billymg: mp_en_viaje: yup, i'll be there permanently as of next monday. just figured i'd doubly confirm that i'll be around that weekend
billymg: count me in for the 28th as well
mp_en_viaje: cuz they're hard to make, you know, chinese sheet can be had for what, $3. threadbare sheet can be had for 5-10k nights slept in, and handwashing weekly. what's that cost, $1mn ?
mp_en_viaje: nah, lifetime poor people are universally cleaner than the suburban priss mind gives them credit (on the basis of their very limited experience of bums, who are very specifically NOT the same thing -- a bum is an idiot with delusions of grandeur, a poor kid from a poor family is simply bereft of means)
mp_en_viaje: of course, if you're curious you can also go live downtown, hire a room in one of the prostitute hotels, get some very real 1950s bronx experience under your belt.
mp_en_viaje: heredia (where the local aspie class huddles) is pretty shitty, santa ana insanely expensive, escazu full of retarded (mostly retired) gringos.
mp_en_viaje: in any case, try and get a place on the west side, all the nice beaches are on the pacific coast, it'll save you an hour or so in infernal tico trafic to cross the town.
mp_en_viaje: everything else is you know, subrural. not as in, evansville rural, but as in "there is not a hotel here, just a gas station" rural.
jfw: heh, well whaack managed to find a beach with a commute to the grocery store
jfw: mp_en_viaje: what would be the town to stay in?
jfw: mp_en_viaje: alright, I'll go for Saturday March 28th. If that works for others too, so much the merrier.
mp_en_viaje: jfw, well, i plan on maybe going to rio late may ; other than that i'll be mostly around. pick a day, i don't specifically care which and it doesn't make any sense for you to try and coordinate with large groups at large distances -- if indeed there's a gathering you can take the hourish trip down again, at the considerable cost to you of a lunch out or w/e it is.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-01 11:36:55 mp_en_viaje: dorion, jfw bvt lobbes spyked & other interested parties -- you wanna make something of it ?
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-01 10:35:31 trinque: not tabled, and I apologize for the delay. I think it needs about one more post, and then there'll be a whole item described. I've been digging into that this weekend, ought to be able to squeeze it out today or tomorrow.
dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-01#1958692 - you had said the next would how V enters the picture. Is that still the plan ? did you expand and roll the spec you had in mind in there ?
mod6: mp_en_viaje: Ahhh, alright, thanks for the update.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-14 08:58:52 mircea_popescu: i will want a full release ready to go concomitantly, so if your client isn't liable to be around then maybe deed it prior.
mp_en_viaje: but yeah, we're still in the original plan, should be done by end of march.
mod6: mp_en_viaje: Hey there, Sir. Now that you're back to CR (glad you had a good trip), plz to process mpex withdrawls when you have an extra few minutes. Thanks in advance.
dorion: aok. we sent him the proposal today, so we'll soon find out.
dorion: what are the best ways to verify such claims in your experience ?
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-01 14:36:47 mp_en_viaje: "On the more positive side, based on what he has told us, he made a career from designing and implementing HFT systems for a wide range of fiat exchanges and instruments. He told us at one point he was paying $20k/month for leased lines." << from experience, none of these claims are ever true. [http://trilema.com/2014/how-the-other-half-lives-or-michael-o-church-is-a-scummy-fuckwit/?b=roughly%20Di&e=equivalent#sel
dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-01#1958744 - thanks for the link and reality check. I have been skeptical given the negatives noted. all I've been able to find so far to verify is his partner's finra brokercheck checks out with his linkedin - for whatever those are worth.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2020/the-buller-podington-compacts/ << Trilema -- The Buller-Podington Compacts.
mp_en_viaje: a look, links the article. a ok
ossabot: Logged on 2016-09-10 09:16:45 mircea_popescu: hard to properly word a "company not around" clause is the problem. according to usg, ibm and cisco are both "still around".
mp_en_viaje: trinque, the problem with your proposal is that the article isn't yet loaded at that point.
billymg: trinque: i haven't looked closely enough at it yet to say but i will check out get_header and see if i can get it working that way. ty for the lead on that
trinque: if the problem with wp is that it was designed "for everybody", putting improvements in an optional codepath (themes) seems exactly the wrong thing.
trinque: mp_en_viaje: I might be able to travel in summer, don't mind the mugginess as long as there's beach.
