fluffypony: I see the new thing is you have to release a whitepaper
neuroMode stops everything im doing, dumps all other altcoins, and buys Altcoin
fluffypony: he launched this: http://therealaltcoin.org
neuroMode: i wonder how many actual devs there are making these coins. Its likea fucking business now. I bet its like 5 groups of guys
fluffypony: I wonder how much of it is the same group of retards investing in a new shitcoin hoping to get rich
neuroMode: to the majority of people nowadays
neuroMode: yep. its all the cryptogoblins that pout about inflation and have a very narrow scope of cryptocurrencies
fluffypony: launch a PoW shitcoin, and then "suddenly" announce it's changing to PoS
neuroMode: it becomes very obviously a pyramid scheme no matter how well disguised the marketing campaign is
neuroMode: with no other means of obtaining it
neuroMode: like all other POS coins
neuroMode: I think Brian Kelly is shooting himself in the foot by listening to the cryptogoblins pushing for POS
FoOdies5: seriously tho when the fuck is Kubo gonna switch to Bach vs Squad 0 fights already
FoOdies5: and now the daughter wants to be born on my b-day
Duffer1: consider the audience foodies, reddit/bitcointalk "investors"
fluffypony: the article he wrote was all like "this is my little experiment"
FoOdies5: except maybe if he can outtrade the owner and get some money
fluffypony: tbh I don't know if the NBC "contributor" / blogger dude intended it that way
FoOdies5: so it baffles me why anyone in their right mind would invest in it
FoOdies5: maybe keep the coin from going up
FoOdies5: what the fuck can you stabilize with a premine ?
FoOdies5: either way it's a scheme
FoOdies5: near the top
FoOdies5: 8bit interacted with one of their devs
fluffypony: brought to you by the David Seaman circlejerk
assbot: has 'blocktech' been associated with anything other than pump and dumps?
fluffypony: nm then
fluffypony: kakobrekla: you're not the boss of me!
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 2 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> i didn't think the rss had propagated yet.
jborkl: where is the mpex.co site now?
BingoBoingo: Implement UTXO commitments blockchain pruning and fully validating but not full-history nodes << Killing this is basically the goal of Fall 2014-2015
artifexd: Summary: Make a few videos showing how to register a nick, create a key, register in the wot.
assbot: Adverse Job Impact of the DFS BitLicense Proposal
thickasthieves: http://www.scribd.com/doc/235471330/Adverse-Job-Impact-of-the-DFS-BitLicense-Proposal
thickasthieves: stalking, research, what's the difference
gribble: The operation succeeded.
artifexd: ;;later tell jurov Did you come up with a script for the wot video? Do you still need somebody to record the mac version?
kakobrekla: Hi shardymop - I'm really sorry about the trouble you've been having
kakobrekla: the PR reply starts with
gribble: coingenuity was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 weeks, 6 days, 16 hours, 58 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <coingenuity> mircea_popescu: there's a lot of them
fluffypony: or the part where he beats people up outside bars
rithm: i think the business model had a side business involving time-value
mircea_popescu: i didn't think the rss had propagated yet.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate coingenuity -1 http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-bitcoin-defrauding-20140729-story.html apparently there's substance to all those nondelivery claims ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: letter to the sultan!
artifexd: What was the training material?
artifexd: kakobrekla: How does assbot come up with the abbreviations for responding to spank?
mthreat: i went to give $50 and the form required a name and email address, and i left
gribble: Go, Go Second Time Virgin (1969) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065233/>; Go, Go, Second Time Virgin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go,_Go,_Second_Time_Virgin>; Koji Wakamatsu's Go, Go Second Time Virgin – Offscreen: <http://offscreen.com/view/wakamatsu1>
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nothing specifically primate here. consider the elephant seal, etc
mircea_popescu: remarkable that chimps are saner than people, and don't really care about the young girls.
mircea_popescu: ual intercourse with young females (who arouse less rivalry), his share was almost 100 %. Sex was his monopoly in the group." (de Waal 1990: 167-168).
mircea_popescu: "When I am observing the Arnhem chimpanzees I sometimes feel I am studying Freuds primal horde; as if a time machine has taken me back to prehistoric times, so that I can observe the village life of our ancestors. They still accept the droit du seigneur, one of the forgotten products of western culture. When Yeroen was the alpha male, he alone was responsible for about three-quarters of all matings. Not counting sex
asciilifeform: rather like the apparently inexhaustible scamz0rs who post proposal for whatever, and you scroll, see 'member of btc Phoundation'
asciilifeform: 'One glimpse at the following chart of Russian stocks today and one wonders if the West needed to arrest the gains that their "costs" had imposed...'
