fluffypony: ThickAsThieves Presents: The Lion King Intro (Cover)
ThickAsThieves: it uses the hot air or some shit
benkay: what the hell is a hybrid water heater?
mircea_popescu: is the fan making noise because of mechanics or airflow ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves what's the noisy part ?
mircea_popescu: it's gotta be better than the shit on tv.
ThickAsThieves: and my garage is a converted recording studio in the making
ThickAsThieves: well, it'd more noisey than the A/C
ThickAsThieves: rather than solar, cuz it's better or cheaper or whatever
mircea_popescu: this is what people say whose washing machine water hose popped early in the unsupervised cycle
ThickAsThieves: motherfucking fuck
benkay: at least the number of fields is consistent. only saving grace.
benkay: is the notion that because it's in square brackets it'd be fine to include a space?
mircea_popescu: but the fields do not cointain spaces
mircea_popescu: benkay of course, traditional webserver access logs (the sort awstats processes) are in fact space separated
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benkay: can't tell if 'design' or just derps lifted out of someone else's DC for their 2 years in aws.
benkay: thestringpuller: you pang?
benkay: i'm new to this pressed shitboard thing and can never tell if a thing is done incorrectly or if there's a deeper shitboard reason for the derptastic engineering.
mircea_popescu: pankkake l'humanite was actually printed by jaures/the pcf
decimation: the other weird thing about US vs UK english is that the UK pronounce foreign words ... in English
decimation: the US was so overpopulated with Germans 100 years ago that they shaped American English
mircea_popescu: the english did have shakespeare
mircea_popescu: so, there's two fucking levels of pigdinization, and only the 2nd layer actually killed the possibility of expression
mircea_popescu: so we went into exploration and discovered that indeed, plain u is ju, otherwise neat u is oo
mircea_popescu: otherwise you'd spell it fucking toona
mircea_popescu: In the 80's it merged with Éditions J becoming Éditions Vaillant-Miroir Sprint (VMS) (by then i wasn't paying attention anymore)
mircea_popescu: pankkake : vaillant, French publisher, founded in July 1946 by the Front Patriotique de la Jeunesse (FPJ)
mircea_popescu: benkay you get to find out if it's the sort of competition you'd be better served working together with.
benkay: what, and help the competition?
bitcoinpete: "BTC China announced via Twitter today that it has suspended Chinese yuan deposits from the Bank of China"
mircea_popescu: benkay well, tell them :D
benkay: pretty sure i own the only contract development shop in the wot, but i'd be thrilled to meet some others.
pankkake: Pif was edited by l'Humanité, the communist newspaper (still active). though surpringly there wasn't much propaganda
mircea_popescu: benkay what are they supposed to be doing ?
benkay: not in the web of trust?
mircea_popescu: pankkake nah, i had the complete editions valliant, 1952 to 1970ish, bound in yearly tomes
pankkake: I'm probably too young for it. I haven't read much Pif either
pankkake: meuf would be the more common / younger saying
pankkake: the year after, you had to register to be allowed in :D
pankkake: IIRC there was only one girl :(
pankkake: apparently the tab was a few thousands
pankkake: I remember the day I got free drinks thanks to GitHub. Gave the tip to a bunch of people, most of them didn't even know what GitHub was
mircea_popescu: people buy the whole bar rounds when they have no good story to tell / no good toast to make all the damned time.
mircea_popescu: pankkake clearly you don't understand the party culture.
mircea_popescu: would you hire them to mew your lown ?
bitcoinpete: i wouldn't hire them to mow my lawn
mircea_popescu: specifically, the 1px thin lower border resulting from some real clever monkey in the photo chop seat.
mircea_popescu: so bitpay shared a wall with the guys.
bitcoinpete: like the tape
mircea_popescu: the risk of paying for walls : you may end up associated with the hobo pissing on them
mircea_popescu: the golden horror ?
pankkake: that was them?
kakobrekla: on the bright side, it was off by just a 1000.
