benkay: man
benkay: so i gather :(
benkay: pay me in trade baby
benkay: man i want to sell software to porn companies
benkay: who let the doge out
benkay: then who?
benkay: couldn't be.
benkay: m.p.?
benkay: who put the pills in my cookie jar?
benkay: how are you drugging me from romania?
benkay: hey that's two in as many days
benkay: no dopamine hit, no install.
benkay: not install it?
benkay: client meeting. api vendor wrangling.
benkay: pedantry later
benkay: addresses are spun up routinely. gpg keys should be treated differently.
benkay: kinda makes my point for me
benkay: sure
benkay: if you "ask" the client for more than that number of receipt addresses, your old backups become stale.
benkay: (upon generation)
benkay: iirc, wallets are written to disk with the next hundred receipt addresses
benkay: not "wiped" no but one can exceed the 100 pregenerated addresses
benkay: a gpg keypair is meant to endure through many many uses.
benkay: but btc addresses are generated and thrown away regularly in the satoshi client.
benkay: fully granted that they're both just bits on disk.
benkay: jurov: that's a little pedantic, neh?
benkay: this is one of the reasons I want a cardano.
benkay: operational security is one of those things that can be done entirely incorrectly and feel so right to the end-user.
benkay: what about btc-key based decryption of messages? do we have this yet? i've never looked for the functionality.
benkay: maybe poorly, but nowhere near as poorly as those in the wild for btc message signing.
benkay: btc keypairs are ephemeral. gpg has a whole toolchain around the use-cases for crypto that have, you know, actually been thought through.
benkay: the answer to your question is yes, ThickAsThieves.
benkay: from an opsec perspective, many disadvantages.
benkay: "we need a feature!" strikes again.
benkay: just because there's a keypair in there doesn't mean one should use it.
benkay: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjL6Y-c-HUo
benkay: your barrier is still the GPG part. no amout of user-friendliness is going to get past the challenges most internet users will have with gpg authentication.
benkay: receive and process response to challenge, return "yes" or "no" to service who's curious about a particular login
benkay: emit gpg challenge
benkay: "i am user thus and such"
benkay: wot apps are not hard
benkay: now imagine if emails cost a few satoshi.
benkay: anyone with a copy of the forum can post 0.1 on yes, post the copies and claim the reward.
benkay: 10btc on no
benkay: "archives of pre 2009 bitcointalk.org will be posted for public consumption by thus and such a date"
benkay: ha shit so in this case bitbet could be used as a bounty system
benkay: something's better than nothing!
benkay: *shrug*
benkay: midnightmagic: it'd be a blessing to history if you'd help track one down.
benkay: "Piling every proof-of-work quorum system in the world into one dataset doesn't scale"
benkay: also relevant to things
benkay: ALL MUST WADE THROUGH THE SWAMP
benkay: don't forget, BingoBoingo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3;sa=showPosts
benkay: ka-yikes.
benkay: you got off light, moiety.
benkay: link?
benkay: all local power structures are in for a serious shakeup
benkay: the smart ones are long
benkay: eh
benkay: implying these were bitterrists?
benkay: ah good the privitization of the North American polizei will begin shortly
benkay: pleaes do
benkay: you live in scotland, i gather moiety?
benkay: better kill rate than the Boeing batteries...
benkay: thrust vectoring!
benkay: back in my semi days i had major wood for the synova machines
benkay: asciilifeform: http://www.synova.ch/
benkay: mining, but with only the reward of a shiny address.
benkay: what, so that you could clean up the mess?!
benkay: mandated even, depending on jurisdiction.
benkay: moiety: and downright hypnotic to boot
benkay: ;)
benkay: yeah moiety you in trouble nao
benkay: relevant to spider sex
benkay: no wai
benkay: i was trying to render ver into some sense
benkay: your prose is so boiled down and reduced the omission of single letters can render it gibberish
benkay: a vorhees avers a virtuous stock vending
benkay: now now
benkay: oh man mp you broke my head with that sentence
benkay: cryptacular company!
benkay: a miracle!
benkay: you can send a colored coin representing what you aver to be your stock in pepsi to a stranger over the internet.
benkay: don't you see the genius?
benkay: all but colored coins being a useful thing, eh wot?
benkay: mircea_popescu, linking a USG publication as a source of useful numbers?! will miracles never cease...
benkay: there's not much worth trading at this early juncture, moiety
benkay: who is this we you go on about tonight
benkay: and what scale is it actually occuring on?
benkay: this transaction diddling thing that someone's engaging in?
benkay: is this really a ddos?
benkay: scale of ambition, i tell ya...
benkay: that's three whole houses, man.
