mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal why, do you normally carry people ?
Vexual: hows the spanish progressing mircea?
mircea_popescu: even the matzah ball's better.
mircea_popescu: but the cab service is really really good.
mircea_popescu: my lawyer's half a mile that way, the best sushi in town is a quarter mile this way, on it goes. longest walk i ever have to take is to get to the jooz quarter.
mircea_popescu: o and half a mile from the city congress
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i'm about 200 yards from the natl theatre, right behind the courthouse, half mile from the presidency and about a mile from the congress.
mircea_popescu: i'd have asked for the wife.
nubbins`: sliding scale, i let the kid away with $50 ;D
nubbins`: not sure if i mentioned this earlier, but i sold the rights to use one of my prints for a cassette cover today
mircea_popescu: im a floor above some shit that's a coupla floors above ground. i could just basically walk out the window if needed.
Vexual: you qou keep the requisite amount of climbing rope on hand?
mircea_popescu: i think the net effect of half the entire thing burning to a crisp would be slightly warmer walls.
mircea_popescu: it's pretty good. they do integral poured concrete building here, everything's built like a fucking dam.
copumpkin: perhaps not the best plan
mircea_popescu: copumpkin same thing i'm doing about global warming. waiting it the shit out.
copumpkin: oh, and the statement came out too!
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mircea_popescu: the gentleman aspires to a position of dominance, imagines himself unable to cope and offers the sad copout of ... 6 hours ?
nubbins`: do you put your money in a leather wallet or a dollar wallet?
mircea_popescu: basically that little bit of fat under the hair above a gal's gash turns into an udder with herbivores.
mircea_popescu: four, by the pubic mound. like all herbivores.
nubbins`: i don't think zebras have six tits at any location on their body
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re aaron toponce's "urandom, random, same thing&what the hell's the difference", i guess some people just don't wanna sit down and actually get a megabyte to work on.
mircea_popescu: he's taken the sexbot discussion to heart.
decimation: perhaps with the future hope of creating a closed-loop automated system
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decimation: marked reference points or the board itself?
xmj: what's the quickest way to get a US EIN after incorporating?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: for this application, i don't really need the stiffness of a traditional cnc rail set. but the '3d printer' kits are also unsuitable (poor accuracy, and they usually have moving tables.)
decimation: I gues the lesson is to buy parts, not assembled equipment
asciilifeform: decimation: for consumer junk, sure. but these motors, alone, usually sell for a few 100s each.
decimation: anything with "hp" on the label goes for 2x what it is worth
xmj: fluffypony: earlier today i've incorporated something in the US.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: swiss motors. same ones, actually, as in the machine i used to program.
decimation: re: kitesurfing, it is an extremely dangerous sport, people die all the time
dub: speaking to that last analysis there has been a palpable sense of desperation in anything out of kiev lately
decimation: with a service ceiling 10,000 feet below the 777 altutitude
decimation: re: mh17 : I find it hard to believe that someone who has the skills to successfully operate a high-altuitude SAM system can also fail to properly identify his target, especially confusing a 777 with a plane half its size and operated by prop
dub: a bit more work than the soviet 'radar leak'
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asciilifeform: http://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2014/07/21/can-the-su-25-intercept-and-shoot-down-a-777 << airplane wank
thestringpuller: Joys of driving a fast car: when there is no traffic, get home instantly.
benkay: <jurov> benkay, i like to tease you. but still, dreaming of building full-stack mpex model which will get obsolete on mircea's whims... // the point is not a full model of mpex, the point is a full testing of all paths through a codebase, guaranteeing its performance under known inputs.
kakobrekla: eskimo can do the baking.
dub: don't forget to IPO the result
dub: considering the level of pandering I'd guess its russian state funded
dub: who funds every other media outlet?
dub: showing the su-25 intercept?
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mircea_popescu: http://animalsversesanimals.yuku.com/topic/2559/Why-the-lion-normally-wins-in-a-fight-with-a-tiger << misspelled urls ftw.
mircea_popescu: girl i met recently asks me in all seriousness "if you could have any job in the world, what would it be ?"
Doffx: Same stuff, just kinda stopped popping in to the channels when I started a new job.
