mircea_popescu: the toilet ?
KRS-One: try it sometime..u can think some crazy shit..idk maybe its all the drugs i did
KRS-One: there is no telling where your mind can go if you let go
ThickAsThieves: now he has to make them up
KRS-One: interesting reading nevertheless! lol
mircea_popescu: and so there you go, she might as well say yes.
mircea_popescu: (obviousl;y some research as to the more nubile forum members being i norder)
mircea_popescu: you further have identified her, and she is X
mircea_popescu: then in due time you explain that the REASON you took the time trip is because the future sucks, and you are seeking your own mother in her youth to fuck her and so in causing a singularity erase that sucky future.
mircea_popescu: you sign up to a forum, under the pretense you are a time traveller from the future. you establish this persona, more or less humorously but intelligently,
mircea_popescu: maybe that's how you recruit them ?
ThickAsThieves: they like WANT to be scammed
benkay: don't know that that's a calculation i really have time or interest in. sounds more like piles of time spent surveying that'd be better spent recruiting the surveyed into my bed
mircea_popescu: exercise for benkay and anyone else : let the standard deviations be calculated for one who only engages in sexual congress with members of one gender that accept as prerequisite that they may not have any say in when sex is happening nor in the choice of partners or activities.
benkay: (also come on does no one appreciate the standard deviation pun?)
benkay: also yes i do but that's not the point i'm making.
benkay: having sex at all makes one a fucking weirdo these days. more than one partner? you're at least three standard deviations out.
benkay: unless you have sex only in the missionary position you're a fucking weirdo, mircea_popescu.
pankkake: straight/gay is the most boring sexual distinction
mircea_popescu: well then everyone's confused.
mircea_popescu: you kidding me, i'm like the one left rock of actual straightness in a sea of you bicurious drug addled peeps!
KRS-One: i think its in the genes
ThickAsThieves: i suspect there is
KRS-One: not sure there is a connection with intelligence
ThickAsThieves: also the more highly intelligent people i'm friends with seem sexually confused at best
benkay: what, you think the kids were actually moving weight?
ThickAsThieves: the dealers were jewish
KRS-One: ThickAsThieves: You could be right with that theory, artists can be that way or go both ways.
benkay: sounds like the cops just wanted an excuse to bust that ring
ThickAsThieves: the ones that excel most
ThickAsThieves: i have this working theory/curiosity that a majority of artists are gay
mircea_popescu: the guy looks gay.
ThickAsThieves: sounds like pooping wasnt easy back then
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mircea_popescu: care which. place, a placea, to like. -i lui pronouns required by the verbal form
mircea_popescu: "Frantic e exact genul de film care-i place lui Harrison Ford. " = frantic is exactly the type of film hf likes.
davout: so isn't the first sentence something like "Frantic is the exact kind of movie for Harrison Ford" ?
mircea_popescu: well anything'd be an older language than creoles spoken in the new world.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, i notice the 1st comment is from a french speaking emanuelle seigner fan.
ThickAsThieves: seems like Italian is the link between
mircea_popescu: so too, the yurpeans.
KRS-One: Dizzie Gillespie another great one
davout: thoughts about the "Frantic" movie ?
KRS-One: not sure what to make of current stuff, a lot of crap out there now..unless its my tastes changing.
mircea_popescu: which is kind-of how it will play with the 90s or whatever other decade. we're probably so badly deluged in all the crap
mircea_popescu: anyway, in the 40s armstrong was sutck in tin pan alley, dunno how many people even knew he existed
ThickAsThieves: then immigrant workers, sry
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benkay: blue collar workers don't get a say in what's pumped in their ears on-shift.
the20year: There are exceptions to my statement of 'the 90s sucked musically' but considering how much music was put out during that decade
ThickAsThieves: first, you dont judge quality of a decade's music by what is currently on the radio
the20year: go look at the billboard top 20 from 1991 through 1999
the20year: (Almost never, and that's because they're compeletely irrelevant)
ThickAsThieves: <the20year> By 1998, in the US there was plenty of 80s being played still, today there is very little 90s music being played outside of things like nirvana ,tool, apc, metallica, and other similar hard rock type bands --- that is not how you sort things
the20year: The pop of the 80s is still being played along with the pop of the 60s and 70s, not so much for pop music from the 90s
mircea_popescu: irene, irene and like what, turkey in the straw.
the20year: By 1998, in the US there was plenty of 80s being played still, today there is very little 90s music being played outside of things like nirvana ,tool, apc, metallica, and other similar hard rock type bands
the20year: Nirvana will be one of the very little that will be played
mircea_popescu: other than for some sort of ronald mcdonald reason
the20year: And nirvana worse than that, of all the music out there, 50 years from now, very little from the 90s will be played
KRS-One: they are a percussion band
the20year: In the grand scheme fo things, tool is only mediocre
davout: the coolest music happened before 1950
KRS-One: either
the20year: Iron maiden has been good since they started, and the 90s weren't really significantly better than any other decade
the20year: iron maiden started in the 70s
KRS-One: yeh 90s music was great imo..it improved the 80's and launched a new rock and roll
mircea_popescu: maybe the 90s were ok in grenwich village too, but i wouldn't trade.
