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mircea_popescu: <decimation> mircea: the chance of a random integer from 1 to x being prime is about 1/ln(x) << you just use the entropy to seed, much like pgp does. you don't actually roll the prime itself.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: But catching slaves. I spared megaton the bomb, because it deserves worse...
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mircea_popescu: <benkay> i will bring ruination on all social everythings <<hence my comment re partially implemented wots and their fundamental unsustainability.
benkay: fucker's never going to fly, but it's a grand thing to build nevertheless
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benkay: put a nice HD camera in there and you might capture...*some* entropy.
benkay: that's the biggest damn boggle box ever!
decimation: in the limit you are not going to move a m^3 of dice at all
decimation: thinking about this last night, there's a limit to the number of dice you can roll simultaneously
decimation: they have very sharp edges and balanced numeral indicators
decimation: but I'm sure they 'wear' over time
decimation: mircea: the chance of a random integer from 1 to x being prime is about 1/ln(x)
moiety: he took cwo ogff the shelves himself
BingoBoingo: It's all the plot left room for...
moiety: BB i have heard of one strangelove film...something to do with a bomb. how many are there?
BingoBoingo: It's all the wise general ever drank.
moiety: benkay: i cant see someone with you being rude, and neither is he, so problem being?
benkay: we also split 2 bottles of prosecco to celebrate the new digs.
moiety: no wait im usually the platform being griefed!
benkay: griefing users is boring. grief the platform.
benkay: why is griefing the platform not a thing?
mircea_popescu: by the time every human is surrounded by 100s of bots, it's dead.
benkay: <mircea_popescu> not that it'd be so hard to repurpose a botnet for utterly destroying twitter. // now there's a notion
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moiety: also... gribble works in pm..cus.. other folk like to talk too sometimes n all that :]
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BingoBoingo: moiety: Blockchain as a collection of lucite bocks with the data engraved. Machine spits a new one out each time a new one is confirmed
Rawted: whats the one for btc addy lo. been a while...
moiety: Rawted: did you decrypt the thing given to you?
Rawted: the fuck
moiety: BingoBoingo: HOW about the paperweitghts lit up though? as per transaction or confirmation?
BingoBoingo: Huh, well... Imma trying to remember what sort of lucite blocks I'd invented the idea of then...
BingoBoingo: -1 to Bitcoin signature's for shit other than tx signing
mircea_popescu: you go ;;eauth rawted then ;;everify
Rawted: in the new core distro
BingoBoingo: moiety: Because Freenode is always the weakest link
BingoBoingo: moiety: This is why I hang out with my brother's dog occasionally. So I don't have to do the heavy lifting.
Rawted: someone's nick squatting on my nick. its been long enough that i havent logged into otc that the enfore wore off
moiety: BB but you have to. so like to conferences we can send you and the dog.. like..: yes this is dog... bingoboino's dog so Fuuuuuuuuuuuu - kinda thing
BingoBoingo: Hello Rawted, what brings you around these parts?
benkay: "cost control on which <our client>, the least technical stakeholder relied in extremis"
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moiety: expanding the boingo family na,e* (sorry elvis on keyboard)
moiety: i think that wiull be the biggest thing for her artifexd ... but she will manage and so will you :] and the cuddles after twill prove it :D
artifexd: It'll be the first time she's ever been away from me for more than an hour since she was 8 weeks old.
artifexd: I'm going to Ecuador for a week so I just dropped her off with our trainer to kennel her. I'm feeling a little... I don't know. But she's on my mind. Hence the discussion.
benkay: this group of hipsters plays dodgeball in the tennis courts you can see behind me in that video every monday, and frequently leave deflated dogeballs behind. rubber sacks the miniature dragon in question would rather rip to shreds than chase.
artifexd: Is your dog 80 lbs in the video?
artifexd: Oh, the ball has a 100 punctures in it, but it is still her favorite.
benkay: lol i can't give g a soccer ball - he'd rather destroy it than anything else.
artifexd: benkay: Did he give it back to you? My dog likes to run around with the ball (a green soccer ball) for a while before she brings it back.
moiety: BB this makes me so sad though, cus they are just more open to fighing breeding?
artifexd: Different strokes for different folks. My wife feels the same way. She deals with it though.
moiety: @disqualifications: Any dog that attempts to bite the judge.<< lololololololol
BingoBoingo: moiety: I was going for a walk at about 2 in the morning and some stranger yells "Is this your dog". The dog in question is a brown bull mastiff puppy about 24 inches tall at the withers. Dude has it leashed to his belt says it ran in front of his truck....
