pankkake: the most entertaining part of sports is supporters
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: That actually gets said a lot by fans of the same team.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
fluffypony: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://thedoghousediaries.com/comics/uncategorized/2014-05-05-cc318e9.png
ozbot: New York Ideas - AtlanticLIVE - The Atlantic
bitcoinpete: http://www.theatlantic.com/live/events/new-york-ideas/2014/ <<one of these is nic cary. can you spot waldo?
bitcoinpete: thestringpuller: almost seems like it
bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/jonmatonis/status/463711450432020480 << matonis discovers the west indes. or at least the teutons
gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
pankkake: fluffypony: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358820.msg3876565#msg3876565 I'm not sure I was the first though
gribble: You rated user mike_c on Mon May 5 14:54:20 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: small atc transaction + he does great stuff with btcalpha.com.
pankkake: it's easy to bypass with the image only, anyway
pankkake: well, you should state so then!
pankkake: so you're not even serving your own address a few percent of the time?
fluffypony: "Is there anything more inspirational than a talk about #bitcoin by Andreas Antonopoulos? http://ow.ly/wvuOU @aantonop"
ozbot: Twitter / blockchain: Is there anything more ...
mike_c: v2, with linking to the right bet:
benkay: mike_c: thanks for the bitbet rotator :)
mircea_popescu: "the idea of "ten million dollars" really need to start meaning something again."
asciilifeform: a decade later, i still recognized those 3 thermal vias
fluffypony: Beautiful story to who can hear it, nice the people that tell the story, pretty the earth that doesn't forget it, beautiful Michela that didn't forget it.
mircea_popescu: so, beautiful the story and whoever hears it, beautiful the people that tell it, beautiful land that won't forget, beautiful michela that won't... yield ?
ozbot: Brain-dead on the boardwalk: Folks ‘agree with Obama’ that not liking Mexican food is racist -
chetty: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/05/06/brain-dead-on-the-boardwalk-folks-agree-with-obama-that-not-liking-mexican-food-is-racist-117133?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
mircea_popescu: there it is.
mircea_popescu: you can also ask about that, what's the plan, once the uk starts asking questions they move it to panama ?
ThickAsThieves: you know the saying,
mircea_popescu: dude what the fuck have i been sayinbg for a year over here already!
ThickAsThieves: dafuck, their donate page is vastly lacking in info
ThickAsThieves: btw, i reread the logs yesterday
mircea_popescu: is this because he wants to prevent the public from discovering how he's been embezziling the donations ?
mircea_popescu: if he didn't pocket any why does he refuse to allow the foundation to publish its books ?
mircea_popescu: was he aware bfl is using the bf logo to scam users ? did he agree to be paid to help with this ?
mircea_popescu: did he spend the money on booze, like every single other bitcoin foundaton plat member to date ?
ThickAsThieves: if so i can have my wife get them
ThickAsThieves: are they a 501c3?
mircea_popescu: you got your own head neh ? you get the idea, ask it until you get an answer
ThickAsThieves: would be much more productive to run into these guys at a coffee shop
ThickAsThieves: i do, never tried the whores thoughh
Naphex: mircea_popescu: you run it on some server before, totally transparent. it will cache most in RAM and deliver, it. it will merge outgoing connections and route them through HTTP 1.1 connections
ThickAsThieves: i have this feeling none of the people i will want to ask questions will have a Q&A session
ThickAsThieves: then bitcoin crashed
ozbot: Jon Matonis - The Monetary Future - Forbes
ThickAsThieves: yeah i think it's kicking off the conference something
mircea_popescu: weren't there some awards ? "best atm" etc
ThickAsThieves: oh the blockchain awards?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i wonder if matonis actually does get the custom-tailored award thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just a guess i suspect. the processors weren't hot enough to smoke.
ThickAsThieves: i like how Matonis is retweeting an article that says "Take whatever the Core Devs say and do the exact opposite."
mircea_popescu: Naphex this wasn't a front problem, the front was fine all through
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the board just went
mircea_popescu: no, more like because they have to use encrypted chan
mircea_popescu: funny thing is, i got the notification from you about half a second before from tech.
Naphex: still looks like they sold some
mircea_popescu: not enough there to make any sort of call really
Naphex: they don't look that bad
mircea_popescu: that reads "after 24 calls and 7 emails i can finally breathe somewhat"
mircea_popescu: i dont think it was ever on the girl's list
ThickAsThieves: maybe i'll write a pando hate article and steal all their lovers
ThickAsThieves: how is it i find mp's claims to fame palatable, but not theirs?
mircea_popescu: then pmarca happened.
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> gawd, Pando is really starting to annoy me << they were cool at some point.
pankkake: no. oh, another louis de funès, lol
mircea_popescu: also, why not call liv tyler liv tyler ? not like she's not in the idbm etc
mike_c: this is odd. the ref cookie seems to last for an hour..