KRS-One: thank you the20year
the20year: US has had it pretty good all the 20th century
KRS-One: ThickAsThieves: the 90s was my time..best music and everything.
davout: maybe 100 years from now mircea futurescu will say the exact same thing
mircea_popescu: which... you know, the braindead have it very well today, i'm sure.
mircea_popescu: yeah, if they were braindead.
mircea_popescu: give me a motherfucking break, i'd have been breivik
mircea_popescu: nah, it was bullshit, i couldn't have stood the 50s
mircea_popescu: so what, you can be raised by a poor mother working two shifts and an absent father who then came back as an antsy alcoholic ?
KRS-One: In the U.S. specifically.
KRS-One: in the U.S. at any rate.
KRS-One: mircea_popescu: being born in the 1930's might not have been bad.
mircea_popescu: it's pretty much all it is, you now get the opportunity to show us your tits like we cared.
ThickAsThieves: even being a celebrity means having to seriously ponder when/whether to do a sex tape
KRS-One: In the mean time, I think my wife awaits in Germany. Wonder what the I.T. market for a gringo guy from the U.S. is like there.
KRS-One: Yes, mircea_popescu. Someone has to do it, preferrably them.
mircea_popescu: and that everything the plebs do is pretty much a pretext for them being exploited, wikipedia chief example
mircea_popescu: it's so cool that pretty much everything women do is now merely a pretext for them to get porn careers.
ThickAsThieves: their women arent bad
ThickAsThieves: lowest of the low
mircea_popescu: yes, there does exist a network of individuals who operate outside of the constraints of "normal society"
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mircea_popescu: MP's MI5: someone said karpeles was spotted in the bahamas
mircea_popescu: kind-of works the same way in english, and in french too
davout: yes, in french too, "une énormité", exactly the same meaning
mircea_popescu: now, while he was involved with the pirate crap, and pumped it, and it failed,
mircea_popescu: goat is basically this lamer that likes to gossip about things pretending like he's related to them
ThickAsThieves: maybe they are bros
ThickAsThieves: maybe all the scams are goat
ThickAsThieves: he's also the one who Goat made a big trade with last year,
mircea_popescu: the best part about google is that by googling mpoe-pr i get a link to her recent posts
mircea_popescu: "the secret MPEx doesn't want you to know about how a single mom made stock monyz working from the kitchen"
kakobrekla: stop with the slander
ThickAsThieves: "In other word's this isn't Tat Investments, exotic complex virtual bonds, that make Chase and Goldman derivatives look like a joke."
kakobrekla: you can pm me and ill let them know
ThickAsThieves: is there a place to?
ThickAsThieves: just in case they dont already know
ThickAsThieves: the blockr page has a weird bug where sometimes links arent clickable, something about scrolling affects it
ThickAsThieves: website updated with current links etc http://therealaltcoin.org/
ThickAsThieves: the console wasnt taking for some reason
Duffer1: search %appdata% then double click on Roaming
pankkake: 125.120.196.224 68.35.72.33 162.243.123.118 other IPs to try
pankkake: someone did it in the thread I think
Duffer1: same dir as the exe i believe
pankkake: on Linux ~ is the home
ThickAsThieves: <pankkake> otherwise you can also add nodes in ~/.altcoin/altcoin.conf that path exists?
ThickAsThieves: the help menu shows different syntax
pankkake: otherwise you can also add nodes in ~/.altcoin/altcoin.conf
herbijudlestoids: kakobrekla: i got a couple of USB hubs here, but they dont seem to like the ASICs, so itll have to be 336MH/s until it comes :P
herbijudlestoids: ok, i ordered a new USB hub so i can resurrect the lil mining rig and set it on ATC
herbijudlestoids: i wonder who is contributing the ~40-100GH/s reports on the mining pool website for ATC
mircea_popescu: but anyway, my car's been waiting for like half an hour by now, i'll get fined for parking with the driver in it at this rate.