diana_coman: bvt: http://ossasepia.com/2020/02/29/a-basic-requirement-for-the-literate-introducing-of-new-tools/#comment-7673
mp_en_viaje: "On the more positive side, based on what he has told us, he made a career from designing and implementing HFT systems for a wide range of fiat exchanges and instruments. He told us at one point he was paying $20k/month for leased lines." << from experience, none of these claims are ever true. [http://trilema.com/2014/how-the-other-half-lives-or-michael-o-church-is-a-scummy-fuckwit/?b=roughly%20Di&e=equivalent#select][people just say thi
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, a aite then.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i just did it, so yeah. fly avianca though, via colombia, leaving either spain or germany. easily the best airline over the atlantic today.
bvt: mp_en_viaje: http://ossasepia.com/2020/02/29/a-basic-requirement-for-the-literate-introducing-of-new-tools/#comment-7669
bvt: ty. if you gzip the work directory and publish it somewhere i'll look into it as well. i also took a stab at indented flow output (http://bvt-trace.net/2020/02/vsh-parts-25-and-3-one-binary-ada-solver-and-ada-vfilter-implementation/#comment-150)
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Thank you. I've been making progress fitting more of the tools in my hand and building with them. diana_coman is working me on how to plan, re-examining my relationship with time and how I budget it, and grounding myself in practicality. I've surrendered to diana_coman's mastery and the breaches in my head aren't completely closed yet, but I'm surrendered and working her program.
diana_coman: bvt: I'll have to check closer what's going wrong with the script on my machine as there seems to be some weird going on, possibly at output rather than anything deeper.
billymg: (the roadmap article that is)
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: thank you and no worries at all; I hope I didn't come across as not wanting to visit either, it's more the 12+ hours travel one way that gives me pause.
billymg: mp_en_viaje: agree. ugh, yeah, i've really been meaning to publish a roadmap for mp-wp that others can comment on
mp_en_viaje: billymg, with it, one gets the great advantage that pingbacks to his blog also link to the correct place in the article, which imo is big.
mp_en_viaje: mind though that you include the whole shebang, the reason i linked to that comment rather than the article plainly is that the ~correct~ auto-select stubs on pingback were only introduced there
mp_en_viaje: billymg, i think that'd be the salutary thing ; that wayy it'll at least carry over passively through edits
billymg: at least as an interim until proper theming in mp-wp is solved, just so the correct select mechanism is at least included in the package on first press
billymg: as for vpatching the server side select mechanism, since mp-wp ships with two base themes a patch could at least be made to include the select mechanism in those. seeing as how most people copy/paste one of the included theme directories to customize/create their own
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, well, the problem with anywhere not-here is that the summers do get too hot and the winters too cold. i intend to travel maybe to brazil may-ish, but otherwise i expect i'll be mostly around, so if you feel like it...
ossabot: Logged on 2020-02-18 19:29:06 diana_coman: mircea_popescu: to my mind the "no one user matters more than another" means of course "no user matters at all" ; because it follows by necessity.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-01 11:28:37 mp_en_viaje: in my mind the ideal theme would be a config file, not the current pile of actually executable files wth theme is that. columns = 2; main = left ; main = 2/3; is a theme.
billymg: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-01#1958703 << i have a strong feeling the reason it's *not* this, and the reason the mp-wp genesis is 7x the size of trb genesis by LOC, is because it was designed by the "no one user matters more than another" crowd
diana_coman: I honestly have no idea; I did obtain finally all the possible passports though so at least I *can* go anywhere.
mp_en_viaje: the idea of the dead reckoning bus seating is fabulous. "hello sir, your seat is three steps left from greeting stewardess, two steps right after that"
diana_coman realises she did not take a pic of the steak!
mp_en_viaje: dorion, jfw bvt lobbes spyked & other interested parties -- you wanna make something of it ?
mp_en_viaje: then if people don't use the proper linking thing and the dysfunctional js one becomes too entrenched we'll be stuck with it forever and so on and so forth.
mp_en_viaje: such that someone could try out a theme without having to ~read code~ or worry that who knows what rm -rf is in there
mp_en_viaje: in my mind the ideal theme would be a config file, not the current pile of actually executable files wth theme is that. columns = 2; main = left ; main = 2/3; is a theme.
mp_en_viaje: i practically have the choice of either publishing a screamingly offensive non-patch in november of 2019, or else wait until there's a place to meaningfully add it as a patch ; which necessarily is stalled on "what the fuck is the correct cut for themes, cuz it seems evident it isn't what's now done", which in turn rests on a half dozen or so more nodes that are all further away from what is actually being worked now.
mp_en_viaje: the whole "theme" thing is iffy, and part and parcel of why this particular tree (mp-wp) is so deeply misbehaving is that it rests upon a large pile of intricate design errors and failures.
mp_en_viaje: trinque, rather open ended
diana_coman: trinque: the ref for the select mechanism is mp_en_viaje's link above aka the article on trilema really; not a vpatch as such afaik.
trinque: there's a get_header func or something, could come in via that.
trinque: I've also done some spelunking in the php myself, and there might be other ways to pull it in aside theme, if I can see the patch
trinque: diana_coman: could perhaps include it as a util you can pull into your theme or not
trinque: re: CR, is there a meeting planned, or is this an open ended question?
trinque: not tabled, and I apologize for the delay. I think it needs about one more post, and then there'll be a whole item described. I've been digging into that this weekend, ought to be able to squeeze it out today or tomorrow.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: if trinque means indeed that aka the selection mechanism,that is anyway not going to be in the tree since it requires a change to the *theme*'s file, no?
