a111: Logged on 2016-03-31 15:52 mircea_popescu: and the start and end of it all is, these atrocious fucktards, who think "sadly there's too many bars" and the whole surface of club in buenos aires would fit in one sane club in a sane place,
mircea_popescu: apparently there's nothing quite as destructive of the human mind than insistently inculcated & socialized conviction that "there's a lot out there". i liveblogged how this fucked up argentina, ( http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-31#1442615 will have to do, i can't find the original discussion with the local dork now) and well...
asciilifeform: ( 'played role to the end! growled as he expired! posthumous award of order-of-lenin!' )
asciilifeform: in sov. urban legendology there is a persistent, if not particularly plausible, tale, that some d00d had been given the job of dressing up in bear costume for brezhnev's safaris, and eventually shot
mircea_popescu: 2. twentysomething "has learned something from his journey", proceeds to explore the vast echo chambers of "social" media with IMPROVED TOOLS!!! he has paper cutout placeholder chix 'so others come' nao, he is sly and urban nao, all those "other losers" that don't think of this (null set) be damned.
mircea_popescu: rmed by Soviet mass culture? Mass-cultural statements are constantly in the process of making themselves true by causing people to experience their common lives in those terms." :
mircea_popescu: we could restate the life narrative of the millenian in the terminology of "It may be argued that what is wrong with Soviet art is not that it restricts itself to the common experience but that its version of that experience is false; were it faithfully to reflect the true experience of the Soviet masses it might be valid art. But how can one speak of a common Soviet experience without taking into account that it itself is fo
mircea_popescu: in this sense, "transsexualism" is merely conceptyual leakage brought about by the sort of leaky abstractions that go in the making of an ivan in the first place.
mircea_popescu: i would guess about 60% or so of 2?F "sub" girlies exist on fetlife only as the fruit of the overactive imagination of a beta "M" somewhere.
asciilifeform: wonder how many of those accts consist solely of ivan, and a paper cutout placeholder chix 'so others come'. sorta like duck hunt decoy.
mircea_popescu: are you questioning their traditions ?
asciilifeform: hmm, possibly ben_vulpes knows the troof re what vaccines still given in usa to schoolkidz.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, http://thetarpit.org/uploads/2018/10/heraklion-15-thumb.jpg << is that serpentine a typical greek runway ? somehow seems oddly adequate...
asciilifeform: ( bush II hurriedly reintroduced it, but only in the army )
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what you're talking about. as far as i know ~all white kids are vaccinated around 1 year and then right before kindergarten ; and have since about 1920.
asciilifeform: tho i did think the 'vaccination, eh, so 19th c' thing were a recent ('90s?) fashion
mircea_popescu: why the fuck ?
mircea_popescu: too much dulche the leche icecream bb!
BingoBoingo: For some reason my tonsils got huge and they feel like they are trying to pull out the insides of my ears. Going to go test the socialized medicine.
asciilifeform: ( unlike e.g. xen, these are pretty rare, at least publicly )
asciilifeform: in other lulz, 'VMware ESXi, Fusion and Workstation contain an out-of-bounds read vulnerability in SVGA device. This issue may allow a guest to execute code on the host.'
asciilifeform: if node answers, it gets asked version, then getaddr, then given 10sec to issue 'inv' (for tx observatory), then (not baked this yet) gets asked to provide a block from known_blocks.
