ben_vulpes: web is not even a place where "words have meaning"
    
    ben_vulpes: no thank you
    
    ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: better?
    
    ben_vulpes: yeah that sucks
    
    ben_vulpes: gotcha
    
    ben_vulpes: i am looking. what in particular are you objecting to?
    
    ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what means "gloms horizontally"?
    
    ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ty
    
    ben_vulpes: unrelatedly https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/04/12000-luxury-fyre-festival-is-basically-a-disaster-zone/
    
    ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i must confess -- styling html makes me impotent
    
    ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: good idea
    
    ben_vulpes: parts of it have an odd feel, as though i were reading altcoin propaganda from another dimension
    
    ben_vulpes: https://blog.buoyant.io/2017/04/25/whats-a-service-mesh-and-why-do-i-need-one/ << "everything must run over http" monomania in full effect
    
    ben_vulpes: impressive splatter on that one
    
    ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: great link
    
    ben_vulpes: and how
    
    ben_vulpes: ah, trailing slash necessary
    
    ben_vulpes: 404's for me
    
    ben_vulpes: shadow corporatocracy signaling its cronies
    
    ben_vulpes: w also similar in shape to upside down double arches
    
    ben_vulpes: lol cow anomie
    
    ben_vulpes: lulzcownomy?
    
    ben_vulpes: definitely good for the lulzconomy
    
    ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-25#1647802 << [Anna March] is at work on an essay collection, "Feminist Killjoy". also http://www.annamarch.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/10311349_637458956332337_2729010927784395672_n-e1410903416249.jpg
    
    ben_vulpes: sks uses bdb as well?
    
    ben_vulpes: mats: godspeed
    
    ben_vulpes: housing should be free!
    
    ben_vulpes: why bother to get in bed with the actual power structure when you can just proclaim yourself first biggest best and disrupt them from the outside
    
    ben_vulpes: since rebranded as "Business for a Better Portland"
    
    ben_vulpes: perhaps some day i shall relate the saga of the stillborn "PICOC", or "Portland Independent Chamber of Commerce" or "Californians Attempting to Carve Themselves a Slice of Relevancy by Advertising Their Seriously Cutting-Edge Aid to the Poor Programs"
    
    ben_vulpes: reliability is important if your birds cost millions to loft
    
    ben_vulpes: and i'm pretty sure that we did the tightly-coupled gps+imu+kalman filter thread before
    
    ben_vulpes: the only hard part of gps + rocket is maintaining lock under g's
    
    ben_vulpes: well with caveats pursuant to mircea_popescu's critique that gps is not long for this world, gps + dead reckoning
    
    ben_vulpes: open sea not friendly either.
    
    ben_vulpes: dead reckoning works reasonably well, in that it has an error distribution and one can handle that with volume.
    
    ben_vulpes: once satwar begins, debris is going to knock out *all* birds and make orbit useless until someone decides to burn epic piles of btc cleaning it up.
    
    ben_vulpes: that'll be the end of orbital access as well.
    
    ben_vulpes: mats: for my education, over how large of an area can a carrier group jam gps?
    
    ben_vulpes: a hir-stitute!
    
    ben_vulpes: what, this implies it's actually hard?
    
    ben_vulpes: i gather i should be impressed that the us can hit a ship under full steam with guided ordinance
    
    ben_vulpes: https://youtu.be/Jgv5ixxgTsQ?t=153 << couple of birds get really surprised around 2:30
    
    ben_vulpes: may your hirstute frame hold the horde at bay
    
    ben_vulpes: go get 'em tiger
    
    ben_vulpes: if the us could still glass places, perhaps i'd not despise it so
    
    ben_vulpes: embrace the imminent hairy rape, BingoBoingo
    
    ben_vulpes: scary jihad warrior my sides
    
    ben_vulpes: gotta brick those up before the flying ones start coming through
    
    ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: cute little portal to the netherworld you got there
    
    ben_vulpes 's asciilifeform-ulator confirmed operational
    
    ben_vulpes: and in mega-spittoons: https://kolemcrae.com/microsoft-you-seriously-need-to-fix-your-skype-and-microsoft-account-issues-this-is-insane-6fd51e104caa
    
    ben_vulpes: princeton, stating the obvious as far back as 2014
    
    ben_vulpes: in other "ain't got nuffin to say, but gonna say it anyways" entries: https://freedom-to-tinker.com/2014/10/27/bitcoin-mining-is-np-hard/
    
    ben_vulpes: mats: you ride?
    
