ben_vulpes: web is not even a place where "words have meaning"
ben_vulpes: no thank you
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: better?
ben_vulpes: yeah that sucks
ben_vulpes: gotcha
ben_vulpes: i am looking. what in particular are you objecting to?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what means "gloms horizontally"?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ty
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/04/12000-luxury-fyre-festival-is-basically-a-disaster-zone/
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i must confess -- styling html makes me impotent
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: good idea
ben_vulpes: parts of it have an odd feel, as though i were reading altcoin propaganda from another dimension
ben_vulpes: https://blog.buoyant.io/2017/04/25/whats-a-service-mesh-and-why-do-i-need-one/ << "everything must run over http" monomania in full effect
ben_vulpes: impressive splatter on that one
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: great link
ben_vulpes: and how
ben_vulpes: ah, trailing slash necessary
ben_vulpes: 404's for me
ben_vulpes: shadow corporatocracy signaling its cronies
ben_vulpes: w also similar in shape to upside down double arches
ben_vulpes: lol cow anomie
ben_vulpes: lulzcownomy?
ben_vulpes: definitely good for the lulzconomy
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-25#1647802 << [Anna March] is at work on an essay collection, "Feminist Killjoy". also http://www.annamarch.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/10311349_637458956332337_2729010927784395672_n-e1410903416249.jpg
ben_vulpes: sks uses bdb as well?
ben_vulpes: mats: godspeed
ben_vulpes: housing should be free!
ben_vulpes: why bother to get in bed with the actual power structure when you can just proclaim yourself first biggest best and disrupt them from the outside
ben_vulpes: since rebranded as "Business for a Better Portland"
ben_vulpes: perhaps some day i shall relate the saga of the stillborn "PICOC", or "Portland Independent Chamber of Commerce" or "Californians Attempting to Carve Themselves a Slice of Relevancy by Advertising Their Seriously Cutting-Edge Aid to the Poor Programs"
ben_vulpes: reliability is important if your birds cost millions to loft
ben_vulpes: and i'm pretty sure that we did the tightly-coupled gps+imu+kalman filter thread before
ben_vulpes: the only hard part of gps + rocket is maintaining lock under g's
ben_vulpes: well with caveats pursuant to mircea_popescu's critique that gps is not long for this world, gps + dead reckoning
ben_vulpes: open sea not friendly either.
ben_vulpes: dead reckoning works reasonably well, in that it has an error distribution and one can handle that with volume.
ben_vulpes: once satwar begins, debris is going to knock out *all* birds and make orbit useless until someone decides to burn epic piles of btc cleaning it up.
ben_vulpes: that'll be the end of orbital access as well.
ben_vulpes: mats: for my education, over how large of an area can a carrier group jam gps?
ben_vulpes: a hir-stitute!
ben_vulpes: what, this implies it's actually hard?
ben_vulpes: i gather i should be impressed that the us can hit a ship under full steam with guided ordinance
ben_vulpes: https://youtu.be/Jgv5ixxgTsQ?t=153 << couple of birds get really surprised around 2:30
ben_vulpes: may your hirstute frame hold the horde at bay
ben_vulpes: go get 'em tiger
ben_vulpes: if the us could still glass places, perhaps i'd not despise it so
ben_vulpes: embrace the imminent hairy rape, BingoBoingo
ben_vulpes: scary jihad warrior my sides
ben_vulpes: gotta brick those up before the flying ones start coming through
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: cute little portal to the netherworld you got there
ben_vulpes 's asciilifeform-ulator confirmed operational
ben_vulpes: and in mega-spittoons: https://kolemcrae.com/microsoft-you-seriously-need-to-fix-your-skype-and-microsoft-account-issues-this-is-insane-6fd51e104caa
ben_vulpes: princeton, stating the obvious as far back as 2014
ben_vulpes: in other "ain't got nuffin to say, but gonna say it anyways" entries: https://freedom-to-tinker.com/2014/10/27/bitcoin-mining-is-np-hard/
ben_vulpes: mats: you ride?
ben_vulpes: it also mitigates against point of motorcycle which is to go out in style and at speed
ben_vulpes: there are many less traumatic failure modes helmet mitigates against
ben_vulpes: what's that after adjusting for inflation?
ben_vulpes: i'll take one busted 20-year old f350 tyvm
ben_vulpes: might be fun to distribute large fabric squares to bike scum that say something like "THIS PATCH HACKS ROBOCARS" with a nonsense illustration below
ben_vulpes: pedalpalooza's coming up
ben_vulpes: by which i mean a testbed for hooligans with GPUs, bad attitudes, and a cursory interest in adversarial image generation.
ben_vulpes: *urban* robocar experiments!