mircea_popescu: he WILL make the thing. because he's that stupid, and he lives in a braindead society which encourages fuckwits to "express themselves"
mircea_popescu: then that'll just be a bunch of people getting hurt down the road. pretty much exactly how most everything outside of mpex has been working to date, from the exchanges, starting with mtgox, to anything you wish to pick
kakobrekla: theo is long gone
mircea_popescu: theo: what i suggest is if you think the existing thing has deficiencies that you can overcome, make your own thing and people will flock to it << no see, that's outright evil. the guy perceives deficiencies due to the shit on his eyes, and fails to see the actual problems. if he manages to get in the media with his braindamaged implementation (which is possible seeing how cluelessly stupid media people are)
herbijudlestoids: pankkake: out of curiosity, how many GH are you contributing to the ATC pool right now?
mircea_popescu: that goes straight intpo the bash
moiety: lolol @ 'the block-cape'
mircea_popescu: otc here and on the forum
pankkake: no, there was a recent wave of sha256 altcoins, after usb erupters were totally useless
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids possibly. certainly the first to get over 100 difficulty.
herbijudlestoids: is altcoin the first altcoin that has absolutely no difference from the original bitcoin in terms of algorithm?
pankkake: mine bernankoin, then
mircea_popescu: the split lasted for like half a day
mircea_popescu: upon push the blockchain split, all the traders on the old chain, all the fuckwits still at that point following their release cycle on a new chain
mircea_popescu: ah well. so that went like this : hearn changed the db structure in the new release without reading the old db code because fuck, he worked at google!
mircea_popescu: omg thank you power ranger pancake for having fixed the blockchain with your powers!
mircea_popescu: you broke the alt ?!
herbijudlestoids: no its ok i will just use that other IP i found previously
pankkake: herbijudlestoids: yes. didn't you get any other connections?
mircea_popescu: but i'm a very unfortunate mix of volcanic personality and hands-right-into-the-grease mental model
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: tbh if you have been dealing with incessant queries from people with similar questions to theo then i can understand why you react the way you do to many things :P
mircea_popescu: i gotta stop reading these logs ;/
mircea_popescu: as far as i know, out of all the folks pretending to be into bitcoin finance, the only person who was in the press is yours truly.
mircea_popescu: cause if you don't daytrade and have a family those are the questions that matter, not whether someone paid random unheard of "press" outfit fiddy bux to run their bs story about nothing.
mircea_popescu: and b) exactly what would be the average return of an investor who put in 1 btc over a basket of everything they had a year ago.
mircea_popescu: now go ask havelock exactly what a) the total bitcoin loss from all listed and closed companies is so far with them
ThickAsThieves: of course most of those wafers will be mining Altcoin by then, so it works out
mircea_popescu: most importantly, the part you missed is http://trilema.com/2013/the-list-of-discontinued-assets-on-mpex/
mircea_popescu: theo you obviously missed the part where mpex has about a million btc mkt cap listed, and the part where the largest ipos in the history of btc all happened on mpex
mircea_popescu: so basically if bitcoiners had a 1 btc budged for killing people, it'd go ~1 btc to taking out friedcat and ~0 btc to taking out a bunch of tards in suits in the us self importantly yakking about regulation or whatever the fuck.
mircea_popescu: so if indeed they deliver pretty much everyone mining currently is screwed.
mircea_popescu: and mine with the rest.
ThickAsThieves: theyll basically sell as much as would be bought it sounds
ThickAsThieves: which maybe is the year
ThickAsThieves: that's for the year
ThickAsThieves: "Depending on fab capacity. Total target is 10k to 40k wafers, relying on competitors, Bitcoin price, and other factors. A wafer is rated at 40 TH/s."
mircea_popescu: aww shit the guy's not here
mircea_popescu: PierreCPA: Perhaps, though I think we'll call them "accounting system developers", accounting will be done entirely 100% by computers
pankkake: you made me do accounting, as the transaction list of bitcoin-qt sucks
ThickAsThieves: tradition is the best empiricism right?
pankkake: oh, the current binaries don't have dns seeds
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moiety: i love the language code of this channel
ThickAsThieves: <ThickAsThieves> https://github.com/therealaltcoin/altcoin
herbijudlestoids: ThickAsThieves: can you link me the src?
ThickAsThieves: herb, ask pankakke or the thread such questions, i'm just a weirdo in a clown suit
herbijudlestoids: ThickAsThieves: is the only peer in the DNS seed still down for ATC? when i tried earlier today it was giving me conn refused and i had to explicitly connect to an IP someone posted in the chan
mircea_popescu: i'm sort-of hoping one day some libertard finds this chan and is all "we must start a petition to have these people brought to justice! they said cunt!"
mircea_popescu: whoa you ignored the girl ? you faggot!