cazalla: then again, i eat my pets
cazalla: i don't know how anyone can have animals in their house tbh
artifexd: Look at the bottom of that link. Under disqualifications, "White dogs"
moiety: artifexd: the one i grew up with was incredibly nervous. perfect show lines aside from the fear so we got her as a pet. most wonderful creature
artifexd: I have no idea. They have some crazy ideas.
moiety: BB... i disappoint at the @almost@
artifexd: Can you believe that the AKC considers a white GSD a defect?
moiety: saw a gentleman out other day with 5 GSDs. all differing colourings. must have been a breeder
artifexd: GSD's are the best dogs
moiety: ive been trying to track how much this stuff would take. they need a dayfund or an undocumented skill
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kakobrekla: actually that is the truth
mircea_popescu: mike_c kakobrekla was making a fucking machine then got carried away
kakobrekla: i had some connections to people with the big machines to machine it for me
asciilifeform: if you go between (x, y) and (x', y') 10,000 times, what's the cumulative error ?
kakobrekla: the ball screw is 4mm iirc
kakobrekla: hm i dont have that measured but the step is way smaller
kakobrekla: the Z axis should have something like 25cm of travel
kakobrekla: asciilifeform i cant find more recent photos but basically x and y are functional, z is not finished yet but i have the materials. http://imgur.com/a/BuNYE
BingoBoingo: moiety: What if they know?
moiety: phgod someeone please tell me im not still the only one on earth
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: someone should tell orlov who invented surgical forceps, and what they were originally for
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: why? you have an example of the item i posted ad for ?
moiety: well.. ok not typewriter... im just unsure what they called those things
moiety: asciilifeform: please keep the typewriter til i can buy it XD
mike_c: !up gabriel_laddel you should get in the wot
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mircea_popescu is now curious what the galz be up to.
moiety: princessnell: i'm insignificant where im from.but if we can ever work together, we should :D
mike_c: well, he either sold or gave up
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asciilifeform shopping for object that is gathering dust in many a garage, but would cost 10x the offered price if bought new from reputable vendor. see logs, 'golden toilet.'
moiety: mike_c: the day you offer me a manul instead of a unicorn as national animal.. i'm in!
BingoBoingo remembers last order getting offers to buy the half bitcoin I put up for sale. Reminded parties I wanted to sell half a bitcoin for $5000 then they asked if I could do market minus X%. Said Fuck you $6000 nao.
princessnell: moiety no, i think this is pretty specific to american narcissists with girl-who-accepts-bitcoin-the-internet-syndrome.
moiety: i went to otc once to tell then i was really me asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: we should have a groan-off. this vs the taleb vid.
moiety just watched the bitcoingirl vid
BingoBoingo: That was Tillikum's 4th confirmed kill of the revolution
princessnell: i am sorry to be the bearer of bad kitsch, but: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEthXBHsEac
BingoBoingo: I'm more wondering if Tillikum can have fluff and still surface to breathe seeing that Tillikum is Sea World's resident maneater
moiety: can tillikum really have the fluff and still retain it'[s social standing?
moiety: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand now you can calculate why im support staff rather than a forerunner....
moiety: they are way ahead of you BB
BingoBoingo: Well, they don't yet...
moiety: BB, horses are bigger and they dont eat us....
BingoBoingo: mike_c: I think giant orange arrows on both sides of the histogram would prolly be least obstructing
mike_c: btw, jurov, that mid-line on the history chart what you had in mind?
mike_c: recommended strategy: which ever way the house is leaning on the pre-game bets, go the other way.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: If ther is anything to learn from the Atc games, bomb sniping is going to be "a thing"
mike_c: i notice death sniped the last paid bomb :)
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: As you ease yourself into unixy environments consider this advice if you decide to run a full desktop environment http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/24/choosing-a-linux-desktop-environment-for-newbs-and-n00bs/
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you'd have to diddle the NIC directly, i suspect, but what does that matter.
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asciilifeform: ;;google something that shoots and a bus ticket there
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah, swing the thing as hard as you like and on a forgiving surface it has a maximum impact force.
asciilifeform: 'something that shoots and a bus ticker there' >> magical formula! described what i suspect every adult male alive really wants
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 wisdom comes to they who get burned :)
mircea_popescu: as the situation is reversed however... no amount of derpage can possibly help.
mircea_popescu: if teh muricans really just wanted "something that shoots and a bus ticker there", i'd have been really worried about the afghanistani.
mircea_popescu: but anyway : the eventual winner doesn't quite have the same needs from his equipment as the eventual loser does.
mircea_popescu: the only problem is... well... in his 38 years of 'being a dom" so far, he's had a slave for a total of 3 years, if you add it all up.
