cgcardona: what could be the reasoning behind such a default setting?
cgcardona: ok cool. the old nick cgcardona_ will no longer be active.
ozbot: The Denomination Decimal Designation Debate, Revisited
kakobrekla: moiety i did actually. got up a bit later then, at 4pm.
BigBitz: Ah you think the high rollers/industry players or operaters are colluding?
cgcardona: ;;rate mircea_popescu 1 didn't become the richest person you know by accident. cookie eating bitlord
BigBitz: then he wouldn't give me information on KingOfSports when he scammed me..... so meh.
cgcardona: *on the outside looking in*
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kakobrekla: fly motherfucker
cgcardona: so is it possible to delete/reassign my previous nick's gpg keys to this nick in the WoT or should i generate new keys for this nick?
ThickAsThieves: mp clarification on question one "start that way" as in there will there not be a base set of art for everything within the intended style of the game
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cgcardona: or do I need to get them transfered
ThickAsThieves: <+ozbot> BitBet - ATC to reach block 50000 on time /// interesting to see so much betting, gives miners more incentive .... if they're paying attention
mircea_popescu: ok so now i have to go to an irl meeting, but! if moar twitter noobs show up on webchat, pls to voice them and tell them i'll be back in a few hours.
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: the 1,045 yo 'toss be "Raszagal, Matriarch of the Dark Templar." your intel serves you well
cgcardona_: mircea_popescu: also thanks for the heads up. truly appreciate you thinking of me.
gribble: Sent 1 week, 5 days, 4 hours, and 46 minutes ago: <mircea_popescu> lol is it the first best largest wot ? and Sent 16 hours and 3 minutes ago: <mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2014#656509
cgcardona_: hmmm. cgcardona_ is my only nick. I used cgcardona (without the _) a couple of years ago but I've unfortunately lost the password I think.
mircea_popescu: afaik the african boom in sms payments was mostyly driven by nigeria's oil sector
fluffypony: But you need that agent network in the destination countries to "cash out"
fluffypony: International remittance is more interesting - there are tons of Zimbabweans and Malawians here
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: There's been a strong push in low-cost banking services here; there's a legal requirement for every bank to offer a low-cost banking product that doesn't exceed dictated maximum costs, so for remittance within the country (for miners sending money to their families, for eg) they just use that
Maciano: good luck, I read your site from time to time, you've got your shit together
Maciano: bye then
mircea_popescu: i wonder why they failed.
mircea_popescu: i meant about the market indicator.
mircea_popescu: BigBitz not even the first.
mircea_popescu: Maciano well that's problematic then, because i quite specifically need someone with aff experience, and lots of it.
fluffypony: Nah, Vodacom (cellular service provider) and Nedbank (bank) spent millions in trying to bring M-pesa to South Africa; after a few years they don't have a substantial market and Nedbank has pulled out of the deal. Not a good market indicator.
Maciano: on possible work, what's the job?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I don't have the knowledge or connections to do set that up in the Northern African countries
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: so he switches to threatening, because that's always worked: "Please refund my money immediately, or i will go crazy all over the internet << dunno if you've read bitbet nov report ?
artifexd: It works without the /plain/
mircea_popescu: "If you got here via a link to an older item, it has been purged from the database"
mircea_popescu: this is motherfucking synergy, that's what that shit is.
mircea_popescu: i'm having brain orgasms over here, this is EXACTLY the sort of thing life is all about. so i made a wonderful thing, on top of which dooglus made a wonderful thing, on top of which kakobrekla made a wonderful thing. none of these are particularly hard to do, once you have the others' stuff. but they're nigh on impossible to do if you do not.
artifexd: It would be nice if assbot knew the total investment and could thus also give a total up or down.
mircea_popescu: moiety: sort of unrelated but is it just me that is intensely annoyed by gawker as a website? << not really that intensely. another gossip rag, plenty of em.
mircea_popescu: explains why all the nonsense going on in there continues to go on unabated, at any rate.
mircea_popescu: and so in this perspective, people starting and people funding kickstarter campaigns aren't into it for the direct reason, but for the meta reason : to have been in it.
mircea_popescu: it's their brand, their link to humanity. they too could be counted among the living, for they too have the items.
mircea_popescu: much for the same reason homeless bums carry around "cool" but not actually working pieces of human tech
mircea_popescu: and so have these special support clubs to tell each other that "we're still human, because we can still make things"
mircea_popescu: i suspect the reason is purely psychological : "the people", ie, your average joe, feel disempowered by corporate technology
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: why there needs to be a 'kickstarter' for a flashlight, i cannot answer. ask the gods. << because why not.