asciilifeform: when idling, N (parallel) threads select probe candidates from 'nodes', with highest priority given to 'untried', followed by 'live', followed by 'dead', in the latter two cases probed if and only if 'time_probed' is > hour ago
asciilifeform: i'm currently thinking of giving 'tx observatory' a rollover of 3 days ( i.e. drop all that have time older than 3d, nightly ) to keep the mass manageable there
asciilifeform: ^ and if anyone has a handy dumpblock-derived list with which to populate known_blocks , plox to sign & post, otherwise i'ma bake one laters
asciilifeform: in other minor noose, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/hKCPp/?raw=true << preliminary db schema for node hunter
BingoBoingo: It also has the extended title "Shut Your Mouth And Save Your Life"
BingoBoingo: In other classics: "No person on earth who reads this little work will condemn it: it is only a question how many millions may look through it and benefit themselves by adopting its precepts." The preface to George Catlin's mega work titled 'Shut Your Mouth'
BingoBoingo: There is one known very priviledged duck in this world too valuable to be used to satisfy this transaction, and then there are the world's other ducks which are a tastier alternative to chicken and priced accordingly
a111: Logged on 2014-02-01 13:05 mircea_popescu: 4. you subdivide both divisions. now you have a list of people who know you fucked up twice, this you discard ; two lists of people who think you go tone out of two. these you merge ; a most valuable list of idiots who think you got 2 out of 2.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: typically, for smalltime scamola targeted at outright downs syndrome cases, they use http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-01#472247 algo, rather than direct marketing
BingoBoingo: Now imagine Canada, they would advertise they are the Canadian Government selling fake passports
asciilifeform: ( i betcha his cellmates laugh even today when he tells about this, over a cup of whatever-they-drink-instead-of-chifir over there )
asciilifeform: btw if anyone recalls carl force, the sr 'detective' -- iirc he actually bought one of them 'passports' and thought to break from zone with it !
asciilifeform: i've ended up on the spam lists, they push errything from dead-tree 'how-to'-s (because, i suppose, if chump is this dumb, he is prolly on aol, and can't download scans, and will ~pay~ for xerox-of-xerox...) , to faux bananistani 'passports', to weirdo sect/christ-besotted crapolade
mircea_popescu: "here's a list of gps bracelets, anklets and necklaces for people who wanna break out of the zone" "are you fucking stupid ?" "niggers usually are."
a111: Logged on 2018-10-17 16:11 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The Canadian arrangement appears to be large "favored son" private grow ops selling profitably to the provincial governments who then go on to mark the stuff up even more.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-17#1863359 << bureaucracy tryna be as cool as mob. traditional way for the dicklets to hang themselves.
BingoBoingo at some point will likely edit and publish the out takes that weren't central enough to make cannabis piece.
BingoBoingo: They do indeed
asciilifeform: re 'preppers'(tm)(r), usg has a certain lulzy tradition, where they set up honeypot vendors for 'prepping supplies' (buckets, cosmoline, etc) and keep list of who's buyin', 'for later'
BingoBoingo: Other principal republican value is killing moths and vermin
BingoBoingo: Now, the dry flower hoarder is going to be poorer than the Bitcoin hoarder because it takes large amounts of flowers to sum up to anything of value
BingoBoingo: Promotion of the hoarding of tradable valuables is a principal republic value
asciilifeform: the moar general item alluded to , is that from pantshit pov , 'unauthorized hoarders' of ~any~ tradeable/valuable item, not merely btc,gold,magic leaf, are 'problem'
BingoBoingo: Republic settles in bitcoins, filthy hippies settle in weird dry flowers, fiatists instead try to imagineer their way out of settling transactions
BingoBoingo: And it is clear fiatists fear drugs as a more real currency than their own offering.
BingoBoingo: What, National Geographic never aired 4 seasons of "Doomsday Preppers" about people keeping years of beans in their closets?
asciilifeform: that's the Official arg, at any rate; but i suspect a broader thing
trinque: the point is to make competition with state monopoly illegal
asciilifeform: i suppose if yer found with 'stockpile', it 'proves' that you didn't get it from them ( why wouldja stockpile a thing that comes from 'abc store' )
BingoBoingo: It also is apparently illegal in Canadia to have more than 30 grams of "legal" weed. I never recall there being any limits on how many budweisers a cornfuck can keep in their fridge.
BingoBoingo: Like the ABC stores in shitty US states, except with more explicit collusion than the ABC stores can get with liquor makers.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The Canadian arrangement appears to be large "favored son" private grow ops selling profitably to the provincial governments who then go on to mark the stuff up even more.
asciilifeform: ( going for ~200 yrs nao, with very short pause during attempt at 'dry law' and then revolution )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-17#1863344 << i expect it'll be something like the traditional state vodka monopoly in ru
asciilifeform: in not wholly-unrelated lulz, the # of prb 'nodes' that break the protocol in all kinds of ways, is astonishing even to asciilifeform ; it's a wonder they manage to relay anyffing at all
BingoBoingo: Well, pointing out the STRML dude from BitMex was here, can not claim ignorance
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: afaik all public 'exchanges' are tentacles of the beast, at this point, to ~exactly equal extent, and for the obv reason
a111: Logged on 2015-01-20 19:18 mircea_popescu: "BitMEX is the first centrally cleared derivatives exchange. " << the first it certainly isn't.