Duffer1: bingoboingo they never got anything, just control of my email, new comp parts get here thursday and friday
mircea_popescu: some other dood somewhere has this truely ellaborate and complex punishment station, cost him 18`000 dollars
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to put this in a better perspective : i do not have dedicated tools to discipline my slaves. i use whatever i feel like using at the time, or nothing at all. i've used vacuum cleanning tubes, wire hangers, braided electric cord, belts, chunks of wook, rolled up newspaper, whatever. cooking spatulas.
mircea_popescu: and the latin influence comes from the veterans that settled there, much like a us army guy retiring to vietnam
mircea_popescu: germania and gaul are still fucking germanic, notwithstanding all the genocides cesar & co drove there.
mircea_popescu: "didn't care enough to use them"
asciilifeform: greek fire << interestingly, i recall that opponents captured siphons, couldn't figure out how to work them, threw them out
mircea_popescu: think of the young russki kids and their street culture. who is going to be respected who doesn't know to take a punch ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform debatable which is the chain of causality. imo it's just because they promote a wrong approach to fighting.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mostly because they tend to get discovered close to an empire's peak complexity (i.e. collapse prelude)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the winner wins specifically because doesn't care about scathing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a population heavy on the young is not more stupid, it's more strippers.
mircea_popescu: basically nuclear weapons, as well as tomahawks, aircraft carriers and so on are further elements in a class of weapons inaugurated by the byzantines, with their greek fire :
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: except in extreme cases (fissiles concentrating up the foodchain, zapping anything more interesting than a slime mold) what you get is precisely 'more stupid' - that is, a population heavy on the young.
mircea_popescu: some of the weak and shitty die, life expectancy a little shorter ?
mircea_popescu: what inconvenience exactly ? suppose the current level of radiation in japan becomes worldwide.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: For sure. I imagine at somepoint biotech polution may fit the bill, but we are talking about the difference between getting a straight flush and a royal flush in a game of Blackjack.
mircea_popescu: but sure, as the ice moves around we may get to various mineral riches in siberia, canda etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect that orlov's personal wank fantasies have clouded his mind. e.g., he proclaimed, gleefully, that the uninhabitable wastelands of russia will become arable land due to warmocalypse, and the era of anglo-yoke will give way to a russian mega-hegemony
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asciilifeform: his 'collapse' writings are excellent in many ways, but one gets an inescapable feeling that the 'doctor' is not really interested in curing the 'patient.' instead, he would like to see the patient - and his children, and his children's children - croak asap.
mircea_popescu: that's how all the "worse than before" stories work.
mircea_popescu: kinda naive approach. there's nothing worse than winning with the wrong people for the wrong reasons.
asciilifeform: i'm not even 100% convinced that orlov actually believes in anthropogenic climatocalypse. what is more or less certain is that he wants industrial civilization off the gameboard, asap. and is willing to support just about any ideology which promises to help the process along.
mircea_popescu: This is why every successful community I've looked at knows how to exclude (shun, expel) people. Every successful community jealously safeguards its separateness from the surrounding society. This is critical to their survival and for achieving much better outcomes for their members than the surrounding society.
mircea_popescu: it's still not germane to the discussion.
mircea_popescu: fuck him. the pretense that liars & scammers, which is without exception anyone who fucking "moderates" are somehow ethically superior to actual people is morally offensive.
mircea_popescu: "Her blog's comments section is a sort of Land of the Lost: people who inhabit the comments sections of unmoderated blogs, and who are perpetually miffed that no half-decent blog will post their comments."
mircea_popescu: what happened to "who the fuck even cares" already.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what the fuck is going on in this guy's head, engaging in a debate on these terms ?
mircea_popescu: "Gail insinuates that Albert Bates is an environmentalist hypocrite because he flies a lot. Albert does travel a lot but goes to great personal effort to physically mitigate carbon from his travel footprint, and this is obvious from even a cursory glance at his website. Overall, he is very much carbon-negative, while Gail goes on aimless drives through the countryside in her gigantic, gas-
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moiety: not if i can help it. i love the sex weeks flat
kakobrekla: oh you on the move again?
moiety: i need it! lol i dont even care about the damn rug. i'm just trying to secure a spo for the rug to stay at.. if that makes sense
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moiety: i dunno, i have this condition where the rug cannot seem to be able to stay underneath me for any length of time.
asciilifeform: 'progressive' algo: 1) infiltrate everything 2) ??? 3) profit 4) begin to get euchred out of the driver's seat 5) wreck it all from spite 6) blame wreckage on вредители.
asciilifeform: these folks will indeed 'upgrade' any computer they're left alone with to 'pink and round.'