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids "i didn't buy my bebbeh i love it any clothes because whatever, she's cold but my entire workflow consists of get in kitchen make me sammich"
moiety: hi mircea_popescu lol catching up? and nope they should go find it and read it in the first place.
mircea_popescu: it's not just the addressable memory pool size that counts.
mircea_popescu: o you mean the cpu is 64bit but you're using a 32bit os ?
mircea_popescu: but inasmuch as both you and your referrer get 5 btc, it could be argued the new account only costs 20 with a referrer. anyway.
mircea_popescu: moiety the idea is in http://mpex.co/faq.html#13 and i didn't say anything because what am i to do, keep pasting the faq ?
herbijudlestoids: i should just get the lil rig back up and running
herbijudlestoids: ah ok, solo mining is not hard it seems, i just point cgminer to the altcoind
ThickAsThieves: herb i dunno how diff to set up mining, the source isn't much different other than some logos and stuff changed
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids think of it this way : all the work you do is training.
herbijudlestoids: ThickAsThieves: ah ok, how much work do i need to do to get these lil buggers to mine on it?
mircea_popescu: it's one of those age old stories in industry "ah, who's ever gonna know" then 2 years later... bam someone burntests your shit on a large scale
ThickAsThieves: <herbijudlestoids> mircea_popescu: well since there is no source for ATC out -- source is in the thread
mircea_popescu: yeah actually, the happenstance of btc and the particular usb implementation some miner manufacturers happened to use really exposed a lot of crap the usb manufacturers were hiding under the rug for years
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: well since there is no source for ATC out, its hard for me to use my little ASICs to do anything except with cgminer
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i had a small mining rig, 1.6GH/s but one day my USB hub died and difficulty was going up so i never bothered to restore the setup...tonight i thought i would plug it back in for ATC
mircea_popescu: ow crap, now i'm talking to ignored people off the chatlog.
mircea_popescu: theo are you like retarded ? about a dozen people in this room found me just fine wtf.
herbijudlestoids: im on the coinminer.net pool...just detected a new block a few mins ago
herbijudlestoids: jurov: err, goto mpex.co, click on S.MPOE, top of the page is "Monthly statements available here"
herbijudlestoids: theo: lol so basically you required to be spoonfed info which is available on mpex directly
theo: thank you for the links jurov
theo: No herbi maybe i am trying to make a informed opinion on these exchanges based on limited information.
herbijudlestoids: theo: now i get why mircea_popescu is so short...because people are so fucken dumb
theo: Well to be honest i don't think he has done amazingly well what with the securities options someone in a post said that he had to pay out pretty much his whole years profits as people bet on the rising price and he had to pay / she
herbijudlestoids: theo: what i suggest is if you think the existing thing has deficiencies that you can overcome, make your own thing and people will flock to it
jurov: herbijudlestoids: you understood what theo has in mind?
jurov: theo your text was too long, got cut on "wanted charge a additio"
herbijudlestoids: theo: i dont miss any idea. not everyone needs a seat on the exchange. you do not understand the concept of an exchange.
theo: Well i think you do miss some idea. The majority of stocks sold on the exchanges like Dow Jones or Nasdaq are used through brokerages because the majority of people do not have the technical know how on how to use a system or have the time to learn how its used. So if I were making a exchange i would do an idea of both providing one like his, with the ability to be your own brokerage and hence if people wanted charge a additio
herbijudlestoids: hell give you a seat on the exchange for 30BTC
herbijudlestoids: so? the frontend has really nothing to do with it, nor his personal skills
herbijudlestoids: the frontend is irrelevent to the end user and in those cases is absolutely not exposed
herbijudlestoids: MPEX is conceptually equivalent to a large scale exchange on the order of NYSE or CME
theo: Alright thank's :). If i wanted to build a exchange i think i would touch up on it from MPEX or at least the front end lol. And also his personal skills
herbijudlestoids: theo: no specific opinion, tho if i wanted to build an exchange it would look more like mpex and less like havelock
theo: whats your opinion herbi? are you also of the opinion that havelock will crumble and fall? The only reason i have some faith in havelock is there investment of SFI which was able to raise 2 million
herbijudlestoids: theo: there have been some good examples shown iirc, you can trawl the logs if you wish
theo: They just might not have good standards
theo: jurov i think thats a bit backwards as they do have standards. Otherwise they would have a fuck load more IPO as they reject a lot as well.
herbijudlestoids: they list "businesses", MPex prides itself on only listing what it deems to actually have a business model
herbijudlestoids: theo: i think the general perception around here is they are in it for the hype, ergo its unsustainable
theo: I was asking about havelock and MPEX. Why jurov though that havelock would go down like so many of the other security exchanges
theo: And furthering that Mass media is what has driven bitcoin to the point it is. If reddit hadn't started accepting it when they did i betchya we would not be at this point yet