punkman: unless they've added some magic
punkman: because now it has no idea what IP the root is
mike_c: oh, nvm. it's there now. weird.
ThickAsThieves: i can tell ya when i visit seeds.therealaltcoin.org it behaves differently now :/
ThickAsThieves: i dont understand either of you
pankkake: you can ask the responsible dns server directly, bypassing ISP caches
mike_c: what should happen is eventually you do a dig -t any therealaltcoin.org and it shows up
ThickAsThieves: so i need to wait the TTL time before checking if this worked right?
mike_c: thanks guys. TaT and I were not getting closer to the goal :)
punkman: which is what therealaltcoin has
punkman: maybe the hosting account menu has something about dns?
punkman: no if you use them it says "Transfer to web host"
ThickAsThieves: even if you use them
ThickAsThieves: it's always there, but yeah
punkman: do you see a link on the menu that says "Transfer DNS Back to Us"?
ThickAsThieves: in that screenshot, do i just put this custom IP in the ns1 and ns2 boxes and add that?
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
mike_c: but only for seeds.therealaltco.org
punkman: well youi need to run a nameserver then
punkman: there
ThickAsThieves: more specifically, where the fuck Namecheap hides such setting
mike_c: we are trying to put a NS record in therealaltcoin.org that sets the nameserver for seeds.therealaltcoin.org
ThickAsThieves: i cant find "All Host Records" like the support doc says
punkman: you are on the wrong page
mike_c: cuz that's for the root domain
mike_c: well, you were in the nameserver section
assbot: Which record type option should I choose for the information Im about to enter?(DNS Questions) Namecheap.com Knowledgebase
mike_c: ThickAsThieves: https://www.namecheap.com/support/knowledgebase/article.aspx/579/46/which-record-type-option-should-i-choose-for-the-information-im-about-to-enter
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
ThickAsThieves: cool, yeah you probably want more versatile stuff then, like a good mixing board
rithm: because i'm still building the studio (construction) mostly i do live stuff
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ThickAsThieves: not sure what stage youre at, but for me the best jump in quality was getting that ADDA, a decent tube mic, and a high-quality mic pre
rithm: well i haven't decided on the studio setup you can help me
ThickAsThieves: rithmblue is audio production? is there samples somewhere? i just see live vids
ThickAsThieves: here's the original link fwiw https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AieQiVL6xc-1dHE5anhTSGotYUVIMmR5cERIYU5BOVE&output=html
rithm: the link it takes you to is sanitixed
kakobrekla: benkay its not in the mpex api output
ThickAsThieves: not much confidence there
jurov: the 3rd, you mean. first one was phuctor
ThickAsThieves: when the heck is cardano coming out, i already wanna know what the 2nd product will be
ThickAsThieves: satanic, as in, the rng is more like png?
jurov: ThickAsThieves I already pestered asciilifeform with that mycelium gizmo, he said it's some atmel satanic stuff, i then saw it opened and it was true
BingoBoingo: Oh, I tagged the wrong autocomplete.
benkay: i do wonder about the ur-account on mpex
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: It's a small offering? Or maybe people want shares FIRST!!!
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ThickAsThieves: zoinky are you in the WoT?
ThickAsThieves: i thought s.wol was .00003, yet the asks are .000035 and up
ThickAsThieves: yep, it took longer than i thought to get to 560, one more little leg down and then sideways with a slight incline til the auction (maybe)
ThickAsThieves: there's a few guys trying to be normal
zoinky: maybe if i saw the avatar haha
zoinky: don't recall the name on TV TBH, i know you as TAT from here and forums
ThickAsThieves: "BitAngels, the angel investment group which was helping out with the crowdsale, expected mastercoins to comprise no more than 25% of the overall investment. Instead, Lambert explained, they ended up making up roughly half of the investment total."
ThickAsThieves: "All you do is plug it into a printer's USB port, and the device uses specialized hardware to create a random number with 256-bits of entropy."
ThickAsThieves: could work out this round for people, since the money may have been spent when BTC was worth %800+
davout: ThickAsThieves: yeah, when i take the chart of currently available hardware and do the math against their cost (disregarding $/kwh) $1mn/PH is the lowest i get
ThickAsThieves: the cut should be almost over...