benkay: ;;calc 157.5 * 690.66
benkay: ;;ticker --market btcavg
benkay: !t h rent
benkay: because most bitcoin-soliciting "securities" are either a) actually scams or b) don't give two shits about the US regulatory landscape.
benkay: not to my knowlege, the20year3, but I haven't read *everything* yet
benkay: fun programming exercise: make a thing that demonstrates "real" chaos
benkay: indeed indeed
benkay: chaos theory is the best theory
benkay: largest amount of btc needed to cover positions over the course of the month, right?
benkay: o/ moiety
benkay: yikes.
benkay: in sluts we trust.
benkay: go home mircea_popescu you're drunk
benkay: outta mah FACE
benkay: and i want this thing to follow me everywhere.
benkay: i want my display on one six-axis arm, and my kb on another. then i want the controller to optimize positioning of kb and monitor indpendently to optimize my posture.
benkay: FUKKEN PRIORITIES!!!@1!
benkay: fuckin priorities do you got 'em?
benkay: sitting on a ball isn't going to fix the health problem of being obese.
benkay: ;;lasers
benkay: eventually it all comes down to bits on the wire
benkay: mircea_popescu you're just cheating now
benkay: KRS-One, BingoBoingo: when gox actually folds, do you think there'll be a significant leg down?
benkay: BingoBoingo: total shitshow impending. "oh, bitcoins on sale you say? mt gox fell apart and bitcoin is still around? guess i better throw ten US shitbucks into it" waits three weeks "well damn now i need a return on my bitcoins" BS&T v.2
benkay: hey joecool
benkay: but this is similar to the web wallet threat model anyways - don't trust strangers with your bitcoins.
benkay: that is a downside to the model - unless you actually know the server operator they can deliver anything they want to your browser.
benkay: mircea_popescu: http://kyledrake.net/
benkay: aka Kyle Drake
benkay: kyledrake
benkay: it's impossible to tell, but i'll check with him sometime.
benkay: something like that, sure
benkay: more than happy to forward any comments on security/threat model to kyle
benkay: it's a zero-trust self hosted thing
benkay: yup.
benkay: not to be industrial-grade wallet for the masses.
benkay: nubbins`: the point with coinpunk is to run a web wallet for your friends.
benkay: and also good luck getting that price.
benkay: what the fuck does that have to do with anything?
benkay: coinbase?
benkay: ;;market sell 130
benkay: ;;market sell
benkay: ;;calc 696.36*132.1815
benkay: ;;ticker --market btcavg
benkay: ;;ticker --market
benkay: ponzi.io pulled in more than that in the fifteen minutes it was running
benkay: dang man
benkay: ;;calc 100000/700
benkay: how much rentalstarter have you sold through your ipo, the20year?
benkay: coming out of the btc you've raised?
benkay: i know ;)
benkay: sounds like a good chuckle to me.
benkay: "fantastic" "central ohio"
benkay: ya well see above "great way to get out of"
benkay: the preselection where the lawyers kick everyone out who has an inkling of intelligence.
benkay: voire dire?
benkay: nope. voir dire.
benkay: effectively "I will break this jury"
benkay: mhm
benkay: oh but i did
benkay: great way to get out of us jury duty: "i don't accept p-values greater than 0.001, and also I don't trust forensic 'scientists'"
benkay: oh man i used to read microgram bulletin religiously
benkay: friends tossed him over. told a story.
benkay: i suppose i coulda found some at burning man but its kinda impolite to walk up to strangers saying "hi i've never actually found real acid and i'm hoping to find some this week can you introduce me to someone?"
benkay: i actually gave up on ever trying real lsd.
benkay: i gave up on finding any.
benkay: there's real lsd going around again?
benkay: so yes, distracted.
benkay: he claimed a degree of constant synasthesia. was also pretty thoroughly autistic. the story was that he couldn't see his screen when voices got loud.
benkay: i once worked for a gentleman who when voices were raised above a certain threshold in meetings would visibly lose his ability to read his monitor
benkay: guess i'm a big boy now
benkay: ah hey i caught my first negrating, y'all
benkay: ;;gettrust moiety
benkay: ;;lasers
benkay: welcome to assets, herbijudlestoids
benkay: no nubbins` this 'kill everyone' is the actual plan. all of the above are just implementation details.
benkay: well you're filthy communists.
benkay: "have some tv, water, food-paste, sharps, internet. go to town, kids! just don't leave the tower."
benkay: just a short slide from locking all of the undesireables up in crappy hi-rises. i endorse.
benkay: everyone's a burden on healthcare, moiety. idiots who eat too many carbs and develop diabetes are vastly more expensive than junkies.
benkay: no to be flip but idiots with btc = scam burden
benkay: but mitigates i guess?