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Doffx: Was just coming back to the old channels to start chatting with old friends
mircea_popescu: Doffx wha seems to be the trouble ?
mircea_popescu: if there's demand
mircea_popescu: they are not, since you can just buy bitcoin with your fiat.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: maybe this is better as a trilema comment, but how are DERPS adjusted againt BTC volatility since they are priced in fiat?
bitcoinpete: like getting kicked in the balls is better than a firing squad
bitcoinpete: better than lamb's blood on the door frame and losing a first born… but still
bitcoinpete: Isis is marking Christian homes with the letter N, in Arabic ن which means “Nazarean”, so they pay punitive taxes. pic.twitter.com/THXzy0bSU1
mircea_popescu: isn't this like exactly the opposite of what should have happened ?
mircea_popescu: i actually have pretty cool nservers, irrespective of all the dub hate :D
bitcoinpete: an eyeglass tailer… now there's an idea!
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bitcoinpete: "if we discount the pavlovian conditioning, the only conclusion is that the entire news cycle pertaining to the downing of the Malaysian airliner is orchestrated in order to lay the blame on Putin."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know i grew up in the strict idea that eyeglasses are this made-for-user things, it completely fucking boggled me to see people "trying" on glasses.
bitcoinpete: "If we are honest and have the strength to face reality, we will realize that the Soviet Union did not collapse. It simply moved, along with Mao and Pol Pot, to Washington and London."
bitcoinpete: "make money while you sleep" (in the library, mall, etc.)
bitcoinpete: i wonder if they get second-hand dentures from the western world in the same shipments as t-shirts and jeans
bitcoinpete: like most of the world, i suppose
bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: african dentistry is something else. their notions of "health" and "cosmetically attractive" are wildly different.
asciilifeform always imagined that dentures must be serious business in the turd world, but never seen this before.
mircea_popescu: they meant kike surfing amirite ?
mircea_popescu: you can in principle cache it if you want, at the risk that you know, if it changes you have a bad cache.
FabianB: dunno if i should cache it; on the other hand it's realistic, since clients make a dns lookup as well usually
mircea_popescu: still, makes $mpexlag actualy more valuable as a middle-of-the-road sort of measure.
mircea_popescu: a the dns may be it yes.
mircea_popescu: pankkake: I almost lost to Bitcoin-24 (anyone remembers that one?) << oh yeah. i kept wanting to write a scathing piece, kept putting it off, then they belly up'd. lost my article heh.
FabianB: and i moved the bot to singapore
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: In order to ensure that the Islands [Isle of Man] international reputation is maintained, it has been decided that certain activities relating to virtual currencies should be brought within the Anti-Money Laundering/Countering the Financing of Terrorism (AML/CFT) framework. " << right. anyone who didn't see that one coming should not be a ceo in the first place.
FabianB: yeah, then no need to revoke
mircea_popescu: well... they're not exactly cash, now are they. obv pros know what it implies, but random person on the street... cash is cash rite ?
FabianB: mircea_popescu: just if you consider it potentially compromised (the old key)
bitcoinpete: like the dood who says "29b ppl on planet earth is no biggie"
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: these people being...
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete people gotta learn the limitations of linear interpolation sometime.
mircea_popescu: "but there is some ambiguity in this bet depending on the time zone..." <<< "I'm the last person on earth to not know what timezone bitbet uses through no fault of my own and also not having bothered TO READ THE MOTHERFAQING FAQ! and so therefore there's ambiguity in this bet. Not in my dumb fucking head that wouldn't be fit to grace a gargoyle. "
kakobrekla: dont mix the two.
kakobrekla: that is completley another scam.
mircea_popescu: which means he'll be the last btc biz to fail, but it'll still be a FAIL
mircea_popescu: jurov:how would one prepare a recovery process for exchange chaging all the order IDs? << order ids have always been a motherfucking bitch. new trade engine install, so there's that. sorry j!
mircea_popescu: jurov: coinbr will go offline till i sort out the mess << ohai.
mircea_popescu: o just the man i wanted to see.
thestringpuller: bitcoinpete: all out war on the dollar now. ;)
bitcoinpete: "China signed a bilateral currency swap agreement worth 150 billion yuan ($24.17 billion) with the Swiss central bank, which can invest up to 15 billion yuan in China's bond market."
Pierre_Rochard: xmj: do you want pass-through taxation or not? That (to my strictly accounting-based knowledge) is the primary difference
benkay: <jurov> how would one prepare a recovery process for exchange chaging all the order IDs? // gotta be manual.
benkay: <jurov> mpex broker really cannot be done by someone like benkay who needs all things to be neatly lined up // lining things up neatly first makes dealing with the inevitable manual stuff vastly less of a headache.
xmj: how much of a difference exists between doing business in the US and A with a) a LLC or b) a C corporation?