ThickAsThieves: altough the costs to set that much gear up and run it for a bit would surely add up fast
davout: ThickAsThieves: i see, i'm not really trying to be very precise here, just a ballpark estimate for the recent ~47PH/s increase
ThickAsThieves: 1PH would surely be cheaper if you contacted them to make arrangements
davout: closest i can think of is take the current best rig that actually sells and use that as basis
davout: still wondering how i could get the closest to reality when calculating how much it'd cost to bring an extra PH/s to the network
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davout: thanks, i want to do a rough back of the envelope estimate of what kind of investment the recent diff increases imply
davout: or to state the question a bit differently, what's the current market price of mining power?
xmj: I wonder, how do you heat the truck version.
punkman: xmj, dunno maybe 10-20kg in small portable mixer, more if you get the truck version :P
punkman: fun tip: if you have a shitload of octopus, cement mixer is a good way to tenderize them
mircea_popescu: mkay, in sum : this problem is an artefact of using butter knife to mix concrete rather than any problem of the concrete.
mircea_popescu: (not that you couldn't call getdents by yourself bypassing the 16kb buffer or whatever fucktarded limit readdir does)
punkman: dunno what that is, but it's reading all the entries in a dir that's slow
mircea_popescu: unless the drive is shitty and unraided that shouldn't really happen. besides, you shouldn't have the kernel volume shared with userspace anyway.
benkay: apropos of the bash bombs discussed earlier, my favorite part about computanium is how ls'ing in a directory with lots of things will cripple a server
benkay: mircea_popescu: mebbe later - in the meantime i'm enjoying the luxury of going to sleep at midnightish
BingoBoingo: OMG they left already!!!
punkman: BingoBoingo: OMG No pool hoppers. << actually there's an extra TH on coinminer
mircea_popescu: <bitcoinpete> that'd definitely cut down on the spammy number of the wc/other sport bets << yeah.
punkman: "regarding décolletés (in the US "cleavage"): "the second from the top button may be opened." And skirts may be no shorter than 5-10 cm above the knees"
bitcoinpete: if mp had created a rolland garros bet for every single player + halep it would've been the same problem
bitcoinpete: i like the 2btc min bet
bitcoinpete: so the world cup experiment was fruitful, if costly
mircea_popescu: there you go pankkake, you beat feedly
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Keep the colors!
mircea_popescu: i need someone to herd the naked girls for bitcoin subreddit for me
bitcoinpete: titcoins thinks there's a market for butts AND tits
bitcoinpete: not that btcjam had any reputation to speak of here, just that the word is getting out
Mats_cd03: TheNewDeal: no. nanking was p much like any other like pillaging, just with better records
mike_c: it's the royal color!
mircea_popescu: Vexual> neato, I like how there isn't an eplilepsy warning << lmao
gribble: Error: That's all, there is no more.
mike_c: live on the edge
Vexual: neato, I like how there isn't an eplilepsy warning
TheNewDeal: most definitely. I think it will appeal to the btc crowd
TheNewDeal: just confused me with the name Game of Week, thought there might be a totally different game next week
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
mircea_popescu: <TheNewDeal> seems like a very advanced way to... lose money << bout 1%.
mike_c: home page on the left is a link to next week's game
mike_c: Game of the Week restarts every 1000 blocks
TheNewDeal: I'm wondering if the Game of Life just restarts every "week", or if some other cellular automata game will replace it
TheNewDeal: I'm not worried about the price of ATC, already checked up on that
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: says they plugged a journalist
mircea_popescu: so these kids had a sort of fight club ?
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal indeed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not only! they have a net stream radio!
mike_c: there's free money in every GoW.
TheNewDeal: looking for previous games though, can't find them
mircea_popescu: well people can just pm you. with the voice rules, it';s unlikely anyone can bother anything
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mthreat: ah yeah. "tumblr.com" matches 7 because those 7 have "/tumblr_xyz" in the url, which gets tokenized so it has the token "tumblr"
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
mircea_popescu: i think there's some sort of funk in url tokenization maybe
mthreat: the former is not indexed yet
mircea_popescu: mthreat why does neither http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tumblr.com nor http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tumblr match http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2014#731499 even though the former matches http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-06-2014#713703 (and how come they don't both match that).
