benkay: BingoBoingo: why some insane algol derivative and not a lisp?
benkay: "trust"
benkay: nice air quotes
benkay: outsourced person to do conference show-upping?
benkay: ah.
benkay: mircea_popescu: what is the listing fee?
benkay: thanks TomServo.
benkay: that's it.
benkay: what's alt-hopping pool of auto-cashing-out-in-btc repute?
benkay: yolo!
benkay: the audience is tractable.
benkay: !t m s.nsa
benkay: ;)
benkay: mktcap
benkay: doge > litecoin by the end of q1 2014
benkay: so tapering is a go for the states
benkay: what abv?
benkay: must be thoroughly mixed with truth for maximum lulz
benkay: mircea_popescu facts
benkay: or even better have their patches to the original client reviewed by his crack squad of c she-coders
benkay: at 1b/coin he will hog-tie the entire dev team and make them watch unspeakable horrors
benkay: at 1m/coin, he will bathe in virgins lactation while taking their virginity six in a session
benkay: bitcoin satan is invincible
benkay: i'm just saying
benkay: i recall something about an entire litre of grain alcohol?
benkay: mircea_popescu is unsurpressable regardless of his psych status
benkay: actually that does bring up a good point: the difference between psychotic and psychopathic
benkay: freedom
benkay: it's not simply los estados unidos, however, it's the entire fiat system. usg simply sits atop it for the meantime.
benkay: state department ordered just means that someone in the state department decided she needed a fist up the pooper.
benkay: nobody's getting their head chopped off in that case.
benkay: who's going to get exterminated, mp?
benkay: security apparatus recruitment pitch: "meet strange new people! put your hand up their butts!"
benkay: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/18/world/asia/outrage-in-india-over-female-diplomats-arrest-in-new-york.html?src=recg&_r=0
benkay: but now it's MRRRNSTRRRRM.
benkay: genesis block must be at least not be rotting on the floor stinking of irrelevancy.
benkay: meme:silver::drama:gold
benkay: and must read it another 5 for penance.
benkay: apparently i had to read that post 5 times before it made sense in context.
benkay: your lessons as always appreciated.
benkay: some get their goods at an acceptable rate and delivered on an acceptable time, making money etc. this drives others in who make less excellent ops decisions, ruining margin.
benkay: or even ever, as a part of the thing?
benkay: nubbins`: but rational market participants won't buy if their investment never returns, so how does unprofitable mining work forever?
benkay: mircea_popescu: yeah but fail to draw the dots
benkay: bitcoin*
benkay: mircea_popescu: how does mining being unprofitable make bitcoing work?
benkay: yeah i don't quite understand that, mircea_popescu.
benkay: and people wonder why mining is unprofitable.
benkay: arguing is all -assets does, xoinfinityox ;)
benkay: well by the time one waits for confirmation of a fact the market has long since priced it in typically
benkay: no, they are playing the game. you were making some sort of claim about their goals vis-a-vis sketchiness.
benkay: why would any competent actor in the scenario disclose targets goals strategies or philosophies!?
benkay: wherein you derive some small benefit from knowing what i plan to do and the motivations behind it
benkay: we sit down to a poker game
benkay: let's play a thought game
benkay: i kid..
benkay: bafflement and confusion? inability to comprehend relevance of statement?
benkay: much like walmart does not hate women and want to prevent them from earning dollar parity with men, the .75/1.00 ratio is the accumulation of many individual's decisions
benkay: the great all seeing eye of USG mk. IV will not of its own make any decisions.
benkay: depends far more on involved individuals.
benkay: unless anyone with any real power is behind it.
benkay: unless any bureau with acceptable operational financing is doing it.
benkay: unless the pentagon's doing it.
benkay: hah nevermind.
benkay: ;;gettrust toffo
benkay: ;;gettrust toffoo
benkay: didn't your name once only have one trailing 'o', toffoo?
benkay: nah. 10m/block is fine
benkay: what's more important is their unifying theme of irrelevance.
benkay: that has to have been a painful exercise.
benkay: *elbow elbow*
benkay: don't go overboard with the sycophancy now BingoBoingo
benkay: BingoBoingo: it doesn't look like they use localbitcoins. i wonder if that's even an option for them.
benkay: ;;ticker --market btcavg
benkay: agog is what i am
benkay: trading rally is categorized as an event/development which will absorb funds to bring about
benkay: so 7c *wants* to revive Stock Generation?