ben_vulpes: in other news, portland fashioning itself as a testbed for robocar experiments
ben_vulpes: nothing, was being sarcastic
ben_vulpes: part of a balanced interior decoration diet.
ben_vulpes: guitars, but yes
ben_vulpes: nobody said anything about now much exposed
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: does not twiddle living space aesthetics?
ben_vulpes: off-white above eye-level, colors below
ben_vulpes: a few black, a few a dark green, kiddo's room is blue
ben_vulpes: great scenery though. walls all the same color the landlord left 'em in.
ben_vulpes: > mothin fuckin uhhhh
ben_vulpes: wow reads like an ebonics student
ben_vulpes: this concludes the #trilema daily episode of ben_vulpes is wrong about everything
ben_vulpes: also truffles are hard to find, aren't crickets farmed? or was that cockroaches
ben_vulpes: at least there's a trained pig involved, that sounds like some sort of capital investment.
ben_vulpes: "trees", but to answer the first question i suppose a resounding "no"
ben_vulpes: found by trained pigs, no?
ben_vulpes: here i was thinking that rooting around in the dirt for grubs was for teh poors
ben_vulpes: silly me
ben_vulpes: prehispanic!
ben_vulpes: san francisco no es un pais pobre: http://68.media.tumblr.com/d10d40d189e246943eefd0a39cc0078c/tumblr_oon71r8Ttw1s2jikwo1_1280.jpg (from bruces)
ben_vulpes: oh interesting
ben_vulpes: extremely educational
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'm really enjoying the notes from scintillator quest
ben_vulpes: odd because in what world is that a "proof of concept", unless there's some bass ackwards msft-trained IT snotrag 'ethics' line that somehow justifies the pretense to proof of a video a twelve-year old could have faked
ben_vulpes: nsf grantee produced a odd little video of a chrome browser running under programmatic control solving captchas and 'brute forcing' passwords
ben_vulpes: where if i read correctly, chrome udp's passwords to such services as gmail in such a way as to 'encrypt' them but still reveal their length
ben_vulpes: fun temporal proximity coincidence to http://www.ringroadbug.com/ showing up in #b-a, where i found the hilarious nsf-grantee's website
ben_vulpes: staggering lol
ben_vulpes: "The Bindmans LLP law firm, acting on behalf of (green party, house of lords rep) Jones, contacted six of those listed to verify their passwords...In response, five of the six gave passwords that matched those given in the letter and the sixth was nearly a match."
ben_vulpes: mhm
ben_vulpes: only adjusts every two weeks, right?
ben_vulpes: i suppose, weak proxy though
ben_vulpes: how does one detect hashpower?
ben_vulpes: what, someone else can propose it
ben_vulpes: getting 51% signatures for each trade? or...?
ben_vulpes: this implies they'll run their own rsk central bank thinger?
ben_vulpes: c'est un mysthurr
ben_vulpes: how do these "two way pegs" work?
ben_vulpes: met him in ars a while back
ben_vulpes: yeah
ben_vulpes: i think he's been around a while
ben_vulpes: ohey, dieguito
ben_vulpes: manpage indicates padding must be asked for
ben_vulpes: dd on bsd (os x, claims 1994 vintage) does not appear to pad
ben_vulpes: hmk
ben_vulpes: but you don't see that from your career of programmering to date?
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: complexity is a the self-justifying disease of the programmer's mind
ben_vulpes: while we're doing these, i'd be much obliged if folks with a copy of drakma on hand would run `(drakma:http-request "https://untrusted-root.badssl.com")` and let me know what you get
ben_vulpes: p. bad.
ben_vulpes: weeks+ is prudent, review is slow
ben_vulpes: !~google trout trolling
ben_vulpes: it's a freshwater river thing.
ben_vulpes: one trawls for lolz, trolls for trout.
ben_vulpes: trolling is /fishing/
ben_vulpes: this is snark, not trolling
ben_vulpes: eh we could just give up on verification
ben_vulpes: keep 'em comin boys
ben_vulpes: second gross of the day
ben_vulpes ducks
ben_vulpes: excel
ben_vulpes: 'members' threw me off
ben_vulpes: ah
ben_vulpes: PSP?
ben_vulpes: trb builds with buildroot though, does that with which the kernel is compiled affect that pipeline?
ben_vulpes: "baby why do you hate it?" "because it's sooo baaaad"
ben_vulpes: "Kings are fine for storytime./ Knights are fun to play./ But when we make decisions/ we will choose the people's way!"
ben_vulpes: hah uh huh
ben_vulpes: board books are costly, but yes
ben_vulpes: bad bad agitprop masquerading as a children's book
ben_vulpes: one of the $libgirls in $othertown
ben_vulpes: someone else, possibly 2/10 troll
ben_vulpes: no i prohibited spending money on it when i saw the cover for the first time months ago
ben_vulpes: zero rhyme, and let us not speak of the reason.