fluffypony: pankkake, when we had our Bitcoin Black Friday special their API was unavailable
mircea_popescu: here i sit crushing my and every expert's brain as to why the fucking hell of fuck does bitbet aff not take off
pankkake: I just wanted to know what was the purchase link I created a while back, I don't use the API
pankkake: I hope it's not on the same servers :D
mircea_popescu: how's the api doing ?
bitcoinpete: keeping the door open is more cost-effective than fisa, etc
pankkake: This page (https://bitpay.com/merchant-login) is currently offline. However, because the site uses CloudFlare's Always Online™ technology you can continue to surf a snapshot of the site
pankkake: and of course I discover it because… the page isn't responding
bitcoinpete: all the muricans use cloudflare
ozbot: Twitter / ErikVoorhees: Spent over 40 minutes on the ...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: tesla's apparatus was briefcase-sized. and, according to rumour, the experiment has been replicated since. but, to no one's great surprise, the data in open literature is very scarce. << thatthing's like the water engine imo.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: unfortunately not, was off-the-cuff, but mostly just reiterated stuff I've mentioned in here before and did lots of marketing-droid-speak about The importance Of Adoption (tm)
mircea_popescu: check that out ye people behind the plastic curtain :
mircea_popescu: http://www.popularresistance.org/five-us-internet-providers-are-slowing-down-access-until-they-get-more-cash/
mircea_popescu: fluffypony congrats on media whoring. can you offer text summary for the audio patience challenged ?
blueocean: i just realized i've been using lol too much over the last few years. i apologize
BingoBoingo: It also matter that reduncancy is better than the lack thereof. Y is more vulnerable in both aspects.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I dunno about physical size, but the Y contains much less encoding and information.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i thought the Y was longer by like 15%
mircea_popescu: Alibaba is the fastest-growing Internet company in one of the fastest-growing economies in the world, said Sameet Sinha
mircea_popescu: because the male chromosome sucks and is larger and derpier
mircea_popescu: this, because cosmic rays kill the weaker male making sperm
mircea_popescu: it's well known that airplane pilots tend to father girls
asciilifeform: somewhere there lives an answer to this question. but i've a dump truck to move.
mircea_popescu: (from say cesium lodged in the woman's basin)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to a large degree, it hurts the fetuses, not the kids-to-be-born later
asciilifeform: another demographic - airplane stewardesses
asciilifeform: somebody should find the remaining sephardim who were, at one point, 'deloused' in israel with... xray machine
mircea_popescu: for the ovule to manage to come out it needs to pass a bunch of checks.
mircea_popescu: so you'll still be ovulating, esp as a young woman, no matter the dose.
mircea_popescu: the remaining tho, will.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> once you see the flash, gonads are well-done << this is quite not true, actually.
mircea_popescu: i guess the ideal underdesk packing would be butt, head, then torso atop and limbs atop that
asciilifeform: once you see the flash, gonads are well-done
mircea_popescu: tho gonads further complicate matters.
asciilifeform: because, 'once you see the flash, you've been xrayed'
asciilifeform: people laugh at bert the turtle
pankkake: the questions and responses were actually interesting
chetty: what, no more hide from the nukes under your desk???
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asciilifeform: ;;google bert the turtle
mircea_popescu: "At that point I took all the phones away and we had a little reminder chat about when it was appropriate to use your phone and when it was not. Also that it was rarely appropriate to hide under the table." chetty check this out : no longer appropriate to hide under desk in the us school system.
asciilifeform: this is why the ball needs pedestal
mircea_popescu: add a stick to the ball.
mircea_popescu: perhaps the dominant one by now
mircea_popescu: i imagined surely they must have smartphone accelerometer as an interface
asciilifeform: i've yet to meet one that would take seriously the idea of using a 'spaceball' for control, in place of the nonsensical double mini-joystick (inherited from model cars!)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo iirc he said something or the other about some stadium accident. beautyon has the story.