benkay: daww
benkay: ;;market --ticker eurbtc
benkay: amazing eu-ture
benkay: sounds like an emotional decision.
benkay: see?
benkay: go earn thy keep, programmer.
benkay: data is there
benkay: welcome to the mpex apis
benkay: so i wrote some options on options so you can leverage while you leverage
benkay: yo dawg i herd u liek risk
benkay: options on x.eur ;)
benkay: ;;ticker --market btcavg
benkay: much coin
benkay: nice
benkay: ;;ticker
benkay: sheeeeeeit.
benkay: cardano
benkay: what is the cpu, asciilifeform?
benkay: there are lots of stupid people out there who are always going to make shitty code
benkay: BingoBoingo: do you know? can you recite the ballad of how computers got wholly fucked?
benkay: anyways. i don't really understand these tools yet but i suspect something went horribly horribly wrong at some point before i was born.
benkay: more importantly than loper os is a history of "why compute am broek: a histree"
benkay: how did we get here?
benkay: asciilifeform: i attended a talk on a google product this evening (that strongly resembles javascript but isn't in some not so subtle ways) and when i asked the presenter about managing different versions of libs on one computer was told that such was just never considered as a use case.
benkay: can't tell if derp or sarcasm
benkay: "the operators of bitcoin" oh my lols
benkay: hella spreaaaad
benkay: davout i think is obligated to maintain a spread
benkay: well someone
benkay: i see davout is now posting bids and asks ;)
benkay: !l m s.nsa
benkay: thanks kakobrekla
benkay: !t mpex nsa
benkay: !t mpex snsa
benkay: !t m snsa
benkay: !h
benkay: !t m nsa
benkay: can't see why i would
benkay: (el oh el forwarding a snatch)
benkay: o hey mind forwarding your snatch?
benkay: but maybe one day i'll have written a few gpg contracts and can write guidelines for stuff
benkay: nah jurov i'm just wrong about stuff
benkay: well i'll be damned
benkay: specifically for MPOE/MPEx, wherein it's laid out that bond deposits must be greater than 100 BTC - what is our overlord's process for updating these contracts to reflect the reality of 50 BTC bond deposits, and how would our overlord advise future contract writers to behave when making similar modifications?
benkay: so these gpg contracts
benkay: that'd be one of the reasons i bailed on the semiconductor space
benkay: i love the documents nobody will ever read
benkay: what document, dub?
benkay: scam
benkay: no doge on mcxnow
benkay: your prose does have the vitriol of not-totally-bleached youth ;)
benkay: i'm a near total neophyte to the execution of code and the things upon which they execute, so your grumpy old man attitude is fascinating to keep in mind while coming up to speed on the rest of the stack.
benkay: first i'd ever encountered the notion of dataflow stuff
benkay: odd synchrony.
benkay: asciilifeform: i dreamt about a dataflow soup (using biocomputing elements) last night and then read your Alert Reader post this morning.
benkay: is this the layer on top of the credit card processing system thing?
benkay: ah so you object to urbit's low-level immutability
benkay: asciilifeform: doesn't shitty code that gets hardware deployed against its performance problems carry more responsibility for that?
benkay: asciilifeform: doesn't immutability also help averagely-talented software teams operate in highly threaded environments?
benkay: asciilifeform: why is that? do forgive my complete ignorance of the domain...
benkay: BingoBoingo: babes have arrived, i'll grill ya later
benkay: the20year1: what on earth do you mean by 'tie a new altcoin to btc addresses'?
benkay: granted i don't know anything about anything, and there's the whole keyboard and display thing to deal with
benkay: BingoBoingo: i don't know that i buy asciilifeform's ball-o-mud argument on urbit yet. given enough traction wouldn't it make sense to rewrite the important bits for fpgas or what have we?
benkay: or mpex
benkay: not as bad as ur moms
benkay: i think it's a stunt to drive business for http://www.designinghypermediaapis.com/ butttttt i may be wrong
benkay: many noob
benkay: 2 satoshi spread
benkay: doge forever
benkay: so pump
benkay: to the doge
benkay: random block rewards
benkay: it gets better
benkay: almost as odd as physical bitcoins, eh?
benkay: ^^
benkay: dub: broken hao?
benkay: why new wot?
benkay: oh joy pneumonic.
