nubbins`: the20year, not just china
the20year: I know that in my brother's case he's been waiting on $20k+ of materials and the new years delayed it
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: called both the 2000 and 2007 top and both 2003 and 2009 bottom (altho he lost out on the 2009 bottom)
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nubbins`: the end of cny?
the20year: I hope the end of CNY helps prices
mircea_popescu: i'd say the man is well within range. that's about where i see it too.
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids "are about double the level that would generate historically adequate long-term returns"
the20year: For what it was, it was pretty effective, granted the US military foray into vietnam in of itself was idocy
mircea_popescu: and they totally won o nthat strategy
the20year: The US did that in vietnam quite a bit, filled enemy bullets with high explosives and let them kill themselves
nubbins`: then you get all his chickens.
the20year: The chemical components are extremely expensive for modern powders and highly controlled, or you could buy a 8lb, or 24lb jug of mixed powder
nubbins`: the20year, that's actually perfect
benkay: no, no. a hand-cranked mill that mills powders into well-mixed other powders.
the20year: Depends benkay, the components are stockpiled by plenty of people, but not everyone has the knowhow to reload, and most shooters dont' trust other people who reload the ammo
nubbins`: is that one of those weird things that doesn't work anymore since the shtf?
mircea_popescu: benkay down the same route : wouldn't the best investment be a large supply of keys to already installed cock cages ?
benkay: if you're really hedging against needing lots of bullets wouldn't it be better to throw down the cash for a milling machine and buy the individual chemical components?
the20year: Most of the guys that I know that stockpile ammo are keeping it in the factory sealed cans. In the US we get quite a bit of warsaw pac stuff that was designed to have 300+ year shelf lifes
mircea_popescu: prolly shoot myself after the first two hours
the20year: Animals i'm sure could be used, but they're not easily transportable.
mircea_popescu: i'd totally want to go hunting with a suppply of bullets that's spent the past three years being handled and knocked around in pockets by 5000 dorks.
mircea_popescu: (fun fact : even at the height at the gold standard, gold was RARELY seen in commerce if at all
nubbins`: was only silver/bronze for the first two
mircea_popescu: not really, man. just wash it in acid, piss in the thing
nubbins`: i think generally five 9s isn't done often because it's not worth the trouble
nubbins`: five 9s is, i think, the record
nubbins`: 99.999% is the best i've ever heard of
ozbot: Gold medal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
nubbins`: 1912, i'd say they were lucky to get three 9s of purity
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i wouldn't go to that hotel, cause im fucking cool, being the olympics.
mod6: If the London 2012 Games medals were made from solid gold, they would cost £25 million to make.
nubbins`: why break down the tables after the boy scouts banquet if the girl guides banquet is tomorrow?
mod6: things that make you go "hmmm." The last Olympic games where medals were made entirely of gold was 1912.
nubbins`: well they do a pants-check
mircea_popescu: why would i want to compete with women w/o my dick ? that's the only reason to even do it
nubbins`: cut your dick off and compete with the women
mod6: http://www.sochi2014.com/en/news-the-sochi-2014-organizing-committee-unveils-olympic-and-paralympic-winter-games-medals
nubbins`: there was a 33yo woman today won a medal in snowboarding
mircea_popescu: other than being too old and too lazy
nubbins`: KRS-One, authentic * is generally pretty good
nubbins`: was it last time that the medals looked like CD-Rs?
mod6: remember when the medals use to be actual gold, silver and copper? at the last olympics they were just 'coated'. this time I've seen gaping holes in the medals.