asciilifeform: meanwhile in heathen idjicy (expert entomologists strictly!) : https://archive.is/tDauD << notice what's conspicuously missing...
asciilifeform suspected '50:50' 'eaten by heathens' vs 'long voyage under sail'. happily turns out -- the latter
deedbot: ave1 rated trinque 2 << cuntoo and the wallet
a111: Logged on 2018-10-16 20:36 Mocky: BingoBoingo, usually by the end of winter I look like a coffee with too much cream, but slightly too much summer sun and I turn into kunta kinte for 6 months
BingoBoingo: ATTN: Over the next few weeks I will be making some fairly big changes to the Pizarro website (theme chopping, pictures, etc) If the pizarro site is broken and stays broken please let me know.
BingoBoingo: Mocky: That sounds rather healthy. My face and ears have taken to the color red as a seemingly permanent part of their color palette
Mocky: BingoBoingo, usually by the end of winter I look like a coffee with too much cream, but slightly too much summer sun and I turn into kunta kinte for 6 months
BingoBoingo: My arms and legs manage to tan to darker shades with sun exposure, but my face pretty much constantly stays in a state of more or less accute sunburn regardless of the quantity and frequency of "bloqueador de sol" applied
diana_coman: I can easily picture that really; at any rate, I got otherwise at least 2 shades darker after the few days by the ocean and even now (so...2 months later) I'm still darker than my natural shade
diana_coman: ahahah; well, I did get sunburn on my shoulders in Costa Rica but mainly because of being in the water most of time while at the beach
diana_coman: anyways, each with their own head
diana_coman: I can say the same, but honestly, it was never enough protection against the sun (and fwiw I have thick hair anyway)
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, second asciilifeform there: it does sound like heat stroke really; cover your head
asciilifeform: then what ails you is old-fashioned heat stroke, drink water
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I did wear the UV filters today
asciilifeform: mno then not this, no headache from cornea burn, just 1 hell of an itch and quicker cataract
BingoBoingo: Well, in this southern hell afternoon walks may lead to a bit of a headache. It increases in intensity and seens to be centered around the eyes.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, also, "comminsion" in the most recent qntra title?
BingoBoingo back from paying the rent, pretty sure they eyes managed to get a bit of sunburn in spite of sunglasses
diana_coman: that should be all, apologies for the long list of !!v
deedbot: diana_coman updated rating of mircea_popescu from 5 to 7 << writes at trilema.com; at the centre of it all, like it or not; met irl.
deedbot: diana_coman updated rating of hanbot from 2 to 5 << writes at http://thewhet.net/; met irl.
deedbot: diana_coman updated rating of phf from 2 to 4 << writes at http://barksinthewind.com/
BingoBoingo: In other local news, neighbors miss the recently destroyed, poorly stocked, drug fort https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/vecinos-extranan-la-seguridad-del-muro-narco-de-su-barrio-20181015192742
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: enjoy the road
mircea_popescu: anyway, /me shall be back ~thurs, though might say hi on the road. but will certainly read teh logs!
