BingoBoingo: fluffypony: The best place to get baseball knowledge
BingoBoingo: numerisTrade: You're welcome. Since the channel's quiet I'm trying to think about ways to give you level 2 with Assbot by trusting you that involve risk incurred on your part.
BingoBoingo: Well I guess since the second life thing they trade has been around, they probably function. It's just like they added support for crypto currencies while neglecting any sort of outreach. Also their limits seemed kind of crap when I tried them.
numerisTrade: I had some technical issues once, the support reacted quickly
numerisTrade: well, I don't trust them with a lot of money, but everything seemed ok
BingoBoingo: Wait TheRock is a thing? I made an account there once hoping to dump freexrp without a colonoscopy, but... seemed sketch
numerisTrade: will authenticate in a minute
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BingoBoingo: The Wizard lives
Apocalyptic: managers get the credit
bloctoc: for the record I don't know what secular means in this context.
Apocalyptic: haven't seen the last pump
Apocalyptic: indeed, he did the hard work
Apocalyptic: I haven't said this, but I think the new policy is a good idea, ty mircea
bloctoc: seems like the price of bitcoin went up quite a bit with this new voice policy
Apocalyptic: <the20year1> gribble keeps giving me an error when i do the pastebin thing // what's the error then ?
Apocalyptic: yes you have to auth the first time
BingoBoingo: I always just eauth and do the decrypt thing
the20year1: gribble keeps giving me an error when i do the pastebin thing
BingoBoingo: It indeed takes time the first time
the20year1: spent like 30m today trying to figure out how to authenticate via gpg and couldn't do it
assbot: Voicing the20year1 for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: !up the20year1
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joecool: there's a process to go through to appeal a fine in this sort of situation
joecool: hired a better firm this year, they went over it and warned us we had to file, paid the filing fees from last year, and warned us to expect a letter from the IRS asking for damages
mircea_popescu: kinda stupid, why not use the year to create a tax liability
joecool: i'm in this situation from the last company i started, initial accountant gave us horrible advice for 2012 since we formed the LLC in november and turned *very* small revenue, said it would be under limit to file
joecool: for the tax liability yes, fines (not interest) though i believe would get waived
mircea_popescu: the owner is still responsible tho.
joecool: the individual signs off to say they are reporting their income and such to the best of their knowledge
joecool: well i mean if you actually look at the returns, the accountant is signing off to say they believe the return to be true to the best of their knowledge under penalty of perjury
mircea_popescu: 10 here, 15 there, etc.
mircea_popescu: so they re-allocated all teh customers to the shortlist of competent accountants all around town
mircea_popescu: turns out, an accountant handling the accounts of ~200 small businesses had been found by the tax authority to not have filed anything for months
mircea_popescu: actually a VERY similar thing happened here last year. i arrive at my accountant's office, usually a quiet place with maybe 1-2 other people present, cause the gal is nuts abour scheduling, to find it in complete turmoil, bunches of evidently panicked people.
joecool: sry couldn't find another source
TestingUnoDosTre: Huff post is like shit smeared all over the computer screen
joecool: accountant pocketed his tax payments, didn't file for 7 years, then kicked the bucket, no idea about the truth of it all
mike_c: what does 'held negligent' mean? you have to pay the penalties..
mircea_popescu: for the same sum
joecool: mike_c: for the amounts paid, but can't be held negligent if accountant fucks up
mike_c: the individual is responsible.
joecool: not sure how that works if the tax accounting firm fucks it up badly, does fed go after them or the individual?
asciilifeform: other than mr. whizz
mircea_popescu: once the Level 2: reads > 0 you can pm assbot !up and it'll voice you
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asciilifeform: complicated, to say 'book is dead.' books of horoscopes and dream divinations still printed by the zillion, 'soviet encyclopaedia of physics' - not.
mircea_popescu: i suppose each of the 29 will publish their own personal criteria, if/when they get around to it
mircea_popescu: more's the point... to this day there are people running around claiming they're... "journalists"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: kamkin lived by the 'sovietologists' of washington, and - died by them.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a fitting punishment for they who refused to acknowledge doom.
gribble: Forth (programming language) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forth_(programming_language)>; Forth - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/forth>; Forth Interest Group Home Page: <http://www.forth.org/>
asciilifeform: i found my first book on 'forth' there
asciilifeform: most of the good stuff was picked off
asciilifeform: TestingUnoDosTre: in the end, the creditors confiscated the shelves, and there were gigantic mountains of book
nubbins`: if you'll excuse me, my wife needs to be bothered
asciilifeform: when the famous Kamkin bookstore (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Kamkin_Bookstore) imploded, they sold things by the pound, and opened up all of the 'backstage' rooms to customers. in one, i found... a '40s vintage printing press.