KRS-One: authenitc mexican food is quite good
mircea_popescu: when you say "human" you say that kind of chimp which domesticated cows and then drank their milk and so on and so forth
mod6: we feed our kids happy meals and grape soda... so there you hvae it.
jurov: except in times where it got its butt kicked by herds from the east (that subsisted almost exclusively on milk)
mircea_popescu: this all aside : it's not unhealthy per se. it's just that the imune system beenfits from the "dirty" that cow milk is.
nubbins`: sure, but that's like saying wheat isn't another species
mircea_popescu: there's a reason europe kicked butt, and that reason has a lot to do with cows
mod6: they dont' count
nubbins`: how about all the places where cow milk isn't really a thing?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` cows are not exactly another species.
mircea_popescu: i guess it's ok if they were breastfed, but anyway
nubbins`: father knows best!
moiety: the cows are smaller apparently
Duffer1: was he not selling it in a bag? that could be the trouble
mircea_popescu: moiety sounds like a shade under ok. they prolly skim a little to make butter or w/e
nubbins`: well that's the rub
mircea_popescu: why not just buy some actual milk and water it down yourself then
nubbins`: and then various creams and blends
mircea_popescu: might take a venti or two in there, not sure.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: it's burnt to char, it all tastes the fucking same
mircea_popescu: well then everyone's happy.
mircea_popescu: i can tell you if the milk is 2% or 2.5% ffs.
nubbins`: start the day off with a nice migraine
nubbins`: the assholes would be secretly given decaf mon-thurs and regular on fridays
nubbins`: there ya go
nubbins`: then one day i had a real cup
nubbins`: some people prefer peaberry because they've been more carefully selected, but.. shrug
nubbins`: this is for no good reason other than some asshole decades ago decided "hey, i'll sell all these peaberries as a tanzanian thing"
mircea_popescu: they're probably peeberries anyway
mircea_popescu: nubbins` that's just the italian spelling
mircea_popescu: or is that the tanzanian toffee
nubbins`: no, that you can only buy peaberry coffee from there
pankkake: I need to find more of the coffee I got at christmas. from tanzania
nubbins`: "i guess this is true... a hypothetical you..."
nubbins`: a hypothetical you
mircea_popescu: but i don't order it in seattle either
nubbins`: so you can go to a starbucks in, say, romania and order the same drink you do in seattle
nubbins`: notably, international starbucks locations all use the same terminology
mircea_popescu: how do they call the police ? "hello officer. vente low fat nutrasour evilguy!!!!" ?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, they pour scalding water on you
nubbins`: but they say "dark or medium"
nubbins`: they actually wonder if you'd like a dark roast or pure carbon
mircea_popescu: i don't think they have one in this town, and likely i wouldn't want to go there anyway
moiety: they probably wouldn't understand pankkake
nubbins`: they ask if you want a dark or medium roast
pankkake: what would happen if I go to there and ask for coffee, black?
nubbins`: “This is exactly why I only order the Blueberry Muffins from Starbucks.” ~ Oscar Wilde
nubbins`: "The Double Ristretto Venti Half-Soy Nonfat Decaf Organic Chocolate Brownie Iced Vanilla Double-Shot Gingerbread Frappuccino Extra Hot With Foam Whipped Cream Upside Down Double Blended, One Sweet'N Low and One Nutrasweet, and Ice is the longest possible order you could order at Starbucks."
pankkake: no alcohol either
nubbins`: mod6, when the average disposable income reached a certain point
moiety: what on earth do they call espressos?
mircea_popescu: mod6 when the us got involved.
nubbins`: short isn't on the menu
nubbins`: mod6, the kiddy cup is a "short"
mod6: yeah, they told me that, and im like thinkin... 'only in starbucks-universe, when someone orders a `tall` they give you a kiddy cup'
moiety: and re coffee: my first thought was what are they serving? there's no licence and it's free, could be anything
mircea_popescu: but the italians don't use ounces
nubbins`: fwiw these are seriously drinks you can order
mod6: speaking of starbucks.. i hardly ever go there. but the other day i was like, "hi, tall black coffee plz." then they served me the kiddy cup. im like "wtf!?"
mircea_popescu: wait wait. so basically... they want to be me, except with something small that they can understand. it's not "build me a thing so and so and back and forth", which is what execs do all day.
pankkake: otherwise it can't be cool
nubbins`: pankkake, the feeling of power than one gets from having a very long-winded, very specific drink order plays a part in this too
mircea_popescu: "Despite the popularity, customers seemed confused about what exactly was going on."
nubbins`: tastes like shit for reasons which many obstinately ignore, but that's another discussion
nubbins`: FWIW, starbucks regular drip coffee isn't any more expensive than any other coffee shop
mircea_popescu: pankkake it's service, right ? the value of a cup of coffee in and of itself is ~zero
mircea_popescu: who the fuck saves for a cup of coffee
mircea_popescu: who the fuck waits an hour for a cup of coffee
mod6: cleaned it up a bit. better rate if someone has mpex account and can receive btc through there.