ben_vulpes: yeah and corporate is capitalized but vulture oddly not
ben_vulpes: t i shit thee not is for trans
ben_vulpes: which tbqh i did not think was possible
ben_vulpes: and if you thought the ideological brainrot was bad, the writing is /even worse/.
ben_vulpes: this showed up in my house: https://www.amazon.com/Activist-Innosanto-Nagara/dp/1609805399
ben_vulpes: i had a similar experience recently, asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: gross
ben_vulpes: pretty cool, barely a week
ben_vulpes bbl, BABIES
ben_vulpes: sure yeah
ben_vulpes: the last one strikes me as terrible experimental design
ben_vulpes: also the weakening tests
ben_vulpes: that last tidbit is interesting
ben_vulpes: http://wot.deedbot.org/6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452.html << visualizer in action
ben_vulpes: well visualizer of 'M' doesn't mean much
ben_vulpes: trinque's visualizer lives at http://wot.deedbot.org/
ben_vulpes: nono, trinque
ben_vulpes: if your time has no value :D
ben_vulpes: thing is terrifyingly long-lifed
ben_vulpes: > break into the community
ben_vulpes: (but this is asciilifeform's line...)
ben_vulpes: child abuse i tell you
ben_vulpes: relatedly, i recently saw a pitch for a very 'colorful' animated tv show (?) that would teach children the basics of html/css/js
ben_vulpes: it has stapled shameful brass brand plates onto the beautiful old customs building
ben_vulpes: there is a wework right down the street
ben_vulpes: minimum buy 1.2/mo for 'office'
ben_vulpes: but you have to go up to 350/mo for 24/7 access
ben_vulpes: 130/mo for hot desk, not actually too bad
ben_vulpes: sweet deal
ben_vulpes: origin story of this particular side quest is that i wanted to remove things from a list without having to jump through the hoops of remove and erase by using std::list remove_if
ben_vulpes: lol right?
ben_vulpes: i could be wrong, pre c++11 might have adequate for loops
ben_vulpes: first step towards slicing boost, if that's even possibru
ben_vulpes: granted, i'm not looking into it too deeply beyond "m yeah blocks seem to be accruing"
ben_vulpes: the spaces gcc wanted for Real True C++11 Standard Compliance appears to have not affected node behavior
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: nominal nsf grantee
ben_vulpes: kicker is that they're nsf funded
ben_vulpes: wiley hackers, i tell you! they could be trying to get in, right this minute, through the window! or maybe just by talking to their wife, they can learn enough to put into their artificial intelligence hackery machines to make guesses at your password! you need this thing! that we sell!
ben_vulpes: "You can then add some data protection by remotely encrypting data during the closed business hours when data could be exposed to wiley hackers."
ben_vulpes: sheeeeit i do say this is some highly refined snake oil: http://www.spotcyber.com/
ben_vulpes: ;)
ben_vulpes: from the annals of well-engineered application of force: https://68.media.tumblr.com/ae3acc647db92af58702b31087b30b78/tumblr_oohx87Hr2R1vnq1cro1_400.gif
ben_vulpes: ho ho ho si se puede indeed
ben_vulpes: none of it much larger than "cottage industry"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: printing of tshirts and stickers, leatherworking/seaming, i believe the glass fabrication folks are in on it as well
ben_vulpes: even funnier is the "car lease"
ben_vulpes: i think this gets the rest of the gcc bitching: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/k9CNE/?raw=true
ben_vulpes have stale strange in tooling
ben_vulpes: although wtf, perhaps this vpatch does not nuke all barfage
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ew8j2/?raw=true
ben_vulpes: one sec, brain liquifier running
ben_vulpes: i can reproduce up the specific barf if you'd like
ben_vulpes: something along the lines of string literals next to template macros
ben_vulpes: gcc's c++11 mode began complaining about such
ben_vulpes: is there a reason to think that it wouldn't?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: unless i've made a terrible mistake, do believe it builds
ben_vulpes: 1% compiler flags, 99% syntax gynmastics
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, /me testing a node compiling under c++11 rules, wild vpatch for anyone who wants to play along: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/p2A0L/?raw=true
ben_vulpes: something something also "involved in 'porn'"
ben_vulpes: glorious socialist republic, at the forefront of socialist innovations claimed and actual, from right to die to filthy black-brigaders messing up all of our lovely peaceful protests
ben_vulpes loled at an old local liberal spitting on the ground when having to discuss "eugene anarchists"
ben_vulpes: who could've predicted that a transportation system designed to give every schmuck their own car for driving as far as they can would be so expensive in the long run. who could've predicted the automatic transmission would accelerate the trend, or that robocars idem.