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Doffx: If its the same one.
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gribble: The operation succeeded.
jurov: at least coinbr got the dubious privilege of managing order #1
jurov: how would one prepare a recovery process for exchange chaging all the order IDs?
jurov: this would drive them crazy
gribble: The operation succeeded.
jurov: oinbr will go offline till i sort out the mess
jurov: fuck no.. they were renumbered???
jurov: just need to fix the data on order screen
nubbins`: really didn't think they'd be this hard to find
punkman: I got a few chinese industrial lenses, you probably want to avoid the cheap ones
asciilifeform: punkman: not actively, but slowly contemplating it when not doing other things
punkman: asciilifeform: you putting together a pick n place?
asciilifeform: dub: regardless of whether for pr0n or not
dub: I was watching the site but yes I see a trade now
jurov: i see, the #3 is for something else..derrrrrrp
mircea_popescu: jurov anyway, on faq #3 the only key is mine. it's not changed.
mircea_popescu: are you using a cached copy of the faq ?
jurov: btw, how do i ask the keyserver who signed it?
mircea_popescu: jurov that's MY key. of course it's the same.
pankkake: and how do we trust the new key?
mircea_popescu: use either .bz or ws at your option
jurov: thestringpuller wants me to enable coinbr, is it possible?
jurov: so it works with the old key?
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assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it's up.
jurov: 2FB7B452 is the new key?
jurov: !up Rulother
dub: which likely means they are not soa for it
dub: add that to your host file, and the problem moves to ns1|2.polimedia refusing to recurse for mpex.co
dub: mircea_popescu: now ns1/2 need to no they are soa for mpex.co
dub: 'gendns' doesnt have the records
BingoBoingo: God is actually just the old Debian RNG flaw, n always ===== 6
jurov: <mircea_popescu> basically god is just this very large dice assemblage in non-space, feeding all the quarks dicerolls.<< i suspect he actually uses prng with fixed seed
mircea_popescu: if that 6th chip actually delivers what they claim it delivers... holy hell what comes after yotta ?
benkay: <Basquiat_> bitstein: http://claritycurrency.com/ the latest in bitcoin startup scams // omg the scrolling divs
mircea_popescu: MarcSummers are you the real marc summers ? :p
xanthyos: is that the real marc summers?
dub: the answer is all of above
dub: this question 'what should you take to a $site', options ID, changte request, then lists three different access card types
dub: there was a bomb threat slide, which was particularly stupid in that I failed it
dub: I like how you can gauge just how stupid your average HR/HS peon is by the time they expect it to take for the test
BingoBoingo: Or maybe I flipped something around in there
BingoBoingo: Time's just the scraps left over after space is cleaved from the manifold by the faculty of sensation to cognition
asciilifeform: incidentally, we know that gate delay is thermally ticklish. how? easy - asynchronous circuits will speed up or slow down depending on temperature.
asciilifeform often wonders about thermal behaviour of the semiconductor widgetry connected to such clocks, and whether anyone even gives a fuck
asciilifeform laughs, reading log, seeing people thinking that microwave clock is for knowing the time.
mircea_popescu: the music community lol
Basquiat_: bitstein: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201955734645471&set=o.520416921397098&type=1&theater hard at work trading that crypto
bitstein: They ought to try banning guns.
bitstein: Basquiat_: The music.
bitstein: On a symbolic level, I like how the banner image has varying degrees of clarity.
bitstein: "Companies such as Facebook, Apple, Yahoo, EBay and Amazon have already begun implementing bitcoin transactions in their business models, in addition to Wallstreet, political candidates, and the music community."
decimation: yeah a grand seiko quartz should be less than 1 second per month based on their internal spec
dub: my phone can tell the time
decimation: I think the citizen watches are the only digital quartz watches made today with some level of accuracy
BingoBoingo: decimation: I imagine when it starts I'll just take the unix time from the nearest friendly timeserver
Diablo-D3: I wont bother replacing it
Diablo-D3: maybe by the time my watch dies
Diablo-D3: I wouldnt mind one of the new gshocks that are solar and self setting
decimation: well, how are you going to initially set your granfather clock? do you accept the communist's time reference frame?