    ben_vulpes: it also mitigates against point of motorcycle which is to go out in style and at speed
    
    ben_vulpes: there are many less traumatic failure modes helmet mitigates against
    
    ben_vulpes: what's that after adjusting for inflation?
    
    ben_vulpes: i'll take one busted 20-year old f350 tyvm
    
    ben_vulpes: might be fun to distribute large fabric squares to bike scum that say something like "THIS PATCH HACKS ROBOCARS" with a nonsense illustration below
    
    ben_vulpes: pedalpalooza's coming up
    
    ben_vulpes: by which i mean a testbed for hooligans with GPUs, bad attitudes, and a cursory interest in adversarial image generation.
    
    ben_vulpes: *urban* robocar experiments!
    
    ben_vulpes: in other news, portland fashioning itself as a testbed for robocar experiments
    
    ben_vulpes: nothing, was being sarcastic
    
    ben_vulpes: part of a balanced interior decoration diet.
    
    ben_vulpes: guitars, but yes
    
    ben_vulpes: nobody said anything about now much exposed
    
    ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: does not twiddle living space aesthetics?
    
    ben_vulpes: off-white above eye-level, colors below
    
    ben_vulpes: a few black, a few a dark green, kiddo's room is blue
    
    ben_vulpes: great scenery though. walls all the same color the landlord left 'em in.
    
    ben_vulpes: > mothin fuckin uhhhh
    
    ben_vulpes: wow reads like an ebonics student
    
    ben_vulpes: this concludes the #trilema daily episode of ben_vulpes is wrong about everything
    
    ben_vulpes: also truffles are hard to find, aren't crickets farmed? or was that cockroaches
    
    ben_vulpes: at least there's a trained pig involved, that sounds like some sort of capital investment.
    
    ben_vulpes: "trees", but to answer the first question i suppose a resounding "no"
    
    ben_vulpes: found by trained pigs, no?
    
    ben_vulpes: here i was thinking that rooting around in the dirt for grubs was for teh poors
    
    ben_vulpes: silly me
    
    ben_vulpes: prehispanic!
    
    ben_vulpes: san francisco no es un pais pobre: http://68.media.tumblr.com/d10d40d189e246943eefd0a39cc0078c/tumblr_oon71r8Ttw1s2jikwo1_1280.jpg (from bruces)
    
    ben_vulpes: oh interesting
    
    ben_vulpes: extremely educational
    
    ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'm really enjoying the notes from scintillator quest
    
    ben_vulpes: odd because in what world is that a "proof of concept", unless there's some bass ackwards msft-trained IT snotrag 'ethics' line that somehow justifies the pretense to proof of a video a twelve-year old could have faked
    
    ben_vulpes: nsf grantee produced a odd little video of a chrome browser running under programmatic control solving captchas and 'brute forcing' passwords
    
    ben_vulpes: where if i read correctly, chrome udp's passwords to such services as gmail in such a way as to 'encrypt' them but still reveal their length
    
    ben_vulpes: fun temporal proximity coincidence to http://www.ringroadbug.com/ showing up in #b-a, where i found the hilarious nsf-grantee's website
    
    
    
    ben_vulpes: staggering lol
    
    ben_vulpes: "The Bindmans LLP law firm, acting on behalf of (green party, house of lords rep) Jones, contacted six of those listed to verify their passwords...In response, five of the six gave passwords that matched those given in the letter and the sixth was nearly a match."
    
    ben_vulpes: mhm
    
    ben_vulpes: only adjusts every two weeks, right?
    
    ben_vulpes: i suppose, weak proxy though
    
    ben_vulpes: how does one detect hashpower?
    
    ben_vulpes: what, someone else can propose it
    
    ben_vulpes: getting 51% signatures for each trade? or...?
    
    ben_vulpes: this implies they'll run their own rsk central bank thinger?
    
    ben_vulpes: c'est un mysthurr
    
    ben_vulpes: how do these "two way pegs" work?
    
