steven-__: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/18/business/media/cnns-ratings-surge-with-coverage-of-the-mystery-of-the-missing-airliner.html?_r=0
mircea_popescu: if a blackhole pops up anywhere in the atmosphere we'd likely hear about it.
mircea_popescu: are these people... braindead ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves> if any one here were involved in Ethereum, they wouldn't be involved in Ethereum << that.
Namworld: I think I'll do the same.
Namworld: I can now speak of the same thing as if they were the same thing in multiple ways of saying that this same thing is the same thing.
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Namworld: Redundancy has sunk in. I am now afflicted like a disease by the redundancy sickness that is infection-like.
Namworld: The sad aspect about such a large population of humans, diminishing amount of land available.
BCB: Anyone here involved in Etherium
Namworld: It can be hard to live a traditional lifestyle if the land required to do so is all claimed already and people won't let you.
BingoBoingo: BCB: There are variations, so far the best mass media writeup I've seen came out of Gawker of all places
ninjashogun: ll how terrible are those rates? like 2-3 percent of the normal spread or worse?
Namworld: oh, if that's the kind of thing you're shooting for, go for it. Looks nice.
ninjashogun: what happens if a wire transfer is received in the wrong denomination? does the bank just convert it at whatever rate they feel like?
ThickAsThieves: some conversation with the writer
BingoBoingo: BCB: Just ore news is interested in the old news
BCB: any news on the SEC drama
radan: this is the kind of lifestyle we're going for
benkay: i like having something to strip them out of, mircea_popescu.
ll: lol that looks like it was taken in the uffizi
mircea_popescu: ughlol don't overuse it, it's really here for the sec.
radan: we're not going to be doing farming, either
benkay: more slips and stockings for all the babes.
mircea_popescu: deadweasel i say it occasionally, works to distinguish adult womenz from the igirl generation.
Namworld: Well, I expect you to collect a lot of hate along the way and probably fail, radan, but I can always appreciate that someone fights for his ideals.
ughlol: these girls are HOT!
benkay: deadweasel: that'd be the joke
radan: though one of the guys in our project really wants afghanistan
radan: the seas are vulnerable
mircea_popescu: then you can buy snake island and start your own, ukrainian-free utopia
Namworld: You seem to view everything with always a lot of assumptions made on the spot, or already established in your mind.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's mid semester, they won't be back for a few more weeks
BingoBoingo: radan: I am interested in your perspective on the relationship between form and extension
radan: hopefully we understand each other better now.
Namworld: What people think matters? For the coward, maybe.
Namworld: Nothing has a purpose. So I'll extend my life given the possibility until I grow tired of life and any purposes I would give myself along the way.
radan: but the whole world is outside of it
mircea_popescu: and are you kidding man ?! the entire us worships 12 pussy atm.
radan: this is why they're scared and fearful of everything
radan: they acquire a woman's timidity
radan: they end up very feminine
Namworld: If you offered me immortality, I'd be scared of it. Scared of being left alone in darkness for eternity as the Universe dies.
Namworld: I've said as long as possible. Immortality is not a possibility. Even if you extended your life, the universe won't last forever. Killing yourself is always an option too.
radan: in nature, fear is the domain of women
radan: is that they're scared of death
radan: the reason insecure people want to live forever
radan: my hypothesis is thi
radan: I'll leave the obvious unsaid
radan: it's always very young people and the insecure who want immortality
radan: I have a feeling they're very short sighted ones
Namworld: It's not like you need the whole of it to participate to go to space.
Namworld: It doesn't matter if the whole of humanity doesn't work together. Humanity isn't a damn ant colony. Why would it work together as a whole?
radan: but not to the extent of autism
Mats_cd03: there is so much more than epigenetics in play
mircea_popescu: radan neither is cancer.
mircea_popescu: he's right. humans will only work together as a whore.
radan: there's a reason all attempts at it have failed
radan: humans will never work together
Namworld: Or you know, there's ~99.9% of genes in commons between any human and the next. Maybe if you want to promote your genes and people close genetically, you should consider all humans the same and work on ensuring humans can colonize space. That would help your genes' survival. Most of them.
mircea_popescu: actually... few people know but at some point bulgaria was the major kingdom in se europe
Mats_cd03: longitudinal study beats all the stupid links that have been appearing as evidence in this channel
mircea_popescu: that aside, amusingly enough, the romanian natl poet seems to have hated bulgarians (and greeks)
Namworld: So what, you purport to promote your own genes, you should promote people close genetically and crush the rest?
mircea_popescu: seems a tenuous theory.
