velacreations: mp, it's not convenient when "official news" has traditionally been given through other means
mircea_popescu: velacreations this chan is the gazette of record of all bitcoin asset matters, but that aside i agree it's not convenient for various investors etc to not get info in whatever channels and forms they prefer.
ThickAsThieves: benkay, is that not evident otherwise?
benkay: ThickAsThieves: would you clearsign and pastebin something to the effect of "I am no longer affiliated with Neobee, your next point of contact is thus and such."?
velacreations: mp, what I mean is that he has (in the past) given advanced notice, and it was sent on official channels, like the exchange, company website, fund thread, etc
velacreations: exactly, MP, how does a fund manager just "quit" without notifying the fund?
ThickAsThieves: mp, the current manager would now be LMB
psterryl: has there been a hack as some people are suggesting?
mircea_popescu: yes well as general practice, the underwriter of a stock can't just quit, they have to leave the stock to be shepherded by someone else.
mike_c: so you are the one who ran away with shares?? (j/k)
ThickAsThieves: the contract with LMB and our services was officially terminated today, initiated by me
mircea_popescu: basically what happened here, the cfo ran off with a block of shares ?
velacreations: they were, funny, I am not seeing anything pertaining to NEOBEE in that link
jurov: and subjected to hyperadvanced rectothermal technology
mircea_popescu: so wait... neobee asked havelock to halt trading because *neobee* suspects there's insider trading going on ?
Diablo-D3: velacreations: awhile back, and they were.
mircea_popescu: mike_c that's the asicminer stuff neh ?
benkay: velacreations: see the link of mike_c 's
ThickAsThieves: i appreciate the effort, but you do not have facts
mircea_popescu: benkay has it basically. skim while fools flock, delist once it goes to shit, the glbse v2.0
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ThickAsThieves: In case any of you missed it, Havelock has shared that "the compliance officer of Neo and Bee Ltd has stated that due to an increase of abnormal activity on the LMB share platform, there may be a high possibility of questionable trading activity. While Neo and Bee Ltd investigate the issue further they have strongly recommended that we halt trading and transfers."
benkay: they skim off trades, and delist when things start looking shady
benkay: they're under no real pressure
BingoBoingo: As the asshole who wrote that BitBet my though was havecocks not lasting through the end of the year
mircea_popescu: kids wanna accounting-fraud their own books (which they don't keep anyway) and woe unto anyone getting in their way.
pLambert: wait, we are the same person, pankkake, right? Why am I talking to myself?
pLambert: And Herp sees the trade stopping as a good thing: "This was probably a good move due to all the manipulation. Spamtroll manipulators had a field day recently while Neo was busy elsewhere." https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=529946.msg5956564#msg5956564
pLambert: yeah, looks like the bet should resolve to "Yes" even for a temporary halt of trading?
mircea_popescu: how the fuck some "company" slash "ceo" that can spend enough to mediabuy a small mediteranean island can't get their corp comms in working order is beyond comprehension.
benkay: let the mods figure it out.
mike_c: hm. Neobee halts trading, TaT is running from it.. guess this is one is diving into the dead pool.
asciilifeform: ('NSAShtrafbat' for the culturally literate)
pLambert: TAT, when did you stop running the pass-through?
mircea_popescu: what the hell is this, havelockism ?!
bounce: no, the more advanced facebook "hack" variety
mircea_popescu: so actually tat had some sort of ipo-coupon asset (xbond) which ipo-couponed neo, and then he was running the neobee hl asset.
ThickAsThieves: pLambert I'm not clear to line of your questioning as it seems somewhat speculative, but as I mentioned, the relationship from the start was a contractual one between separate parties
Apocalyptic: benkay, what's your relation to the paper ?
pLambert: was neobee using TAT as a way to get into the community? I feel like there were scammers that did something similar before?
benkay: you're the one with researchers on staff.
pLambert: yes, he was the biggest
mircea_popescu: benkay i still don't get what the relation is supposed to have been. just that the guy can't stfu ?
benkay: tg2: aws only hires the fired
benkay: although Survant James hit a milestone recently - we now have eight full months of runway in the bank at current rates.