    ben_vulpes: met him in ars a while back
    
    ben_vulpes: yeah
    
    ben_vulpes: i think he's been around a while
    
    ben_vulpes: ohey, dieguito
    
    
    
    ben_vulpes: manpage indicates padding must be asked for
    
    ben_vulpes: dd on bsd (os x, claims 1994 vintage) does not appear to pad
    
    ben_vulpes: hmk
    
    ben_vulpes: but you don't see that from your career of programmering to date?
    
    ben_vulpes: Framedragger: complexity is a the self-justifying disease of the programmer's mind
    
    
    
    ben_vulpes: while we're doing these, i'd be much obliged if folks with a copy of drakma on hand would run `(drakma:http-request "https://untrusted-root.badssl.com")` and let me know what you get
    
    ben_vulpes: p. bad.
    
    ben_vulpes: weeks+ is prudent, review is slow
    
    ben_vulpes: !~google trout trolling
    
    ben_vulpes: it's a freshwater river thing.
    
    ben_vulpes: one trawls for lolz, trolls for trout.
    
    ben_vulpes: trolling is /fishing/
    
    ben_vulpes: this is snark, not trolling
    
    ben_vulpes: eh we could just give up on verification
    
    ben_vulpes: keep 'em comin boys
    
    ben_vulpes: second gross of the day
    
    ben_vulpes ducks
    
    ben_vulpes: excel
    
    ben_vulpes: 'members' threw me off
    
    ben_vulpes: ah
    
    ben_vulpes: PSP?
    
    ben_vulpes: trb builds with buildroot though, does that with which the kernel is compiled affect that pipeline?
    
    ben_vulpes: "baby why do you hate it?" "because it's sooo baaaad"
    
    ben_vulpes: "Kings are fine for storytime./ Knights are fun to play./ But when we make decisions/ we will choose the people's way!"
    
    ben_vulpes: hah uh huh
    
    ben_vulpes: board books are costly, but yes
    
    ben_vulpes: bad bad agitprop masquerading as a children's book
    
    ben_vulpes: one of the $libgirls in $othertown
    
    ben_vulpes: someone else, possibly 2/10 troll
    
    ben_vulpes: no i prohibited spending money on it when i saw the cover for the first time months ago
    
    ben_vulpes: zero rhyme, and let us not speak of the reason.
    
    ben_vulpes: yeah and corporate is capitalized but vulture oddly not
    
    ben_vulpes: t i shit thee not is for trans
    
    ben_vulpes: which tbqh i did not think was possible
    
    ben_vulpes: and if you thought the ideological brainrot was bad, the writing is /even worse/.
    
    ben_vulpes: this showed up in my house: https://www.amazon.com/Activist-Innosanto-Nagara/dp/1609805399
    
    ben_vulpes: i had a similar experience recently, asciilifeform
    
    ben_vulpes: gross
    
    ben_vulpes: pretty cool, barely a week
    
    ben_vulpes bbl, BABIES
    
    ben_vulpes: sure yeah
    
    ben_vulpes: the last one strikes me as terrible experimental design
    
    ben_vulpes: also the weakening tests
    
    ben_vulpes: that last tidbit is interesting
    
    ben_vulpes: http://wot.deedbot.org/6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452.html << visualizer in action
    
    ben_vulpes: well visualizer of 'M' doesn't mean much
    
    ben_vulpes: trinque's visualizer lives at http://wot.deedbot.org/
    
    ben_vulpes: nono, trinque
    
    ben_vulpes: if your time has no value :D
    
    ben_vulpes: thing is terrifyingly long-lifed
    
    ben_vulpes: > break into the community
    
    ben_vulpes: (but this is asciilifeform's line...)
    
    ben_vulpes: child abuse i tell you
    
    ben_vulpes: relatedly, i recently saw a pitch for a very 'colorful' animated tv show (?) that would teach children the basics of html/css/js
    
    ben_vulpes: it has stapled shameful brass brand plates onto the beautiful old customs building
    
    ben_vulpes: there is a wework right down the street
    
    ben_vulpes: minimum buy 1.2/mo for 'office'
    
    ben_vulpes: but you have to go up to 350/mo for 24/7 access
    
    ben_vulpes: 130/mo for hot desk, not actually too bad
    
    
    
    ben_vulpes: sweet deal
    
    ben_vulpes: origin story of this particular side quest is that i wanted to remove things from a list without having to jump through the hoops of remove and erase by using std::list remove_if
    
    ben_vulpes: lol right?
    