mircea_popescu: sounds like the perfect plan
diana_coman: kk; I'll keep up this approach of published-even-if-stumbling small steps so on one hand there is something concrete to shoot down if needed and on the other hand we can correct any trouble early on, hopefully
mircea_popescu: things are kinda deliberately made to dovetail with ada, so i hope they do and if they don't we fix.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-16 13:56 asciilifeform: diana_coman: you won't need to do any of the streams horror that i did there, because those of your subfields that are arrays, have strictly bounded sizes
asciilifeform: back when i wrote in c, i also serialized/deserialized 'just once', when casting packet to the correct struct, but to precisely nail down the latter required gcc-specific pragmas, as c per se does not give this ability. but in ada the required knobs are standard.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: aha; you dun actually need to shovel raw octets anywhere other than the udp transceiver
diana_coman: anyway, when I get to the data structures, I'll see re serializing
diana_coman: that was my whole point of the separation between layer 0 and layer 1 there: at 0 everything is just an array of octets, nothing more
diana_coman: and added for clarification re converters since it struck me that it might be unclear there what's all about: http://ossasepia.com/2018/10/16/smg-comms-chapter-2-raw-types/comment-page-1/#comment-4341
asciilifeform: it was one of the items i saw back in '16 and thought 'hmm'
asciilifeform: kinda like cl's 'binary-types' thing, but as part of the language, rather than add-on hackolade
asciilifeform: of all the various items asciilifeform has used over the yrs, ada ( and not even 'modern', but even back in ada-83 ) has the absolute sanest support for strict record layout that actually worx as described
asciilifeform: same proggy i took the udp lib from
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if you get stuck i'ma show you how to make it go, cleanly, i have a working example of nearly the same thing you're doing ( gossip prototype thing ) that simply hasn't been cleaned for publication of yet
diana_coman: thing is: there are lots of this "int8 number of keys" followed by "n*int8 key ids" and this in turn is just part of the wider thing
asciilifeform: diana_coman: you won't need to do any of the streams horror that i did there, because those of your subfields that are arrays, have strictly bounded sizes
diana_coman: at any rate when I get to the records I might come and whine loudly if I get stuck
diana_coman: I expect /hope so; meanwhile it's very good to have that observation there, thank you!
asciilifeform: diana_coman: dun worry, it will make sense very quickly when you bake the record
diana_coman: it might really be that my ada-fu is not up to the task yet
asciilifeform: the fs as we know it is a classic example of 'plugging funnel at wrong end'.
asciilifeform: a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1863136 - machine needs no predefine fs, you can use whatever data structures you like and they'll still be there when the power is cycled, per http://www.loper-os.org/?p=231 formula.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-16 11:51 mircea_popescu: man-drive dialogue flows always like : "i want file X" "wtf is that ?" "tell me what i told you before file X is supposed to be" "bytes 4978459876 through 50987498098" "i want bytes 4978459876 through 50987498098 please" "here you go" "are these file X ?" "fuck you" "does file X even exist ?" "little bitch..." "grep -a -C 500 'known pattern' /dev/sda | tee /tmp/recover"
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-16 11:44 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1863111 << thinking about this in the interim, it is EVIDENTLY the case. "files" as in ~the fucking thing REFERENCED~ in the "file"system names aren't even first class abstractions! the drive's a BYTE device! there's no fucking files ANYWHERE except in the imagination.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-16#1863191 << bonus: nobody actually sells a hdd that's 'byte device', they're addressable in 512byte blox ( and internally with 4096byte flash sectors ) and it actually makes a diff , not only in re speed but the life of the iron ( erry sector can be written ~2000 times )
mircea_popescu: man-drive dialogue flows always like : "i want file X" "wtf is that ?" "tell me what i told you before file X is supposed to be" "bytes 4978459876 through 50987498098" "i want bytes 4978459876 through 50987498098 please" "here you go" "are these file X ?" "fuck you" "does file X even exist ?" "little bitch..." "grep -a -C 500 'known pattern' /dev/sda | tee /tmp/recover"
mircea_popescu: "then you want to put these '''maximal freedom''' elements in a tree ?" "it's not a tree, it's a '''directory structure'''." "wtf is that ?" "a half-baked tree." "you're really dedicated to this half-baked thing beyond all else, aren't you ?"
mircea_popescu: and obviously most of the reason the sql flavour is broken is because "oh, structure could never be aforeknown" and so "must have maximal hallucinatory freedoms".
mircea_popescu: in any case there's no such thing as a filename anywhere at all, it's not even 2nd class, it's a sort of indian.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 19:24 mircea_popescu: s a file system AT ALL, and the "all things are files" is just a thin wraper on a turd sausage made out of "we have no data model beyond ram and our disk doesn't actually work".
