BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The thing is Americans based on pre-fracking thought reflexively seem to disqualify nations capable of producing fuel from the ranks of the industrialized and are only beginning to shine that light on themselves
benkay: hey smartypants: what's the 3d imaging technique where you use some knowledge of the lens distortion to compute a point cloud?
asciilifeform: it merely got kicked out of the 'plastik fantastiks', that's all
mircea_popescu: i can;t for the life of me figure how exactly russia taking crimea disqualifies it as an industrialised country.
BingoBoingo: Gawker amazes me in its ability to oscilate between the relevant and the worst fermented turds in the sun
mircea_popescu: this is a complete breakdown of the system
mircea_popescu: and wtf you people with your gawker. what the hell is this, we're supposed to be gun totin' libertarians, we reading gawker nao ?!
asciilifeform: either
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the original maintainer
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Which one? The CNN dorks who could not act like white trash?
gribble: The Maxwellians (Cornell History of Science): Bruce J. Hunt ...: <http://www.amazon.com/The-Maxwellians-Cornell-History-Science/dp/0801482348>; The Maxwellians by Bruce J. Hunt — Reviews, Discussion ...: <http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3796857-the-maxwellians>; The Maxwellians - Bruce J. Hunt - Google Books: (1 more message)
asciilifeform: ;;google the maxwellians
moiety: re James Clerk Maxwell, the building named after him and Edinburger uni is pretty immense http://www.ph.ed.ac.uk/sites/default/files/images/jcmb115-585.jpg?1247494244
moiety: also: add cream, its also the best kind of drambuie
gribble: Dmitry Mendeleev and 40 degrees of Russian vodka - English ...: <http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/21-11-2011/119683-dmitry_mendeleev_vodka-0/>; History of Russian vodka | Mendeleyev | Original Russian alcoholic ...: <http://www.vodka-tf.com/history_of_vodka/>; Vodka - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vodka>
moiety: and pey, my aunt lives across the road from a drambuie place
asciilifeform: together.
asciilifeform: moiety: is it just the scots that start at like, 14-16 << i thought they started at ~ -1
benkay: this is similar to what happens to american kids when they encounter alcohol for the first time at age 18.
ozbot: Two CNN Producers Arrested in Sad Attempt to Break into the WTC Site
asciilifeform: at this point, burden of proof of lack of diabolical (i.e. nsa) involvement is, sadly, on the curator
moiety: "a fresh start (rather than importing the old Full Disclosure member addresses)", ie. he wasn't allowed them
adolf_fishler: who is the camera man here
asciilifeform: moiety: 'so you aren't fond of cats? / then we are coming to you!'
BingoBoingo: MisterE: The thing is coyotes don't make sounds like either dogs or cats, they hoot like owls
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo for most of the testees having to eat asparagus prolly qualifies as cruel and unusual.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the common factor isn't the sham, but the lack of any serious desire on the part of the shammed to probe deeper.
mircea_popescu: somehow nobody picked on "hey, one address per transaction has its issues as a model" as a result, either.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The way to reduce piss test fraud is to give portions of the tested at times asparagus and other times no asparagus
asciilifeform: this, for some reason, inescapably reminds me of the folks who sell the fake piss to dope aficionados
mircea_popescu: those people sent btc there.
asciilifeform pictures a scammer who provides 'wiggle XXX coin address' service to other scammerz
mircea_popescu: on the contrary, it ruins reputations.
mircea_popescu: the fact that i can't univocally resolve their claims is the problem, and decoying it doens't breed confidence.
mircea_popescu: benkay sure, but that was never in question. if I have 5 that owe me 600 btc pay to the same one address, the fact that i can prove i have received 600 btc in that address is neither here nor there
moiety: i think its a shame they keep them in zoos, they are so solitary their immune systems cant handle living so near people and modern day life, they get sick and die a lot :(
benkay: mircea_popescu: kraken signed with the 600B addy last time i ready
mircea_popescu: "Like rabbits, after eating they initially produce soft green feces, which they eat again to take in further nutrition, before producing the final, solid, fecal pellets."
asciilifeform: for some reason, the archetypical russian lolcat
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform interesting, these aren't really cats, more like leopards.
mircea_popescu: the entire thing'd hinge on whether the animal responds to the behaviour or to the chemical.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well coyotes aren't that big and I haven't seen them in packs here.
BingoBoingo: Not seen women do this. Personally done these steps a few times this winter.
BingoBoingo: Rural southern Illinois
asciilifeform: aha, 'handling' in the german 'Sonderbehandlung' sense.