asciilifeform: ussr was set up as bone-simple, rather than optimal, apparatus.
asciilifeform: in ussr they at least occasionally administered medicinal beatings
asciilifeform: to folks with this particular form of brain damage, garbageman should seem like the height of occupational importance pyramid
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they happen more in italy.
mircea_popescu: "Today was the first day in a long time I actually took phones away. I have no idea what all was included in the update, but you would have thought it was crack. They seriously could not keep away from it. I even had one girl crawl under the table with her phone."
asciilifeform: these actually happen in usa
asciilifeform: every kindergarten teacher combined << add up the earnings of all of the garbagemen in your country. and to see what value they create, visit a city with 'garbage strike'
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo didn't they ban that uk fellow recently ?
thestringpuller: For quite awhile now, kids have had a real anxiety about being separated from their phone, but today it was near panic. I am hoping by tomorrow some of the novelty will have worn off and we can get back to business.
mircea_popescu: twitter : "25 hedge fund managers earned more than double every kindergarten teacher combined. But who created more value?" mp : "Definitely no kindergarten "teacher" ever created any value. Just trying to claim the workings of nature for themselves."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the best error << see 'precision vs. accuracy', as (perhaps even still?) taught in school
mircea_popescu: MP : The point of womanhood is for the woman to start a new life, as a new person, once she sexually matures.
mircea_popescu: also in the news, Human Rights Watch : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bm-xzUvCMAI7FVZ.jpg
mircea_popescu: it'd seem to me the principal utility of ripple these days is so that banking idiots who wish to spend longer with their head in the sand can pretend like they're not.
mircea_popescu: "Join me & meet the old & new in payments (@AmericanExpress, @Visa, & @RippleLabs)"
mircea_popescu: i'd have to spend weeks with recordings of ethnology and folklore to listen for the double n construct tho, and i obviously have not the time for it.
mircea_popescu: and moreover, why the d is rendered as n in a double n, wtf, this isn't even a documented consonant migration afaik
mircea_popescu: if it's indeed arrendar, one's to explain how the hell vulgar latin yielded the same thing in south italy and in south spain
mircea_popescu: but look at the beauty of what is (could be) in a word :
mircea_popescu: they're not huh.
mircea_popescu: well if they were from calabria...
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: unfortunately the grandparents I have that are still alive are very peasant, so I'm not going to get much more out of them
mircea_popescu: fluffypony im kinda after the root of that arrenne magical word. i'm pretty sure it's neither to forget nor to be.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: 'bb' caliber cannons. or, alternatively and more simply, rams. << i remember watching a rather interesting "electricity stealing" competition among some flying items a few years ago.
mircea_popescu: "oh this opressive government and the fucking courts which we can say we live in a tyrannical tyranny!11"
mircea_popescu: "so i contributed some equity" "to whom ?" "to someone" "so what do you want ?" "a share of the profit" "of whom ?!" "of someone"
mircea_popescu: holy shit. the ipo of an anon entity ? logic just got knotted into a pretzel and ate itself.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: I imagine we'll fill the wiki with important points over time << as stan'd say, i can also see another scenario, where the wiki is still where it's now, a decade later.
mircea_popescu: the best error, like the best entropy, is the result of a different approach than culture.
mircea_popescu: it does not however help the quality of one's error.
mircea_popescu: see, specialisation refines and improves the quality of one's corectness.
asciilifeform: but having ingested the entire rotten egg - no bet.
asciilifeform: i'd have bet, on account of the first page or two of the turd smelling of crafted disinfo
asciilifeform: where crypto academics are quietly slipped various turds to print under their names. 'can also have problems.'
asciilifeform: of course i can picture another scenario
mircea_popescu: at which point you're suddenly afraid to let them use metal objects on your soft bit.
mircea_popescu: it's as if you were a woman, and visited gynecologists monthly, until one day when you discovered they decided football was part of gynecology, and then kept running into one another on the field like drunk sperms.
mircea_popescu: and the way he goers about it makes one fucking petrified of these folks' general competence and ability as displayed at the daily business of their chosen field.
asciilifeform: as far as i can see, this fellow's a genuine, if unimaginative crypto type. and bitcoin is now part of the mandatory 'gentleman's set' of topics such a creature must at least pretend to show an interest in. hence paper.