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1863111 << thinking about this in the interim, it is EVIDENTLY the case. "files" as in ~the fucking thing REFERENCED~ in the "file"system names aren't even first class abstractions! the drive's a BYTE device! there's no fucking files ANYWHERE except in the imagination.
mircea_popescu: yknow it occurs to me, one could make a likely very popular film, call it "captive" or w/e, simply through filming the male seminal canal from teste to ligature point in one of those tube-tied doods. 4 minuites of voice-over at the beginning explaining what's what ("this is joe. joe is a sperm." bla bla) and then the rest of an hour and a half just... let people watch the random walk.
bvt: i have already reworked the code based on the following code from GNAT: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/xjjec/?raw=true (g-locfil.adb, lockfile implementation). i.e. System.Address of an aliased String as argument to C function.
bvt: thanks, i see what you mean. the Interfaces.C.Strings.New_String() comments explicitly say that the heap allocation is necessary for the large strings, which is not the case for vpatch temporary file names.
ave1: Using the stack makes code less error prone and a lot more readable, please read the FFA code; http://www.loper-os.org/?cat=49.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 19:13 bvt: ave1, can you expand on getting rid of string allocations? I see a way to get rid of it for Mode, but not for the Path argument. i can move its c-string from heap to stack, but that would be it. anyhow, i will revise this aspect.
ave1: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1863087, look at the pasted code. Yes, you move it from a dynamic allocation on the heap to a "dynamic allocation" on the stack. With the major advantage that the stack is a well defined mechanism with predictable results where dynamic allocations are not.
lobbes: yeah, that makes sense. Ol' causes and purposes. The only cause I can see right now for separate bot is if wanting to keep it on separate box
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 15:44 asciilifeform: in unrelated noose, mod6 et al : loox like trb doesn't remove banned peers from its addr table ! i.e. offers their addrs up to others, as if they were proper noades!! i never noticed this previously, it had to wait to be found empirically. really oughta be fixed, and pretty simple patch.
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1862873 << Thanks for reporting. I'll add this to the list to take a look @ & replicate.
mircea_popescu: this should be approached rather thjan fled from
a111: Logged on 2018-01-15 11:44 lobbes: btw "!Qsarchive" (without the "-") also works to call the command. ("!Qs" was already in-use to search logs.minigame.bz)
lobbes: there's that. then there's also the "command namespace collisions" issue. For example http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-15#1770696
mircea_popescu: is it that your mental picture of the bot gets too gnarly because of all these diff functions ?
mircea_popescu: i guess the idea is, i dunno what you're trying to achieve ?
lobbes: but maybe you have a point. I gotta noodle on it. there's a balance somewhere
lobbes: or perhaps lobbesbot can be the 'misc bot'
lobbes: and not all on one box either
lobbes: but there's still the !Qlater tell, the #eulora log-quoting, #eulora log search, etc. I guess I figured why not take the opportunity to organize vastly different functionalities into separate bots. (e.g. all the logger-related functionality in one bot, auction/ticker-announce/price-history in auctionbot, everything-else in 'miscbot')
lobbes: well, my ultimate aim is to eventually rewrite ALL of lobbesbot's functionality to stand on top of logbot versus the heathen limnoria. auctionbot was the first victory in this regard.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1862788 << this is a good idea for a feature. Once I get logbot-voicing figured out I'm thinking of setting up a general purpose 'miscbot' for such things as the later-tell and the duckduckgo search. I'll try and work this into the later-tell feature
lobbes: I'll start working to get the voicing figured out for auctionbot and bring it in here.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1862662 << yeah, I think I must've still been waking up that morning. my unexamined line of thought at the time was that since it doesn't list in here, there's no need to have it here. Then I remembered there's still use in, e.g. being able to bid, view orders, etc.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-11 17:08 asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf i recently found that lcd panel made by (defunkt) 'pixelqi co', pq3qi-01 , is still sold by chinese ( i have nfi if clones, or old stock ), ~100 $ ea; the thing toggles from 1024x600 colour/backlit into a 3072x600 greyscale reflector thing, worx with various lappies ( sadly not x60, it's a 16:9 )
asciilifeform: in oooother noose, 'pixelqi' lcd ( thread http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-11#1860677 ) is ~not~ compat with 'lenovo s10-3' -- screw holes in wrong places , and connector dun reach .
Mocky: they also have uber-knockoffs, one named careem
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/tell-me-what-if-the-republic-were-antique/ << Trilema - Tell me, what if the Republic were antique ?