TheNewDeal: On a slightly different topic. Was the Nanking massacre related to the Treaty of Versailles ? Was talking about the Nanking massacre just the other day at work with someone, he was talking about the Nazis being involved, and I didn't realize Germany had given Japan some land in China a couple decades before
TheNewDeal: played too much with the price bets when I started and just ended up making little for risking lots
TheNewDeal: I'm trying to get away from the risky bets myself
TheNewDeal: well don't they also have to perform to spec?
cazalla: i'm hoping a win on the knc bet but expect to lose given criteria even though they've begun shipping
TheNewDeal: was quite sure that no larger bets would come on the same side. Made sure that the outcome was a rare event, and felt very confident in betting
TheNewDeal: but I knew what the return would be. I also looked at the return for people who might have a much larger BTC stake than myself
TheNewDeal: I bet *very* late in the game
TheNewDeal: I'm the type of person that stays away from everything at the casino that designed to make you lose on purpose, and heads straight to the poker tables
TheNewDeal: well I played basketball and up until 8th grade and wasn't good enough to make it on the freshman team
cazalla: TheNewDeal: do you bet to have some fun with it type shit or are you the sorta guy that knows the bounce you get off different sort of wood on basketball courts?
TheNewDeal: well not super high, but the winners made like 3X payout.
TheNewDeal: latest urge to impulse bet is the FHM bet. Last year's sum was so high!
TheNewDeal: should have made a bet that was "bitbet will allow another negative bet"
mircea_popescu: there, about a year ago
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mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal well, it's the mod's job. they normally do a good job of it, but not always.
cazalla: betting mid game of 3rd match is still a risk though if it's an hour until the block is confirmed, that's the other reason i avoid mid game bets
mircea_popescu: there was
TheNewDeal: pretty disappointed that I wasn't the winner of the bitbet adjudicating record with my bitcon price above $525 in may bet. seems like there was a little bit of leniency with this sports bets with the date adjustments
mircea_popescu: the crack that separates limb from limb
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TheNewDeal: oooh the World cup controversey
[]bot: Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Portugal will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/932/ Odds: 9(Y):91(N) by coin, 28(Y):72(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.63982192 BTC. Current weight: 16,591.
mircea_popescu: dun worry, this is just to give them a false sense of security.
cazalla: bitcoinpete: fwiw, i was going to bet on the same one but didn't as i thought it was borderline and likely to be refunded
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mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust TheNewDeal
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mircea_popescu: mike_c people interested in mysteries will now go into the logs to see when i first made certain unsubstantiated claims and then apply engineering timeframes to the window ellapsed.
mircea_popescu: people realising they're getting left out.
mike_c: what. the. fuck.
mike_c: knc, relatively speaking, is on the ball. last week they shipped (300 x 3) = 900 TH/s, and a similar amount over the next week.
mircea_popescu: cedivad: Barber claimed that they were payments to suppliers, but he has still to prove that. << that'd be unlikely. depends a lot of the jurisdiction and everything, but in general speaking the manager can just say "we have no more money" and that's that. he doesn't have to prove how he spent it. you may prove he misspent it and then it could escalate to fraud, but in general, in a bankruptcy, a manager is not going t
mircea_popescu: but if it makes you feel any better, they were never populat here. not that ct ever was.
mircea_popescu: cedivad: so, hashfast got 20 millions in and they were able to destroy all of that value. << listing what, a d. ?
mircea_popescu: mike_c: ah, because it lies. this makes sense. << it flushes the 100 pre-generated addies.
mircea_popescu: moiety: hmm docking... my eyes get wider every day in here.... :] <<< i wouldn't worry while it's just the eyes.
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03:mircea_popescu: and the devices in existence? what about them? << burn them.
mthreat: it's not really necessary.. the parsing is pretty easy using JSoup
kakobrekla: still daily , just w/o the html stuff
kakobrekla: but aside that, i can make you ?json to parse the stuff from logs if you want
kakobrekla: no i dun run gribble, assbot will take care of this - but, my thought was just to make assbot build the url query for you on the chan, no json needed
mthreat: kakobrekla: add &output=json for json. I can change the JSON output if you like, for gribble (do you run gribble?)
cedivad: Barber claimed that they were payments to suppliers, but he has still to prove that.
cedivad: yes, there are many addresses we know of that holded our BTC payments since August/September
cedivad: nah, that was the tip of the iceberg. And ars is good, but not good enought. it's difficult for us to understand what is really going on, a jurnalist cannot do miracles
cedivad: they basically decided to destroy the company in December when they saw that they would have had huge lawsuits against them due to their lies
jurov: The involuntary bankruptcy filing came days after HashFast’s CEO told Ars that his company was “as poor as church mice.” Prior to that, the company fired half of its staff and declared “we’re not scammers.”
cedivad: they must have won something
cedivad: I'm looking at the filing right now.
cedivad: so, hashfast got 20 millions in and they were able to destroy all of that value.
fluffypony: thestringpuller!!!!!!!1111oneoneoneonetyone
fluffypony: goat was going to come to the conference?
mike_c: either previous backup could send those coins or it couldn't. i dun get it.
assbot: China Starts Outsourcing From ... the US - Slashdot
Apocalyptic: I see, missed the news
mike_c: they shut down
Mats_cd03: sum of this talk: embedded devices r fucked, forever, but you can reduce the attack surface by installing openwrt.
