benkay: honestly rather glad i was traveling.
moiety: someone found an exploit and abused the fuck out of it. they actually were honest and paid back but someone else witnessed it and weren't so honest. generated a huge fake balance which they tipped out. emptying our wallet.
benkay: the BSc in Immunology might not be a bad place to start, bitcoinpete
LordPutin: but what if i dont remember the password?
benkay: hey moiety troll all the freaked out webwallet users with me
bitcoinpete: lordputin: did you set up email back-ups? either way, bc.info will be back eventually and then you can move 99% of those coins somewhere safer. http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/on-making-high-entropy-bitcoin-paper-wallets/
LordPutin: justbeen using it on the app and it keeps asking me to enter password
bitcoinpete: written an hour ago. and they're down again.
bitcoinpete: "Blockchain’s design is based on the principle of giving users 100% control of their funds. We don’t hold your keys and we don’t hold you hostage. You are your own bank." via https://blog.blockchain.com/2014/03/18/blockchain-services-fully-restored/
benkay: you might be able to troll the blockchain.info operators into putting 100B on "we totes have your butts"
LordPutin: anyone ableto log into the blockchain wallet atm?
benkay: their authors generate epic backlogs of work (some of them) and the fans are slavish fans who will pay for anything
ozbot: Pilots hit by 'nearly blinding' glare from solar facility | The Daily Caller
chetty: recall the talk about pilots and lasers? check this out
mircea_popescu: this is what reporting is made out of, after all. burning the shoe rubber all day.
mircea_popescu: i suppose if you're very bored you can hunt them all down and ask them, either on irc, via forum pms or w/e.
BingoBoingo: I wonder if there is a way to get the reaction from those exchange shareholder on welfare. If only there were a log like that of their reactions to be leaked.
mircea_popescu: most of them are gone anyway.
BingoBoingo: I wonder how many of the Old GLBSE tards are familiar with this latest SEC email exchange? How hurt are the butts that saw Nefario just up and quit?
mircea_popescu: in general because old men fear shameless hussies as the likely agents of young alpha males, which is how you say "evil" for old people.
BingoBoingo: Sentence seems like someone who probably was just weeks ago glorifying the extremes of human performance on display at the olympics. Why the double standard for vaginal performance?
mircea_popescu: "The worship appears mutual, and watching Wetern media worship a bunch of nobodys whose idea of public art is going into supermarkets and stuffing frozen chickens in their vaginas (Pussy Riot, that is) provides much-needed comic relief."
mircea_popescu: just like the people who imagine that if they spend a lot of time editing wikipedia they are now qualified to whatever, direct research spending i guess.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like the people who imagine that if they spend a lot of time adding code on github they are now decident factors in the future of the world,
mircea_popescu: the sort that figures that by spending an inordinate amount of time derping on the internet he has now amassed credibility and importance and should be taken seriously.
mircea_popescu: this particular guy seems more like the armchair general type.
BingoBoingo: All this butthurt over the fact they couldn't identify operators willing to continue indefinitely instead of collapsing at the first sign of opposition
mircea_popescu: "o i had imagined i am important whai is it the case nobody cares"
ozbot: Interacting with fiat institutions [such as the SEC], a guide
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe someone is playing with themselves and hoping to trap someone when they break pattern?
mircea_popescu: and the supply of actual men is so tight... so, so tight...
mircea_popescu: but they do prefer an actual man.
mircea_popescu: the irony here being that women do not in fact object to being quite literally enslaved,
mircea_popescu: okcjosh when i ask you to be specific i mean about the contracts you're discussing.
Shakespeare: i see them being all one
okcjosh: will it pay off? Right now a may GHS is around 33% the price of a live GHS. Does buying 3 times as many GHS for may have a good chance of paying out more, based on estimated Diff increase?
mircea_popescu: Shakespeare people often misrepresent their boredom and pointlessness as "discontent"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i heartily recommend having the kids in egypt.
asciilifeform: (elsewhere, $0, but it's academic to the afflicted)
asciilifeform: at least in the 'white zone'
mircea_popescu: human female is really built for primiparity around the age of 18
mircea_popescu: Shakespeare my mother had me at 21, which was a reasonable time to have a kid at the time, towards the end of one's secondary studies.