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i suspect billymg 's thing might not actually include http://trilema.com/2019/proper-html-linking-the-crisis-the-solution-the-resolution-conclusion/#comment-132249
diana_coman: trinque: but I am not sure I follow what you say there - what do you mean by quoting? the select?
mp_en_viaje: trinque, cool. so... line1, basically the linux discussion on yoru blog is tabled till q2 ? till 2021 ? something in between ? line 2. we gonna read the story of that win and turning or is it likely to have to be sikrit ?
trinque recently fixed his theme and sidebar, so hopefully it's otherwise in a somewhat more useful state
trinque: I don't have w/e patch improves the quoting mechanism apparently
trinque: diana_coman: I'm happy to "fix my quoting". Who is the source of truth for mpwp?
ossabot: (trilema-hanbot) 2020-02-17 BingoBoingo: hanbot_abroad diana_coman: The problem of identifying an article url on a blog url without importing python or something else heavy has me stumped, so I've been reconsidering the possibility of blasting out a crawl over serveral degrees. The flow filewise would be something like 'churn' to 'churndomains' to 'churn2' to 'churndomains2' and so on out to the ending on a list of all the urls scraped in the third or four
mp_en_viaje: why all the spurts, man ?
mp_en_viaje: and speaking of http://ossasepia.com/2020/02/29/a-basic-requirement-for-the-literate-introducing-of-new-tools/#fn3-5091 what's trinque up to these days ?!
mp_en_viaje: hanbot hey remember http://trilema.com/2013/since-theres-no-end-of-these-unidentified-pointless-objects/ ? :D
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in other lulz, https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+to+wear+make-up+in+a+god+honoring+way
mp_en_viaje: there was a time when amelia bedelia was a funny character.
mp_en_viaje: "diana : just bring them here. page, after a time : here's a sketch i drew of me bringing them over."
mp_en_viaje: it's going to end up a satirical piece, "diana : fetch me my arms! page, after a time : i went in the arms room and looked around, saw arms there. diana : good, now fetch. page, after another time : i lifted various over the head, and came back to tell after setting them down again. room for improvmenent : next time ima set them back down in the same places i lifted therm up from"
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, amusingly enough, if one were tasked to discuss your evolution over the past decade, it'd inescapably run something like "she moved on -- from the theoretical, to the practical". am i detaining you from the day's restatement in #o of the basic explanations re "somewhat of a superficial approximation of work" or have you already done the day's quota ?
mp_en_viaje: i don't recall where's included that picture with the 12yo boy looking angry from under an abundance of spurious shaving cream, but anyways.
mp_en_viaje: "Filozofii Regi si Parlamentul Perfect - Also Sprach Zamolxis" how do you like them apples! gnat can't survive a decade, mouthfulla big ticket items, philosophers, kings, why the hell not.
diana_coman can't find ofc the article on own blog though I think I did write it.
diana_coman: heh, that reminds me of a "work of art" that answered the q of why is Italy shaped like a boot: because that much shit would never fit in a shoe!
mp_en_viaje: honestly, if they had forbidden italians travel back in say 1920, it might've saved argentina.
diana_coman: ahahah; I thought it was Italy the trouble now!
mp_en_viaje: the costa ricans wanted to know whether i visited china, iran or korea in the interval. i wanted to know how they arrived at the list. they wanted to know if i don't watch the news or what's my problem.
diana_coman: re flu it's all right, I'm sure there's plenty of advice and "we'll take care of it" everywhere, except I never quite bother to look and it didn't seem to make any difference
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: ah, with the 1st of Feb, yes; as the silent poison said the circus is still on though.
mp_en_viaje: right, maybe if they do it themselves. but eventually did quit the eu ? or still "men at work, road closed" ?
mp_en_viaje: how's the coronal flu in england proud these days ? have ye sad lot seceeded from scotland yet ?
diana_coman: ahaha, all right then.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: the lanky blonde whores don't seem to be native to cr, lol
diana_coman: hm, I recall reading the mention + there was surely something in one of your stories but no handle for search comes to mind right now.