ThickAsThieves: they came just fine
ThickAsThieves: i ordered two t-shirts with a btc logo in the style of a citi bank logo
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the kid has a lot of zeal doesn't he ?
artifexd: Once could use the #bitcoin-otc-ratings channel as source material for a very funny soap opera.
artifexd: because some regular there picked a fight. Very trustworthy when i comes to busines <<< Moar lol
artifexd: <gribble> New rating | birdman > 3 > danielpbarron | Holds alot of my btc, very knowlageable with cryptography, is childish and doesnt understand the web of trust. negative rated me for getting devoice on #bitcoin-assets. Rationalizes that he had to change the +2 he had for me to a -4 because of his appearence there. Not to mention i was devoiced there
artifexd: <gribble> Rating change | Old rating 2 | New rating: danielpbarron > -4 > birdman | have known face-to-face for several years; currently an idiot, but there is still hope.. <<< LOL
assbot: EXCLUSIVE: Payments giant First Data acquires Gyft in an effort to bring digital gift cards to the masses | PandoDaily
ThickAsThieves: http://pando.com/2014/07/30/payments-giant-first-data-acquires-gyft-in-an-effort-to-bring-digital-gift-cards-to-the-masses/
ThickAsThieves: Anyone who used Tor between early February and July 4th of 2014 "should assume they were affected" by the attack, says the Tor team.
ThickAsThieves: that should be your response then
ThickAsThieves: get with the program
mircea_popescu: now why would i want that ? let them be boring and plain old ordinarily unenhanced.
mircea_popescu: "do you smoke pot" they want to know.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, these people here are fucking nuts. do you know what the #1 universal question is, as you start getting intimate ?
mircea_popescu: "honey, i don't want you to leave the house anymore"
ThickAsThieves: the limerick was my way of complaining
ThickAsThieves: nope it's just cuz i wanna read and digest her articles but they are so fukn dense with words and links
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you're also implying that the source of her intellect is mystical.
mircea_popescu: this is exactly the definition of a good lay
ThickAsThieves: so the distilled answer is, "Dude I like sex more than you, it ain't mean nuthin!" ?
mircea_popescu: ths because they HAVE spent a lot of time thinking about sex.
cazalla: only part that bothers me is half of mircea_popescu tumblr links look like they came from rusty and eddies
mircea_popescu: remarkably enough, my use of the sex metaphor is actually unrelated to sex. it just happens to be an incredibly good structure for explaining things to people, especially people who haven't spent a lot of time thinking, either generally or on the topic at hand.
mircea_popescu: not only is there not*
mircea_popescu: well, the objection'd be that hyper requires an average, and not only is there a good objective average sex, but why would anyone care ? this then reduces the problem to a personal matter, "he talks more of it than i do. this is inconvenient for x y z reasons."
ThickAsThieves: maybe i can translate for chetty, or at least put words in her mouth. you have a hyper-sexualized view of things, using sex as metaphor constantly, being quite horny, keeping sex slaves, sex is majorly part of your psyche, going so far as to imply a hypersexual person is a hypersuccessful person/ why do you think it's so important and how does this relate to the inferiority assumed by
cazalla: met her online, she invited me over, i get there, lets me straight in and then tells me to be quiet because her kids are asleep, news to me at that point, she had kicked her husband out few days prior too
ThickAsThieves: is there anything in sex that does not relate to life
mircea_popescu: what the holy fuckballs of heaven do you mean "generic term not biology" ?
mircea_popescu: and suddenly the glasses are in plain view.
mircea_popescu: this isn't really a fair statement of the problem
chetty: mircea_popescu, is there anything in life that does not relate to sex?
mircea_popescu: "The ruling requires Argentina to pay 100 percent of its debt to the holdouts at the same time Argentina pays the restructured bonds to the holdins. Argentina is not allowed, under Griesas ruling, to pay some creditors but not others. The payment date was June 30. Because Argentina missed its payment, it is now under a 30-day grace period. If Argentina does not pay by the end of July it will, again, be formall
mircea_popescu: no, you all see the world through monoculture glasses!
mircea_popescu: comes back, little worse for the wear.
mircea_popescu: the subtext i read there is, guy buys diamond ring, girl spends a few hours on the end of a leash that day.
chetty: (he isnt almost naked, thats the problem)
ThickAsThieves: seems their atm works just fine
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves see now THEY could make a bitcoin atm.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, yeah, it's actually impossible to keep a well trained slavegirl restrained. she'll wiggle out, over time. this being more for the engineering of it etc.