BingoBoingo: To update the binder hole count, Uruguay is a two hole binder country
asciilifeform: flash disk really oughta be simply a thing that kicks in when the power fails and box runs from capacitor and saves state.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wrote about this on my www in the past, whole concept of 'file system' is consequence of the nonvolatile memory poverty that gave us the orig ram/disk split
mircea_popescu: ie, not "all things are files", but "the only way you can access the disk is through this mangled malloc"
mircea_popescu: and the deeper issue might be that there is in fact no os, just a maldesigned, half-impelemented, thoroughly buggy process emulator shoehorned into describing a disk.
mircea_popescu: right. but this wasn't because "nobody thought of file names like, ever". it was fucking because "nobody CAN think of file names, because there's a deeper issue"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform previous run into this was with the "what's a file's name" ambiguity i axed into "fully specified paths inclued". but that wasn't the problem, that was a random symptom of the fact nobody ever thought about files in unix.
a111: Logged on 2013-12-22 16:56 asciilifeform: 'what people want is a function of what they learn is available. e.g., do Americans want three-ring binders, and Europeans four-ring binders? or do they want binders and take whatever number of holes they come with? or do they want something that can help them organize their papers and take whatever is available? or do they really want a less cluttered office and ease of storage and retrieval of the infor
mircea_popescu: just because they all point to the coconut shop dun mean coconut shop is either a club or a place you'd take the whores.
mircea_popescu: or rather, the item all the locals point to when asked about bar/club/disco/where the fuck do you take the whores ?!?!?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: observe that current subj is a classic '4 ring binder' . we arent actually looking for file lock, file lock simply happens to be the only available ~working tool for machinewide-semaphore
mircea_popescu: so the situation may actually be that no computer system currently deployed actually has a file system.
mircea_popescu: most terrifying part being that i can readily review history to the point where this would very much have been exactly the implicit assumption, because fuck tape.
bvt: it seems that 'c strings' in ada are still controlled by ada mechanisms, i.e. they are ada strings (with bounds checking), just with null byte in the end
mircea_popescu: s a file system AT ALL, and the "all things are files" is just a thin wraper on a turd sausage made out of "we have no data model beyond ram and our disk doesn't actually work".
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 19:15 asciilifeform: bvt: i find it mind-boggling that there is not a standard , portable , machine-wide locking mechanism. but apparently this is so.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1863091 << at present i believe the ~entire file model~ in unix might have been subtly broken since the very beginning, and that breakage has in turn informed the way people think about the fs/os interface so as to not notice it. because it's as you see, a widening breach, what started with atomic creation moved on to permissions, and in general... in a word, it's not directly evident unix ha
bvt: i have my own painful experience with them
bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1863102 -- well they moved to another file, with tempfile implementation. i guess ave1 knows a total cure
mircea_popescu: bvt you asking for a primer on the longstanding hatred of c strings here, or found on own ?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 19:11 bvt: btw, now vpatch.adb does not require Interfaces.C/Int.C.Strings for anything, they will go away in the revised vpatch.
bvt: yes, these lockfiles are just a big mess.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 19:10 bvt: should set everything up till the end of the week. i didn't rent a rk; but already tested pressing mp-wp locally.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Looking superficially at the law for it, it seems like a way to attract crowdfund stuff
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 18:44 BingoBoingo: In new interesting to asciilifeform mod6 and other Pizarro folks, Uruguay is about to roll out a new type of corporate structure. Sociedad de Acción Simplificadas, going to look into it and see if it is at all interesting.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1863069 << seems likelty one of those right wing "pay low tax get economy going" things. sometimes they're used as bait and switch by govt.
asciilifeform: uses a framework such as Gtk+ or Qt or any of the module-based APIs such as NSS, PAM, ... forget about about POSIX locking. If you care about portability, don't use file locking.' etc
asciilifeform: '...If you want to lock a file in $HOME, forget about it as $HOME might be NFS and locks generally are not reliable there. The same applies to every other file system that might be shared across the network. If the file you want to lock is accessible to more than your own user (i.e. an access mode > 0700), forget about locking, it would allow others to block your application indefinitely. If your program is non-trivial or threaded or
asciilifeform: bvt: i find it mind-boggling that there is not a standard , portable , machine-wide locking mechanism. but apparently this is so.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 14:00 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1862785 << a working 'atomic' create-or-fail-if-exists by definition excludes this scenario. linux claims to offer one, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-11#1860739 , but i've nfi yet whether it worx as printed on the crate
bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1862867 -- i'd bet this is file-system- and linux-version-specific. at least in the NFS case lack of support for some versions is explicitly advertised.
bvt: the System/GNAT.OS_Lib find is interesting, i have missed it.
bvt: ave1, can you expand on getting rid of string allocations? I see a way to get rid of it for Mode, but not for the Path argument. i can move its c-string from heap to stack, but that would be it. anyhow, i will revise this aspect.
bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1862638 -- i agree that this solution is not that great. however, other alternatives have problems of their own.
bvt: btw, now vpatch.adb does not require Interfaces.C/Int.C.Strings for anything, they will go away in the revised vpatch.