diana_coman: well, it takes hard work to get dumb, so ...proud of all the effort!
mp_en_viaje: of course the perverse part of this is that home turns out to be a tiny unknown strip of jungle 1/4 globe away from my place of birth. but then again, what can you do.
mp_en_viaje: whereas the common yurpean is proud of how fucking dumb he's come to be.
mp_en_viaje: can't even put into words the "how come", it's just simply that everyone in costa rica is stupid naturally and only to the extension it can't be helped,
ossabot: Logged on 2020-02-29 19:38:43 mp_en_viaje: eleven months and a common man's fortune expended towards the scouring of olde yurp has in the end made me quite happy to be back home.
mp_en_viaje: billymg, just about, wanna-be ameristan. god knows they're spending every available moment clucking at their cluckers. how exactly would that produce substantially different results is anyone's guess.
deedbot: dorion rated spyked 7 << owns feedbot and is mapping TMSR OS hardware. writes at thetarpit.org.
deedbot: dorion rated bvt 7 << he's beating the Linux kernel into human use. very knowledgeable and capable across a wide technical spectrum. writes at bvt-trace.net.
deedbot: dorion rated BingoBoingo 7 << not afraid to confront and strengthen his weak arm. writes at bingology.net ; editor of qntra.net ; though Pizarro failed, he handled the liquidation well.
deedbot: dorion rated hanbot 9 << she delivered numerous righteous smackdowns to idiots as MPOE-PR to help protect Bitcoin during its infancy. writes at thewhet.net
deedbot: dorion rated mircea_popescu 9 << the part of you that doesn't like what he says is probably the part holding you back. long history of protecting the intelligent from idiots. MPEx/S.MPOE ; trilema.com ; go, read.
billymg: from your travelog articles it seems like europe is not much different from usia in terms of cultural decay, i.e. the sysco food, the hipsters and their oh-so-cool detachment, the clerks with their "i'm sorry, we can't do that, it's the 'policy'"
mp_en_viaje: eleven months and a common man's fortune expended towards the scouring of olde yurp has in the end made me quite happy to be back home.
billymg: mp_en_viaje: yeah, unfortunately not quite yet, very close though with most of the difficult items sorted
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile met a spanish/swiss developer (an' his lovely ukrainian gf). seems everyone here's doing land development these days.
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2020/02/29/a-basic-requirement-for-the-literate-introducing-of-new-tools/ << Ossa Sepia -- A Basic Requirement for the Literate Introducing of New Tools
mod6: Hey all, here's the Foundation report for February: http://thebitcoin.foundation/reports/btcf_address_202002.txt
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2020-02-28#1958568 << agreed on the !later tell not being that useful. And sounds like a plan; I'll have on my list to roll the !Qcalc into auctionbot and retire lobbesbot
billymg: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-02-28#1958554 << hiya mp, yup still alive. i've just been finishing up the last few pieces of the move and if all goes well should be in cr in about a week
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2020/our-democracy-or-rather-mostly-theirs/ << Trilema -- Our democracy, or rather mostly theirs.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-02-28 01:24:04 mp_en_viaje: talking about later tell, it seems the only practical usage actually is to annoy people : either they do read the log, in which case it's spurious, or else they don't read the log, in which case it doesn't do anything useful.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-02-28#1958559 - I have no use for it either and precisely for this reason that it's enough if it's in the logs as far as I see it.
mp_en_viaje: needs its breaks, the poor darling/
mp_en_viaje: motherfucker this piece of shit, internet that works like schoolchildren brains, fifty minutes out of the hour.
mp_en_viaje: but the point remains, that functionality, "you have to pay 1.76 million ~~~because this and that and so and so~~~" is the only sane way to go about things.
mp_en_viaje: i can't be arsed to drag out where in the log this point was made for ignoramus asciilifeform 's benefit, HEY, JUSTIFY PRICES LIKE CIVILISED PEOPLE,
mp_en_viaje: it seems to me it does provide a significant service for that particular use, because it permits players to show each other the bills of trade correctly.
mp_en_viaje: whereas the calc function seems was only ever extensively used in #eulora, for inter-player trade.
mp_en_viaje: ully detached from it -- so if the person doesn't read that day's log, they miss out on that day's log, necessarily including the point in question.
