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mike_c: he's not maintaining offices. just providing capital to that other company.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, in his case, maintaining offices in two states, he's setting himself up for the bomb
mircea_popescu: mike_c no i read them.
mircea_popescu: they're not even contiguous ;/
benkay: could just be buying leads, although where capital's going to come to develop them is anyone's guess-JUST KIDDING HAVELOCK
ThickAsThieves: the20year2, take it from, just stop
mike_c: yeah, we discussed. read the logs already ;)
mircea_popescu: i still don't understand the merger idea too well, tbh.
mike_c: i don't presume that at all. but it's either that, or a complete scam.
mike_c: benkay: maybe it's like an acquisition rumor. why not buy all the lower priced shares if you know it's going to be forced to 75.
mike_c: this terminology. you can only ipo once! that's why they call it "initial"
mircea_popescu: mike_c there's a different problem there : if they ipo'd at same price as before they'd have a fiat dilution on their hands.
mircea_popescu: pankkake isn't that basically the bitcoin gem "idea" ?
pankkake: they would love it
mircea_popescu: e Freud studied and have all those people looking at you and checking up on you. That's the kind of help you need. Not the once a week for eighty bucks. No. You need a team. A team of psychiatrists working round the clock thinking about you, having conferences, observing you, like the way they did with the Elephant Man. That's what I'm talking about because that's the only way you're going to get better.
mircea_popescu: JERRY: I don't even want to talk about it anymore. What were you thinking? What was going on in your mind? Artistic integrity? Where, where did you come up with that? You're not artistic and you have no integrity. You know you really need some help. A regular psychiatrist couldn't even help you. You need to go to like Vienna or something. You know what I mean? You need to get involved at the University level. Like wher
ThickAsThieves: did you not see the statement?
mircea_popescu: so basically the shill brigade is arguing this theory whereby indefinite suspensions are a good thing.
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pankkake: the amount of shares was pretty small… no one should care really
mircea_popescu: "People think that anything goes on the internet, but if Neobee was a legit stock under the jurisdiction of the SEC, all the FUD spreaders on the internet would be locked up VERY QUICKLY for the crap they have been pulling recently."
mircea_popescu: "Also, he tried to sell these(whoevers') shares under false pretense. I believe it was financial hardship?"
ThickAsThieves: btcapples seems to be the only guy to ever conduct a forum-based sale of NEOBEE shares through the LMB platform
copumpkin: then I can finally be richer than mircea_popescu
pankkake: "p.s: notice name of the seller "btcapples". A notorious spammer troll connected to Mpex. "
ThickAsThieves: what is it with people trying to connect all things they dont like to MPEx? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5958430#msg5958430
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=530091.0 << this is the poll to end all polls
decimation: Perhaps this is also related to the "beetle man" attitude
mircea_popescu: they do. mastitis is deadly.
mike_c: decimation: not necessarily a bad deal for the engineers. lot to be said for liking what you work on.
decimation: I think there was a discussion on this channel awhile back about the national security implications of cowgut in WWI Germany
mircea_popescu: dairy revolution ensured the supremacy of europe. milking is big, man.
Musk: well the Neo fud seems over for now.. :3
decimation: reading reviews of people who work at SpaceX, it's obvious the business model is "milk underpaid labor from engineers who like "space" on facebook"
mircea_popescu: what the... did i lose interwebs or did everyone somehow inexplicably shut up for two minutes
mircea_popescu: Musk well, imagine how cool it'd be if the front window'd show the explosion parameters in futura font
decimation: maybe we can wrap everyone in a titanium shell so they don't experience hardship in life
benkay: subject of more easily achievable sensor markets, check out the new client
mircea_popescu: decimation what do they know.
decimation: I think the angle here is that the "my startup life" folks in california want to jump directly to full automation. Why not mine the more easily achievable sensor augmentation market?
mircea_popescu: people would be all over your shit. 100mn of them too, because nothing gets a guy off quite like having the girl that's about to give him a blowjob think he's batman
mircea_popescu: this i think is a start-up idea right here, sell window + sensor kids for the aftermarket.
mircea_popescu: decimation obviously, lasers in the lights.
decimation: ideally you have car-mounted sensors without any blockage from the columns in the vehicle
kanzure: can you give me another analogy
mircea_popescu: about the same you pay for a speeding ticket.
mircea_popescu: do you know what 5k sq feet of floor space + garages cost in a SANE PART of the world ?