fluffypony: so he switches to threatening, because that's always worked: "Please refund my money immediately, or i will go crazy all over the internet, posting in every crypto-currency forum i can find, and you will lose ALOT more than $300+ from all the bad Public relations nightmare that i create for you, i guarantee you that. Do right by me please, and i will do right by you."
fluffypony: so I point out that "Pompano Beach" is just the area, and that the zip code matches the one he provided on his order, so as far as I can see it's been delivered
fluffypony: he throws a huge tantrum because the area on the USPS tracking is "Pompano Beach" and he lives in "Coral Springs" which is 15 miles away from Pompano Beach
fluffypony: so I'm like "lolwut" and send him the tracking info
fluffypony: I check the USPS tracking, and it says it's delivered
moiety: asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2014#656244 << we still do this when someone steals a pint, whereby the person who had the pint stolen takes the peg
gribble: The operation succeeded.
moiety: ThickAsThieves: wtf, is buying them not just encouraging more being stolen and sold?
ThickAsThieves: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/24lnro/there_are_230_little_girls_in_nigeria_getting/
ThickAsThieves: "There are ~230 little girls in Nigeria getting sold for around $12 each. I have one bitcoin. I don't know how to do hostage escrow and I don't know anyone in Nigeria, scams notwithstanding. It wouldn't be enough for all of them even if I could try to buy them back."
kakobrekla: i think imma head off in the horizontals.
kakobrekla: o yea, goes well with the slander.
kakobrekla: now send her an email with the log link
gribble: Perfect money corrupts absolutely pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/perfect-money-corrupts-absolutely/>; The discreet escort, or how Bitcoin makes prostitution ... - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/2014/the-discreet-escort-or-how-bitcoin-makes-prostitution-unprosecutable/>; Iunie 2013 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2013/06>
BingoBoingo: Yeah... Totally missed the point.
moiety: BingoBoingo: lol worldinacoin obviously found the post tl;dr : "What is there to see about Alt coin mining for it to be streamed on webcam? The computer screen?"
ozbot: *LIVE*[ANN][SAC] The making of SparkleCoin | Bitcointa.lk
kakobrekla: nah not really, although lampelina was jelly at a times in the past
kakobrekla: that is the new part yes
moiety: i like the time check bit too
gribble: The operation succeeded.
moiety: because i get far too excited about the bots >.>
kakobrekla: but why not, i hear they are fashionable again
moiety: there is only one thing i wish for assbot. it doesn't have manuls to counteract a potential war from gribble's kittens
mike_c: that wasn't the right emoticon
moiety: mike_c: and it appears theres a few sites that use the same look/set up? its horrible to use
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: moiety: Weather as euphamism for feeling unwell
BingoBoingo: Yeah, they keep growing
moiety: i'm just catching up, i missed a lot... is it just me or are the logs longer thesedays even with voicingness BB?
BingoBoingo: moiety: Check the logs, future past you was here
asciilifeform: why there needs to be a 'kickstarter' for a flashlight, i cannot answer. ask the gods.
asciilifeform: it does, however, allow you to drain them completely
asciilifeform: this is necessarily a poorer use of the batteries than the traditional version of several 1.5v cells in series.
asciilifeform: for some reason i thought this was standard on led flashlights, but possibly the chinese omit it.
asciilifeform: so long as you can keep the output voltage above the junction minimum of the leds, you have some light
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: the 'battery assist' circuit is an ordinary voltage multiplier.
ThickAsThieves: <+fluffypony> csshih: https://www.yahoo.com/tech/the-triatholight-a-300-hour-flashlight-that-seems-too-84489515654.html <- thoughts? /// yknow, a good scam here would be to include some battery power under the hood, fooling people to wow at its initial duration of use, then they put it away for a year like every other flashlight and forget about it
mircea_popescu: anyone want to lend me a billion or so of the dogecoins on a one year term ?
Duffer1: kakobrekla did you see the doge nascar?
kakobrekla: i watched a bunch of episodes of computer chronicles quite some time ago, i guess this kennas show will have a similar feel in 20 years or so. the main difference though is that cc was not ran by scammers but the opposite.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: St Louis-ish
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Well, I think they are actually coming out here this year, some time. I dunno when though.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete i'm told by my obviously bored intel that in point of fact 1,045 yo made some chick "the oldest living protoss"
mircea_popescu: o, what relevancy could omitting all the people against have on an article discussing "the only people against" ?
bounce: commie bonds? what's the yield on that?
mircea_popescu: Noah Rothman @Mircea_Popescu not sure what you're getting at. Finland not included either. Are you suggesting Romanian operatives active in Ukr?
mircea_popescu: Noah Rothman Hungary, first member of the Warsaw Pact to slough off the bonds of communism, most resistant to Russ sanctions pic.twitter.com/L9B0sdPhzx
bounce: heh, tritium glow fobs. apparently they're made somewhere near here but you can't buy'em. can buy'em in the uk but only if you live there due to transport regulations and shit
BingoBoingo: bounce: Sure, but sometimes you gotta be able to reproduce something in a different way. It may not be the most right way.