mp_en_viaje: i guess as a concept it harkens back from an olden time, when people were comparatively more superficially equipped and more superficially involved ; today the proper avenue for making a timeline-breaching note on some topic is a comment the person's blog (and if they don't have one that'd cotextually-support the concern then "person" who ?) ; whereas non-timeline-breaching points obviously belong in their day's log context, as they can't be meaningf
mp_en_viaje: talking about later tell, it seems the only practical usage actually is to annoy people : either they do read the log, in which case it's spurious, or else they don't read the log, in which case it doesn't do anything useful.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-02-16 13:47:23 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2020-02-16#1958115 << the toilet vps lobbesbot is on is down again. Will see what they say. (honestly atm lobbesbot has ~only two used commands: !Qlater-tell and !Qcalc ; instead of finding a new home for lobbesbot I'd rather just make another bot do those and retire the thing. But I've got other botworks in the queue)
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-02-16#1958123 << pretty much said as much. honestly, from practice it seems the functionality is not really all that useful.
mp_en_viaje: ourdemocracy.tar.gz 14% 11MB 107.2KB/s 09:44 ETA << hhurray for technologically advanced germany, gloriously confronting the challenges of 1990
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: the news is at most in what it found to suck, lolz.
mp_en_viaje: in other news from ourdemocracy lands, socialism sucks.
mp_en_viaje: yes, indeed. asciilifeform has a whole lot of those. can sure take more -- the overwhelming abundance to date hasn't bothered anything, so definitely could double, triple, infinite-etc.
mp_en_viaje: you wanna be useful, be useful in the way of being useful, not in the way of you wanna.
mp_en_viaje: i met plenty of would-be producers. what's the actual market for it /
mp_en_viaje: who are these "folks" consuming this nonsense ? i've never met one. did you ?
mod6: I'll make a proper post on my blog, indeed. Just want to get this out for folks; now that there is a wedger tool out there, and it's been a number of days of reorccuring wedges.
mp_en_viaje: or what exactly is the idea, erryone's gonna be so fucking impressed with the whole "oh, you know what, ye olde bitcoin has, among its many race conditions, one where you can dos it by getblock spam" that we'll just move right back on to 2015 ? it ain't ever gonna be 2015 again, make a blog, find a master, do some work AS THEY DIRECT YOU, and so on.
mp_en_viaje: mod6, suppose instead of all this ad-hoc "emergency" pantsuit nonsense you make a proper blog, like normal people, follow the path, like normal people, etcetera.
mod6: Going to push up my logs & notes, and then make a vpatch.
mod6: Took some work and chasing some red-herrings in net.h. I drove through the testing and changes while asciilifeform helped think me through the problem.
mod6: bvt: et, al. Still testing/debugging. Tried an experimental vpatch, didn't work. Going to make some changes and continue on. Here's the latest logs for the curious: http://www.mod6.net/wedger/mod6_wedger_test2.log http://www.mod6.net/wedger/trb_debug_wedgerpy_test2.log
mod6: bvt: et, al. Was able to use alf's wedger tool to replicate the problem. It took exactly 1 try. Here's my notes and debug.log (renamed) from the test: http://www.mod6.net/wedger/mod6_wedger_test1.log http://www.mod6.net/wedger/trb_debug_wedgerpy_test1.log
mod6: If others have this same type of behavior, please write in and say, show us the debug.log if you can. Thanks.
mod6: Apparently main.cpp:ProcessMessage() allows for quite a number of these getdata commands before flagged as 'Misbehaving'. But I've not seen waves like this before now. Quite possible I've just not seen them either tho.
mod6: Happy to provide the 12G log if you want that, or a shorter one that shows on 22nd or 23rd my node starting, then getting wedged after wave.
mod6: When alf alerted about this wedge on the 22nd, I was quick to point out this wave of stuff that I don't typicaly see.
mod6: I have a debug.log that is ~12G that goes back ~3 mos to block #605198, i do see those requests, but in the dozens at a time at most. but not a tidal wave of tens of thousands.
diana_coman waves a generated-sphere-on-a-bone-that-is-not-a-bone-they-are-idiots
bvt: anyone debug.log snapshots of wedge: did the period before wedge involve a large number of continous block requests?
bvt: well, the only thing i feel bad about in this situation is that for some time i was getting wedged in ~30 min, did not check the logs, assumed the DB corruption, rolled back to month-old chain snapshot without keeping the current
mp_en_viaje: bvt, don't feel too bad, this is a massive problem owing to the insanity of the gearbox involved. the vast majority of historically observed wedges were never reproduced
BingoBoingo: bvt: Go for it, but do edit your .htaccess rules to require the retrieving referrer to be set to your blog's url. Probably best not to keep it up forever.
bvt: BingoBoingo: ok if i upload the data to anyserver? it's 3Gb compressed.
bvt: mod6 or anyone else interested in this wedged bitcoind condition: do you want to get the coredump and the binary?