mircea_popescu: just like the guy i linked the other day, going nuts over someone having mocked him for wearing a gown, these idiots are so trapped in self-referrentiality that they imagine their shit is somehow universal.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i love the inanity of "carbon footprint", "gini index" and all the rest of the idiocy.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: charlie stross << imagine if cockroaches could write, and one penned an essay on the harm of DDT.
mircea_popescu: sadly the words in question are pretty fucking retarded.
fluffypony: all the best :)
mircea_popescu: it was supposed to be monday. since then, an ever endless list of various issues, which i am taking care of one at a time, at the rate of about six to ten a day.
mircea_popescu: i missed it in the logs too ;/
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I may have missed this in the logs, but what's the timeline on mpex not being kaput?
mircea_popescu: okay, who wants to make a 20 link care package for these ppls ?
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: You don't have to tell houseguests to flush the toilet. I see no reason you would have to tell SB, Taleb, etc. that they should use their brains. (Which is all I got from fluffypony's post)
mike_c: if we can't come up with at least a dozen posts they might find interesting, then we've got other problems.
mircea_popescu: kinda curious what specifically went into the heckling
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: orlov did recently have a harsh 'brush with reality.' he attended a 'collapse conference' run by his usual circle of people, and was heckled off the stage by 'feminist' types
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel principally, they could tell me (and others) just how stupid we are. or at least attempt to.
gabriel_laddel: What roles do you have in mind for them?
gabriel_laddel: So what we've got so far: There needs to be a list of people that we want here, and reasons why. We don't want them here on any terms and since they're VIP, we should have reasons for each of them. Why NS? Why Taleb specifically?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: orlov's boat routinely floats about in the open ocean. but, as i understand, he still relies on an intact usa for supply line, and has a day job of some form there. but - unlike me - he also has russian passport. and occasionally makes use of it. so he's something rather like a free man.
mircea_popescu: <gabriel_laddel> mircea_popescu: Who do you have in mind for this list << to answer the q, actually it's pretty open. anyone anyone cares for.
mircea_popescu: goin further on asciilifeform's very soviet public/private approach, i wonder how many peeps are creaming their pants reading this convo over tor.
asciilifeform: from a gut feeling that it can only lead to the wagen.
asciilifeform: not so much because the inspectors don't already know - but because he recoils at the idea of being the center of 'that kind' of conversation.
mike_c: szabo invented bitcoin, right? we have all the bitcoin. that's got to be interesting.
mike_c: so back to ad copy. "#bitcoin-assets - the richest IRC channel on freenode"
mircea_popescu: for instance, newton died convinced there's a god.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: everyone that matters will be here eventually, the question is when.
pankkake: one thing to know is that the 140 char limit is 140 unicode chars, not 140 bytes
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: would Theil be on it?
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: Who do you have in mind for this list other than NS and Taleb?
mircea_popescu: mike_c these weren't random people.
mircea_popescu: jus' need the clicks.
mircea_popescu: in other words : we don't have a conversion problem before our eyes.
mike_c: naked women are only good for getting someone to listen to the message, they aren't going to attract them on their own.
mike_c: ok, so there needs to be a hook. mp's was gribble. what would hook szabo?
pankkake: is this the "i'm a famous romanian blogger, sell me bitcoins?"
asciilifeform: (i admit that i actually store the parachute metaphor from him)
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asciilifeform: he is fairly certain that we have already been thrown from the skyscraper, and it is far too late to assemble this particular parachute.
pankkake: I had the same experience, I thought bitcoin was only acnee-ridden basement-living 13 year old gamers
mircea_popescu: or the world generally.
asciilifeform: orlov, as i understand, has a very specific reason (i.e. falsifiable hypothesis) that leads to his disinterest.
mircea_popescu: the idea immediately popped that people who are doing this as a matter of course can't be as stupid as i had thought.
mike_c: well then why does orlov end up in that corner?
mircea_popescu: mike_c i went there because commenters on my blog kept pestering me.
mike_c: but why were you there
mircea_popescu: the way i became part of bitcoin in the first place was an hour or so on the ba of the time
mircea_popescu: but whore-out-of-the-blue seems reasonable as an approach, at least because people who manage to react well to women generally react well to new things.
mike_c: if they are not interested in bitcoin it is a non-starter (orlov).
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mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel well, the problem is i have nfi.
mircea_popescu: otherwise you end up in corners like http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-07-2014#758259
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: Okay, so what are these terms exactly?
mircea_popescu: problem here is this : i don't want these people on any random terms. they have to come on our terms to be useful. that's a big part of it, smart people are great, educable smart people are actually useful.