benkay: ;;ticker --market bitstamp
benkay: ;;ticker --market --btcavg
benkay: ;;market
benkay: "complete electronic redesign of the past 25 years"
benkay: asciilifeform: u crazy man
benkay: pretty sure gribble ain't around today mang
benkay: so happy to have you on the case, asciilifeform
benkay: why not?
benkay: super. standalone?
benkay: how's the cardano coming along?
benkay: .d
benkay: whoa also where did gribble go?
benkay: ;;ticker
benkay: not an asset? semantics or...
benkay: announced*
benkay: hey options trades aren't announce in here?
benkay: it's over 9000!
benkay: ya well one should have ones own copy of the blockchain let's be real here
benkay: much engineer
benkay: much sorcery
benkay: so quantum
benkay: bitcoin runs on derp
benkay: yes but derp
benkay: it was either that or find themselves seriously in the hole ten years from now due to not actually buying the underlying.
benkay: daha
benkay: and assume straight line bolt trajectory?
benkay: asciilifeform: but on a turret and with some ml
benkay: constructs a 3d model of its environment and self trains to put a bolt through any xyz triple
benkay: mircea_popescu: how about a robo-crossbow?
benkay: generally. sales is kinda high-touch it turns out!
benkay: the biz network that i leverage for work is in the us
benkay: mircea_popescu: i don't have the luxury to let my money make more money
benkay: mircea_popescu: i'm trying to suck as much fiat into btc with overpriced us programmery hours as i can
benkay: mircea_popescu: i strongly suspect i won't have time to get out of the country.
benkay: wat dooooo
benkay: man i'm trying to make shit-hitting-the-fan hedges but i think that even small towns that are nominally self-sufficient in this country are so tightly coupled to the rest of the country that they'll devolve into chaos too
benkay: wait how does that work you have to experience so much modern man in those urban areas
benkay: praises be!
benkay: all hail!
benkay: Bugpowder: link plox
benkay: might engender a liquid market
benkay: can't be having those precious metals floating around
benkay: a real millionaire would spend it all exhibiting the wealth, right?
benkay: oh it's great i'm sure for mike and btc and everything except the whole idiots problem.
benkay: "are you seriously displaying private keys in public?!"
benkay: had to reprimand someone giving out printed wallets at a local btc event.
benkay: i suppose, at the cost of perpetuating idiot opsec.
benkay: on the topic of greater fool theory, the fundamental principle underlying these physical coins and the entire fartup circuit
benkay: posesser of the keys is posesser of the goods
benkay: or trying to sell an MPEx account
benkay: it's like trading wallets
benkay: giving bitcoins this way is just the most goddamn stupid idea
benkay: lel
benkay: analog bitcoins
benkay`: chill v
benkay`: i know
benkay`: ;;ud ringit
benkay: ;;ticker --market btcavg
benkay: hold up i gotta tender some cock
benkay: penis tendered!
benkay: i am a convince.
benkay: yes but xbows
benkay: i am more convinced than i was an hour ago on the printable guns thing
benkay: all this fighting talk is causing thoughts of chumpatrons based on armor and weapons
benkay: dahaha
benkay: amlar?
benkay: that's not the use case though. the use case is shitty guns for poor people in the decaying soviet states of america
benkay: can you armor the entire ghetto block squad?
benkay: how so obsolete?
benkay: the gutters are full of humans eager to test the 20 dollar disposable firearm.
benkay: preach about the plastic gun, asciilifeform
benkay: just enough time to become baseline competent but not anywhere near good.
benkay: i start over on a new domain every four years, i think.
benkay: ^^
benkay: asciilifeform: yes, that is a casting process.
benkay: but man the ludicrous shit those poor companies struggling under the fda have to deal with
benkay: and the impossible-to-machine rib-holding-together-hardware, nubbins`
benkay: obviously takes some tweaking, but totally feasible.
benkay: your metals just burn the plastic out of the casting
benkay: if you pour metals 3d printers are the bomb for casting
benkay: "designers", then.
benkay: unfortunately most designers can only gui and so we have pdf. huzzah.
benkay: MPEx: honeypot.
benkay: who's the NSA stooge in -assets?
benkay: then some new poor soul gets hired on to the team, can't figure out why no 'work' is happening and starts writing reports.
benkay: their superiors look at the proposal and say "sure. nice distraction."
benkay: i find that the more plausible story.
benkay: that's what i meant.
benkay: >.<
benkay: nubbins`: there was something making the rounds about spies spying on spies in SL.