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moiety: [71.43 think i will stop there.] ty, this is a good example
mircea_popescu: they're famous for allowing computers to fool humans.
mircea_popescu: the "brain" involved is an application of markov chains.
mircea_popescu: if you must have the negative reinforcement just do humiliation,
moiety: kk if you don't hear back from me, i jumped out the window at a 1% score
moiety: i had started a discussion point bot, to give people things to talk about so i didn't have to drag them through daily conversation so much
mircea_popescu: irc bots are not that hard, you just get a supybot to run and then learn to tweak it
moiety: there is a creepy man version ken .. whats minus bait?! http://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Justin_Jedlica_Human_Ken_doll.jpg
moiety: of course she doesn't, she's been too busy locked in her room piling on the makeup or in a hospital ward!
moiety: mircea_popescu: nah, can't be over 30. I'm thinking she is protecting future guesses down the line
mircea_popescu: see ? you gotta rub the clit a little.
KRS-One: if you are a man and have some ribs removed you can give yourself oral..so the story goes.
mircea_popescu: it's not such a rare body type for white eastern girls. pretty much the true caucasian type.
mircea_popescu: o the tiraspol chick
moiety: so you don't want me to give Valeria Lukyanova a call then mircea_popescu?
mircea_popescu: post averted, i was just about to publish a rant about how they jus' don
mircea_popescu: davout i guess you're right, a large part of the problem was semantical anyway
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell Jere_Jones now is the time when you go "o hello assets, you were right, i was wrong, thank you for advising me even if i was too clueless to understand you know much better than me"
davout: or just the average woman?
davout: does it claims it represents the average *20* woman ?
mircea_popescu: barbie is about 20. the average twenty year old is not built like a flatbed truck
mircea_popescu: i dunno in what shitty country that's the average woman srsly.
moiety: aussi: http://www.brainwreck.com/lists/792/15-Questionable-Drawings-Found-In-Children-s-Textbooks-These-Students-Were-Obviously-Bored-In-Class/1
ozbot: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It
mircea_popescu: even if the french don't.
mircea_popescu: that's the french kiss
mircea_popescu: Ħ << this is the french capital H.
mircea_popescu: and then a few hours later you find dry earth in your hair and get all wtf
davout: that's what you hear all day on the radio, "blah blah blah economy shitty, blah blah, but hey, french touch!"
mircea_popescu: what, the plague ?
davout: who cares, we have the "french-touch"
mircea_popescu: i guess the french don't have assets
mircea_popescu: i checked it for good measure but no one there.
davout: mircea_popescu: just keep the same suit
taub: way out of the loop with bitcoin stuff
ThickAsThieves: do that on a day the media ends up in here
KRS-One: yeh try another build environment
mircea_popescu: maybe drop the accents.
mircea_popescu: no because then what banking
KRS-One: Each user should have a wallet that only they can access.
KRS-One: If all security and fraud employees have access to drain the accounts that means everyone potentially has access..am I wrong?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=443108.msg5040231#msg5040231 << the answer, of course, is "because i am 12 and wat is dis"
punkman: these logs are forever
punkman: I'm just adding to the history archives
KRS-One: They can speel really well too.. "Close Buisness Button"
mircea_popescu: punkman just meant we have already been wtf-ing at the exac tquote for like 20 seconds
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves sounds like they also invented pantyhose.