Shakespeare: the line i feel the most, in the whole thing, is this: "If you can do anything it’ll be hard actually doing anything."
mircea_popescu: i dun believe it, tbh. they're "concerned" about gay rights for much simpler reasons,
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see your piece on the forcible prevention of 'school bully'
mircea_popescu does the ny hand jewsture.
asciilifeform: this is a parsimonious hypothesis to explain american 'concern' for certain 'oppressed groups' worldwide
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im not sure i follow the implication here.
asciilifeform: (s/bitch/пидор for the linguistically non-challenged)
asciilifeform: thereby sitting him under domination of bitches
mircea_popescu: one may discuss pedophilia either as an actual professional, having gone to proper school for it
asciilifeform: standard, ages-old algorithm. if you want to lower someone into bitchdom, take those he has himself lowered and forcibly lift them
Shakespeare: "Gardens of the Night (a 2008, also with John Malkovichiv) is yet another installment in that man’s awesome, ruefully complete, atrociously honest, blithely limpid discussion of the divine cunt. "
chetty: don't confuse anti-gay with protect marriage - the roman gay still married and had children
asciilifeform: 'no idea why they'd be anti gay' << same reason as in russia, as described by mr. o - 'As Prof. Cohen recently pointed out, prior to Americans' gay rights agitation, Russian gays used to be called faggots; now they are being called American faggots, and gay rights in Russia have taken a giant leap back.'
mircea_popescu: what men do to each other does not matter in any sense.
mircea_popescu: the romans were very openly pro-gay and worked just fine.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why they'd be anti gay.
mircea_popescu: but why stupid this way rather than that still needs to be explained.
mircea_popescu: stupid they may well be.
Shakespeare: this certainly adds much-needed depth to their behavior
asciilifeform: 'intellectual root of conservative americans' concerns mainly the rust on their truck mufflers.
mircea_popescu: it's an unclear intuition in their turbid heads of something that's factually there.
Shakespeare: and this whole perspective is more likely the more intellectual root of conservative americans concerns for the sancitity of the family?
mircea_popescu: while the economy is in fact wholly controlled by matriarchs, nevertheless they have no legal rights.
Shakespeare: i do suppose the nature of male is still quite that it would seek to dominate
chetty: pass a law that the wind can not blow?
Shakespeare: because they wouldnt care to
mircea_popescu: but they wouldn't.
mircea_popescu: what if i knew what the words you use mean.
Shakespeare: what if the women become self-aware in this way
asciilifeform: people told 'female police force' picture 'ilsa, she-wolf of auschwitz' rather than the more likely office plankton girl next door stuffed into a uniform.
mircea_popescu: these aren't negotiable, in any manner.
mircea_popescu: a society where women have a say in their reproductive history will produce a finite number of generations.
mircea_popescu: Shakespeare yes. a democracy can never produce art. give the plebs the vote, you've ended painting, and music.
Shakespeare: is your text also implying that a society which gives women fair play in the economy, ie females CEOs, equal pay, etc, is doomed the same?
asciilifeform: they had serious problems with, at one point, mostly female police force in certain places
mircea_popescu: the answer my friend (as you well know) is that feminism is not a theory, nor science, but a marketing ploy.
chetty: no its not, the roles are part of biology
asciilifeform: with the burly steamroller driving girls
asciilifeform: i often wonder why u.s. 'feminists' don't parade the most remarkable 'equality' freak show - post-war ussr
mircea_popescu: well sure, that's the end of it. "could a planet exist with aqueous atmosphere and oceans of air ?"
Shakespeare: well men doing the rearing
Shakespeare: women doing the work
mircea_popescu: not unless by "men" you understand "they with vaginas and pregnancies"
chetty: society can not fight mother nature
Shakespeare: men being the "women"
Shakespeare: could a population thrive where the role is reversed?
BingoBoingo: The bitcoinpete link is fixed
mircea_popescu: precisely what the most serene republic amply posessed and widely employed.
mircea_popescu: usually known as the power of fuck you.
asciilifeform: chetty: u.s. 'reservations' as they presently exist aren't the least bit 'extraterritorial' - they've been busted open for something as mundane as 'war on drugs' in the past.
chetty: asciilifeform: you mean the 'reservations'?
mircea_popescu: in it, the father teaches his pubescent daughter the difference between "us" and "those people" as a matter of course,
asciilifeform: i'm waiting for the extraterritoriality zones in the u.s., where folks are permitted to behave like human beings
asciilifeform: the turks, if i recall, took this to a high art
mircea_popescu: they have this special immunity thing, they don't have to as long as they stay in the "foreigner" zone
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you definitely can, iran is more deeply split than the ukraine.
asciilifeform: it'd be like liberating constantinople from the turks
asciilifeform: not sure if you could, at this point, 'separate the flies from the cutlets' (to use the rus. expression)
mircea_popescu: (which does not map on iran at all, and which actually in the future may be the engine that liberates the poor persians from the smelly arab invaders)
mircea_popescu: afaik the russian inteligentsia of today is developing quite a crush on persian cultural achievements.