Namworld: I have no clue. Radan is unhappy about the world and keeps mentioning jews and about mating and promoting his gene pool.
mircea_popescu: there's such a thing as "danubian stock" ?!
radan: so I'm the process of founding a society
radan: honey bees survive despite 75% of them having no children
radan: it matters because reproduction is the whole point of our existence
Namworld: If you're having a single partner, then yes, maybe that's the best course of action. But then again, what does it matter?
ThickAsThieves: he just skips over the "bad" parts I guess
radan: "The researchers suggest marrying third and fourth cousins is so optimal for reproduction because they sort of have the "best of both worlds." While first-cousin couples could have inbreeding problems, couples who are far-removed from each other could have genetic incompatibilities."
radan: http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/02/08/couples-who-are-third-or-fourth-cousins-have-more-kids-grandkids-than-other/
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I imagine the BTC peanut gallery has the inverse problem of the one I supposed the media had in the morning's post
benkay: there are several, radan.
Namworld: Thus will mate with however they prefer, not based on genes.
radan: Jews have been marrying their first cousins for millenia
Namworld: More offsprings with more diverse genes is still better statistically. Never said people actually strived for it. They tend to prefer personally enjoyement over ensuring their genes survive.
BingoBoingo: Reasons why breeding outside the group is useful https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_genetics_of_Jews
benkay: subject of bitlord of cascadia, the campaign has begun and is doing quite well, ty for asking. simply by showing up to the 'meetups', calling out scams and repeatedly hammering on points such as 'btc ≠ consumer tech' has rendered unto me many lunches and dinners paid for by cautious and quiet folk of wealth and power.
Namworld: Even then, it's still because they're separated. People don't know it's ideal typically, and don't usually care about it. If they can't be assed to get to the next neighborhood to have sex and still speciation occurs, what can you do about it?
mircea_popescu: news travels fast, unless you're in the bitcoin peanut gallery.
radan: either you're still in high school
Namworld: Species separate because they are physically separated and cannot travel easily/evolve in a different environment.
asciilifeform: ^ the limonov is for radan. everyone else, feel free to ignore
radan: somehow they speciated
asciilifeform: t only outside of the sanitaria.'
asciilifeform: eased with their mediocrity. 'But this fellow from the desert!' (Interestingly, that among the hundreds of tyrants, in uniform and without, depending on the united states or the european sanitaria, none provoke a fraction of the wrath caused by Kaddafi. Evidently, the cause is his independence.) Kaddafi - is an extraordinary living proof of the fact that the fairy-tale version of life remains possible today. Bu
asciilifeform: a videoclip of a fairy tale coming true... ...they [americans] also wish to drive around in jeeps, accompanied by squadrons of hotties in berets with kalashnikovs - but are impotent from birth. Envy, taken with an understanding of one's own powerless... easily transforms into hatred. The leaders of the sanitarium are easier for the 'patient' to understand, closer. He sees their permissible pecadillos, and is pl
asciilifeform: 'When the glorious Muammar Kaddafi, in his blue bournouse, or in his uniform, appear on the telly, the domesticated inhabitant of the sanitaria jerks from fright. 'Monster,' 'terrorist,' 'evildoer,' public enemy number one - the media calls him, led by its disdain for all that is envigorating (and, on top of it all, foreign), and pushed by false information supplied by CIA... ...his very existence is a rebuke,
Namworld: Mixing your genes with more of the same, less risk of improvements. Many offspring with different genetic partners, more chance of having a good combination.
radan: because the hybrid state would have a higher chance of survival
radan: there would be no reason to adapt to different conditions
mircea_popescu: you understand that even if the entire population only reproduced on strict mixing guidelines there'd still be a bunch of blondes etc.
radan: then species would never seperate
dignork: radan, idea of keen was born way before discovery of genes, they just happened to snap right into your bizzare view of world, it's a pure coincidence
Namworld: It actually reduces the chance of your genes going on.