ThickAsThieves: "The New York Times found that Al Qaeda and its direct affiliates have taken in at least $125 million in revenue from kidnappings since 2008, of which $66 million was paid just last year."
chetty: haha well I kinda just assume usg and eu is doing same stuffs these days
mircea_popescu: justusranvier explain the algorithm in question again for the benefit of they with difficulties reading ?
mircea_popescu: chetty lol@cnbtc. and i guess the us hasn';t recently embarked in a joyride of paying ransoms to hide the reality of its middle eastern defeat ?
justusranvier: If you don't like physical ATMs, then implement the same trading algorithm with human traders
asciilifeform: unless random people took initiative to shelter them secretly.
asciilifeform: these - are being built even now.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that would then not be a btc atm. it would be a satanic usg attack on btc.
ThickAsThieves: palm reader, hehe, maybe they should include tea-leaf readers too
mircea_popescu: if you can make items that can';t be traced back to you, you've satisfied the rape requirement i detailed yest.
asciilifeform: naturally. if there's a 'you'
mircea_popescu: aml/kyc is a fundamental component of the current order. you can't annul it just like that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: here's one gedanken-atm. it's inside a concrete block, cannot be repaired, etc. 50kg of thermite if disturbed. then, simply leave it somewhere reasonable. (network connectivity an exercise for alert reader.)
ThickAsThieves: <+cazalla> wonder if they ripped the design from this site http://www.viktyo.com/ /// ha!
mircea_popescu: the only reason random shithole allows you to do really obnoxious shit is that random shithole is small and dumb.
mircea_popescu: if you break that, might as well just walk into the police station and start shooting randomly.
ThickAsThieves: thats the point mp is saying you have wrong i think
mircea_popescu: the kind of threat model when where you intend to break the laws of whatever lord, you'd better have better arms than him.
chetty: haha they should always be deployed right next to regular atms, simply everything
ThickAsThieves: where to bring the cash tho...
justusranvier: They already have high-value merchandice that they keep an eye on to stop it from being stolen
justusranvier: The Bitcoin ATM that's physically closest to me is in a store (Brave New Books) where most of the employees have concealed handgun permits.
ThickAsThieves: justusranvier you posit a bankless atm, so you have accepted the tasks of competing with better ATMs, no?
mircea_popescu: just because you don't see it yourself doesn't mean either that it's not there nor that you can make your own.
asciilifeform: justusranvier: the saecular authorities will not protect btc atm.
justusranvier: mircea_popescu: Same thing that prevents youfrom doing it to all the other ATMs in the world
ThickAsThieves: thats just cuz no one put money into making them better i bet
justusranvier: ThickAsThieves: The issue is cost and capacity of recyclers
asciilifeform: to correctly short squirrel, somebody must believe that it will get up and walk again, and then you bet against this
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ThickAsThieves: ;;later tell justusranvier "Strictly speaking, a recycler is not essential. The ATM could remain unbanked by having a separate cash dispenser and cash acceptor, and this would mean that it would require manual servicing to move the cash from one receptacle to the other." Well if the point is to not use a bank, maybe take the time design machine that can spit out cash it receives itself?
mircea_popescu: cazalla chumpatron knows their audience.
ThickAsThieves: <+asciilifeform> short it << outside my windows, a dead squirrel, buzzing with flies. how do i short it? /// the eternal question
cazalla: i knew before i scrolled there would be a token black kid on that new site
mircea_popescu: who, apparently, is also involved in the eth scam
mircea_popescu: "Why We Need a Foundation" << wrong question. who's "we" and more importantly, why we don't need another scam run by vesseness ?
ThickAsThieves: their logo sux
mircea_popescu: NOW i realise the fucking bubbles were done in ms paint.
asciilifeform: g: 'show me the real budget.' a: 'you're asking too much. that's off limits to you.'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: remember the story about gorby and andropov?
mircea_popescu: But the median debt, $1,350, is still pretty substantial, she adds. who the fuck carwes what the median is. jesus.
mircea_popescu: nevermind, i'm not interested in what these doods have to say anymore.
mircea_popescu: Researchers relied on a random sample of 7 million people with data reported to the credit bureaus in 2013 to estimate what share of the 220 million Americans with credit files have debts in collection.
asciilifeform: child support payments << phun phact! we still have debtor's prisons for these in usa
ThickAsThieves: while i dont care, i could argue their wording is leading you
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves textbook exercise in how to devalue a market to the point you can no longer survive in it.
ThickAsThieves: i doubt thats the deal Dell got
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves : "The report analyzed 2013 credit data from TransUnion to calculate how many Americans were falling behind on their bills. It looked at how many people had non-mortgage bills, such as credit card bills, child support payments and medical bills, that are so past due that the account has since been closed and placed in collections."