MarieLynn: I look at AirBnB in Moscow and St-Petersburg and the places in St-P. are palacial and the stuff in Moscow is dinky... Wonder what it will be like.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Maybe?
bounce: that is more or less why the thing exists
bounce: what's with the wholesale quoting? o_O?
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn thestringpuller i think there may be a strong difference based on location. airbnb may work a lot better outside of the us than inside.
MarieLynn: <+thestringpuller> That sucks. My last AirBnB in Toronto had a kleptomaniac cat... Other than that, good experiences so far.
mircea_popescu: stocks are also eating the gains.
bounce: right. why'd that drop all of a sudden? start of the avalanche?
mircea_popescu: ok sorry for the abstruse earlier image. it's the yield of us treasury bonds, 30 years, traded in japan
bounce: doesn't openbsd have a port for bitcoind, by the by?
BingoBoingo: dignork: well, I made the offer to some kid, but post or pm address
bounce: at least freebsd has "fetch" in base, dunno what openbsd does there
MarieLynn: What happened <+thestringpuller>
thestringpuller: MarieLynn: New Year.s Resolution = Use AirBnB. a lot! << @_@ coincidentally I just had the worst rental experience of my life with them
fluffypony: bounce: at the top left you can see it says "Misutyusri QU530YT -RR"
mircea_popescu: check out the drop.
fluffypony: the ReX was an amazing piece of kit
fluffypony: on the Photon topic tho
fluffypony: they do international shipping, yo
bounce: all I have is a photon II, came as a giveaway. guy had a sack full of'em, when in yurp they cost 20 euro a piece.
csshih: yeah the lri is nice, but it's dated
csshih: fluffypony, check out the zebraligh sc52
fluffypony: csshih: https://www.yahoo.com/tech/the-triatholight-a-300-hour-flashlight-that-seems-too-84489515654.html <- thoughts?
fluffypony: but he did have the good fortune of many back rubs
mircea_popescu: btw, http://complex.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/05/01/the_military_s_top_spy_will_be_a_woman
MarieLynn: Damn PasswordBox always changing my fields! Thanks for the heads up.
fluffypony: uh I know MarieLynn, gribble stalks me all the time
MarieLynn: Usually when I participate in these things I wind up wioth an annoying stalker so I haven't been in IRC for over a decade.
mircea_popescu: "Berkshire quarterly profit hurt by weather, insurance"
mircea_popescu: the red us press was making her sound like a monster recently.
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn how;'s the guy';s mom like ?
MarieLynn: I still haven't asked the museum archivist to tak out the note he wrote in the guestbook. Barrie!
MarieLynn: Benkay I put it there for fun, I just met him casually about 22 years ago with his mom :)
mircea_popescu: not even actual experts can run the shit russians make.
mircea_popescu: nah. they'd have blown it by now.
asciilifeform: i bet they've got one in norilsk as we speak.
mircea_popescu: and they say i'm wild.
asciilifeform: let them confiscate hot reactor.
mircea_popescu: because your cooling is endangering the spotted ice shrimp
asciilifeform: average american will not be hosting in the klondike, agreed.
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pankkake: benkay: use the WoT, m8
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, i know the daughter of the guy that designed fucking buildings there. it's insanely expensive, you have to anchor i nthe permafrost.
bounce: the offshoring brokers are in a sense arbitraging skills
gribble: Otters holding hands - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epUk3T2Kfno>; Otterly adorable: Dozy otters hold hands while taking a nap so they ...: <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2421731/Otterly-adorable-Dozy-otters-hold-hands-taking-nap-dont-drift-apart-sleep.html>; Sea otter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_otter>
asciilifeform: i bet they float just fine.
asciilifeform: you can get machine racks in shipping containers. drop them straight on the snow, connect to power plant, put a bit of concertina wire around.
MarieLynn: I shall never use it again in your presence then
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn arbitrage is the buying and selling of the same one asset (either natural or synthetic) in different markets that are divergent. so in order to arbitrage skills, you'd have to first buy them. skills aren't commodities however, and so this "arbitrage your skills" is just hipster talk.
MarieLynn: My boyfriend beats people up for a living but there are few people in Montreal who are tough enough for his classes.
asciilifeform: or the very same miners.