BingoBoingo: Well, coyote handling doesn't involve putting hands to coyotes either
gribble: Pallas's cat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallas's_cat>; Manul – the Cat that Time Forgot ~ The Ark In Space: <http://www.arkinspace.com/2011/04/manul-cat-that-time-forgot.html>; Pallas's Cat Manul - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F13bkwYYcxE>
asciilifeform: these aren't housecats, though.
BingoBoingo: Those are the ones
adolf_fishler: what the fuck
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: find the best cat pictures << http://img1.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/c/0/38/551/38551326_1232655606_medvedev_i_manul.jpg
nubbins`: (see what i did there?)
adolf_fishler: for a week then
nubbins`: asciilifeform: not me, but that's just because i've spent fiddy bucks on terrible shit in the past
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: find the best cat pictures
MisterE: cat is the internet spirit animal dont fuck with cats
nubbins`: adolf_fishler: occasionally. mostly they just let em wander
asciilifeform: nubbins`: one of the worst fiddybucks i ever spent
adolf_fishler: do people walk cats there?
nubbins`: asciilifeform: agreed, but it's lovely for streaming media to the tv :D
MisterE: thats why they so cheep
BingoBoingo: The post is basically going to be "Vircurex went: 1) hole 2) Investment 3) hole boogaloo 4) scam 5) BTC-TC and Buttfunder died 6) Cryptostocks scamissance 7) Advertising "Interest" 8) Freeze Mothafucker" with elaboration
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes but back then 1k btc was peanuts.
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> i don't think anything any particular way // your question seemed to imply otherwise
Apocalyptic: haven't followed that vircurex story since the beginning
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: You might be confusing that with the second hole in vircurex.
mircea_popescu: but their pr is spiraling out of control in a certain pattern. that's usually the end sign.
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: "Investors" patched Vircurex's 1000+ BTC hole the first time...
mircea_popescu: in general nothing keeps someone from claiming they got funded.
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: WHo says they know better?
Apocalyptic: but then kinda dubious why would some potential investors want to patch that hole
BingoBoingo: See, the Kraken name's jsut always seemed too toxic.
Apocalyptic: i guess that's why they did it
mircea_popescu: that's 3-4mn of the round.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic except they had a 600 btc hole from before.
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, they just finished a 5 mio funding round
mircea_popescu: RagnarsBitch who the fuck is ragnar ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo did they ?
BingoBoingo: Well they pulled their name after your PR supposed a Pirate like thing named Craken in the famous Posting the called out Pirate
mircea_popescu: something that never really was the case for vircurex
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nah, much more recent, and originally they looked legit
BingoBoingo: Kraken has been toxic almost as long as vircurex, haven't they?
mircea_popescu: on the off chance anyone here was silly enough to have btc there, prolly a good idea to get them out asap, this looks as awful as it getds.
mircea_popescu: but there's scores of people ciomplaining they've not received their withdrawals etc
mircea_popescu: also malizia (the one with laura antonelli_
moiety: lmao @ "handling the blobs"
ozbot: Oakville, Washington - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: an entire decade of these completely stranged movies, that are sorta like a 15yo prissy rendition of "risque"
mircea_popescu: thye didn't do nearly enough nudity i nythe 80s
Duffer1: nubbins' The Fountain
BingoBoingo: My goal for the next year. Meet up sort of people to start asking other meetup people if they are me https://twitter.com/DorianSatoshi/status/448634060307705856
nubbins`: incidentally i noticed there was some Talking Heads in wall street
moiety: wait is there actual cats in this mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: a, great film. you'll prolly love the music.
BingoBoingo: Ohio is THE worst
adolf_fishler: theres a nintendo game!
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Maybe instead of watching make the shitty animated version of -assets?
mircea_popescu: o i got one you've not seen : hot summer in the city
adolf_fishler: the porno.
adolf_fishler: he was great there also
thestringpuller: they should have just killed her off and replaced her
nubbins`: so full circle there i guess
nubbins`: not sure but it was the name of a dispensary in Weeds
moiety: sigh ok, watch I come with the rain , its a thai director but its english language
moiety: OMG nubbins` BEST film ever have you seen The Man From Nowhere????? its the best thing ive ever seen
nubbins`: Man-gil: The bounty on your head is 300 won. Yoon Tae-goo: What? I'm only worth a piano? Man-gil: A used one at that.