asciilifeform: english gentleman, afaik, wasn't expected to bother with translations, but to go out and learn languages
asciilifeform: 'i gave the fool an ax, to fetch some kindling sticks; and to the mosque he went, and smashed the door to bits.' (persian, bad double-translation from rus. mine)
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mircea_popescu: somehow stacey asks the same.
mircea_popescu: that's the genius of it :D
asciilifeform: i picture this hypothetical device as being a kind of topologically reverse version of the 'milking machine' japan recently became famous for.
asciilifeform: damn, thought that was the post where you described automatic 'public impregnators' for japan
mircea_popescu: Shakespeare http://trilema.com/2013/the-divine-cunt/
nubbins`: $75 to get a thermometer stuck up Pinki's ass last week
Shakespeare: so they all eat duck
mircea_popescu: not to mention the shit trays and medical inspections.
mircea_popescu: people ABUSE their pets...
asciilifeform: (where you will find, for instance, khat - and possibly other forbidden flora)
nubbins`: it makes the food healthier? ;(
asciilifeform: if catnip worked on man like it does on cat, i doubt it would be permitted even in the u.s. botanical garden.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` no. this was chiefly a us phenomenon. the us at the time was poor and lazy, so most of their flatware was made of lead.
nubbins`: i figured it was because it's from the nightshade family
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i kept proposing people to make catnip illegal in the us
asciilifeform: a plant toxin the eater can't 'deal with' is poison, or drug, depending on dose and aesthetics
mircea_popescu: nubbins` that was due to the lead.
nubbins`: altho TBH people thought tomatoes were bad for people until what, the 1800s?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah. but also a lot of variation there.
Shakespeare: tears through the bag if left unattended
Shakespeare: another cat loves wheat bread
asciilifeform: the beast isn't really built to deal with plant toxins
mircea_popescu: some dogs love chocolate. some other dogs can die spontaneously from it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's a lot of metabolic diversity under this "all humans are humans" misguided perception. and it isn't limited to this species, either.
asciilifeform: 'normal' phenotype doesn't really get to smell the gasoline, he goes 'aargh' from his nose dissolving a little
Shakespeare: but there's some interest when i do
mircea_popescu: their liver is just not too happy with the prospect of having to cope with that load.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what i read suggested it's the presence of particular enzimatic pathways
mircea_popescu: so there yo ugo. you're a winner.
Shakespeare: i like the smell of gasoline
mircea_popescu: (ie, gasoline smells good to them)
mircea_popescu: it may actually be genetic. about 18% or so of the population finds various aromatic hydrocarbons... aromatic.
asciilifeform: by some accounts, we have the u.s. newspapers (circa '50s-60s) to thank for the popularity of this practice.
mircea_popescu: huffing toluene/whatever other solvents is not that geograpghically concentrated
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Shakespeare: but all the kids seemed to be escaping alcoholic dads
Shakespeare: is that still how it is in the subway?
nubbins`: "why are smart people disinclined to put their lives and plans on hold for decades and hit a generational reset button?"
asciilifeform: the anglos have fucked up even sperm donation
mircea_popescu: do youwant me to dig up my article on the topic ?
nubbins`: because they know better
mircea_popescu: what does worry me is that out of the stupidities emitted every day, said sphere leisurely owns 99.x%
asciilifeform: afaik this is not a controversial position outside of the weird anglo nature preserve.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform more open minded, in this context, is for instance considering the point that a severe beating is liable to be at least as effective an educational tool as speech.
mircea_popescu: hence the dry beans.
Shakespeare: but you can see how the first statement morphed with each of my rebuttals
mircea_popescu: well i agree, they should be more open minded.
Shakespeare: i explained there is a scienctific process
Shakespeare: she just thinks they need to be more open-minded
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller april 18-20
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: is the conference in may not april?
mircea_popescu: so what's her alternative pet theory ?
Shakespeare: i explained that just because they say evolution is fact, doesnt mean they exclude all other possible influence
mircea_popescu: this woman would chew on her own liver if she ever read these logs wouldn't she.
mircea_popescu: lmao so i made hotel reservations today, which they confirmed in triplicate, and the girl eager to impress both her boss and his mysterious business partner guy of numerous hermetic grandeurs (ie, me) broke out the special character set : "doublé rooms" she says.
nubbins`: too bad you only paid for the draft sketches :\
Shakespeare: my wife is pissed at me because i said people dont pasteurize chemicals and i wasnt polite enough (being wrong wasnt even the issue, as she was talking about apple cider vinegar, and i was talkign about acetic acid)
thestringpuller: travel isn't bad these days
mircea_popescu: bloctoc if you have the fiat collateral to post im pretty sure you'll find some. you can prolly even ask coinbase.