bvt: mod6: ty, i will try to figure out what is going on further
mod6: Thanks for the article & trace bvt.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-02-24 00:47:20 mp_en_viaje: anyways, why struggle with your "a sense of worthlessness" ? embrace it. you ARE fucking worthless, what of it. of course you are, there you sit an alleged adult, scraping corrosion off the free part of battery terminals, as if this purely aesthetic approach to technology will do something ; and then calling the exact thing applied elsewhere "research" for purely psychotic reasons, and so on in this vein all aroun
ossabot: Logged on 2020-02-24 00:32:40 mp_en_viaje: so no, you didn't do any research. you used your tv to read webistes, they used their tv to watch soccer games. both are the exact same activity -- leisurable passtimes. gringo pomous nonsense where you think they're niggers and you also think you're god's chosen and therefore their masturbation is jacking off while your masturbation is "research" is a (rather offensive, at that) religious belief of very little th
whaack: which way for 20 weeks straight has made my worthlessness clear. The "struggle with 'sense' of worthlessness" is really a "struggle with 'acceptance' of worthlessness".
whaack: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-02-24#1958477 Alright, I am the one who is more niggardly. I could be wrong about connecting to the chasis for all I know. The car owner's method of deciding how to wire the jump based off experienced is better than mine which is based off of google vomit. http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-02-24#1958481 I embrace it. Writing about failing every
hanbot_abroad: mp_en_viaje hrm, seems self-evident but apparently not a coupla years ago? i'll have another look, atm tho' on the brink of disconnectivity. in curand & scl!
mp_en_viaje: speaking of which hey hanbot_abroad it's femInin not femenin. i can see why you'd make the mistake, but they're right, it's femina not femena ; and besides famen's a word.
mp_en_viaje: o wait wait, it's "i don't have to actually do, because [http://thewhet.net/2017/01/feminine-exceptionalism/?b=The%20follow&e=The%20following%20is%20a[n%20attempt%20at]%20translation%20of%20the%20Trilema%20piece%20Exceptionalismul%20feme#select][i am worth]", i recall beating speshul cuntlets black and blue over the same delusionary approach, yes, yes, certainly.
mp_en_viaje: hat you do in your "inner struggles" as well, dick about with the visible corrosion around the clamps.
mp_en_viaje: anyways, why struggle with your "a sense of worthlessness" ? embrace it. you ARE fucking worthless, what of it. of course you are, there you sit an alleged adult, scraping corrosion off the free part of battery terminals, as if this purely aesthetic approach to technology will do something ; and then calling the exact thing applied elsewhere "research" for purely psychotic reasons, and so on in this vein all around, it's w
mp_en_viaje: as to the practical matters, the only use of coca cola is as corrosion stripper, especially off metal ; baking soda i guess works, but honestly i never used any rust stripper besides the great products of the coca cola co in decades, there's no need to.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-02-19 21:23:42 mircea_popescu: "literate" veals, very capable of scribbling their own name in an alphabet of their choice (somehow nobody notices "using an alphabet of your own choice" is THE OPPOSITE OF SPELLING, and the exact definition of illiteracy -- all the fucking farmhands who can't read or write COULD scribble something down, anyone can screech random squgg;lies, with a shovel in a pile of dirt, with their own piss on driven snow, f
mp_en_viaje: value (its practical value as "protestantism" ie, "we don't need to learn proper latin, let the scripture be translated in vernacular" notwithstanding)
mp_en_viaje: so no, you didn't do any research. you used your tv to read webistes, they used their tv to watch soccer games. both are the exact same activity -- leisurable passtimes. gringo pomous nonsense where you think they're niggers and you also think you're god's chosen and therefore their masturbation is jacking off while your masturbation is "research" is a (rather offensive, at that) religious belief of very little theological
mp_en_viaje: research is a term of art, it's done a certain way and by certain people, it is NOT done by dumbphone monkeys on
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2020-02-23 whaack: BingoBoingo: From jumping with someone who owns 8+ cars and jumper cables but did not know you could connect the cable to the chasis on the dead car, I gather that people here do not research how to do things and instead learn only from experience. This could be true also with the mechanic, so I will consult with the mechanic and use his tools but I will take his advice with a grain of salt and
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile #ossasepia is turned the lulz of all time. http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-02-23#1019288 << dude. going through some spam html google was gamed into vomiting back at you is NOT research.
mp_en_viaje: whaack, you know, none of my cars yet broke down. stop buying fucking lemons -- all these "recent" makes, all the toyotas and whatnots are NOT WORTH MONEY. spend 5k on a pre-2010 mercedes before you spend 50k on a yesterday's shoe.