mircea_popescu: so move out of the sticks.
decimation: I find that 'modern' cameras with giant LCD's are universally worse than the old-fashioned viewfinders with baffles
asciilifeform: if there was any kind of demand for an svga ocular, the chinese would piss on the patents and we'd have them.
decimation: "how can we shape the bottom line today?"
mircea_popescu: decimation or not take out the 0.01 cent plastic stoppers
kanzure: decimation: i think that was before fpgas were on the market
asciilifeform: square in the sense of not being staggered rows (optimized for film)
mircea_popescu: mike_c he knows what he's asking. you can't really read on the things
decimation: That 'therac-25' incident is interesting, thanks for the tip. If you are making a 'firmware interlock' for a radiation machine, I would think you would at least make it in TTL or on an FPGA or something.
mike_c: well, i assume not square pixels since there's a lens right in front of your eye.
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kanzure: asciilifeform: so why is everyone such a fuckup with making these?
asciilifeform: back we go, to the days of microcomputing with tv sets
kanzure: oculus is the wrong form factor anyway
kanzure: mircea_popescu: it's the principle
asciilifeform: (the 'movie'-grade displays have staggered rgb, like the cheap camera viewfinders which... they are)
mircea_popescu: who the fuck wants to view porn on airplanes. so you get yourself all good and ready and then what ? ask the stewardess to draw the curtain and the girls to drop the tops ?
asciilifeform: if you want an ocular for something other than viewing porn on airplanes
asciilifeform: the electromechanical piece of junk features in my link is, funnily, still far ahead of what you can buy now
mircea_popescu: andyfletcher anyway, you should get a cookie for being the first commentator of the matter to have spotted it. somehow the press covered it extensively but failed to notice stuff like that.
kanzure: but the upper bound is probably 2000
Apocalyptic: on the pokemon crystal
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kanzure: asciilifeform: oh, then mike told me about you
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bounce: kanzure, just buy some gm corn in the nearest supermarket
andyfletcher: looks like the pdf was wrong in the SEC assertion that handing over the data wasn't against EU data protection regs. MEMO/13/923 and MEMO/14/60 which were approved by the EU Parliament on 2014/03/14 refer to 'all natural persons'. Not just EU citizens.
kanzure: asciilifeform: are you the p90 guy
asciilifeform: funny how my father actually spent a good deal of life doing the same (reversing western consumer junk for the soviet market)
kasa32: <mircea_popescu> I've seen some tweets about the letter you received
bounce: in a way the habitually ignored overly verbose blatter found in intrusive popups on desktops today is the other extreme... with the same effect
kanzure: asciilifeform: every time venter announces another $40M genome i just laugh
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if that worked bitcoin would be full of ceos, venture capitalists and other peaks of intellectual achievement.
mircea_popescu: "I was born like this, I had no choice. I was born with the gift of a golden voice"
bounce: apropos therac-25, that was that thing that only pooped out cryptic numbers to be looked up into large books of errors?
asciilifeform: kanzure: in my spam flick, you can see the bugger stuff a plate in a non-bot-enabled plate reader
kanzure: you're talking to the guy who reverse engineered pokemon red and crystal
bounce: by people with suitable detachment as ooposed to the usual driven to do good type
asciilifeform: idea was to get rid of the wretches hand-carrying samples to/from instruments
kanzure: asciilifeform: so did you reverse engineer the tecan protocol or did you just buy their sdk or what?
asciilifeform: rather than foam
bounce: well, though this is a dangerous suggestion, might look at some sort of theoretical underpinning of why regulating, with what overarching goal if you will. I don't really see them do more than plug holes that may or may not exist
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'therac-25'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you know the story of the irradiation accidents with medical equipment cause of this problem ?
asciilifeform: amazing how $300K machine comes with visual basic turd that often physically destroys the enclosure when the thing boots (carriages get sent to the axis limits, because $300K apparently doesn't buy you limit switches...)
kasa32: it's not like they haven't done this before
kasa32: <mircea_popescu> they can also charge you of conspiring to help US citizens avoid taxes and such and whatever charges or charge you with money laundry
mircea_popescu: bounce the curse of regulators, in all times and places, is that they can't afford to hire the sort of brainpower they need.
kanzure: asciilifeform: do you know the transcriptic.com people?