ThickAsThieves: the offering was always under the control of Neo, any role I was a part of was as an independent contractor
ThickAsThieves: LMB would be the only party with power over it
ThickAsThieves: You'll need to contact Neo/LMB or Danny for any other info
tg2: re: rent -> The median purchase price for one single-family freestanding residential home in our areas of business stands at approximately $37,500.
tg2: who's sysadmining over there?
mike_c: i get cloudflare errors 75% of the time i try to go to havelock.
mircea_popescu: funny when the first time some webservice is taken seriously by someone
pLambert: "Havelock Investments has been formally informed by the Pass-Through Fund Manager" <-- that guy
mircea_popescu: possibly butthurt over having shed 50% over a week and well... yet another one of those great "half your money in half a year" glbse-style things.
pLambert: I think that is their method of announcement?
mircea_popescu: well they didn't announce it or anything.
pLambert: what's going on with NEOBEE, why are they stopped trading?
the20year2: crap, i was wrong, it was displaying asks, granted there's only about 25 shares between .0075 and .008
mike_c: now the ipo is underpriced!
tg2: not even 1 server on there
tg2: fucking ebay - i searched for lipo batteries ONCE, literally 1 session in the last year
mike_c: not like the other day when you posted that md4 challenge and i almost fried my graphics card trying to crack it.
tg2: and i'm sure HFT will be the first place it shows up lol
mircea_popescu: he was the third man at id, but apparently got erased.
mike_c: michael lewis' new book is about hft traders. should be interesting. (lewis=liar's poker, moneyball, the big short)
mike_c: mircea_popescu: carmack and abrash were the talent & brains behind id software (doom,quake)
BingoBoingo: www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/03/28/fundraiser-resolved/
gribble: The operation succeeded.
kakobrekla: its the same ip
topace: but i figured it was the same IP
topace: you had me change the hostname
topace: did the IP change ?
kakobrekla: something wrong wit the api?
kakobrekla: but he is their sys admin
kakobrekla: or they changed ips
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
kakobrekla: how cum the ticker aint working, this aint right.
benkay: plan to let your stockholders sell at the same price as your round 2 ipo?
BingoBoingo: firearms and booze are like cars and booze, best kept well apart from each other in time and space
benkay: that's another plan.
benkay: 'sides, risky for the charger.
benkay: where's the fun in that, tg2 ?
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tg2: burnt the nightstand
tg2: like expanded and then blew out
mike_c: so if it doesn't crumble it causes the car to fly!
mike_c: re: not brissant: " provides another layer of deflection and finally causes the Model S to ramp up and over the object if it is essentially incompressible and immovable"
mike_c: mircea_popescu: three shields, aluminum bar, then titanium shield, then aluminum deflector shield.
benkay: plus shine, plus no tumble and maintaining the same speed as car...
tg2: they use it in interior panels
mircea_popescu: that's one motherfucking bolt
mircea_popescu: what's that item flyiong out after the puncture /
mircea_popescu: wow pretty good going with the hitch
mircea_popescu: mike_c well see, there's a reason why karate guys break one foot of brick but never try half inch of cast iron pot.
mircea_popescu: tg2 they settle.
benkay: mike_c: show me the same thing with a piece of steel a la what kicked off a recent Tesla fire.
punkman: I just use it for small purchases here and there
tg2: depending on how they feel
tg2: at which point they may or may not give it back
tg2: that special feeling when paypal sends you an email that your account is now "restricted" and they're going to hang on to your $200k while they evaluate the situation for the next 6 months
mircea_popescu: the opposite of ductility
mike_c: plus neither I nor google knows what brissant means.
punkman: so they redesigned Paypal to be responsive or whatever, now I can't even get to my account page
mircea_popescu: but you know, what happens if the obstacle isn't brissant
mircea_popescu: thats a map of the major wine producing zones
tg2: you need hills of the right orientation, arid seasons, mild temperature variances and the right amount of daylight (and, you know, some fugesi) to grow good wine
tg2: craiova is about the same latitude as the two regions in italy and france that produce the "top" wines
mircea_popescu: they actually beat france.
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, do you know how roman legionnaires chose where to settle down ? ie, they wanted to be able to grow wine)
tg2: I keep them at 14C
tg2: I /think/ it's actually below the frost line but I wouldn't want to test it out
mircea_popescu: there's criteria to choose where to live.
mircea_popescu: ya that's the end of it
tg2: next time you guys are in montreal ping me we'll hit the cellar :)
punkman: same thing is shipped to France and bottled, then sold to Americans for a huge premium
mircea_popescu: they make something like 10 mn bottles a year, most of it sold as entry and mid range wine. if you run into it tho buy it, because it's probably the best you'll ever drink at that price level.
mircea_popescu: this'be the winery about 20 miles from here.
tg2: at the back of a fridge
BingoBoingo: I have trouble trusting a brand named after something a brand is supposed to have, rather than actually having its own
tg2: but the wine has more lineage
tg2: yes they are
tg2: puts california on the map imo
tg2: then silver oak
tg2: then insignia
asciilifeform: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2014/03/24/veteran-cyclist-knew-the-dangers-all-too-well.html
tg2: from the grocery
tg2: not from the butcher, but in any respectable restaurant
BingoBoingo: St Louis also has a sort of privately run beer welfare, take the free AB brewery tour and get two beers at the end
benkay: what's even more funny is that canadian beef is cheaper here than it is up there.
tg2: probably one of the worst examples of government monopoly
tg2: an $80 bottle of wine in florida can be $300+ by the time it gets here
benkay: the monopoly is a horrendous thing.
benkay: the nice stores are nice, obviously.