ThickAsThieves: "What I love about Pando is how quickly it's exposing itself to be ego-stroking spin machine for its investors and their interests." ~ me
ThickAsThieves: http://pando.com/2014/05/05/after-pando-brings-the-facts-to-light-steven-tylers-daughter-ends-quest-to-shut-down-bay-area-band/
ThickAsThieves: all this "Since our article, the world is a better place. You're welcome." shit
jurov: heh now i wonder why i just said myself "prolly it should be so" and not investigated further
pankkake: or you can watch the cookie
jurov: ^ pankkake this. i have did it myself, i got back fees from the bet i linked directly but that was all
pankkake: the referal? I doubt it. or I would have gave myself fees forever
pankkake: they're delicious delicacies
pankkake: jurov: no it works, the cookie expires at session though. that way I got myself fees by mistake
jurov: well, i always got some satoshi in few hours following the link was published
mircea_popescu: <jurov> as soon as they start to click around, it gets forgotten << no wai ?!
mircea_popescu: it makes women push watermelons through their square inch of a vaginal canal. never underestimate the will to live.
ThickAsThieves: kakobrekla, care to share the inner workings of affiliate program?
ozbot: Putin On The Ritz - Andrew Wyeth Neal - YouTube
jurov: as soon as they start to click around, it gets forgotten
jurov: seems it applies on only the bet that is linked with ?ref= parameter
ThickAsThieves: i dont like calling them redditers cuz it feels like an insult to editors
ThickAsThieves: i dunno man, you really think their will to surive is that strong?
mircea_popescu: they're greedy like bacteriums.
ThickAsThieves: it's like how people wanted the next asicminer
ThickAsThieves: i mean greed is certainly there
chetty: greed can apply to things other than money - fame/power etc
mircea_popescu: which are the same thing, depending on whether you think othyer people are agents or objects.
mircea_popescu: it seems clear it's either mimetism or brownian motion,
ThickAsThieves: you cant even fucking learn about Bitcoin on their website
ThickAsThieves: it's also interesting to point out that the only organization purported to promote bitcoin, does no outreach other than public speaking
ThickAsThieves: every one is gonna scalp their share though
ThickAsThieves: if he sticks around then maybe it works out
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as "manifesting into organisation" tho
mircea_popescu: only lords may hire professionals, as far as the professionals know their own best interest.
ThickAsThieves: maybe, but the attempt would likely manifest into organization
mircea_popescu: god help the professional hired by a crowd.
mircea_popescu: anyway, not only they shouldn't , but they couldn't hire a professional that knows better.
ThickAsThieves: seeing rednecks fight for things opposed to their own position
mircea_popescu: are you the worst fucking nightmare of the proletariat ? claim you're the saviour of proletariat.
mircea_popescu: well, the welfare mass is trying to implement what it thinks high falootin' politix is, which ends up trying to re-implement the nonsense of their socialist masters,
ThickAsThieves: they see dogecoin on tv and get jealous
ThickAsThieves: but they are so backwards about it
ThickAsThieves: well any of the methods may work by chance or to some degree
mircea_popescu: the canonical case of sponsorship is art, of course.
mircea_popescu: anyway, sponsorships may work. it's just... they require some elements, such as lordship, that are absent for reddit's case.
bitcoinpete: the greed point is spot on too
mircea_popescu: "Its a bit like a man grunting at a woman hes attracted to. Theres no context, no clarity, no purpose, no potency, no efficacy. No finesse. No nuance. Marketing is an art, not some fucking blunt object for which to clobber your every desire. "
mircea_popescu: concerned as to her well being, convinced as to the dangers etc
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the editing dept sez : "deluded AS TO where you stand"
bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/NATOSource/status/463373724960301056/photo/1 <<canadians and romanians getting together outside irc. a thing of beauty
mircea_popescu: the common house cat idem
mircea_popescu: mastitis = death otherwise.
mircea_popescu: "You see, other than by chance, it is impossible to properly communicate and convince an audience of your position when you are deluded from where you stand in the first place." <<< you just summarized us dating.
asciilifeform: where vegetarian (TaT?) - 'animals didn't ask to be milked' - me: 'then let's milk the ones which we can ask'
asciilifeform thinks back to the discussion of which animals to milk, held at mp's meetup.
mircea_popescu: eh, changing designs. what is this, the web ?
artifexd: Add another layer of abstraction to the inside joke by changing "Got Milk?" to "Milk Life"
ThickAsThieves: i guess i should add alt text to the ad on my site
ThickAsThieves: i mena i guess it's all in the name
mircea_popescu: not like i own the trademark.
mircea_popescu: like next time WiredHerp comes here to ask questions and all he gets is a link to them being banned ? and an invitation to get his editor to fire the offending party and publish a retraction cum apology ?