benkay: i'll be watching the logs
thestringpuller: Timosora Germany Amsterdam then back home for under 3 btc
benkay: anyways, off to troll the local yokels about their inadequate security and absurd obeisance to the tyrant
mircea_popescu: benkay that blockchain thing actually soiunds like a good idea. i can't believe they're past the 24h mark.
asciilifeform: they are thought to dissipate turbulence or somesuch
asciilifeform: whose purpose is unclear, but if removed, the insect won't fly.
mircea_popescu: im sure that according to the fly's own onboard instrumentation, its flight is quiet.
asciilifeform: i vaguely recall that the buzz isn't from the wings proper, but from little quasi-vestigial winglets
asciilifeform: better example, buzz of the fly
mircea_popescu: they gotta fuck
asciilifeform: who was 'pravda' for? not every squeal that comes out of an idiot is intended to communicate - even to deceive. sometimes, it's just the croaking of frogs.
mircea_popescu: "The Piraeus bond deal underscores..."
mircea_popescu: who ? do you even read the log!
mircea_popescu: it's like... nobody ever puts in a derp order that goes unfilled by the derpgods ?
asciilifeform: the one inexhaustible natural resource.
mircea_popescu: how can there be so much derp available ?
mircea_popescu: The current digital currency narrative, while certainly attractive to entrepreneurs, venture capital, and the media, is extremely "First World" in nature. And a primary question remains -- do such innovations, as we know them today, address the needs of consumers and businesses on both sides of an international transaction?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller that's in like late april.
Shakespeare: kick the can, it's barely got a dent!
Shakespeare: that's the idea right?
Shakespeare: maybe if they all trade bonds for bonds enough between countries, all the debt will go away
mircea_popescu: i'll tell you who. all the people with worthless cash.
Shakespeare: who the hell wants greek bonds
mircea_popescu: dude fucking bubble from hell they're inflating.
mircea_popescu: "The Piraeus bond deal underscores both the continued improvement in the perception of Greeces economy as well as the flood of cash in the financial system that has depressed returns on debt of all stripes."
thestringpuller: no the MPEx conference in April
mircea_popescu: that's ok, once they reach a level where they can be helped they'll make their way here.
thestringpuller: i have to be in germany at the end of march
Shakespeare: he'll be there too
thestringpuller: conference is what ont the 20th?
mircea_popescu: o, the forum one. ok ok
Shakespeare: Santori is the "bitcoin lawyer"
asciilifeform: the fellow he pays to take photos of him hugging (or, occasionally, shooting and stuffing) large fauna are analogous to the pr.
Shakespeare: mp will you pay for my ticket from Romania to Amsterdam to go to the Bitcoin 2014 conference and call out Jon Matonis with a crowd present?
mircea_popescu: this is the problem with large organisations and old people, they aren't in touch with the kids anymore, dunno how to really hurt them.
asciilifeform: putin's position with respect to the u.s. is roughly similar to mpex vs. the btc wankiverse
Shakespeare: basically seens as the cuddly mobster with a beach bod
mircea_popescu: putin should come out of the closet as a furry or something, just to troll reddit.
Shakespeare: I do repent the tedious minutes I with her have spent
Shakespeare: did you see that ad i linked to with the girl jiggling her butt?
Shakespeare: He's rounding up the watch of his wit, by and by it will strike.
mircea_popescu: it just needs to be beaten black and blue and then fucked raw.
mircea_popescu: see, if he had called them maidowniks i'd have been in awe of his fucking expressivity
asciilifeform: from 'майдан' (the ua square where the 'demonstration' was) and 'даун' (down's syndrome)
asciilifeform: actually there is a beautiful russian name widely in use now
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, in sum, you're saying he's just whatever, too tired to even invent a name for the idiots so he's going with neo nazi ?
ThickAsThieves: I'm the first
ThickAsThieves: I'm one of the 12 apostles!
Duffer1: the oracle of "Ohama"
mircea_popescu: "Not too many takers so far: of the 100 confirmed bets, 88 are betting on Uncle Warren. Only 12 have taken the bitcoin side of the bet. (Paul Vigna)"
ThickAsThieves: like idiots they link to BRK-B of course
mircea_popescu: well, nationalist movements in the 21st century. it's gonna be pretty comedic.
asciilifeform: omitting the 'nazi' would be quite like, were they to wear clown suits while doing their thing, to omit mention of said suits.
asciilifeform: it isn't orlov's (or putin's) fault that the west ua folks insist on becoming something out of a comic book