JorgePasada: mircea_popescu: The scary part is when they fit data to their ideas/ideals instead of the other way around
mircea_popescu: but in the 80s i recall it being somewhat of a big deal
mircea_popescu: he has an entire list of derp there. "On Subversive Miner Strategies and Block Withholding Attack in Bitcoin Digital Currency"
JorgePasada: mircea_popescu: Is that the Intellectual consistency through ignorance approach?
mircea_popescu: check out the new/bomb bullets.
asciilifeform: that paper was a true masterpiece of the 'chicken recipe' where the chicken never turned up.
mircea_popescu: JorgePasada well you know, if one can't reach eventual intellectual consistency through logical means, the only method available is not asking questions.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: eventually, i see fewer people walking into bitcoin (and assets) like they own the place << kinda what i'm trying to get with the trouting various clueless twits a la courtois. "it ain't yo momma's btc, yo! show some respek!"
JorgePasada: and the worst part is they don't even try to question their own understanding and/or more accurately drill down on meaning
mircea_popescu: the mystery lemma of -assets is that no matter in what asshole of the world any one assetteer lives, there's at least one that lives within visiting distance.
fluffypony: JorgePasada: I see our friends in the Neo&Bee thread don't understand that when you and I say "creditor" we mean "creditor" and not "investor"
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mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yeah ideally the wiki should end up a sort of short story of all the blawgs.
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> pankkake: eventual consistency, within 3 weeks! << for all the beating eventual consistency gets, the sad secret elephant in the room is that all business in the history of business for the past 1k years has been of the eventual consistency types. what do you think double entry accounting is.
mircea_popescu: <Apocalyptic> "King Dragon @The1KingDragon Security Professional, CEO CryptoRush" << FUCK YOU. he's a KING dragon.
mircea_popescu: and depends what your interest is. my mention was something to the effect of, "some frenchie took the pseudo-statistics that yielded the golf club pattern in climate pseudo-science and applied it to pseudo-economics"
mircea_popescu: <Apocalyptic> haven't these guys given up already ? << i was kinda surprised myself.
TomServo: More to the point, is his book worth reading?
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> that gap is unbridgeable. ask hanbot. << hanbot teh bridge builder. in full leather regalia and with three whips and twoi lashes in each hand.
TomServo: mircea_popescu: I seem to recall you mentioning Piketty, but don't recall the context. Was it regarding his book?
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://thedoghousediaries.com/comics/uncategorized/2014-05-05-cc318e9.png << no actually i said that. sorry.
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> besides the various forms of writing an address, I guess there are RIPEMD-160 collisions? << a ripemd-160 collision that'd make two diff bitcoin addresses out of one key is kinda improbable even theoretically tho
kakobrekla: you got a mention in the sauce.
asciilifeform: if you can induce oscillations strong enough to stretch the materials past breaking point.
asciilifeform: to finish the previous story - not everything is a wine glass. but anything that can be induced to behave like one, can be broken in just this way.
mike_c: when I looked at the cookie it said it expired in an hour.
mike_c: plus, the ref cookie only seems to be good for an hour.
kakobrekla: feel free to look at the code
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asciilifeform: but with an automated widget that determines the glass's resonant freq.
asciilifeform: mike_c: ever do the famous oscilloscope and breaking glass experiment?
davout: THEY'RE COOL THO
davout: "other - tesla's apparatus" <<< how? i would have said the second method involved some sort of sending waves through the earth and manage to use some sort of resonance phenomenon
asciilifeform: tesla's apparatus was briefcase-sized. and, according to rumour, the experiment has been replicated since. but, to no one's great surprise, the data in open literature is very scarce.