ThickAsThieves: i look forward to the realization of blacklisting methods for Wired and such
asciilifeform: or - for that matter - the recent discussion about what it costs to house a google worker, and why
mircea_popescu: nobody cares about usagi, but some people - such as for instance I - care about the fact that we were doing insider jokes in 2011.
mircea_popescu: "Its an ugly thing, watching all these kids shoot from the hip." << ThickAsThieves haha actually i kinda enjoy it for the comedy value
ThickAsThieves: at first glance, it's confusing and distracting. then upon learning, it's just an inside joke mocking some nobody
mike_c: ThickAsThieves: eventually there will be a yahoo answers entry about "why does bitbet say 'got milk'" and it will be ok :)
mircea_popescu: because, of course, "customers can have a car any color they want"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what the inexistend fighter jet has cost << what would it have cost ussr to build a flat screen tv ?
mircea_popescu: the rules are that contracts are mandatory if either party desires, but may be waived as unnecessary if both parties wish to
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron who's the guy and why's he refusing to sign a contract ?
mircea_popescu: so we just took the "milk is a scam" thing.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves two years ago, usagi was doing this complex layered cake of very badly structured "corporations" that kept trading with each other then failing to execute the contracts etc. deprived kept calling him on it. for months, 100s of pages.
mircea_popescu: you know, "most military expenditure in the world", then russia pisses in your ear whenever it feels like.
mircea_popescu: well considering what the inexistend fighter jet has cost alreayd, i can only imagine what a shuttle would cost the usg
ThickAsThieves: i forget, what the heck does Got Milk? mean on Bitbet anyway?
asciilifeform: yeah i haven't kept up. no idea if there's a lockheed contract for trampoline yet.
asciilifeform: in other news: 'the U.S. should consider getting its astronauts to the International Space Station using a trampoline.'
asciilifeform: if someone were to find an actual exploit, of whatever kind, in whatever coin, the 'proof of the pudding' would be - 'in the eating.'
asciilifeform: 'i have psychic powers!' - 'tell me what is under the upturned pot.' 'fuck you i'm dragon.'
mircea_popescu: somewhere in the god forsaken thirld world where this isn't somehow self-obvious.
mircea_popescu: pankkake no. it's like writing "fraudulent pracitce of medicine will be prosecuted" on the hopsital
mircea_popescu: like you know, whatever fucking shaman in the depths of africa rubbing sticks together "knows" and consequently doesn't need to obtain a license to opine on matters of medicine
mircea_popescu: because why would he need to, right, because in the virtual reality he inhabits he is qualified.
asciilifeform: i.e. how would the cost of a double-spend possibly go down ?
chetty: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/putin-passes-law-requiring-38bln-security-payments-from-visa-mastercard/499532.html
asciilifeform: let's picture a source of hashing cycles, publicly auctioned. how would it not be subject to the same bidding dynamics as presently existing miners?
asciilifeform: there is the little detail that a (detectable) double-spend more or less buries a coin
mircea_popescu: there, 70% drop, go doublespend or w/e, show me how altcoin dies because whoa, sudden mandated diff changes.
mircea_popescu: the funny thing about that paper is, of course, that altcoin is being used currently exactly as experimental proof that his theory is nonsense.
asciilifeform: as if infinite cpu just sat there, on the shelf, its price entirely unaffected by this hypothetical.
mircea_popescu: "We claim that these built-in properties are not as brilliant as they are sometimes claimed."
kakobrekla: the forum is backwards
kakobrekla: they are a year behind?
kakobrekla: that was the case.
kakobrekla: actually, they charged me 0.01 to take 1 satoshi from me
kakobrekla: i had a picture where they charged me 0.01 to give me 0.
kakobrekla: stop with the slander
davout: kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=597647.0;topicseen <<< the forums realises why two cans and a string
HeySteve: Wi' tipenny, we fear nae evil; Wi' usquebae, we'll face the devil!
HeySteve: if you follow altcoins, this site rates them by market, repository and social media activity, may be useful data: http://www.coingecko.com/
mircea_popescu: there.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: pankkake when are we starting a business? we can call it "the Dropbox of water" << call it the dropbox of beer. you can go arounbd other people's tables and offer to store it for them.
mircea_popescu: steven-__: and they are just pushing him out now that his team is good << intel told me the same thing. "stfu with sterling, you're embarassing yourself. he's been an idiot worse than steinbrenner, nobody cared because the team used to suck."