BingoBoingo: bvt: I think when he made that comment he confused you with the other promising newcomer
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 01:53 phf: oh i guess i see why that would be tricky, because of the specialization. i don't know enough ada yet to know how to fix that... perhaps just renaming it to Temporary_File is sufficient
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 01:42 phf: bvt: your patch has "Binary files..." at the very end of it. i assume it wasn't made with vdiff
bvt: should set everything up till the end of the week. i didn't rent a rk; but already tested pressing mp-wp locally.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 03:02 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862295 << bootstrapping problem, he has to get vtools compiled to press mp-wp to install it on the rk he already bought.
bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1862641 -- mircea_popescu, diana_coman, i'm in the process of getting some btc currently, after that will get pizarro shared hosting.
BingoBoingo: Found out it is a thing just now through an invitation to be fed breakfast at an event discussing the thing.
BingoBoingo: In new interesting to asciilifeform mod6 and other Pizarro folks, Uruguay is about to roll out a new type of corporate structure. Sociedad de Acción Simplificadas, going to look into it and see if it is at all interesting.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> re structure -- they're rolling out ipnoje-style cars, that brick if they dun get keepalive from server << These have been a thing in the US for a while with the pay by week specialist dealer/lenders
asciilifeform: cheaper 'repo', the idea
asciilifeform: re structure -- they're rolling out ipnoje-style cars, that brick if they dun get keepalive from server
asciilifeform: always pictured it as a usa thing, where they have extensive structure for beating the money out of idjits who default
mircea_popescu: it'll be the lulz of all time, once THIS groupon goes the way of the other, and all these tards are left paying the loans. will paraguay invade us to extract reparatios for its scaqmmed citizenry ?
mircea_popescu: so uber can pretend it has a power and influence other people are paying for.
mircea_popescu: kinda how xtianity was built, too. mary magdalene bigger deal than the other mary whore.
mircea_popescu: the sort of imbecile moron who http://trilema.com/2017/the-day-of-failure-trilemma/#selection-403.0-407.140 can always be hit for a small bill for "the hope" that "saviour".
asciilifeform: twist : ( at least in usa ) they demand that the car be no older than 3y. and given as typical cabbie is not particularly creditworthy, they give the chump '0% until missed payment' loans to buy'em
mircea_popescu: this rarely works, but the fact that it works at all...
mircea_popescu: so they get stuck in traffic, and she tries on her best 12yo moves, with the eyelids and shit, and figures out how to tell him later she's got a 2yo in tow, notwithstanding she's barely 20something.
mircea_popescu: and in the orclands, its utility is 100% as a dating site, "hey girly [working for "corporation" aka call center, nursing batshit insane delusions as to how you're a sorta hilary and anyone gives a shit about what yo ufished out of your belly button] : would you rather walk, or would you rather save and occasionally ask for a hot young boy who owns his own car take a half hour look at you ?
asciilifeform: ( and they've put in a sort of unofficial gamble component, often enuff the car will have no one but 1 )
asciilifeform: btw on usa end, they've turned into a kind of ~bus~ service, client pays 3-4x less if he is willing to sit in a car fulla randos (which naturally makes loops , to put'em in the correct places)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as far as i know, item exists 100% as orcistan theft, because the local morons will pay the usg corp a chunk of their local income.
mircea_popescu: so no, nobody in right mind would ~advertise~ they're faggots.
asciilifeform: rright but it's a pantsuit production, this thing. i had nfi that they had 'lite' variant for orcs
mircea_popescu: used the app ?
asciilifeform: interesting, possibly what mircea_popescu saw wasn't even an actual 'uber' cabbie, but just some d00d with the sticker for no reason
mircea_popescu: here, they just take 20% of their revenue and send it to washington so washington can pretend like it's a place.