    ben_vulpes: i could be wrong, pre c++11 might have adequate for loops
    
    ben_vulpes: first step towards slicing boost, if that's even possibru
    
    ben_vulpes: granted, i'm not looking into it too deeply beyond "m yeah blocks seem to be accruing"
    
    ben_vulpes: the spaces gcc wanted for Real True C++11 Standard Compliance appears to have not affected node behavior
    
    ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: nominal nsf grantee
    
    ben_vulpes: kicker is that they're nsf funded
    
    ben_vulpes: wiley hackers, i tell you! they could be trying to get in, right this minute, through the window! or maybe just by talking to their wife, they can learn enough to put into their artificial intelligence hackery machines to make guesses at your password! you need this thing! that we sell!
    
    ben_vulpes: "You can then add some data protection by remotely encrypting data during the closed business hours when data could be exposed to wiley hackers."
    
    ben_vulpes: sheeeeit i do say this is some highly refined snake oil: http://www.spotcyber.com/
    
    ben_vulpes: ;)
    
    ben_vulpes: from the annals of well-engineered application of force: https://68.media.tumblr.com/ae3acc647db92af58702b31087b30b78/tumblr_oohx87Hr2R1vnq1cro1_400.gif
    
    ben_vulpes: ho ho ho si se puede indeed
    
    ben_vulpes: none of it much larger than "cottage industry"
    
    ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: printing of tshirts and stickers, leatherworking/seaming, i believe the glass fabrication folks are in on it as well
    
    ben_vulpes: even funnier is the "car lease"
    
    ben_vulpes: i think this gets the rest of the gcc bitching: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/k9CNE/?raw=true
    
    ben_vulpes have stale strange in tooling
    
    ben_vulpes: although wtf, perhaps this vpatch does not nuke all barfage
    
    ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ew8j2/?raw=true
    
    ben_vulpes: one sec, brain liquifier running
    
    ben_vulpes: i can reproduce up the specific barf if you'd like
    
    ben_vulpes: something along the lines of string literals next to template macros
    
    ben_vulpes: gcc's c++11 mode began complaining about such
    
    ben_vulpes: is there a reason to think that it wouldn't?
    
    ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: unless i've made a terrible mistake, do believe it builds
    
    ben_vulpes: 1% compiler flags, 99% syntax gynmastics
    
    ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, /me testing a node compiling under c++11 rules, wild vpatch for anyone who wants to play along: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/p2A0L/?raw=true
    
    ben_vulpes: something something also "involved in 'porn'"
    
    ben_vulpes: glorious socialist republic, at the forefront of socialist innovations claimed and actual, from right to die to filthy black-brigaders messing up all of our lovely peaceful protests
    
    ben_vulpes loled at an old local liberal spitting on the ground when having to discuss "eugene anarchists"
    
    ben_vulpes: who could've predicted that a transportation system designed to give every schmuck their own car for driving as far as they can would be so expensive in the long run. who could've predicted the automatic transmission would accelerate the trend, or that robocars idem.
    
    ben_vulpes: aaaand because the rail system is nonexistent, freight weight will not change and continue to rip roads up.
    
    ben_vulpes: mitigation actually runs in two directions; reduction in wear on road from lighter vehicles and reduction in wear on lighter vehicles from their own asses bouncing around. human-mass will keep going up, though, which will also eat the savings.
    
    ben_vulpes: bridges still fall down in the great again
    
    ben_vulpes: there's a very real lower bound on the savings to be delivered with this vehicle though, and they're probably going to get burnt down by the poor folks who can't afford any better than the plastic having to drive further because must ams cities.
    
    ben_vulpes: plastification of typical vehicle mitigates against wear and tear from ever more degraded roads. less mass, less demand on the shock absorption system.
    
    ben_vulpes: the naive counter that "cars and more land area covered with rapidly-depreciated asphault solve nothing either!" is stupidly ignorant of path-dependent processes. america is the land of cars (thanks eisenhower) and will remain so for as far out as i can see.
    
