough. i'll verify.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, seem nuts? i can check data.
(trilema) mike_c: yah, 0 is down, 1 is up
(trilema) mike_c: price of what?
(trilema) mike_c: little blips of up/down time i guess.
(trilema) mike_c: MPOE market maker uptime since Jan 3: http://i.imgur.com/lwu9eMs.png
(trilema) mike_c: they aren't playing games, they are day trading on gox
(trilema) mike_c: dollar-cost average is my second favorite "finance" term after head-and-shoulders.
(trilema) mike_c: best in the business. it's like being the best spammer or something.
(trilema) mike_c: what an infuriating error message
(trilema) mike_c: BingoBoingo: last sale was to me, so you don't have *all* the orders on x-bt :)
(trilema) mike_c: hah, yeah, i read that. but that is a minor consideration against the order of magnitude changes when it goes up.
(trilema) mike_c: benkay: recently? don't think so. i've been around for a couple discussions on the topic.
(trilema) mike_c: i already installed opera just for you kako. opera next is probably beyond your service contract.
(trilema) mike_c: ok, maybe i'll change it now.
(trilema) mike_c: yes, that one i didn't want to bother serving locally. but i will probably change that b/c their server is down more than mine.
(trilema) mike_c: should we support it.
(trilema) mike_c: thanks moiety. there is more to come on that page.
(trilema) mike_c: you don't have to clear cache. i version my static files like a good webdev.
(trilema) mike_c: (kidding)
(trilema) mike_c: oh, i don't support mac
(trilema) mike_c: ok! so what browser/os we working with here?
(trilema) mike_c: sry chan, i'll pm.
(trilema) mike_c: Apocalyptic: thanks. also, i believe awhile ago you mentioned you were interested in the income investments section, so check out http://www.btcalpha.com/income/. it's version 1, but still some useful info i think.
(trilema) mike_c: thanks. credit to kakobrekla for sending that along. very cool of him.
(trilema) mike_c: August through january. i think that's 5
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: yup
(trilema) mike_c: you didn't even read it yet benkay!
(trilema) mike_c: 1) stop withdrawals. 2) use your 'unlimited account' to buy btc at 260. 3) use whatever you have left in the sofa cushions to process some withdrawals and restore some confidence 4) sell some of your cheap coins and use funds to process more withdrawals. 5) goto step 4.
(trilema) mike_c: no shame if you are upfront about it. some shame if you say its not and it is.
(trilema) mike_c: i do like this new breed though that is upfront about the ponzi-ness.
(trilema) mike_c: un-squickily. what a word :)
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, sry. in the arguments the other day mp said the wot can be backed up by anyone (similar to mpex db). that is my basis for "yes". idk how, but it should not be fruitless to keep looking for how.
(trilema) mike_c: bitbet needs moar links. where's that list of proposed/rejected bets?
(trilema) mike_c: BingoBoingo: is there a btc line-betting sportsbook that isn't a total scam?
(trilema) mike_c: w00t, $500 from the nsa
(trilema) mike_c: aren't we all sitting in front of multiple 30" monitors that are blasting our eyes to crap anyway?
(trilema) mike_c: !t h rent
(trilema) mike_c: also, they aren't really "bots". just computer programs.
(trilema) mike_c: fire up the day trading bots
(trilema) mike_c: however the altcoin market.. getting tight! 100 satoshi spread on x-bt
(trilema) mike_c: is TWTR value derived from its economic activity or from pipe dreams about future potential?
(trilema) mike_c: the havelock market implies a lot of things
(trilema) mike_c: Duffer1 :) that's the second time. are you deliberately misspelling conservation?
(trilema) mike_c: herbi, have you done a dcf on mpoe?
(trilema) mike_c: freenode is not healthy right now
(trilema) mike_c: underperform compared to what though.
(trilema) mike_c: i said the same historicals. obviously no one "knows" the future rate of return.
(trilema) mike_c: really? come on.
(trilema) mike_c: no, i'm talking about with the same historicals (price and eps for last 6 months)
(trilema) mike_c: nvm, anything on havelock.
(trilema) mike_c: hm, try this. would s.mpoe returning 1% a year be the same to you as 7C returning 1% a year?
(trilema) mike_c: well you are a quant :) (don't get mad now)
(trilema) mike_c: i'm not claiming that.
(trilema) mike_c: well, that was part of his point. the pmb will necessarily decay. mpoe won't.
(trilema) mike_c: you know you can sell it when you're done, right?
(trilema) mike_c: plus inflation. bitcoins in the sofa will shrink on a % basis.
(trilema) mike_c: you gotta thicken your skin a bit. you get riled too easy.
(trilema) mike_c: if your opinions can be as polarizing as mp's you can even charge for it.
(trilema) mike_c: add those thoughts to your post. it will improve it. blog readers like opinions with their stats.
(trilema) mike_c: you want an opinion out of me? s.nsa is underpriced. go ahead and trade on it.
(trilema) mike_c: why not do both? talk your book.
(trilema) mike_c: ok, so forget the article. i am curious what your opinion is.
(trilema) mike_c: have an opinion!
(trilema) mike_c: so you have no opinion on the price? you are just a calculator?
(trilema) mike_c: i don't care if you are saying it was too high, you are entitled to your opinion.
(trilema) mike_c: very very seems to be impying too high :)
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