TestingUnoDosTre: Oh it appears so. My friend's sister has an old school platten printing machine that looks like it's from the 19th century
nubbins`: we use cotton rag paper for good posters. these are cheapies for taping to poles.
TestingUnoDosTre: what do you print them with?
TestingUnoDosTre: what did the poster read
BingoBoingo: This goes to the Orlov, the USSR was set up be not collapse as painfully as the thing could have otherwise.
BingoBoingo: Eh, if bad collapse happens the teaparty factions are just as likely to be oppresive and appropriate your crops as the gobmint factions
asciilifeform: in other lulz,
asciilifeform: let's see what the american number is.
asciilifeform: russia found what the number was (~6 mo. delay of pay, approx.)
asciilifeform: there's a magic number, somewhere down there, where soldiers start selling ammo, other materiel, whole vehicles - to the enemy
asciilifeform: 'His Marines could care less, he said, because they just "want to know into whose neck do we put a boot next."'
ThickAsThieves: i linked yesterday with the caption: blowstamps
ThickAsThieves: hey isnt that the shark tank lady youre fukn with mp?
BingoBoingo: TestingUnoDosTre: I'm from the general region, just a more rural part
BingoBoingo: Carl Officer has a rich history of creating the lulz
TestingUnoDosTre: pretty sure half the people who post on there are just trying to get bets to the other side
mircea_popescu: the anon experts are a very valuable signal, turns out.
mircea_popescu: after wallowing in the 400s for weeks.
mircea_popescu: "Well the answer is the IRS is extremely strict about property taxes and nobody in the United States is going to want to use Bitcoin after a 20% tax on it. That combined with Bitcoin rumors about China banning it means we won't see $525." << anon expert, april 15th around noon.
BingoBoingo: Basically longtime former democratic East StL mayor is now supporting the Repube candidate for governor.
benkay: the barons of course not needing any derpy web or mobile apps.
benkay: off to an 'internet of things' aka networked and api-ified sensor get together. perhaps i'll find some new clients there tonight...
Apocalyptic: isn't it run by thermos or something anyway ?
BingoBoingo: The Wizard of .bait
dub: the wizard?
TestingUnoDosTre: gribble quit lowballin the hashrate your whore
mircea_popescu: right in the pink eye!
mircea_popescu: mod6 because nobody could have imagined that the terrorists would use a plane as a dildo.
mircea_popescu: TestingUnoDosTre is this the #bitcoin-assets based reality tv show ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, twitter is the best trolling venue imaginable. there's droves of hipsters, aging attention whores, all taking it supar seriously
pankkake: this is why I don't take anyone seriously when they say that word
mircea_popescu: yeah, basically, she's the bubbliest 44yo on some us based shopping channel
Apocalyptic: reminds me of the 12,000+ domain names guy
mircea_popescu: da fuck is with all the prissy wallflowers claiming "passion"
TestingUnoDosTre: where do you find these people?
mircea_popescu: In the decades ahead, should we be as white as we are today, we will be relentlessly driven toward mediocrity; or, become a sad shadow of our current self, Mr. Shepard said in a recent blog post
Apocalyptic: "Complaints from the U.S. are going to increasingly fall on deaf ears"
pankkake: I guess you get worthess stuff generated by your worthless stuff
pankkake: then I don't really get it
ThickAsThieves: so there.
ThickAsThieves: it's more likely than if they weren't hashing at all, right?
mike_c: unless what thestringpuller said.
mike_c: thestringpuller: that is a good point.
mike_c: right, but instead of having a 1 in 1eBigNumber chance, they have a 1 in (1eBigNumber - attempts) chance
mike_c: ok, two people said no.. there is a small better chance they find it in the next minute after failing for 36 minutes. the search space has been reduced.
mircea_popescu: <TestingUnoDosTre> If miners have been hashing away for 36 minutes, do they have any better chance of finding a correct hash in the next minute compared to minute 1? << no.
nubbins`: that's the -assets mascot? :/
nubbins`: somebody with a soldering iron up their ass?
thestringpuller: why not buy the underlying asset and zoidberg?