BingoBoingo: It isn't like the blockchain demands timestamp precision
decimation: the conventional solution is to use gps for the same purpose, but that has the same problem
Diablo-D3: mine predates the time radio shit
BingoBoingo: I think a rhubidium "grandfather clock" at home is a better solution to the problem of "watch has shitty crystals" than WWVB's chicom signal.
decimation: apparently the firmware in the watch: 1.) doesn't use WWVB to correct its long-term frequency error 2.) produces a one-second offset when synced to WWVB
assbot: How to adjust the accuracy of a G-Shock
decimation: it turns out you can open up many quartz watches and adjust the trim pot to correct for aging error: http://forums.watchuseek.com/f43/how-adjust-accuracy-g-shock-83153.html
decimation: yeah, the last quartz watch sold on accuracy that I can find was in 1974: http://chronomaddox.com/omega_megaquartz_2400.html
decimation: it is interesting that the "high-end" watch world has gone away from "my watch is really accurate" to "look at the neat spinny gears"
BingoBoingo: Also Where the fuck are the Kurds? They are more a thing than refering to Iraq in the singular now.
BingoBoingo: If ever there were a chart which should have just been filled with "It's complicated"
assbot: The Middle East Friendship Chart
BingoBoingo: Overly simple charts http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2014/07/17/the_middle_east_friendship_chart.html
decimation: re: crap quartz clocks: I wondered how they did this in cell phones, because the absolute frequency is required to be within a certain range
mircea_popescu: ok so the great news is, mpex is fully operational.
BingoBoingo: Oh it does. I'm just trying to play a game with myself of which comments are psyops from what side, which are parody, and which are just feeding the trols
BingoBoingo: The comments here make a nice lens for paranoid about psyops http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/07/20/206205/russian-government-edits-wikipedia-on-flight-mh17
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not the one i was thinking of, bus similar concept.
BingoBoingo: I was born, therefore it is recent
BingoBoingo: So now there's a paper that helps to explain MPEx and threaten Rassah's usb wallet
BingoBoingo: After that you chase caesous precision because the fans can't slice cheese or something
asciilifeform: also must recall that machine contains other components with quartz oscillators - and some of these components sit on the bus and can toss interrupts.
asciilifeform: likewise - perhaps there is no need to point this out, but the linux/bsd kernel is also not a scientific instrument.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what, and pass the chance to scramble madly for a week ?
asciilifeform: incidentally, quartz oscillators generally don't come in the GHz range. there's a fairly modest (<100MHz) crystal and a PLL multiplier. which compounds any error...
mircea_popescu: dub these are draftees lol.
dub: 99% of people who sell themselves as experts at this are probably trying to use 'ping'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually i first learned of this when studying the demise of american tv makers.
BingoBoingo: I've long imagined a wrist portable watch with RTG (RTG also heats crystal) I'm resigned to knowing such a device probably wouldn't have the power to offer man readable time without an unacceptable risk of wrist cancer
dub: had an identical problem brought to me after months of hand wringing by systems teams, 30 minutes later they had data to smack vendor with who later admitted to hidden NIC revisions and supplied new driver
assbot: The Cheapest Crystal Oven
asciilifeform: back to clocks: it is grave mistake to regard a pc clock as a scientific instrument. you can get pretty good thermal stability out of a quartz resonator, using an 'oven' (more or less just like kitchen oven, in miniature - maintain controlled temperature.) but this is never found in a consumer appliance.
BingoBoingo: I didn't know it was /this/ bad. I almost would rather believe this is for people building plasma rifles on the down low.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there is an entire 'culture' of audio voodoo.
BingoBoingo: I kind of wonder what the ruse it, seems like an overly strong emphasis on CD player much as the headshops emphasize their glass pipes are for tobacco
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the inescapable question, is, as before, what one must smoke.
asciilifeform: 'put the rubidium oscillator's sine output into the cd player... it will enhance the sound quality greatly.'
benkay: <mircea_popescu> how about the entire fucking ocean floor is a mesh network of bacteria guys // okay
asciilifeform: rubidium clock << about 200 usd on 'ebay' and the like. who wants, can buy.
mircea_popescu: bazalt.ru << click on this, get added to some list or teh other.
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mircea_popescu: lmao. so let me get this straight, if putin v2.0 decides to visit the us, they'll know ?