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mircea_popescu: benkay "and if you don't, they dock ya"
benkay: there is a whole internet of examples...
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benkay: i had to dig up a demonstration of docking for that one to make sense to the lady
mircea_popescu: jurov actually if it ever gets "fixed" i guess asciilifeform's point about how linux goes to shit like everything goes to shit under the pressurte of popularity wil lbe quite breathtakingly proven
pankkake: re http://38.media.tumblr.com/6c8929d97e29476c98fe514cbd1c866d/tumblr_mj7ikq5jYs1ryigg2o1_500.jpg - that's the only kind of panties that should be allowed
benkay: amusingly, the one who won't ride his bike naked
Mats_cd03: im in the same room as bruce schneier right now
benkay: turns out it was another neighbor's girl, my ins broker
benkay: i thought a neighbor was leaving for the morning, and ran outside in my underoos to return a key
assbot: Wanna know the pwd for the Brasil world cup security center WiFi nw? It's on the whiteboard ;-) /hashtag/fail?src=hash http://t.co/XD6ujqk5nq
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: example of this machine: http://www.notanon.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/gentoo_libretto.jpg << the circular object underneath 'intel' sticker is the mouse. two buttons on the back of lid.
mircea_popescu: not much either way.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re: your x11 wm post: the funny thing is, i originally grew fond of 'ratpoison' wm precisely because, years ago, as student, i used an uncommonly small laptop.
jurov: we migrated the domain
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform their temerity runs in the fambly it seems. they now have the temerity to fight china over sea oil.
jurov is sad nobody seemed to notice the "sufficiently spart compilers" snark
asciilifeform remembers one of the less-discussed reasons for vietnam war - the buggers had the temerity to build semiconductor plants
mircea_popescu: denying chips is pretty much the best way to keep people doing service "jobs".
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo> jurov: It's not just that there are FPGAs though, but a certain kind... << it's actually likely to see a proper war around this.
BingoBoingo: I'm not thinking backyard, I'm thinking whoever Avalon et al hired to do their baking.
asciilifeform: 'can't get to the moon by piling up chairs'
asciilifeform: it may very well be possible to produce 'backyard cpu,' but refinement of traditional fabrication methods won't get you there
BingoBoingo: Well, I've reprocess aluminum there before.
asciilifeform: state of the art in, e.g. steel production, hasn't changed in decades
BingoBoingo: At some point the price of fabbing "state of the art" will go down, simply because "state of the art" hits a wall.
asciilifeform: (reasoning being, were they to open the specs, anyone could cut open the libs and never pay the ransom)
asciilifeform: both of the major (well, only ones worth mentioning) fpga vendors make most of their profit from renting out license to use their libraries (ethernet controller, soft cpu cores, etc.) and not from hardware. hence the tightly closed architectures.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if it's a 'xilinx' or 'altera' - you're stuck with the vendor's closed turd.
BingoBoingo: jurov: It's not just that there are FPGAs though, but a certain kind...
BingoBoingo: 10-20 years out will be interesting in any scenario simply because of how will people react to bumping against Moore's law at the least.
BingoBoingo: The HP stuff seems interesting at least for what can be done with used stuff 10 years after release.
asciilifeform: neither is particularly interesting, imho. both intend to run the same idiot stack forever.
BingoBoingo: Is it sad that I find the HP "the machine" announcement more encouraging than the Russian arm one?
asciilifeform: re: russian 'arm' cpu hype << same sad story as 'elbrus' company. the latter started out as a somewhat original superscalar design, ended up a cheap pentium clone. they succumbed to the temptation of the ussr starting in '70s - clone common cpu, run l33t w4r3z.
mircea_popescu: mike_c they're going to be on a winning team by moving to one that can pay,
jurov: btw lead pipes aren't the problem, water tends to deposit minerals to the sides that limit lead poisoning