TestingUnoDosTre: Bitbet is the options market now
ThickAsThieves: there it is!
benkay: bitbet ate the options market.
thestringpuller: http://bitbet.us/bet/800/bitcoin-price-above-525-before-may/ <- i wonder if these bets create a feed back loop the more money that goes in
BingoBoingo: http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/us-airways-tweets-out-photo-of-model-airplane-in-womans-1563098531/1563579181/+Tom_Ley
thestringpuller: he's on maternity leave << hoorah for children. they grow up so fast...
TestingUnoDosTre: If miners have been hashing away for 36 minutes, do they have any better chance of finding a correct hash in the next minute compared to minute 1?
thestringpuller: that's a nice bot, did smickles make that? or what's the story behind it...
mpexbot: thestringpuller: Asks: ['5150 @ 0.00097202', '9450 @ 0.00097276', '1900 @ 0.00097318', '8950 @ 0.00097382', '12566 @ 0.00097408']
mpexbot: thestringpuller: S.MPOE Bids: ['2899 @ 0.00097198', '5021 @ 0.00096', '7100 @ 0.00095965', '5850 @ 0.0009594', '2900 @ 0.00095924']
mircea_popescu: other q's.
mircea_popescu: also, is it twitter generally ? does it do the same off a phone ?
asciilifeform: these folks could just drive fifteen minutes with a wagen and a 'troika', half hour for tribunal and bullet. but no, they gotta fuck with people instead.
BigBitz: I get the Twitter cert.
gribble: You rated user BigBitz on Mon Dec 2 11:10:58 2013, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: gives me the worst rates ever ಠ_ಠ and makes me hate myself, owes me beer, but he can be trusted to send a couple g's USD.
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mircea_popescu: haven't seen cory in like 4ever eithert
mircea_popescu: joecool you trust all the oldschool doods. madscientist ?!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell keonne <dexX7> is the blockchain.info guy here? block w height 296055 throws an exception -> https://blockchain.info/de/block-index/383285/00000000000000004014a2cb13c0760539b9a353c8f4934b878446fbd8ee4932
pankkake: BitBet: The Customer is Always Wrong
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mircea_popescu: mike_c the 400 bet. at first i thought you hjad a legit complaint
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dexX7: is the blockchain.info guy here? block w height 296055 throws an exception -> https://blockchain.info/de/block-index/383285/00000000000000004014a2cb13c0760539b9a353c8f4934b878446fbd8ee4932
artifexd: Vexual, get in the wot already
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Apocalyptic: that's the thing about great trolls
mike_c: yeah, just read that one too. another classic.
gribble: vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 weeks, 5 days, 23 hours, 25 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <Vexual> lasers in the eye is never good tat
mike_c: is there a time decay on bash points?
artifexd: It would be nice to be able to retroactively !b a part of the log. The conversation with Naphex about 5 hours ago was pretty interesting.
mike_c: bah. next you'll rethink your theory on technical analysis because head & shoulders.
TestingUnoDosTre: Made me rethink my whole theory on psychological barriers
mike_c: because clearly the price *shouldn't* have dropped below 400.
Apocalyptic: mircea, or reddit in another terms
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, it's the cesspool of irc
TestingUnoDosTre: Can someone explain this to me. Purchase of 382 Btc at 505, followed by 20 btc at 500. Was the first purchase a market buy?
benkay: or the impending chinese drone swarms
mircea_popescu: i doubt there exists a us ship that actually can defend itself against modernised su's, but hey.
mircea_popescu: The Donald Cook is more than capable of defending itself against two Su-24s, the colonel said.
benkay: what's the military context that makes that kind of behavior assholery?
asciilifeform: should have dropped 'paintballs' or the like.
mircea_popescu: why is he not @lubyanka then
mircea_popescu: harry reid, the guy who delivered congress to obama, right ?
asciilifeform: the 2nd generation lumpenizes, and can't be used.
mircea_popescu: "The original bullhocky story about the cattle endangering desert tortoises fell apart when the truth was discovered that only recently the BLM had gerrymandered the boundaries of endangered habitat and created a mitigation area needed to replace habitat where Harry Reids son and a Chinese energy company planned to build a 5 billion dollar solar energy project."
asciilifeform: incidentally, this is why 'they import fresh mexicans,' etc.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in some other equally arid land
asciilifeform: and so, the 'masters' demand radical geographic separation.
asciilifeform: in usa, they broke the mechanism that separates the usefully servile class from 'lumpens.' sort of like growing edible mushrooms in a bathroom infested by mold, because, hey, you can.
bounce: hot in summer, cold in winter. freezing hell when the wind's just wrong. such fun.