ThickAsThieves: if ur bild they r come
mircea_popescu: punkman you're like from the 70s daddy-o :D
ThickAsThieves: Nothing is 100% secure. For this reason we bild our systems in layers preventing attackers from accessing data even if they are able penetrate a system."
davout: mircea_popescu: they'll fix it shortly
ThickAsThieves: "All security and fraud employees have access to immediately begin cold-storage draining of all accounts to cooresponding offline wallets to prevent any further loss of funds. "
mircea_popescu: a. i bet you they don't whip them nearly enough and b. why the fuck aren't they doing this to white kids already.
mircea_popescu: why are children allowed out of the mines again ?
mircea_popescu: for the love of odesk already
punkman: if you would please scroll down to "Close Buisness Button" on thebcbank.com
jurov: maybe i said it already but still, how will the OS work in 50 years?
mircea_popescu: i rue the day i'll end up in a car filled with buttons labeled conveniently "easy" "simple" "fun" etc for my convenience.
punkman: related: http://thebcbank.com/
ThickAsThieves: okay so what signal is it that the forum is starting to like her too?
mircea_popescu: . If it's not immediately clear to you why citizen banking is a bad idea in general, I'd suggest paying the first person you can find who can draw a flow chart of themselves, your torso, and a scalpel to perform heart surgery on you; on the off-chance you survive, the recovery time'd make for good reconsidering.
mircea_popescu: these fuckwits jesus christ. HI GUISE I R BANK H3
mircea_popescu: you have significant atc holdings and the ability to make deliveries ?
mircea_popescu: you know someone in the thread was making an offer iirc ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves what's the hurry anyway.
jurov: when mpex start accepting altcoins, then yes
mircea_popescu: http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20140117-907989.html <<< look! benton capital was IN THE PRESS
punkman: half my neighbours squatted on the land with shitty little houses, until they got a proper title and sold off to someone that could build an apartment building
ThickAsThieves: we should make a fake press release from the bitcoin foundation saying Bitcoin Files Secretly Files for IPO, after we buy a bunch of https://www.google.com/finance?q=BTC&ei=jef3UrjDG8PcsQe6hQE
mircea_popescu: if somehow the entire neighbourhood goes into theft nobody complains about how the rich stoled it anymore. because fundamentally everyman's objection isn't that someone's rich
mircea_popescu: much like the entire "my neighbour is rich clearly he stole it"
mircea_popescu: now that joe q random can happily make his own crypto-ponzi, nobody says the word anymore.
mircea_popescu: funny thing too : back before the alt explosion, the #1 "criticism" the general public had was "bitcoin is a ponzi"
punkman: satoshi is just waiting for the right moment
mircea_popescu: like the past week, right ? it lost like 30% of value and now... it stopped.
punkman: Mouser one the other hand is kinda nice, "You have purchased the following part number(s) from Mouser Electronics within the last two years. The manufacturer has published a Product Change Notice. Please click on manufacturer part number to view product details and similar products for replacements."
punkman: Alibaba is such a shithole. Every other day they send me this useless email "Shop the best deals & discounted items!!!!11lol!!"
Namworld: Eventually become the first specimen.
mircea_popescu: unless it;s mismanagement (there are in egypt some towns developed but never occupied say)
ThickAsThieves: this topic should be elaborated upon further
mircea_popescu: right. check out the litany of abandoned mining towns all through ca, az, nm etc
Namworld: If it's ghost enough, there won't be squatters, simply because there won't be food supplied to the area, because no shops open.
mircea_popescu: they may not be very big, maybe a square mile or two, but still
mircea_popescu: actually, california and generally the us west is littered in 100% abandoned towns
Namworld: Cairo has the same issue as China.
Namworld: I need a ghost modern city I won't have to take a plane accross the oceans to see in China.
davout: weren't they supposed to be bankrupt?
benkay: you won't catch me in detroit any time soon. the only dystopian megalopolis i'm interested in is buenos aires.
davout: i watched the original one a week ago, it is amazing, the haircuts, the glasses, the music everything
benkay: i love how american movies are 90% animated these days. actual actors must just be too damn expensive or the profit margins just darn slim.
mircea_popescu: no wait wait, i'm getting the credit. it was mine. kakobrekla just implemented it badly.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well the same stupid idea from last year that came out of that scamsite betsofbitco.in as well.
KRS-One: but who knows, never tried the stuff.
davout: but i guess the point is to be aware of what happens not shut everything off
BingoBoingo: Oh, the violence against math guy updated his locked BitBet thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=431273.0;topicseen
KRS-One: davout: the combination