mircea_popescu: via teh divine cunt's footnotes. http://trilema.com/2013/the-divine-cunt/#footnote_0_50163
mircea_popescu: ord money. That schizoid insanity is still torturing our fledging northern colonies to this day. "
mircea_popescu: ntry. Within a generation or two the prevailing winds changed, and most all of Victorian morals can adequately be reduced to and explained in terms of, the lords pushing their sponsored priests to go to war on their behalf, under the banners of other people should drink gin so as to make the lord money, but the people of this parish should not drink gin so as to be able to work long and hard, thus making the l
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: bounce: I've actually always suspected the religious case for prohibition was largely influenced by the cost of drinking taking money that could have been tithed << actually, it was leftover from english historical issues. "nitially gin was a welcome industry in England because it allowed a new class of consumption for grain, thus promising to elevate the prices of grain and so the profits of the landed ge
mircea_popescu: bounce: dropping php/mysql isn't a bad idea. but the replacement... some people are magnets for failure << i suspect mysql (just by itself) may actually be a better choice than mongodb.
mircea_popescu: bounce: eh, finance's not supposed to /drink/ anyway. << oddly, all good doctors i ever knew smoked like turks, and all good finance people were drunks. check out romania's cb president pro vita, his face has the distinct red marks of enjoying wine.
mircea_popescu: for from the crooked timber of humanity...
fluffypony: well that's the lesson that I learnt
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing to negotiate, see ? whereas as long as you are your own master for all you know your adiction is making a deal
mircea_popescu: the only logically sound way this proof works is if you're a slave and your master orders you to stop, without a specific timeframe. then yes.
mircea_popescu: Naphex: garbage article, opionions and arguments how fun << they've been having an eve corp whose shares are traded in bitcoin/equiv MPOE shares for... a year now ? more ?
mircea_popescu: like, derps believe "there is a god above" ? well, let's put some satellites in orbit, see what they do then ? ah, they still believe it, except it's now above-er ? win.
mircea_popescu: this happens to be how one defends himself from stupidity : by making the intellectual cost of stupidity skyrocket.
mircea_popescu: not only in tech terms, but also in intellectual terms. ie, the nonsense one has to believe in other to believe in taint.
mircea_popescu: artifexd: I can also just assert that the address isn't mine. Period. << absolutely. on the other hand, reusing addresses actually makes the stupidirty of "calculating taint" much more expensive.
mircea_popescu: it's not technically that, because in point of fact you *can* implement with single use addresses the same system. however, you could also not have, and likely the presumption will be that you have not. so it's more like proof that you have than anything
ozbot: The Codeless Code:
steven-__: i wonder if you lose your stuff like data in other failed startups
fluffypony: pankkake when are we starting a business? we can call it "the Dropbox of water"
steven-__: the first makespace post
pankkake: it's actually pretty much like the cloud
ozbot: Is This the Worst Tech Idea of 2014?
steven-__: hopefully now that magic is involved they can get it done
steven-__: They have been saying that for years
BingoBoingo: Hopefully it's the Rams
steven-__: this racism thing is just a way to sell it to the masses
steven-__: but now that its not a turd they took it away
BingoBoingo: ANd now they won't.
steven-__: they let him own a turd
BingoBoingo: Well if someone wants to own a turd, they can own a turd.
steven-__: and they are just pushing him out now that his team is good
Naphex: hehe, is there any though?:D
Naphex: Asus AMD Radeon R9 295X2, 8192MB + Asus X79 RAMPAGE IV BLACK EDITION was the expensive part
pankkake: what's lei? the doge to ron's bitcoin?
BingoBoingo: The only better time to practice than before is now
BingoBoingo: Another interesting exercise is holding coin and keeping it safe from technical threats and ill advised spending
BingoBoingo: steven-__: That's probably the safest thing. Probably wouldn't hurt to acquire some coin and dispose of some coin as practice if you haven't done much other than read yet.
chetty: the peaceful time of day
BingoBoingo: steven-__: You're welcome. What brings you to these parts?
gribble: Tithe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tithe>; tithed - definition of tithed by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tithed>; Tithe - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tithe>
pankkake: ;;google define:tithed
BingoBoingo: bounce: I've actually always suspected the religious case for prohibition was largely influenced by the cost of drinking taking money that could have been tithed
bounce: could well be from the idea that having people not spend several hundred beer tokens at the local watering hole each and every week would leave them with more money to spend on other things. then again, why aren't they waging national campaigns against audiophoolism? that's even more expensive and braindamaged.
pankkake: mongodb is amazing in the sense that 99% of its users do not need it, and create themselves new problems
bounce: dropping php/mysql isn't a bad idea. but the replacement... some people are magnets for failure
BingoBoingo: Because excess and poorly contextualized drinking can be destructive, apparently taking more than five drinks must be an illness. As opposed to the medical condition where the body has adapted to the presence of alcohol so much that discontinuing it is harmful.
bounce: we're still living with the damage