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BingoBoingo: The larger outfits just have people cabable of handling security handling security
BingoBoingo: The gas stations in less desirable areas have armor, glass and kiosks
BingoBoingo: Walk up to the counter, walk out with a keg
BingoBoingo: benkay: Here we have liquor and tobacco superstores where you can browse the aisles
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's how they do pond shops here.
asciilifeform: benkay: in the cities. it is sold through a little window, like movie tickets.
mircea_popescu: the epic http://trilema.com/2012/what-does-a-start-up-run-on/ was made by me loading my own cart.
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asciilifeform: lets you out if your balance - minus the prices reported by radio tags on the junk in your bags - is positive
asciilifeform: and who would chase a genuine thief? the 'minimum wage' clerk?
asciilifeform: the alarm goes off many times, every day, cries wolf
benkay: asciilifeform: this defense ignores the store mandates that store employees not actually do anything during a theft for fear of liability.
asciilifeform: the shop clerk disarms it with some electro crap built into the cash register, and snips off the alarm wire
benkay: asciilifeform: there aren't zappers floating around?
benkay: not much to understand, the20year2.
the20year2: i've never understood homeopathy, and i don't think most who believe in it do either
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: everywhere the thing grows
asciilifeform: where the drug is - literally - shared with friends.
asciilifeform: and their 'amanita muscaria'
mircea_popescu: so in a sense, rent for the ghetto is paid in grams.
the20year2: I'd love to see the data
rithm: well alcohol and tobacco consume large portions of the blue collar paycheck
rithm: mircea_popescu i have supporting data based on my surroundings that confirm your hypothesis
the20year2: i know soap theft is pretty big
mircea_popescu: the20year2 yea
mircea_popescu: rithm if us ngos were actually useful rather than a cozy retreat for useless white cunts, we'd have some research data available as to actual economic expenditure of ghetto household
the20year2: Tide? The soap?
rithm: i'm very intriqgued by the tideUSD market though
rithm: i personally operate mostly in the bezzle space obv
rithm: i'll have to do more grocery shopping to confirm this theroy
mircea_popescu: the 80s ?
mircea_popescu: rithm they do.
rithm: if only they'd print serial numbers on all those tide bottles...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/the-bezzle-usd-and-the-tide-usd/#comment-98750
navhul-lacsup: but Curtis wouldn't be excited enough to do it without reinventing the world from scratch
ozbot: "Behold the Lord High Executioner" - YouTube
navhul-lacsup: maybe a clone written for the JVM would be more popular/successful
navhul-lacsup: i like a lot of technical goals of the project, but I do worry that it is too radical to take off
diametric: punkman: maybe, i vaguely remember reading after that came out the newer shipped ones don't work
asciilifeform: they've no hardware.
asciilifeform: these folks are crackpots, quite possibly inspired by my ravings re: dataflow archs. so i am to blame.
punkman: oh sweet, you can hack these Rigols http://hackaday.com/2013/07/02/unlocking-a-rigol-scope-once-again/
mircea_popescu: benkay i don't know enough about cpus to be useful there.
navhul-lacsup: asciilifeform: yeah, I lurk there
benkay: ahoy the sub
benkay: lucky them, living in such a slow time and communing with such giants.
asciilifeform is mostly an uneducated brute, who learned of things by playing with them, and libraries.
asciilifeform: the first oscilloscope wasn't even electronic in the usual sense (mirror on a rope, deflected by electrostatic charges, candle, projects on wall)
benkay: manuals having long since disappeared from the shop.
diametric: thats the one I have, it works well for my uses.
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asciilifeform: and their purposes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude i think i actually can prove there won't be no "lead standard".
benkay: minimum bend radii, maximum cable lengths, nobody ever wanted to cram that many probes that close together before, handed the problem to resident kid.
asciilifeform: even the lowliest asian oscilloscope comes with built-in test waveform generator
asciilifeform: a kink in the cable - an inductor.
asciilifeform: just some are larger than others.
asciilifeform: in the russian wankasphere, at the time, there were countless wags suggesting nominating the drunk for 'order of lenin'
the20year2: do they put caps in styluses?
asciilifeform: incidentally, capacitance of the body is not mere trivia, but modern mobile gizmotry lives and dies by it (touch panel.)
asciilifeform: homework: calculate 'if the chinese jumped.'
asciilifeform: if we take the 69 million available men figure,
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asciilifeform: let's take the 100pF value, conservatively.
asciilifeform: but still interesting that people bother.
asciilifeform: the 'zorro' thing isn't a mega-news, on account of it being a kind of 'castrated' aes variant
mircea_popescu: a good approach is to search everywhere for another string in the history file, then wipe your password from everywhere you found keeps a copy.