fluffypony: Valve is working on a display that can fit in tiny dimensions - it beams the image straight on to your eyes
fluffypony: the redirected walking stuff is amazing
fluffypony: Vexual: yes definitely, hopefully when it's finally released they'll have the motion sickness stuff fixed etc.
mircea_popescu: maybe i visit after the fall. play fallout in new reno irl or some4thing.
fluffypony: I think he's on the no fly list
Vexual: is he in the new one ?
fluffypony: my parents let me watch all measure of stuff, but Total Recall was bad because they didn't want an 8 year old believing that girls had 3 boobs
Vexual: you woulda been mean then
mircea_popescu: hence conspiracy theorists, forum investors etc.
mircea_popescu: the latter is easier to disprove, but the former easily sticks with people, who then form the spurious belief that everything is systematic
mircea_popescu: which is why the warning came to be on financial products, that "past performance is no indication of future success". the fortune teller makes two spurious claims, one that his arbitrariety is systematic, the other that he has a good historical record.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yes, otherwise known as "that movie that came out when I was 8 or 9 years old that I wasn't allowed to watch because it had a chick with 3 tits in it"
mircea_popescu: jurov generally their whole claim is butressed on such past history.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony the one film schwarzy made that was trying to not be hack and slash ?
Vexual: dies the new one have 3 titites?
jurov: what would expose them to potential problem
jurov: without it, their output could be too predictable
jurov: they certainly seem to need some randomness source
jurov: i daresay otherwise
Vexual: entropy is irrelevantr oto these soothsaysers
jurov: next time i see someone reading from bones or coffee stain imma pester them whether they have tested past output for enough entropy
mircea_popescu: there's no free entropy lunch.
Vexual: but, poison is the thing more than reverse anything
benkay: <decimation> benkay I think you mean bacterial outbreaks. They are already happening: // yup. been drinking all day.
Vexual: commericail airlines flew over iraq and afghanistan for the last 10 years, this might be a proper war
Vexual: sams or the music?
cazalla: had to do em again as taping 2 pencils together to write 2x was too obvious
cazalla: hey Vexual, you know the aussie victims of the MH17 crash, my old primary school teacher was on it
cazalla: mike_c, only thing i dislike about m50s is the soundstage is a little too small for fps gaming, i switch to my speakers when gaming but they aren't gaming headphones to begin with so isn't a big issue
cazalla: you can get the m50s for around $100 on special sometimes
mike_c: cazalla: m50s is cheaper too, just b/c it isn't 'current year model'. sound is supposed to be the same.
cazalla: Vexual, i think aus was first, i still have some of the first abo polymer notes around somewhere
dub: fresh out of glenfiddich but I'm now sipping a glenrothes, good suggestion
cazalla: mike_c, didn't know they had an m50x, i still think i'd go the m50s due to no coil and i would likely lose the cable if i could detach it anyway
dub: they're now playing what looks like GTA5 on his huge ass tv
dub: heh, famous actor lives across road, pulling into my drive earlier I see another actor getting a box of beer out of his car and going inside
mike_c: i find the same with electronic music. di.fm ftw.
dub: the solution is dont work in an office
decimation: indeed, I guess the solution is buy one and sell it on craigslist if it sucks
decimation: if you are going to use them for 8 hours per day in the office, comfort is probably more important than audio quality
decimation: I suspect the average listening would be unable to differentiate most of these headphones in a blind test
Vexual: just buy the 50s you wally
decimation: if you think about it, headphones that block surrounding audio will increase the effective signal/noise ratio delivered to your ears
decimation: because apple has neither the room on their board or the inclination to deliver studio quality audio
decimation: so either headphone is going to have an impedance mismatch
decimation: "The issue as I understand it is that the output impedance of the iPhone 5 is around 3.7 ohms whereas the older phones and iPods are around 5.5 ohms. What is not clear is whether this has been changed by software or by hardware. There are reports that this is an issue in the EU region only. Yet some folk in the USA are also complaining."