radan: who are "as chaff unto the wheat"
radan: so I'd rather help people out who are close to me, genetically
Namworld: I'm sure piece of coal was used already somewhere by a thousand different people, and I might have read something similar. Pretty sure the sentence is original. That or brought out from a subconscious memory.
dexX7: hehe i didn't know anotheranonlol is still around
radan: when you remove the distractions
mircea_popescu: radan it's not so hard to do you know, and neither expensive.
radan: "me against my brother, my brothers and me against my cousins, then my cousins and me against strangers"
mircea_popescu: Namworld the piece of coal conceit is actually quite good. yours or read somewhere ?
radan: anyway, they have a saying
Namworld: You're a sad little piece of coal, brushing off darkness on everything, your understanding of the world is skewed. See, I can play that game too.
mircea_popescu: actually i rode with the bedouin.
radan: dr. popescu, have you heard of the bedouin
radan: your understanding of the world is skewed
mircea_popescu: and my father is probably even worse off.
mircea_popescu: radan it seems to me my brother has just about equal chances to die by my hand than to be helped by same.
BingoBoingo: This representation of genetics seems to to in practice lead to the discovery of novel diseases preventable through hybridization
radan: it's the genetic background for altruism.
radan: they share our genes
radan: it's the whole reason we help our brothers and parents even though we have no intention of fucking them.
asciilifeform: upon the furthest reaches of the planet) a life colourless, boring, stupid, devoid of any real joys. The life of domestic animals. Against a 'Big Brother', the old 'maximum security' wearing boots and a menacing uniform, it was possible to (as history shows, this takes place sooner or later) - rise up. But how about uprising against one's own weaknesses - is this possible?'
asciilifeform: 'Among all of the crimes, the most terrible (though not punishable) is the crime against one's own self -- the failure of an individual to use his own, only life. Listen to the idiotic musical noises, park the car, labour in the light but uninteresting work, and before you know it, your tenure upon this earth is over. The collective, so-called 'civilized mankind,' has excelled in the creation of (and imposition
ThickAsThieves: I think I sorted out the proper reply https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=524071.msg5825367#msg5825367
radan: than the alternative
radan: your average countrywoman will share more of them with you, even before the act, than a papuan or botswanan
radan: is ensuring the passing on of your genes
radan: the whole point of reproduction
radan: ^ the modern manifesto
radan: never mind the genetic differences between us
Namworld: You just said another race
Namworld: There's one race and only one.
asciilifeform: man, 'soft' is based on the encouragement of his weaknesses. The ideal of 'hard' violence - to convert the world into a maximum security prison, of 'soft' - to convert man himself into a domestic animal.'
asciilifeform: 'Frightened of its own cannibalism during the First, and, moreover, the Second world wars. 'civilized' mankind dashed from the 'hard' to the 'soft' mode of violence. (The deciding factors: 1. the restraining influence of atomic weapons and 2. the advent of new technologies of production, which made possible an overfeeding of the masses.) If the essence of 'hard' violence consists in the physical suppression of
asciilifeform: i'll take the liberty of translating
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i dunno who would bother in that topic tbh
radan: another race, even
radan: another people
radan: Judaism benefits the jews
only: mircea_popescu: what the actual fuck, lol. why does he think he needs a blog?
radan: that's what I envision as an alternative... others may disagree
Namworld: What is it with people seeing the world as becoming bad invoking jews?
ThickAsThieves: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=524071.msg5819385#msg5819385 I'm not sure I have the energy for this guy now the MPOE-PR broke him
radan: I think you think "activists" and little intellectual fuckers with low testosterone to be helping the world out somehow
Namworld: I've never said to be apathetic and not doing anything.
radan: that's the whole point
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Depends on the kind of exploit
Namworld: I'm saying, if you're not happy about the current state of the world, will you just lay down or work to help it keep improving?
ThickAsThieves: i was thinking, itd be nice to have the trilema model accessible to more of us
Namworld: That you hear about it a lot in the media doesn't mean that the world isn't better than before. Sure those things happen. I'm not questioning it.
mircea_popescu: so i can ban them
radan: and I guarantee you the modern liberal has much more hate in his heart than a christian 2000 years ago
radan: they're meaningless, unquantifiable buzzwords
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves this is how the nsa works, by the way. we've just used BUMBLEBEE to identify the source of leaked documents.
radan: do you even believe in these things
Namworld: Sure there's regions where it's a hellhole right now. Those places change over the ages. Globally, overall, crime rate, wars, torture, hate, violence, etc are pretty low.