bounce: possibly. there's also them being wilfully ignorant, even impotent, in eg. the flash crash thing
mircea_popescu: there's a thousand to go that i and anyone else with a shred of sanity left would readily agree are prosecutable
mircea_popescu: bounce i don't think that discussion is yet ripe. so far they've prosecuted one guy.
asciilifeform: kanzure: it's still theoretically for sale. number of takers: zero.
bounce: they're chasing an idea of "fairness" that's a poor fit to fiat, possibly worse for bitcoin
mircea_popescu: tg2 i'd rather build organically on proved-to-work infrastructure developed in small steps
kanzure: mircea_popescu: i don't have a specific project in mind, and if i did, i would just buy the dna from a synthesis company.
kasa32: <mircea_popescu> yes but if you are called as a witness in a trial, they might bring you there by force
tg2: And issue requests for information to the SEC
asciilifeform: kanzure: tried to! even landed a conference with them. guess how it went.
mircea_popescu: kasa32 i mean because there's no such thing as an arrest in civil proceedings, and i never heard of an arrested witness yet and so on and so forth.
asciilifeform: kanzure: i actually spent 2 yrs. writing a total replacement for the idiot software stack those things came with.
kanzure: mircea_popescu: dna synthesis
mircea_popescu: kanzure ok, but the way to go WHERE
benkay: is he involved in the low-g stuff as well?
kanzure: mircea_popescu: i had a colleague on that project and he's still convinced that microfluidics is the way to go, so he's still working on that in portland
kanzure: asciilifeform: so if you know mike then how do you know me
mircea_popescu: kasa32 you must have missed the part where i told you this is a civil matter.
asciilifeform: i've been out of the business for some years, unfortunately.
kanzure: ABI etc got swallowed up and cancelled their manufacturing
kanzure: do you know of any synthesizer manufacturers that still exist? i'm aware of the refurb shops
asciilifeform: granted, 'fix' sometimes involves tearing out the electronics
asciilifeform: it is interesting to see the 'market' price of various things vs. the 'we buy it with u.s. tax dollars' price
asciilifeform: for pennies on the dollar
asciilifeform: one of the reasons why the 'DIY' bio instrumentation stuff is obscure is that ebay exists
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kanzure: there was this oligo arrayer open source project that did it for ~$20k
kanzure: but again i think this approach is probably bad; why not just build a bigger version like the traditional machines
asciilifeform: not hard if you can get the beam sweet spot
asciilifeform: cut channels, then fuse
kanzure: right.. so some friends and i were putting together an idea for using lasers to build microfluidic chips.
asciilifeform: i intend to get there. one day.
asciilifeform: the only way to get good at sourcing is to pay with one's lunch money
kasa32: <mircea_popescu> US has authority to arrest you and bring you to the US. They have done this before. Just check Liberty Reserve incident
kanzure: well to do dna synthesis on the scale that i want it, you need hundreds or thousands of microfluidic gates
kanzure: ideally you should limit the number of stupid-hard problems you are solving simultaneously..
kanzure: i've since determined that microfluidics is not the best way for now
asciilifeform: the plexiglass one - how are you pumping? SAW resonator?
kanzure: asciilifeform: terrible piles of crap, aren't they?
bounce: oh right, "solitaire (cipher)", bruce schneier vehicle for the cryptonomicon
kanzure: mircea_popescu: interesting. there's a few people showing up with my name. i want them gone.
mircea_popescu: kanzure you the comedy central guy ?
kanzure: benkay: the box builder automation stuff
benkay: jurov: a link to my post there would be neat
mircea_popescu: kasa32 these are civil proceedings.
kanzure: asciilifeform: yes i'm sure there's someone, somewhere, doing rsa in head
tg2: Sec can't do much out of the us
asciilifeform: 'how i need a drink, alcoholic of course, after the heavy lectures involving quantum mechanics.'
kasa32: <mircea_popescu> are you afraid about US taking legal action? can they bring you to US to testify?
asciilifeform: (trachtenberg was a mathematically-inclined fellow who ended up in auschwitz)
mircea_popescu: i wonder if there actually exists an irc client w/o autocompletion
asciilifeform: stage magicians do it all the time
velacreations: mircea_popescu thanks, is there a way to reference their name just by clicking on it, or do I have to type it out every time?
kasa32: since then
kasa32: did they issue more veiled threats?
mircea_popescu: kasa32 the whole thing's published, http://trilema.com/2014/interacting-with-fiat-institution-a-guide/
kasa32: <mircea_popescu> can you tell us more about the letter you received from US authorities?