mike_c: right, phone can only deliver so much though. but probably enough for either.
decimation: so turn them up, etc
decimation: in a basic sense, impedance mismatch will just lower the effective power delivered to the headphones
decimation: that's going to be more audible than whatever the top frequency in the ultrasonic band is
decimation: according to their spec sheet, the ath m50's only go down to 15 hz, the sennehiser hd280's go down to 8 Hz
mike_c: they actually have velvet ones. http://www.amazon.com/ATH-M50-PADS-Velvet-pads-ATH-M50-headphones/dp/B00GTR2ICQ
decimation: my sennheisers have detachable cables too, although the oem cable was crap - conductors broke after awhile
decimation: if bitcoin goes up another one or two orders of magnitude in dollar value, it will be that much worse for the usg to do anything
decimation: mircea: the usg tends to maximally claim & minimally deliver
mircea_popescu: anyway, one of the comparatively more important btc valuations is, "cost incurred by the usg litigating per btc available to defendant".
Vexual: er that was for the fossilized mass, not dubs divorce
decimation: the layers upon layers of outlandish claims fossilize into a hardened mess - nothing can change the status quo - until the whole thing fractures and breaks in a massive earthquake
mircea_popescu: but anyway. the 2012 peg in the eye of the beast has been holding out splendidly well. they're trying to enact this difference between game currencies and bitcoin, and who knows, maybe it'll work. who;s to say that's the last peg trilema go.
mike_c: this doesn't work quite as well with companies. Lyft is testing this in NYC by blatantly ignoring all their regulations and fighting the state in court.
mircea_popescu: which is why the 100% conviction-through-plea-bargain system is so important.
mircea_popescu: decimation anyway, one doesn't "demonstrate". one claims, and prays nobody calls the bluff.
decimation: if there's an exception for "game" currencies, how does one demonstrate that bitcoin is demonstrably different than a "game" currency?
Vexual: afik aust was the first to deploy polymer banknotes
decimation: if it isn't different, how is it legal for the government to regulate it, state or federal?
decimation: I would like to see the basis of his regulation
mike_c: no way. ben lawsky is going to make america the center of btc bizness
mircea_popescu: so basically the equal size bills are anti-slut.
dub: 3rd world money tends to either be shit quality or stay in circulation long enough to wear any markings off
mircea_popescu: once you get the bitches you have no attention to spare.
mircea_popescu: mike_c makes it quite impossible to get the wrong change.
dub: every note looks the same
mike_c: wait, is that a saying in other countries? your money probably isn't green.
mircea_popescu: mike_c they dun wanna end up with a bunch of terrorist bux
dub: the ear pad rubber is perishing on mine which is quite astounding considering how briefly every other set I've owned has survive
decimation: man the spec sheets for headphones suck
mike_c: fucking amazon needs to take btc already. i bought some fiverr shit the other day with btc and it was so smooth. kind of changed my opinion on using btc for random purchases.
dub: my dj1200 are not that comfortable for long but they are hard to kill
mircea_popescu: mike_c armored battlerats! with a terminal upside the head!
mircea_popescu: specially-constructed oubliettes with a terminal in the lid and a hole for shit in the bottom. <<< ahaha ok.
mircea_popescu: the whole fucking point of code is to make the world more like salem cca 1700 now ;/
mircea_popescu: <decimation> 'don't talk politics around the table (so we can just eat)' -> 'don't question the code(so we can just use it)' << ;/
mike_c: cool. thanks for the suggestions.
mircea_popescu: hanbot no, not as such. the traditional way is for the naive to train their submission, as practiced in say india.
decimation: I'm a sennheiser fanboi, but I'm sure there are other quality headphones out there. examine the spec sheet
decimation: hanbot did you get them custom fit
decimation: I find earbuds and the like extremely uncomfroatble, you aren't going to get better quality than bigass headphones
decimation: do you want to attenuate the surrounding noise?
mike_c: although i agree with the office. my office neighbors annoy me often enough.