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: the most recent ones with daniel craig
cazalla: get with the times, it's all about sharkalanche now
nubbins`: watched too many of them
adolf_fishler: the ending
mircea_popescu: nubbins` clearly not even the google works in canada now that they fired the snowplows.
nubbins`: apparently their site has too many hot women, so older men join free
ozbot: I Come with the Rain (2009) - IMDb
nubbins`: actually, being john malkovich is maybe the only cage movie i like
adolf_fishler: however it ranks high on the list of
nubbins`: the movie itself was such a stack of shit
moiety: nubbins`: have you seen I come with the rain?
nubbins`: or a blender is the best way to lose your dick
adolf_fishler: how long have we known each other, TRUST ME
nubbins`: that's like saying x is the best altcoin
moiety: oh btw nubbins` you are the only other person ive met (otherthan who showed it to me) that has seen Funny Games, highly underrated film
Duffer1: The Dark Crystal
Duffer1: nubbins`someone recommend a movie >> The Secret of Nimh
adolf_fishler: the fattness
nubbins`: ah fuck the store closes in three minutes
adolf_fishler: back into the sea
adolf_fishler: who the fuck is that
adolf_fishler: who let the man in here
nubbins`: the greasy spoon in question is maybe a 5 minute walk from here
nubbins`: "Alshaek said through an interpreter that if he'd known that, it would have changed everything. Alshaek said he would not longer have been responsible for disciplining his daughter — that would fall to the husband."
nubbins`: the best part is at the end. apparently it was the new husband who should have been choking her
moiety: o.o "...went into the washroom to text her boyfriend, who happened to be at the police station laying charges against Alshaek for the earlier incident at the restaurant." well that probably helped the case
ozbot: Father ordered to leave Canada after choking daughter - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/father-ordered-to-leave-canada-after-choking-daughter-1.2585455?cmp=rss
nubbins`: i'm debating running to the store before it closes
nubbins`: he always posts facebook status updates about the heavy metal CDs he's listening to in the truck that day, and says things like "heavy metal garbage truck: where long hair is the law"
nubbins`: for reference, that picture was taken 3pm today and the snow stopped falling YESTERDAY.
nubbins`: there we go
nubbins`: finally smashed into an SUV at the bottom of the hill, saving the occupants of the adjacent house from certain death
nubbins`: anyway a garbage truck was making its way down a steep road, lost control, picked up TWO CARS parked on the curb and brought them down with it
nubbins`: ...as i fail to find the link
nubbins`: anyway, should be a shit show, since the city laid off 80 of its 130 snow clearing workers this past friday
mircea_popescu: davout how the fuck do you have more activity than mpoe-pr
nubbins`: so we're set to have a -- no joke, this is what they're calling it -- "weather bomb" on wednesday night/thursday morning
mircea_popescu: nubbins` revenge of the cheerleaders thing is basically "rent an old space opera B set, make some floozies run naked around it"
nubbins` shakes head at the memory
nubbins`: like what was the one... I Was a Nymphomaniac Barbarian in Dinosaur Hell, or something?
nubbins`: i read "9x% sold out" and i translate as "we're having a hard time getting rid of these shit coins!"
mircea_popescu: anyone seen revenge of the cheerleaders btw ?
BingoBoingo: Monopoly goes BernanKoin http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2014/03/25/monopoly_house_rules_hasbro_is_crowdsourcing_changes_to_the_official_rulebook.html
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: "Daca eram gropar te ingropam drept in ocean si-apoi la vaduva-i bateam, zimbind, cu pula-n geam." if i were an undertaker i'd had undertook you straight to the ocean and then i'd be arround knocking in the widow's window with my inflamed schlong
nubbins`: hm, i've seen maybe 90% of the english movies you've reviewed
mircea_popescu: o look what i found! asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2011/daca-eram/ an excursion in the romanian ribald tradition
nubbins`: so anyway the movie recommendations from you guys are 2 for 2 so far
nubbins`: between that and wall street last night, i ended up remembering that "salesman" was totally a thing that men were, for a while there
mircea_popescu: nubbins` anyway, the comment was a contrived "you should see it multiple times"
nubbins`: "Young Ronnie is just gone off in a cop car. Looks like he's handcuffed. Bozo and Dogface left right after in their car."
nubbins`: so my folks don't like their neighbours. the kid just got hauled off in a cop car. mom sez:
ozbot: Interacting with fiat institutions [such as the SEC], a guide
mircea_popescu: one should never see that film for the first time.
nubbins`: i saw glengarry glen ross earlier today for the first time
mircea_popescu: kinda makes the thing stronger, imo.
mircea_popescu: yeah they can't act
mircea_popescu: prmised the mark 30 bucks out of his inexistent check,
davout: i know of one where the guy pretended to be a pirate or sthg
mircea_popescu: hey, anyone recall that iconic confidence scam scene where the guy pretends to be an ex marine waiting for a money order ?