asciilifeform: in usa, uber client is a pnoje proggy, and demands CC #; to be 'cabbie', requires acct and linked bank thing, and they file 'form 1040' for tax db
asciilifeform: maybe in orcistans ? how does this work, they have physical offices ?
asciilifeform: so moneys move usgistically, rather than 'terroristically'
asciilifeform: uber worx exactly like the 'reliable' wu -- they force chump to register bank acct etc
mircea_popescu: ie, usg undergoing exact same process argentina was, back when old whore still thought she can be president whether i say ok or not.
mircea_popescu: also -- SOMEHOW -- uber doesn't have bingoboingo's problem. for THEM it is a-ok to terrorist money all over the world.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 23:36 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it meanwhile dawned on me. why the fuck would wu even be part of this conversation.
mircea_popescu: just, they don't pay it via WU, as per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-12#1861440 item.
mircea_popescu: nah, whole fuckling point is that cab services work well in orclands, and the orcs pay tax already.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform uber is rather "we'll produce an alt-frontend dating site for orclands, where the morons will pay usg to use it". very much mercantilism desperation on usg.blue part.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: usg is on an 'embrace & extend' tack. not simply the pot thing, either -- consider, 'uber', 'airbnb', etc through lens of 'attempts to make unemployed zeks, driven into piecework, to document income & pay tax'
BingoBoingo: But yes, if Trump legalizes weed at the federal level which he appears to be moving towards... it will be for very good reason.
BingoBoingo: Well, for the most part pot is a marginal thing mostly used by marginal people
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 17:54 mircea_popescu: "In spite of the frequency with which the practice of rolling joints is carried out, skill in rolling remains rare." << this will be the written epitaph on this whole sad world. sorta like Abdulkhakim Ismailov's twin watches the epitaph of previouis reich.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1862995 << And to be clear on this point I am not talking about a lack of artistically inspired one time smoke instruments. I mean they produce joints that are poorly packed, with loose paper, that need substantial babying because they fail to burn consistently (Even when they cheat by bulking up the payload with tobacco to ease rolling)..
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 17:21 mircea_popescu: as i say -- the young hussies already are looking for slavery and abjection, in contrast to their stupid mulas and stramulas. from rotherham to anytown, usa, the 15 yo is saying "please, beat, rape and light me on fire -- anything whatsoever but having to talk with my kinmorons."
mircea_popescu: kinda the same all over the world, http://trilema.com/2017/where-the-fuck-is-everyone/ etc. might have nothing to do with pot and everything to do with http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1500948 / http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859575 evolution.
BingoBoingo: Hey, down here I am watching the Fat Forehead party realize it doesn't have a activist base anymore in real time.
mircea_popescu: "Consumption of marijuana promotes the development and belief in false memories. The social engineering potential for this is tremendous, which is likely why Pantsuit pushes normalizing marijuana consumption. The effect on activism in the previous point is likely why Pantsuit is cautious in actually legalizing cannabis." << check it out, #metoo was really of and by and for and about potheads ?!
mircea_popescu: "In spite of the frequency with which the practice of rolling joints is carried out, skill in rolling remains rare." << this will be the written epitaph on this whole sad world. sorta like Abdulkhakim Ismailov's twin watches the epitaph of previouis reich.
asciilifeform: possibly they do like the wine people ? (i.e. 'x % of grapes from yr n, x % from n-1, ... ' etc )
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine how it'd be consistent then, but anyways.
BingoBoingo: And it's production appears to largely be a subsistence farming thing rather than mega-cartel deal
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in 1980, you'd pop in an entirely random porno vhs and kinda know what you'd get ; and similarily light up and similarily know. << The classic 'pot' pot is still readily available in Uruguay. Pressed, consistent, shelf stable Product of Paraguay is available from most fellows in vests helping people parallel park
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform most kids go by color as the only indication. the more advanced also look for lettering.
BingoBoingo: girl in Argentina, and a couple more weeks back at the hostel...
BingoBoingo: Story time: A kid came to Uruguay from a non-gringo white anglophone country. Regular smoker, he only intended a couple weeks in Uruguay before moving on to explore the rest of the continent. He asked me where to find weed and I told his this is Uruguay, weed will find him when he stops looking for it. 4 days into Uruguay he found pot. Five months later, after having spent nearly 3 months at the same hostel, one and a half with some