Vexual: fuck the offic
mike_c: not so good for the office.
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decimation: benkay I think you mean bacterial outbreaks. They are already happening: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/superbug-stalked-nih-hospital-last-year-killing-six/2012/08/22/5be18b1a-ec66-11e1-9ddc-340d5efb1e9c_story.html
mike_c: any audiophiles around here? my headphones of 15 years finally bit the dust.
decimation: 'don't talk politics around the table (so we can just eat)' -> 'don't question the code(so we can just use it)'
benkay: mircea_popescu: die of "an infection" ? // i prefer the interpretation where the us is always on the verge of horrific viral outbreaks due to decades of antibacterial abuse
decimation: in my undergrad it was assumed knowledge that the indians got together to "strategize" on exam-taking
decimation: and note that Mr. Bharara is also one of them...
mircea_popescu: the solution is to open the whole thing, let the market drive it down to zero, then you won't care someone made fifty bucks or w/e.
mircea_popescu: however, the solution is emphatically NOT to try and prosecute them, because this just drives the specific behaviours enshrined in indian culture that cause the mess.
mircea_popescu: decimation now granted, what the indians are doing in the us finance (btw, have you noticed how few 3rd generation americans are involved in anything worth the mention ?) is nothing short of scandalous
mircea_popescu: benkay so far fighting with the obscurity of free and open source software, which is this endless bundle fifty million lines long that nobody ever read, in spite of you know, how "open source" etc.
mircea_popescu: there's simply no logical way to reconcile the naive want for "fairness" with the practicality of trade.
benkay: <asciilifeform> <hanbot> well exactly. something bound by accidental inhalation on the lower end and hernias on the higher // 6-8 axis arm on an actuated sphere. hernias not an issue, follows one around.
decimation: I guess they ran out of nailguns
mircea_popescu: "That seems to have been the end of the courtship. (Mr. Palecek died from an infection in 2010.)" << the rate at which these people die of preventable causes is ridiculous. seriously, work for supposedly the masters of the country, best paid job, corridors of power, die of "an infection" ?
decimation: "It seems unlikely that he?d have been hired at Galleon were he not Raj Rajaratnam?s brother. Even then, his older brother demoted him several times and he made less money there than some secretaries."
decimation: the rengan rajaratnam dude
artifexd: []bot appears to be down. I'm out of the country. Can't fix it until I get back next week. Sorry folks.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: Theodore Y. Ts'o doesn't comprehend what random means << 'random' is simply a non-scientific qualifier. like 'big'. << looking forward to reading medicine treatises in similar terms. something tells me teh colonies will soon deliver.
mircea_popescu: hanbot:well exactly. something bound by accidental inhalation on the lower end and hernias on the higher << i agree. half meter cube, ideal robot.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: mpex modem << as i recall, reliability of net connection is not an issue at mpex << so far that's the part that works best.
mircea_popescu: this "we got the courts rigged so you gotta say you did what we say you did and then go to siberia" bs only goes as far as it goes.
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mircea_popescu: danke. so preet bharara finally lost a case http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/19/business/Rengan-Rajaratnam-case-shows-limits-of-insider-trading-laws.html << fucking douches. no, it shows the limits of the fucking corrupt us government.
decimation: ie as long as the peasants are fat, dumb & happy they don't give a shit what the remote lords might wish, even if on paper the peasants are in charge
decimation: http://trilema.com/2012/in-re-philosophy-freedom-of-scientific-information/#footnote_0_44044 "You probably know of it through the ulterior, bastardized, middle-class morality of ?no politics at the dinner table?. In practice, people were gathered around the table because they had business together, and the bourgeois do not wish to have higher considerations possibly interfere with their stuffing of the gullet, so they adapted an old
decimation: "they are not free" << I mean that they lack the will to do otherwise, making their "rights" and "freedoms" as useful as toliet graffiti
asciilifeform: the idiots want to 'matter.' the gulag will be forthcoming. no one needs to ask for it.