MarieLynn: My other friend in Saskatchewan says construction workers are impossible to find because the mines pay too high :)
asciilifeform: gotta be a fag to man an oil rig << it's not a nuke sub. they rotate the crew occasionally.
asciilifeform: dealing in redditronics ought to earn a hazard pay, like soviet workers in the far north
MarieLynn: You keep living in a cheap place a reap the benefits of working in a place where they pay more for talent.
MarieLynn: Nope The position is anywhere.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn so, that. the one thing that does more than everything else all humans ever did in the entire history of life on earth.
mircea_popescu: maybe the bunion accountant has no business in physics, nuclear or otherwise, and the thing ain't an university in any sense.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless...
mircea_popescu: there's more to it asciilifeform. suppose you visit this university, which wants you to take it seriously. in it, the head of nuclear physics is hard at work making an inventory of... his bunions.
asciilifeform: cargo cult, too. fat lot of good it will do for the idiots.
asciilifeform: this decimal point crap is a mega-lol. they can't inflate, so... let's move decimal. like in a banana republic, or '90s russia.
mircea_popescu: the great days when diff was like... 300mn.
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn http://trilema.com/2013/things-that-matter-these-days-things-that-dont-matter-these-days/
MarieLynn: <+mircea_popescu> what is the world's most important project ? (re: 18:06)
mircea_popescu: time to rehash the sad story of von flondor.
mircea_popescu: stoolies being what they are, i'll prolly hear about it before they actually accept it.
asciilifeform: everybody's seen the photos of fleets of gasenwagen, brand new
mircea_popescu: i am quite curious to hear what their parachute design will look like.
mircea_popescu: this point applies to the government.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform or to put it in plainer terms : it is very true one wants to invent parachute before, rather than after being thrown from the plane.
bounce: what's the state of thin foil solar panels anyway?
bounce: drones with mesh potatoes and solar panels for autonomy. some proximity sensors and such. one roof gets too hot for comfort, move to the next.
mircea_popescu: talk to its fambly, say goodbies, come to the field.
mircea_popescu: as i said a few times before, the other party can move it up to getting shot any time it feels ready
mircea_popescu: that's the only reason, too.
asciilifeform: since we're at the 'pack parachute' stage, nobody's shooting stoolies around here yet.
mircea_popescu: accidents happen, and stoolies are in all times and places the first to also have problems.
mircea_popescu: maybe they get shot.
mircea_popescu: well that all depends, i guess. what's to keep you from cutting a square foot window in the tree ?
mircea_popescu: he's almost as bad as the forum average, 25% loss over a year.
mircea_popescu: so trendon shavers managed to funel ~70k through his paypal account. to which paypal gave no trouble at all. why aren't they co-defendants in his case ?
mircea_popescu: one of the many threads but yes.
mircea_popescu: Namworld i can see that, yeah. there's nothing like "confusion" when the "confused" stands to make a buck from it.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony the SuchWow guy.
Namworld: Plus you know a few places would scam people "We only owe you X BTC" and the generic moron would go "I knew it, BTC under 1 dollar by the end of the year."
mircea_popescu: because they're braindamaged.
mircea_popescu: because they imagine bitcoin is a consumer affair
mircea_popescu: Namworld they imagine it'd make more noobs buy, and so make their worthless holdings worth somerthing.
mircea_popescu: heck, they probably have bitcoin defined as a real.
Namworld: What? That's retarded. We'd end up with 2000 BTC to the dollar and a shitload of BTC. Plus that wouldn't change anything at all, actually.
mircea_popescu: they prolly don't know about this, or anything else.
fluffypony: coz if it's programmatic they should be working in satoshis anyway
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo> bounce: HAMs tend to be a territorial and snitchy bunch << only because no real political pressure has been applied to them yet, because nobody gave a shit. normally the sewer rats are also a snitchy, territorial bunch. nevertheless, nobody in the lower east side would talk to a cop, pre ww2.
fluffypony: how are they feeding values in to an accounting system anyway?
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> and ignored << just because some inconsequential idiots a la bitpay & the forum are herping away dun mean anything's been ignored. you can't ignore the judge, or the bullet.
SuchWow: Thanks, first I've heard of the chan :)
joecool: mircea_popescu: yeah, the same logic applies on recyclables
mircea_popescu: <joecool> the municipalities though would sell scrap licenses for these discarded items and arrest anyone who picked it up without a permit << fucking outrageous. selling licenses on MY trash ? heh.
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> lordy, the forum and bitpay wanna move the bitcoin decimal to two places << enemies of the people.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony lmao "chinese rules". i dunno dood, afaik the chinese are the most druggy whoring of the whole lot.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> and wonders like fidonet will return from the grave. << where do you think you're now ?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> living in usa, i admit i'm rather surprised that it is 2014 and i'm not yet forced to pay $500/mo to get something other than ArsebookNet << i think they're running way behind schedule.