    ben_vulpes: tar me not with their wailing!
    
    ben_vulpes: relatedly, light industry in p-town is gearing up for some serious wailing on the topic of how all of the cheap housing for their cheap labor is ~gone and now cheap labor has to buy a car and fuel/maintain/operate/park it instead of biking ten minutes to the shabby-chic warehouse from their squalid shared living setups
    
    ben_vulpes: in other alf triggers: https://github.com/zhemao/glisp
    
    ben_vulpes: craigslist for the maga demo?
    
    ben_vulpes: i'm halfway curious about the cl it poops out
    
    ben_vulpes: i am making very serious faces of 'no fucking idea'
    
    ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'mezzano'
    
    ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: pretty good reason to stay in florida
    
    ben_vulpes: little 'lisp os' doesn't have its own c compiler, author makes "transpiler": https://github.com/froggey/Iota
    
    ben_vulpes: "vip" rates are "30 us per song with no touching", "ultra vip" rates are "100/10 min and maybe we let you touch something", ben_vulpes rates are "just sit down and tip like normal and we'll writhe all over you for reasons"
    
    ben_vulpes: well from the cause of "i was just watching but okay" and not towards the purpose of "how much for how little"
    
    ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: not really a squeeze, "no, come on. we'll grab a side stage. you've been great just come along."
    
    ben_vulpes: and this is why i don't play eulora
    
    ben_vulpes: i got two of the established girls to clear one of the minor's booths for the three of us this evening! for a whole set! for less than the cost of a single song in the vip room!
    
    ben_vulpes: i'm playing with how much they'll do in the club for how little this year
    
    ben_vulpes: i should ask i suppose
    
    ben_vulpes: no idea
    
    ben_vulpes: upon consideration it's probably just observation bias from asking "so whose dancing do you like"
    
    ben_vulpes: sure!
    
    ben_vulpes: anyways, this particular club of its own accord mandates bottoms at all times. result is that the dancers are of markedly higher dancing quality than girls in the clubs up the street, charging 5x cover.
    
    ben_vulpes: glorious socialist utopia of pac nw: best water, bare cunts and right to die
    
    ben_vulpes: rather
    
    ben_vulpes: also 2 decades of right to die, but that's neither here nor there
    
    ben_vulpes: nudity is free speech in oregon
    
    ben_vulpes: nono, bare cunts
    
    ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: commodity pdx strip clubs have an utterly inane rhythm. 3 dances: first sorta-clothed, second no top, third no bottoms.
    
    ben_vulpes: i mean heckle subtly, from the booths. with eyes and conversation.
    
    ben_vulpes: i found the strip club where bottoms stay on and hey what do you know, average dancer expertise is through the roof
    
    ben_vulpes: hey you know what's great fun at the strip club? find the girls whose rodeo this is not their first and heckle the noobs.
    
    ben_vulpes: mhm
    
    ben_vulpes: shy camgirls with great tits: http://68.media.tumblr.com/825037367e4035a1f4f92031667b15f3/tumblr_oo5do9N1K31rnq3xbo1_1280.jpg
    
    ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-13#1643059 << aye, concede. can we move on to the failures of "culturing * populations and rubbing them across the sensitive mucous membranes is a bad idea" now?
    
    ben_vulpes: oh shame, cohen got embroiled in shit?
    
    ben_vulpes: make friends with girls in nursing school is probably the only mitigating strat
    
    ben_vulpes: you pay a shitload of money and then try to never make a claim
    
    ben_vulpes: we have health insurance
    
    ben_vulpes: we don't have healthcare
    
    ben_vulpes: well there's a whole world of coordination i've never really explored
    
    ben_vulpes: hm swimming
    
    ben_vulpes: hey who wants to tell me that biking fucked my back up
    
    ben_vulpes: i biked by a gaggle of old women doing precisely this a few weeks ago
    
    ben_vulpes: i watched some related lols play out with 'poly' friends this year. $girl couldn't bring herself to break it off with her wikipedia editor, $guy didn't offer the platform to which to jump or demand the jump, tension built and $girl doubled down on the socialistoid anxiety production machines to everyone's dismay