asciilifeform: 'I dont have to write that I want millions of chickens to be brutally murdered. I can buy all the dead chickens I want at the grocery. When advocating a policy that requires violence for its implementation, it is rarely necessary to advocate the violence. Once people agree to implement the policy, the necessary violence will be forthcoming.'
decimation: according to mircea's theory, the us voter want to emulate their soviet brothers - turn themselves into the third world gulag so that they can be a somebody
decimation: there were plenty of the early ones who cashed in on bezzle money - real estate prices are not cheap around bellingham
asciilifeform: i for one don't give even a basic fuck whether microshit employees can live in mansions - or in specially-constructed oubliettes with a terminal in the lid and a hole for shit in the bottom.
asciilifeform: the real estate mafia would dearly love such a ban - but even they cannot make it happen.
asciilifeform: decimation: if you think a senator - or entire senate - can ban the use of coolies - i've a bridge to sell.
decimation: yeah that's the underlying driver. bezzle -> real estate values -> suddenly life is unaffordable for the peasants
decimation: the irony being that the very many who can make such policy (a senator) is whining about what bill gates says in the newspaper
asciilifeform: decimation: why should microshit (or anybody else) subsidize the real estate racket?
decimation: indeed. and the question of banning the import of said coolies is off the table of course
asciilifeform: decimation: if the indians graduating from u.s. schools agreed to live 10 to a room in a dormitory, instead of 250k/yr in chumper town (see http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-04-2014#606968) they might get hired in place of the imported coolies.
decimation: that is not what the news was, unfortunately. Not at all."
decimation: But the senator's attack on "three of our greatest masters of the universe," and "super billionaires," was clearly primed by Microsoft's announcement, also on Thursday, that it was laying off18,000 employees. "What did we see in the newspaper today?" said Sessions, "News from Microsoft. Was it that they are having to raise wages to try to get enough good, quality engineers to do the work? Are they expanding or are they hiring? No,
decimation: how relevant the senate is: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9249837/U.S._Senator_blasts_Microsoft_s_H_1B_push_as_it_lays_off_18_000_workers
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: Theodore Y. Ts'o doesn't comprehend what random means << 'random' is simply a non-scientific qualifier. like 'big'.
asciilifeform: hanbot: about the size of a compact car.
asciilifeform: hanbot: naturally depends on the size and quantity of objects being moved.
hanbot: well exactly. something bound by accidental inhalation on the lower end and hernias on the higher
kakobrekla: back then*
kakobrekla: iirc i paid about 5k back them for my stuff.
asciilifeform: cheap. but it has to stand somewhere. and be moved there.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: the funny part is, surplus lab robots (like the one i used to program) can be had for < $1k. but they're gigantic.
kakobrekla: at least that was the estimate that a company here gave me.
kakobrekla: well im getting mixed readings here - the offer in otc was 2btc? which is 1k or something?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: sure. i could have parts machined. but, on top of being a miser, i'm rather impatient.
kakobrekla: asciilifeform having one thing machined once is not same as having the machine at home
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: why would i wish for the gadget if i had a machining setup. (could then make one just like it.)
asciilifeform: hanbot: the american roland freisler
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benkay: <mircea_popescu> for a coupla hours there it looked like the whole damned charade'll have to be taken down and redone. // mpex?
mircea_popescu: in which we find Theodore Y. Ts'o doesn't comprehend what random means.
mircea_popescu: *look* random, even though the source material is anything but random."
mircea_popescu: "As an example, the following string of numbers is anything but random:1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 However, if this is run through a MD5 or SHA whitener, the result would
mircea_popescu: for a coupla hours there it looked like the whole damned charade'll have to be taken down and redone.
mircea_popescu: Namworld yeah but take the recent camho invasion for instance.
mircea_popescu: hopefully that'll cut donw on the join/part spam.
empyex: FabianB: Proxies: ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend. also fabian is pretty cool." MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies <newlist>)
benkay: i discovered at the border that my passport is expired. canadian borderfolk dgaf, but i'm *really* anticipating hitting US customs now.