asciilifeform: other - tesla's apparatus
davout: pankkake: doubtful, the last japenese earthquake cost sthg like 750,000
davout: asciilifeform: are you implying that a human action could have some influence on the tectonic movements leading to an earthquake?
asciilifeform: davout: how 'mega' would depend on the tectonics of a particular location.
pankkake: is there a rss feed per author on cryptocoinnews?
asciilifeform: startled executives, according to a participant in the meeting.'
asciilifeform: '"We can turn your computer into a brick," U.S. officials told the
asciilifeform: or, at least, stipulate in the rules that both fighters must share a channel
asciilifeform: there is enough 'design space' to make the tourney interesting. e.g. a smaller and more maneuverable craft is harder to blast with the glue gun, etc.
BingoBoingo: I'm thinking of the stuff developed a while back for non-lethal anti personel use
BingoBoingo: I could see a sticky hardening foam interfering with the aerodynamics of non-rotor aircraft
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: only the ones with exposed rotors.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I imagine the drones having hardening foams and nets, seem more likely to cripple competing aircraft.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
fluffypony: ;;later tell mircea_popescu my nonna phoned me back to say that they were discussing the piece of poetry, and she suggests this alternative: "This is a beautiful story for whoever listens to it, beautiful the people that tell the story, beautiful the land that cannot be forgotten, beautiful Michela she will be"
gribble: The operation succeeded.
bitcoinpete: ;;later tell heysteve i haven't seen your links on crytocoinnews so feel free to pass them along!
fluffypony: I started typing a reply to them but ya know
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Well, it is hard to characterize the eventual trajectory of any given true n00b.
thestringpuller: ah so the true n00b usually has a short attention span like the kids of the MTV generation @_@
bitcoinpete: thestringpuller: the true n00b is already losing interest in bitcoin, though "cryptocurrency in general" still has their attention
thestringpuller: because i had a discussion recently on the "true n00b"
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: That's a good question. I imagine we'll fill the wiki with important points over time, but in the long run it will probably be spread over the blogs. Maybe when it becomes a concern there might be a discussion of some sort of archive-assets for blogs that lose viability to to operator inability to continue them.
bitcoinpete: eventually, i see fewer people walking into bitcoin (and assets) like they own the place
pankkake: I guess you end up reading old, important artists with all the links
bitcoinpete: the wiki is one
bitcoinpete: thestringpuller: this is something we've discussed before i believe… and there's no one clear answer.
thestringpuller: bitcoinpete: What do you think will be the "premiere" archive of information? I imagine all the good info in BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves Trilema your's and other blogs will eventually be archived into the "Manual for the Bitcoin n00b"
Apocalyptic: these are some epic credentials
Apocalyptic: "King Dragon @The1KingDragon Security Professional, CEO CryptoRush"
fluffypony: when you can have 3 different trades confirmed at the same time
Apocalyptic: at this point the only thing that comes to mind is : "i don't even..."
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: but don't worry, despite being gutted and having a scam-IPO to rebuild they're going to use MongoDB because it solves everything!
Apocalyptic: whereas they don't have a single clue
Apocalyptic: fluffypony:WHY ARE PEOPLE SO FUCKING RETARDED // cause they think they can build an exchange
gribble: The operation succeeded.
artifexd: As evidenced by the slowly growing population of this channel?
bitcoinpete: mike_c the gap for all is unbridgeable, but there are some caught in the thorns that can be freed
Apocalyptic: haven't these guys given up already ?
bitcoinpete: more blogs like thickasthieves and further helping to broaden our network
bitcoinpete: and i don't mind dealing with the press
thestringpuller: originally mircea_popescu said when dealing with the press: "don't, they are too stupid to live" or something thereof
thestringpuller: bitcoinpete: i like tho how people are following trilema-esque articles now in relation to bitcoin with the big push from your blog