ben_vulpes: aaaand because the rail system is nonexistent, freight weight will not change and continue to rip roads up.
ben_vulpes: mitigation actually runs in two directions; reduction in wear on road from lighter vehicles and reduction in wear on lighter vehicles from their own asses bouncing around. human-mass will keep going up, though, which will also eat the savings.
ben_vulpes: bridges still fall down in the great again
ben_vulpes: there's a very real lower bound on the savings to be delivered with this vehicle though, and they're probably going to get burnt down by the poor folks who can't afford any better than the plastic having to drive further because must ams cities.
ben_vulpes: plastification of typical vehicle mitigates against wear and tear from ever more degraded roads. less mass, less demand on the shock absorption system.
ben_vulpes: the naive counter that "cars and more land area covered with rapidly-depreciated asphault solve nothing either!" is stupidly ignorant of path-dependent processes. america is the land of cars (thanks eisenhower) and will remain so for as far out as i can see.
ben_vulpes: tar me not with their wailing!
ben_vulpes: relatedly, light industry in p-town is gearing up for some serious wailing on the topic of how all of the cheap housing for their cheap labor is ~gone and now cheap labor has to buy a car and fuel/maintain/operate/park it instead of biking ten minutes to the shabby-chic warehouse from their squalid shared living setups
ben_vulpes: in other alf triggers: https://github.com/zhemao/glisp
ben_vulpes: craigslist for the maga demo?
ben_vulpes: i'm halfway curious about the cl it poops out
ben_vulpes: i am making very serious faces of 'no fucking idea'
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'mezzano'
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: pretty good reason to stay in florida
ben_vulpes: little 'lisp os' doesn't have its own c compiler, author makes "transpiler": https://github.com/froggey/Iota
ben_vulpes: "vip" rates are "30 us per song with no touching", "ultra vip" rates are "100/10 min and maybe we let you touch something", ben_vulpes rates are "just sit down and tip like normal and we'll writhe all over you for reasons"
ben_vulpes: well from the cause of "i was just watching but okay" and not towards the purpose of "how much for how little"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: not really a squeeze, "no, come on. we'll grab a side stage. you've been great just come along."
ben_vulpes: and this is why i don't play eulora
ben_vulpes: i got two of the established girls to clear one of the minor's booths for the three of us this evening! for a whole set! for less than the cost of a single song in the vip room!
ben_vulpes: i'm playing with how much they'll do in the club for how little this year
ben_vulpes: i should ask i suppose
ben_vulpes: no idea
ben_vulpes: upon consideration it's probably just observation bias from asking "so whose dancing do you like"
ben_vulpes: sure!
ben_vulpes: anyways, this particular club of its own accord mandates bottoms at all times. result is that the dancers are of markedly higher dancing quality than girls in the clubs up the street, charging 5x cover.
ben_vulpes: glorious socialist utopia of pac nw: best water, bare cunts and right to die
ben_vulpes: rather
ben_vulpes: also 2 decades of right to die, but that's neither here nor there
ben_vulpes: nudity is free speech in oregon
ben_vulpes: nono, bare cunts
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: commodity pdx strip clubs have an utterly inane rhythm. 3 dances: first sorta-clothed, second no top, third no bottoms.
ben_vulpes: i mean heckle subtly, from the booths. with eyes and conversation.
ben_vulpes: i found the strip club where bottoms stay on and hey what do you know, average dancer expertise is through the roof
ben_vulpes: hey you know what's great fun at the strip club? find the girls whose rodeo this is not their first and heckle the noobs.
ben_vulpes: mhm
ben_vulpes: shy camgirls with great tits: http://68.media.tumblr.com/825037367e4035a1f4f92031667b15f3/tumblr_oo5do9N1K31rnq3xbo1_1280.jpg
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-13#1643059 << aye, concede. can we move on to the failures of "culturing * populations and rubbing them across the sensitive mucous membranes is a bad idea" now?
ben_vulpes: oh shame, cohen got embroiled in shit?
ben_vulpes: make friends with girls in nursing school is probably the only mitigating strat
ben_vulpes: you pay a shitload of money and then try to never make a claim
ben_vulpes: we have health insurance
ben_vulpes: we don't have healthcare
ben_vulpes: well there's a whole world of coordination i've never really explored
ben_vulpes: hm swimming
ben_vulpes: hey who wants to tell me that biking fucked my back up
ben_vulpes: i biked by a gaggle of old women doing precisely this a few weeks ago
ben_vulpes: i watched some related lols play out with 'poly' friends this year. $girl couldn't bring herself to break it off with her wikipedia editor, $guy didn't offer the platform to which to jump or demand the jump, tension built and $girl doubled down on the socialistoid anxiety production machines to everyone's dismay