mircea_popescu: i'd rather make it so it works than you know, make it so it phones.
jurov: but not sure if there's room for this scenario if mpex's completely ddos proof now..
jurov: and mpex users would be asked not to disclose the number
jurov: mircea_popescu: i meant for you to have actual modem onsite, to be able to reach mpex even if there's internet problem
benkay: you're already known as the btc baron?
mircea_popescu: <benkay> <thickasthieves> some kinda wtf WoTcoin http://www.wired.com/2014/07/document-coin/ // it's quite clear everyone'll eventually have their own coin. << truth. whore stopped me in the street last night, "gringo how do i get my own coin ?"
benkay: these canadians!
kakobrekla: now if youd be in eu, id grab all the parts and come with them to put it together - not even selling - would lend it for free.
kakobrekla: >prolly better off getting alu machined locally.< i mean all the profiles.
kakobrekla: other thing is, Z axis, while I have the parts, two alu blocks would still need to be machined - if you have access to machining you are prolly better off getting alu machined locally.
benkay: reputation and behavior are incredibly important because you can rewrite the blockchain basically at will, unless you do something with a merged-mine approach (but i don't know enough about mm to comment really)
benkay: <thickasthieves> some kinda wtf WoTcoin http://www.wired.com/2014/07/document-coin/ // it's quite clear everyone'll eventually have their own coin.
asciilifeform does not know the genuine figure, and doubts that anyone else does
mircea_popescu: "Black men who are employed also get the shaft by having an average life expectancy of 64 years, which means on average they don't live long enough to see any of their social security tax payments, given that the retirement age is 65 years."
mircea_popescu: they knew-or-should-have-known (tm) that people are sending dope through the mail and stopped offerind mail services!
mircea_popescu: benkay no they are criminalz.
herbijudlestoids: things have been going well on my end, after the first big customer hit we have had a bit of a flood of them, and our accountant has even managed to score us significant tax breaks around R&D for the last FY
herbijudlestoids: but i guess mircea_popescu knows whats what when it comes to building the system he designed
herbijudlestoids: yes, admit i was a little surprised about the downtime thing upon visiting trilema
thickasthieves: other than mpex
thickasthieves: “The US is certainly one of the world’s leaders. At some point it seemed that it was the only leader and a uni-polar system was in place. Today it appears that is not the case. Everything in the world is interdependent and once you try to punish someone, in the end you will cut off your nose to spite your face" ~ Putin
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gribble: The operation succeeded.
dub: the fuckingmachines.com one
gribble: The operation succeeded.
TheNewDeal: and outraged at the attactive
mircea_popescu: artifexd people are attracted by the outrageous.
artifexd: Also, I'm a little intoxicated. "Welcome to Ecuador" says the family, with alcohol.
artifexd: I don't understand this “burning bitcoin" concept. Bitcoin are destined to be one of the most valuable commodities that have ever existed. Burning them is just dumb. Plain and simple. Dumb.
nubbins`: i'd wondered what happened to goat, seems he's banned from the forums
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nubbins`: the british only created one country? ;D
mircea_popescu: religious obscurantism, you name it, they got it.
mircea_popescu: it starts with the us itself pretending to be part of the western world, while leading africa in rapes, teenage pregnancy, incarceration, functional illiteracy and the like
mircea_popescu: <decimation> this functions as a natural safety value which relieves people from pretending they are something that they are not << whole fucking contemporary us is built upon people pretending they are everyithing they're not.
decimation: whereas banning physical gold transaction is possible, at least within the "officially recognized" banking and exchange entities
decimation: one answer I came up with: banning bitcoin is banning information transfer, which seems to be beyond the power of the state
decimation: interesting, thanks for the tip
asciilifeform: even ancient china, apparently, had 'cram schools.' (see miyazaki, 'china's examination hell' - neat little monograph on the subject)
asciilifeform: decimation: the marginal kids get herded by their family into a kind of boot camp where they get trained, like animals, to jump through the burning ring
decimation: this functions as a natural safety value which relieves people from pretending they are something that they are not
decimation: I admire the german system for this reason; take a test around middle school to really determine if you are capable of the university path
decimation: at my university I found these types "lecturing" freshman psychology, hoping to "earn" a phd in social science
mircea_popescu: spends all the time it should spend training them so they stop sucking training them to believe they are just fine and this is what one does and should do.