Namworld: The life in nature is a very cruel one, radan. Humans can be just as cruel. But as time passes and our understanding of ourselves improves, we seem to be doing away with that.
ThickAsThieves: what answers do they expect? Yes, I love people collecting data on me!
ThickAsThieves: Is there anything else you'd like to tell us about your thoughts on this issue?
ThickAsThieves: they wont let me quote it
ThickAsThieves: How much do you trust these institutions with your data? Stop.
ThickAsThieves: "How much do you trust these institutions with your data?" "Stop."
Namworld: I'm neither fat nor soft. Although yes I am a male.
Namworld: Study history further before saying it isn't very encouraging. World has improved and it can still be improved.
ThickAsThieves: "How much do you trust these institutions with your data?"
chetty: if the direction is bad it will fix itself - not pleasantly but ...
ThickAsThieves: "How much do these types of data collection concern you?"
Namworld: Crime, corruption, violence, torture, selfish wars. They were far more frequent in the "good old time of yore".
mircea_popescu: the world's a lot older than you are.
radan: but with a whole host of hostile actors pushing them in a certain direction
kakobrekla: blah blah blah heat death of the universe, who cares
ThickAsThieves: "The White House wants to know how worried you are about data privacy"
Namworld: Not that it doesn't need improving. There's no perfection that can be reached. There's always room to further improve.
chetty: the best way to 'fix' stuff is leave it be
mircea_popescu: the world is runcible
Namworld: Well I can't say this year compared to the latest years. But on the longer term, the world is the least fucked up it's ever been, if by fucked up you mean things like torture, violence and such.
Namworld: [12:57] <radan> the world is fucked up
ThickAsThieves: but they ruin it with that lefy angle
ThickAsThieves: the "ay" snuggling is kinda pro
ThickAsThieves: i like the typography of the new bitpay logo, but the left angle on the box is not parallel
ThickAsThieves: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=587 // they didnt include an address to send flowers, nor a funeral date
mircea_popescu: anyway, to liven up the discussion a little,
ThickAsThieves: well chasing the dragon is chasing a high that cannot be physiologically achieved anymore
mircea_popescu: radan nobody is arguing that the us isn't miserable. most of all not thinking people living there
ThickAsThieves: chased by the dragon, in a way
ThickAsThieves: such that you begin to feel it's the world, when really it's your body
radan: as is, for some reason, the modern custom.
radan: doing "work" solely of the intellectual flavor
radan: they are generally not happy in huge impersonal concrete cities
radan: and ensure an existence for their children
BingoBoingo: radan: A good portion of the neighboring country here was functionally in the other part of the US in the 1860's
ThickAsThieves: alcohol is a mistress that way BingoBoingo, "The love I sell you in the evening, by the morning won't exist"
radan: everything north of the Mason Dixon line and west of Texas
radan: "the Mardi Gras thing"
BingoBoingo: radan: Have you ever tried the Mardi Gras thing? I've found that SoCo Hurricaines make the misery go away.
radan: depression, mental ilness, and the concomitant host of modern evils
Ghaleon: the native , aboriginal peoples are closest to God
Ghaleon: felt with the army, sea, nuns and a bunch of dudes carrying heavy weapons shoed up usually.... pretty much bandits.. but i felt their pain
radan: but there are still happy people in Afghanistan and Thibet and Borneo
radan: the world is fucked up
ThickAsThieves: yeah but you probly have the order wrong
LorenzoMoney: no wonder your ancestors were stupid enough to give up their paganism for the idiocy of catholicism
radan: I tell them it's a great city to live in
radan: and, all things considered, I'm glad they did
Ghaleon: new orleans cops were scary.. the DEA helped me rebuild a school for some nuns.. but first they wanted to beat me lol
radan: it's either nigs doing it or cajuns
radan: you begin to notice a trend among them
BingoBoingo: radan: It is polite country out there
Ghaleon: good folks there.. city is corrupt tho.. sin city...
radan: the people are very polite and friendly
BingoBoingo: radan: What part of the States are you most familiar with?
radan: work for a few years in the oil industry
mircea_popescu: well i imagine your parents just took you there as an object