nubbins`: davout: "but it is an ownage!" "okay, then, smoke it" "..."
dexX7: i think this is the original thread on btctalk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=515932.0
mircea_popescu: well... undeletable by the same crowd at any rate.
mircea_popescu: dexX7 maybe drop the guy a note to come by ?
mircea_popescu: o wait wait... the 3k btc worth of server can be slowed down ?
nubbins`: open a thread w/ images, all broken. refresh, all there.
nubbins`: btctalk is fucked these past few days
nubbins`: so you could say that thermos has... INSULATED her?
pankkake: yes, because it slows down the server or some crap
pankkake: because of thermos
nubbins` endorsals your gf for the following skills
nubbins` endorsed you for the following skills: beard-growing
mircea_popescu: kinda why i love nanotube. he's a geek, and he's not making the wot any more social than it is
BingoBoingo: The people for whom any social interaction is a greater burden then clicking button on whatever virtual BBQ retreat they go to
pankkake: I've been endorsed for skills the people endorsing me knew nothing about. that's because it bugs you to endorse people…
nubbins`: "the hr manager at your first job out of university has endorsed you for the following skills"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And the wanna be Ceo aspies
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The forum aspies
nubbins`: yeah, i've had people i worked with 3 years ago "endorse" me for skills out of the blue
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the who ?!
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the farm of evil, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271711.msg5902521#msg5902521
pankkake: they did some things right lately, you can *endorse* people
BingoBoingo: Basically the part where you contact the raters is why the apserzersorLords aren't keen on the WoT and default to Pirateat40 to justify their sloth
TestingUnoDosTre: I absolutely hate recruits on linked in. It's like they believe their likelyhood of staying with a company depends on how many contacts they have
TestingUnoDosTre: just joking. you explained the concept quite well
mircea_popescu: i can cut through the chase in about ten minutes because of it,
mircea_popescu: lol it's the thinking that makes it powerful tho.
gribble: You rated user mircea_popescu on Thu Oct 17 15:12:06 2013, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: patron of the arts.
mike_c: thanks for rating mp. i have found wot useful even for someone like me with a small graph. you rate people you trust, and then can leech off their ratings.
nubbins`: i think the highest rating i've left anyone is maybe a 2.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` it's really how the wot's supposed to work.
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 6, Level 2: 11 via 7 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user pankkake: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=pankkake | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=pankkake | Rated since: Thu Jun 6 12:07:25 2013
mircea_popescu: conversely i could keep someone at a 1 even if we trade millions, if it's a hit and run affair and i couldn't really tell them from adam.
mircea_popescu: so in this sense, pankkake, i can mark as 10 someone with whom i only do 0.001 trades, inasmuch as i judge that i can 100% describe them to whoever asks
mircea_popescu: and the individual score is not "how trustworthy is this guy" but "how well i am acquainted with this guy", ie, how valuable my input may be to a third party asking for references.
mircea_popescu: the only thing someone's aggregate score tells you is how likely it is for you to have someone who knows him in your network.
pankkake: no, I just take them as trust
mircea_popescu: pankkake it seems you're labouring under the misapprehension that these ranks are sort-of like school marks
pankkake: thought it was 5. maybe then
pankkake: is there a maximum?
BingoBoingo: He didn't do much in the public chan
Apocalyptic: doesn't contradict the fact you may be a broker
dexX7: re wired: wasn't this mcmillan guy the one who was here a few days ago?
TestingUnoDosTre: a little bit late, but this was an awesome comment in the california hacker article "It IS relatively easy for an nationally/regionally accredited operation to advertise a degree program, collect tuition, and then provide low-quality education. Somehow I see a deep parallel, and the problem is what again??"
gribble: You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
ninjashogun: PDF of the original Securities Act (relevant section): https://www.sec.gov/about/laws/sa33.pdf PDF of Exchange Act: https://www.sec.gov/about/laws/sea34.pdf
ninjashogun: I asked about accepting bitcoin for shares on my site - since it's "play money" (monopoly money) that is PC software and anyone can run it (like a video game) to generate the virtual internet coins.
ninjashogun: (at the SEC.)
ninjashogun: as to whether something is an investment contract is a fact-specific analysis. \p The Division of Trading and Markets "
ninjashogun: "Mr. Viragh, \p If it constitutes a security, yes. \pThe definition of security is included in Securities Act Section 2(a)(1) and Exchange Act Section (3)(a)(10). In addition, the term investment contract has been further defined by court cases. While the determination that stocks and bonds are securities may be fairly simple (because they are specifically named in these definitions), the determination