mp_en_viaje: hanbot_abroad, they meanwhile grabbed on "democracy" to describe the ~same sterile intellectual fashion.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-02-23 03:22:44 mp_en_viaje: yet the lulz of "young america" / lyceum & chautuqua movement is evidently related to that earlier euro attempt at cliffnote-everything. "how to be just like yurp on the cheap", ever the dream of the colonies.
hanbot_abroad: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-02-23#1958451 << i don't know of many US-driven notions as major in their time or as utterly forgotten by now as this chautauqua thing --at least nominally; ultralame "community"-ing still pushed as a thing by descendants of the same lamers, but the name's entirely absent.
lobbes: This script was on a cron job initially, but ever since douchebag pooped in the input I moved to manual. The whole archive process is due for a recode; but I deemed it low priority since.. well I read the logs and the logs are the only input so I reason this manual stop-gap approach is fine for now
lobbes: I hadn't pulled the crank it some time but just did now; it'll attempt snarf all links the bot has seen since dec 24th (probably will take about 2 hours to run I'd say)
lobbes: mp_en_viaje: my bad on the archive. The "submit links to archive.is and download" portion of the process is initialized manually (I just run a shell script and it does the rest).
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, probably after you attend to the actually pressing breaches in own head
BingoBoingo: I've got a little bit on Emerson. This next generation was roughly the first to get charged with implementing the idiocy.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: This is a project I could start warming up again and structuring as I work on building my toolset and working towards some sort of actual rather than UStarded level of literacy. If I break these particular mid-19th century retards up into bite sized chunks and publish indictments/annotations on the blog in a structured way, I would be filling a gap in documenting how intentional the failure of US "education" was.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Beyond the old, I've got some scribblings on William Torrwy Harris, Anna Bracket, the failure of "St. Louis Normal School/Harris-Stowe State College" that aren't very organized at present. Harris and Bracket have some essays on the intentionally severing children's connections to the real world to better shape them into
mp_en_viaje: ircus, which was then recolonized by vaudeville)
mp_en_viaje: (all this sprung up at the time out of a sort of "positive socialism", whereby some strand of the pulpit lobby came up with the idea of constructing some kind or manner of alternatives to hanging out in bars, as part and parcel of their dogged dedication to destroying their opposition as they perceived it. the end product was a sort of pompous and boring c
mp_en_viaje: yet the lulz of "young america" / lyceum & chautuqua movement is evidently related to that earlier euro attempt at cliffnote-everything. "how to be just like yurp on the cheap", ever the dream of the colonies.
mp_en_viaje: i recall some passing mention here and there, maybe
mp_en_viaje: say BingoBoingo, did your discussion of the "young^H^H^H socialist hegelians" an' the broad programme of teh mid 1800s geared towards the systematic falsification of history to better support the socialist mindset ever arrive at any structured anything ?
mp_en_viaje: in other lulz, "All history is to be re-written; political science and the whole scope of all moral truth have to be considered and illustrated in the light of the democratic principle. All old subjects of thought and all new questions arising, connected more or less directly with human existence, have to be taken up again and re-examined."
mp_en_viaje: lobbes, so did the archiving of links in chan die sometime around dec 24th ?
mp_en_viaje: it could have mattered a lot more, in theory, in 2016. today, having it on or off is ~same.
mp_en_viaje: ultimately, alfisms like the 'malleus_mikehearnificarum' are of little political consequence, coming as they are from an ispless band of socially isolated autists.
mp_en_viaje: the private networks are generally obscure and mostly handrolled ; but they do not differ as much as the people involved like to imagine.
mp_en_viaje: as far as the public network's concerned everyone's stuck with some version of postel's nonsense for the obvious reasons
jfw: mod6: do we have any picture of what software the larger miners are running these days? Because that's the possibly-prb-afflicted network I'd rather not be isolated from.
mod6: Your notion is correct on the former, 'more exposed to potentially misbehaving or sybil peers'. As to the latter, I suspect you will be connected simply more prb nodes. It is possible that you'll also find, in a 'subgraph', nodes that are playing nicely, but seems less likely.
jfw: mod6: my notion of what that action entails, and please correct if I'm missing a major aspect, is that I'm more exposed to potentially misbehaving or sybil peers, but also potentially better connected and more likely to bridge otherwise partitioned subgraphs of the network.
mod6: Heads up to TRB users, seems that nodes have wedged on block 618406. A simple restart of TRB seemed to resolve it. Not sure on the cause yet. Will update with more information as I have it.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2020/the-slap-and-human-dignity/ << Trilema -- The slap and human dignity
ossabot: Logged on 2020-02-21 16:55:04 jfw: Indeed mom taught me the English cases (though perhaps not the fucking cases) and sentence trees while the sixth grade did not; and I remember grandma taught me handwriting exercises that the second grade couldn't be bothered with
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-02-21#1958429 << they become the fucking case if she includes the ablative, and explains the difference between it an' the accusative. otherwise if it's only five of them,they're the simple cases not the fucking cases.