mircea_popescu: decimation now imagine what happens to a society that takes all the natural victims of this phenomenon, kids aged 15-20, and a) preaches to the girls they should be more like the boys, ie, stupid in this particular manner and b)
decimation: there's also the dunning-kruger effect, the unskilled strongly tend to think that they are skilled
Pierre_Rochard: Right. Hmm. Going to sleep on this one now. I like the heuristic. I’ll be doing log reading this weekend with that in mind
Pierre_Rochard: would it be fair to say “pretending” = taking on a challenge that you don’t have the skills for, and “a thing” = taking on a challenge you have the skills for?
assbot: File:Challenge vs skill.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Pierre_Rochard: Reminds me of this diagram (excuse the wp): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Challenge_vs_skill.svg
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i spoke to other people from that time, and they remember her. from other lectures.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they could have thrown her out, np. just...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if i didn't know any better, i'd imagine we went to uni together. we had 'the same' chick! she bedeviled our number theory prof with at least a hundred very boneheaded questions every lecture. he seethed, boiled, but couldn't throw her out. why? 'registered special needs.' (going for math degree!) she even got unlimited time on exams.
mircea_popescu: there for all eternity, to confront generations of bright teenagers that'll take about five minutes to figure out she's a furniture, and maybe not torture her for it. maybe.
mircea_popescu: so, this poor unfortunate soul found herself living her parent's dream : an assistant professor! at the prestigious ubb no less!
mircea_popescu: all the kids that were any good left, generally the country. just about now, an elderly lady with a full professorship was looking for an assistant.
mircea_popescu: she came. for four years, that poor unfortunate soul sat there, dreading the moment anyone asked anything. because she knew she couldn't cope. just smart enough to smart.
mircea_popescu: now among this dozen, there was a mentally retarded girl. she wasn't badly touched, maybe 80 or so. definitely enough to take care of herself. definitely not enough for high level math. her parents however were i dun recall what academic country gentry, and so they insisted she go.
mircea_popescu: then the ministry decided it won't ok a 18 student class. so they took a dozen the kids that had fallen through 3 normal classes, and had not found an alternative hs in the dozen or so top highschools around. and put them in.
mircea_popescu: so, when i went to hs, they made this special "suprareal" class. (in romanian, "real" means you do math, otherwise it's a chick hs doing languages, or a prole hs doing "skills"). they made the entrance so fucking hard tho that only about 18 kids out of the entire region made it. the remainder "fell through" to 3 normal "real" classes at this elite hs.
mircea_popescu: the objection here is that she's working hard, not smart.
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard the objection here isn't on the lines of business. she looks like she could raise a million dollars on the vegas strip np
thickasthieves: i think it's where the wife wants to end up, deciding which nonprofits get pools of money
thickasthieves: ascii they are called trusts right?
asciilifeform: Pierre_Rochard: start an org that will give funds to pay for stuff the nonprofit won't pay for. do this until stack overflows.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, she's a ridiculous teenager, putting online a forum about "how to score chix"
mircea_popescu: the us is too meta.
Pierre_Rochard: fair enough, so the conclusion is that boring is a successful businessperson?
thickasthieves: wife met with a state senator today asking her to be on the board of a nonprofit that gives public school teachers funds for stuff the school won't pay for
mircea_popescu: she'll still take it in the ass.
Pierre_Rochard: well yes, the socialite buys social capital, I would call them a successful socialite, I wouldn’t normally call them a successful businessperson. they would find it offensive to compare their activities to commercial ones
mircea_popescu: the only measure of success is, "is this species still extant or meanwhile extinguished"