asciilifeform: most people can remember enough key to make keeping some physical thing or other a reasonable proposition
asciilifeform: the 'store btc as service' folks make my brain hurt. it's as if there were suddenly chains of mega-restaurants where they pre-chew food
mircea_popescu: velacreations irc highlights people when you mention their name, no need for @s and stuff.
velacreations: @ThickAsThieves how long have you known about the suspicious trading issues?
mircea_popescu: o the reuters gal.
mircea_popescu: who was it that said she had called but then nobody picked up ?
mircea_popescu: let's not be splitting the nets.
mircea_popescu: must suck to be stuck on the shittier platform, eh ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know, just like true love reduces to you waiting ouside the door while they do it.
mike_c: "we’ll use multiple security layers to verify that you have authorized the request. This will initiate a sequence of secure steps to get your requested bitcoins transferred to your wallet within 24 hours."
asciilifeform: how do the mountain people decide whom to disgorge a key to?
ThickAsThieves: The basic reason is that, with my role being largely to facilitate transfers, I could not perform my contract without guarantee it would not make me party to the trading activity under investigation. As mentioned, Neo also recommended halting all such activity as well.
jurov: bitcoins are supposed to be mostly the backing
jurov: benkay sure it is. they do work with euros
neoncillo: I think it's not since bitcoin is not money in the EU
asciilifeform: the way that a child drawing a stick figure in mud 'begins to make sense', but a drunken hippie taking a shit onto a canvas doesn't
benkay: is NeoBee under the authority of Cypriot or EU banking regulators?
asciilifeform: well i said 'begin to' make sense, rather than 'makes sense'
asciilifeform: re: the mountain: it would at least begin to make sense if the people involved provided an actual service - say, they hold keys and try to verify that you are the meatbag the key belonged to when you walk into an anal probe chamber
mircea_popescu: frenchie kasa32 this is in the log.
kasa32: ThickAsThieves - what made you terminate the agreement since you spoke with Danny on 21st?
frenchie: TAT: can you disclose what motivated your decision to terminate the contract ?
ThickAsThieves: kanzure, no they were not
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform itd be a pretty korean thing to do, you know ? buy a mountain, sculpt the faces of great bitcoin jesuses all around, have a light at the top to represent satoshi...
kanzure: ThickAsThieves: were the terms of your contract public?
mircea_popescu: mike_c aaa, but was it built from the ground up with a cock in mind ?
mike_c: no no ascii, they have "layer on layer" of security. it'll be fine.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mostly, their head.
artifexd: ThickAsThieves Can you tell us when was the last time you had any direct communication with Danny?
frenchie: so you initiated the termination of your contract with neo for what reasons ?
mike_c: well, one way it existed until now is TaT fronted five of the funds. now he's down to zero.
mircea_popescu: you know, like coloring books, nobody says they shouldn't exist, just, they should exist in a much more fucking responseible fashion
asciilifeform: i'm just trying to wrap my puny brain around the conundrum of why 'havelock' etc. still exist
asciilifeform: phacebook luserbase might pay with anal virginity, but at least they're not spending actual money
mircea_popescu: daugthers, idem
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform question of mothers towards their young sons that got a girl pregnant, since forever :
asciilifeform: does the chumpatronium never run out?
asciilifeform: as someone quite far from all of this, i still find it interesting just how much of the '2011 bitcoin' world is still chugging along.
ljack: Yeah, I dont expect to hear the whole of it
jurov: that's why the paranormal suggestion
mircea_popescu: you mean the chan log ?!
ljack: GreenBits from the forums btw
neoncillo: aliens always ruining nice things, first egiptians, then mayans, now neobee
ljack: I dont mind them freezing it; just want to know I didnt get burned. Guys claims they are legit though
jurov: the text would be "I was notified of paranormal activity and decided to blabla"
benkay: sorta the same thing (sorta)
ljack: wasnt trying to insult; just read on the forums that you were no longer involved, was seeking clarification
ThickAsThieves: my gpg is tied to the same
ThickAsThieves: no one "missed" any announcement, so far as the asset was halted beforehand anyway
ljack: i see now; ill know better in the future
benkay: welcome ljack this is where the biz actually transpires.
BingoBoingo: Oh, the whole forum is showing up
ljack: I hate that I missed your announcement TAT, is there any chance you will be posting it in a public place besides here?