jfw: Indeed mom taught me the English cases (though perhaps not the fucking cases) and sentence trees while the sixth grade did not; and I remember grandma taught me handwriting exercises that the second grade couldn't be bothered with
jfw: I'll pass along the invite, why not. She gonna need a GPG key and everything? :D
jfw: mircea_popescu: a consonance of dislikes between my own branch of the old generation and the young republic; how nice & harmonious!
mircea_popescu: jfw, tell mom to come in sometime, i wouldn't mind commissioning ru versions of some trilema articles from ye 30year veteran editor of the executive intelligence review.
mircea_popescu: the notion of trees as an approach to human knowledge is such alien mp-arcana not because mp came up with anything, but because everyone else failed 6th grade, can't take sentence produce the grammatical tree therein.
mircea_popescu: it's true, too. esl tards are UNIQUELY illiterate, you've not seen anything like it, "college graduates" with a sub 1k word vocabulary and understanding of grammar so rudimental as to render them incapable of theoretical production on the level of naming the fucking cases, or practical accomplishment on the level of analysing one phrase...
mircea_popescu: "It is salutary to remember that the majority of English mother-tongue applicants for translation posts in the European Commission fail because of the poor quality of their English." << i lulzed.
mircea_popescu: in other coincidentalia, who
mircea_popescu: it occurs to me the rather ridiculous ustardanism of "i think i know how to spell my own name" passed unadressed in the melee. so let it be said plainly then : this notion that rando mcnobody is nevertheless the authority on the spelling anf pronounciation of the label denoting them socially is little more than quaint provincial affectation. it enjoys neither respe
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/2020/footnote-callback-tooltips-for-mp-wp-thetarpit-markdown-plugin << The Tar Pit -- Footnote callback tooltips for MP-WP thetarpit Markdown plugin
mircea_popescu: So IMHO it's worth stating in the documentation that some command is expected to have certain flags available, which in the end would lead us to a complete enumeration of system utilities and the functionality they provide, which IMHO would be worth at least as much as the current POSIX spec. << this btw is eminently a service and likely to produce the way forward.
mircea_popescu: in the end it turns out, forking musl is unavoidable on very deep, far reaching, fundamental grounds.
mircea_popescu: oh oh. the comment sections
mircea_popescu: what the fuck "long time computer users" ? we're using periphrases for humanity now ? the fucking cows don't belong in computing already.
mircea_popescu: nerally undesirable. Most of the language specific locales have tables that specify the sort behavior to ignore punctuation and to fold case. This is counter intuitive to most long time computer users!"
mircea_popescu: "At that point sort appears broken because case is folded and punctuation is ignored because en_US.UTF-8 specifies this behavior. Once specifically requested by LANG and other LC_* variables, sort and other locale knowledgeable programs must respect that setting and sort according to the operating system locale tables. That is why this is not a bug in sort, sort is doing the right thing, even if the behavior is ge
mircea_popescu: oddly i can't find havng discussed that whole pile of unicode breakage in the logs -- though i'm pretty sure i said something on multiple occasions.
mircea_popescu: and the same thing's obvious if one reads any codebase important enough to have been around since before september. like say coreutils, or like say anything else.
mircea_popescu: g them go about their day that indeed they'd have reconstructed a world much more in their own image. out of garbage, multicolorous, strangely odorous, europe's little more than one giant brazilian favela -- except, again, for the indignity of ruins preventing their aspirations.
mircea_popescu: it's quite obvious, incidentally, perusing the collection of liberated rats, that the walls are rather in their way. if there weren't all these things they practically speaking stole from other people (through the complicity of father time, not through some sort of effort on their part) being in the way, if it weren't the case they lack both the drive and the equipment to tear them down, it's rather self-obvious watchin
jfw: And Europe's still got the infrastructure and scenic castles and classical languages and all that to think it's still a thing
mircea_popescu: certainly builds up one's capacity to understand the saddest face.
mircea_popescu: the poor fucks never got a chance to catch up, because the other retards, the lazy, inept, EQUALITARIAN retards of "Il est interdit d'interdire !" & co managed to catch down instead.
mircea_popescu: but now, revisiting the matter half a century later -- the frankfurt-oslo axis barely qualifies for historical addis abeba.
mircea_popescu: romania helped, with tech transfer, with political support, including AGAINST the moronic us & friends (a tradition, by the way). so did the russians, and the chinese, tho veiled by their alt-flavoured imperial pretensions.