benkay: doesn't really address the heroin side of things, though.
benkay: i seriously do not get it. consider it a flaw of youth, and this your opportunity to larn me a thing.
benkay: nubbins`: what, crack addicts are addicted already?
benkay: nubbins`: how can you be cool with crack pipes and not pmbs?
benkay: it's lolarious.
benkay: babeface walked into a sharp thing on my mother's pilates reformer last night, and then went running/sledding drunk and naked in the snow afterwards. now she's dancing around the apartment wincing and cursing whenever she lands on the bum leg.
benkay: cock cages?
benkay: no, no. a hand-cranked mill that mills powders into well-mixed other powders.
benkay: then mill the components into powder on demand?
benkay: if you're really hedging against needing lots of bullets wouldn't it be better to throw down the cash for a milling machine and buy the individual chemical components?
benkay: Detroit isn't even a proper city any more.
benkay: you won't catch me in detroit any time soon. the only dystopian megalopolis i'm interested in is buenos aires.
benkay: i love how american movies are 90% animated these days. actual actors must just be too damn expensive or the profit margins just darn slim.
benkay: i saw a trailer for a new robocop last night
benkay: "i'm doing a survey on sexual practices. oh hey! you're right up my alley - come with me, i'm going to insert someone else in you."
benkay: not a bad pitch
benkay: time for*
benkay: don't know that that's a calculation i really have time or interest in. sounds more like piles of time spent surveying that'd be better spent recruiting the surveyed into my bed
benkay: did you mean solace?
benkay: .bait is a solitary activity, yes...
benkay: i forewent standard deviant 'cause i expect too much from y'all apparently
benkay: (also come on does no one appreciate the standard deviation pun?)
benkay: also yes i do but that's not the point i'm making.
benkay: intromissionary?
benkay: having sex at all makes one a fucking weirdo these days. more than one partner? you're at least three standard deviations out.
benkay: unless you have sex only in the missionary position you're a fucking weirdo, mircea_popescu.
benkay: what, you think the kids were actually moving weight?
benkay: Thomas Cushman, 48; Robert Vineberg, 57; Juliana Luchkiw, 22; and Max Rosenblum, 22
benkay: sounds like the cops just wanted an excuse to bust that ring
benkay: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/philip-seymour-hoffman-knew-die-drug-report-article-1.1601596
benkay: oh are we talking about bitcoin again?
benkay: wow wenn die soldaten is like 9 minutes long
benkay: blue collar workers don't get a say in what's pumped in their ears on-shift.
benkay: there are no contracts, so nobody can be certain of anything.
benkay: thanks, mike_c!
benkay: disconnect from the doomed fiat systems.
benkay: far better to save up some cash and be the premiere btc accountant.
benkay: ah, sorry? as in taking the burn for not spending btc at the right time?
benkay: naively, at the last possible moment. more sophisticatedly, at the right time.
benkay: this is what executive leadership is for. deciding when to burn the btc.
benkay: well in three months time it'll be back to 'aha aren't you glad we didn't spend anything' again
benkay: oh minigame's looking to burn some cash?
benkay: yeah no shit
benkay: "you can raise it, but now you have to spend it optimally"
benkay: the curse of volatility.
benkay: now with discussion of mike_c's "you can raise it but you can't spend it"
benkay: BingoBoingo: updated http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/02/08_on-the-importance-of-contracts-the-rentalstarter-case.html
benkay: you must have coins to burn.
benkay: wow that's a bold position
benkay: mircea_popescu relevant posts updated. thanks for the proofing ;)
benkay: ;;ud mego
benkay: w/r/t proofing mircea_popescu, i learned from you to just write the thing, post it, and come back and tweak it if necessary later
benkay: well i was going to write a tcp client test harness today but then got distracted and this came out instead: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/02/08_when-you-know-you-done-fucked-up-but-cant-admit-it-in-public.html
benkay: nasty mining is still a thing, innit? can't say as I've gotten much past april 2012
benkay: ah
benkay: so what happened at expiration?
benkay: but BS&T did fail to issue the number of promised bonds, and you were relieved of your obligation were you not?
benkay: those are additional facts, sure
benkay: well, do enlighten.
benkay: o!
benkay: pmb, unless i miss my read.
benkay: luke claims that because his counterparty didn't file claims within some window of time he was absolved of his obligation to pay.
benkay: furthermore, that project is on hold.
benkay: not epic at all. barely 4% of the way through known assets.
benkay: i do but mircea_popescu is so much better at it.
benkay: how'd that get published!?
benkay: dorp
benkay: wat?
benkay: such point
benkay: ya well not all americans are entirely uneducated