Apocalyptic: <bounce> don't servants live in servants quarters? like, oh, right under the roof, or wherever it was. // it was indeed right under the roof, in France at least
asciilifeform: erests for a long time. I don't see any rational, coherent explanation for this sort of behavior in humans, but it's all over the place.'
asciilifeform: 'labor unions arose when people had gotten a taste of a different lifestyle and were willing to pay a lot more for their basic livelihood and had gotten into a fix they couldn't get out of -- because they had accepted the unacceptable to begin with. accepting something you have to form a labor union to fight after the fact only tells me that people were acting against their own best (or even good) int
bounce: don't servants live in servants quarters? like, oh, right under the roof, or wherever it was.
mircea_popescu: they pretend like they're not, for public consumption, and to get more clueless kids on the one track path that then leads them to become prostitu uh i mean entrpereneurs
asciilifeform: if the 'they're bidding up all housing' thing were true, the masters would have problems hiring servants. are they?
mircea_popescu: Vincent: It's just against the rules.
mircea_popescu: Vincent: What's more chickenshit than fucking with a man's automobile? I mean, don't fuck with another man's vehicle.
mircea_popescu: Lance: They should be fucking killed. No trial, no jury, straight to execution.
mircea_popescu: to quote the world's foremost "yuppie scum", one vincent vega :
asciilifeform: satan preserve us. the 'google bus' folks again?!
mircea_popescu: dude... and this is STILL not enough reason to just send the national guard and beat anyone not rich into a pulp ?
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic because insane, on the first level.
Apocalyptic: mircea, why would they do that ?
mircea_popescu: the difference of course being i can slaughter one and post it on my blog, daring the "pet police" to do anything,
jborkl: ok I did my good deed for the year - time to relax
asciilifeform: i've often wondered if the local busybodies would go apeshit if one were to set up a snare.
mircea_popescu: it's like... twice over the pretense
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Probably an East Coast thing. No serious problem finding them here.
mircea_popescu: there's a thin sliver of romanians who wannabe us hipster liberals.
asciilifeform: over here, they can only be had in korean markets, because americans are weirdos
jborkl: my WOT nick is jborkl_ and the nick I use is jborkl - you have to change to jborkl_ with gribble auth with assbot then /nick jborkl
mircea_popescu: like the necronomicon, only better.
mircea_popescu: rectothermicon
mircea_popescu: do you compulsively play with the support ?
asciilifeform: rectothermcoin.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well I was more imagining what it would take for a Rasberry Pi to truly be a TI-89 surrogate than imagining a project for myself in the near future.
chairman_meow: I can't seems to find out why the rules changed
chairman_meow: hmmm I'm looking at the logs
Naphex: hehe thanks for the rate ^^
mircea_popescu: otherwise, anyone can invest a bitcent anywhere, hardly a qualifier.
Apocalyptic: given he mentionned that as the #1 thing
Apocalyptic: Anduck, that's probably the extent of his involvement with bitcoin
mircea_popescu: how much of their 10k is you ?
mircea_popescu: kinda curious what that guy that was going to do the math to show how weight is not sharp enough comes up with.
BingoBoingo: Well I wouldn't be averse to offering trust for a small trade if I knew what the person's shtick is
chairman_meow: why the change of rules for bitcoin-assets?
Anduck: well why is his pr then using bitcointalk :D
mircea_popescu: ah ? ok then!
mircea_popescu: well at least it's what the guy claims.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla apparently if id'd but untrusted guy pms assbot he gets the same message as if he weren't id'd.
chairman_meow: I need to trade with one of these guys?
bounce: such not authenticated
mircea_popescu: there's your list
mircea_popescu: "If individuals admit guilt & reach civil settlement w/ govt, they can't deduct costs from tax returns. Companies can" << true, and pretty epic
pankkake: I have compiled sudo with the "offensive" USE flag. when my password is wrong, I get random insults
Anduck: Apocalyptic, mircea_popescu: if it works correctly, then the message is wrong. "You must auth with gribble first."
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mircea_popescu: but no, let's discuss nonsense instead of how fuckwit danny failed to enter the wot, then failed to heed when mp said get in the wot or i'll fuck you up, then got fucked up.
mircea_popescu: but a bigger part of which being that when they go to shit, they can try to divert the discussion on unrelated emo topicsa
mircea_popescu: for many reasons, part of which being that the emotional fuckwits who "invest" with them react to such
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic except it works like this : scammers love to mention their kids/wives (anyone recall patrick harnett ?)