ThickAsThieves: "By comparison, one of BitPay’s biggest competitors here in the United States, Coinbase, offers a no-fee processing service for the first $1 million in bitcoin revenue. After that, a one percent fee is charged upon conversion from bitcoin to local currency."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: having them translated << to english? this promises to be exceedingly difficult
asciilifeform: another place people 'borrow' is... the tax authorities. (how? many who are classified as 'contractor' aren't paying their bill on time, because gotta eat.)
mircea_popescu: btw asciilifeform, re our discussion yest. im toying with the idea of putting together a bulk of russian "dark whateveritwas" writings and having them translated.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also fails to count the folks who borrowed from unofficial loan sharks
mircea_popescu: assbot: A third of consumers with credit files had debts in collections last year - The Washington Post << clearly the economy's recovering o.O
mircea_popescu: and heuristics are incantations, but they don't summon me.
mircea_popescu: except, of course, if you're one of the sort of vain fucktards bitcoin's been blessed with. too good to obey, too fucking stupid to boil water.
mircea_popescu: cazalla said "well, that too but they were warned". to this i said, "a nod is as good as a wink". as in, it shouldn't really take much warning that when a cock is going in and out of your butt, you're being fucked.
cazalla: i'm reading that heuristics pdf again, perhaps they are incantations?
cazalla: speak of the devil..
artifexd: Then... 2 lines later I get all confused again. mircea_popescu, can you clarify for me?
BingoBoingo: !up the20year1
thick_as_thieves: he's sweet otherwis
thick_as_thieves: when you get em that young, they turn out awesome
thick_as_thieves: we foster them young
moiety: how old is she there
moiety: ive had them at 5 weeks and bellies were fine
thick_as_thieves: the sock suit was to stop her from picking at her bellybutton
assbot: The Life Cycle of a Parasitic Specialist
BingoBoingo: http://www.epmonthly.com/departments/columns/in-my-opinion/the-life-cycle-of-a-parasitic-specialist/#comment-2805
cazalla: i crumb and then panfry the hind/fore legs, toss the rest in a slow cooker, started using the kidneys + liver for pate recently
cazalla: could produce more but i like to give the does a month break once she weans them, the commercial ones are typically rebreed same day as they give birth
cazalla: punkman, 8 kittens ready to eat in about 2 weeks besides the 2 does 1 buck for breeding
punkman: I'd rather have a goat
thick_as_thieves: <+BingoBoingo> ;;later tell ThickasTheives http://therealaltcoin.org/ seems down /// up for me, but that's one more sign namecheap hosting sux
moiety: aww he's so cute... did your other one come back yet?
punkman: also made the older kitty jealous and she left
BingoBoingo: punkman: I think asciilifeform set a standard that cats in this channel need either serious fluff or confirmed kills...
moiety: "o a nice raised up rug/bed, thanks!" i reckon would be the response or "this one wont talk to me!"
BingoBoingo: I dunno, maybe they would smell that doing so would be unwise...
moiety: i could see them sitting on it actually
BingoBoingo: moiety: That is an interesting question? How would your other cats handle their favorite being immobile?
BingoBoingo: And frustrating when their face is partially obscured because you know they are making great faces
moiety: if i were to write to a zoo do you think they would let me stuff one that died naturally?
moiety: the*
moiety: that woman has THE best job ever
assbot: The Unfluffly Truth about Pallas' Cats at Prospect Park Zoo - YouTube
moiety: ik! the WTF face is even better in a video too
BingoBoingo: moiety: They are so much better moving!!!
cazalla: we were meant to go the day prior but it was cancelled due to bad weather, should've been a headsup for what was to come heh
cazalla: i had to keep it together for her sake but i was terrified, tour operator ended up turning back as he was concerned as well
cazalla: missus started crying, it was her idea too as she wanted to see the seals etc
cazalla: moiety, although i've been around tasman island and the wind was that bad, figured the boat would overturn for sure
moiety: very few appreciate them
BingoBoingo: moiety: Have they exhausted your manul supply already?
moiety: oh fuck that, my search for the least windy place to live continues
moiety: well fuck off then no need to tell everyone
cazalla: BingoBoingo, the one thing Australia lacks!
assbot: You'll Never Guess What These Amazing Homes Are Made Out Of by Urbasm | Details Network
moiety: just look at these! o.O http://network.details.com/post/shipping-container-homes-simple-is-the-new-awesome they don't look so cheap
BingoBoingo: moiety: You know the shut ins
moiety: omg i saw the most amazing shipping container house
cazalla: there's been a few shipping container ghettos here in australia
BingoBoingo: Seriously the tenant present a schedule of when they need out well in advance, and otherwise they go in the box.
dub: solution: live with other ocd folk
cazalla: moiety, i lived with 2 other guys in a 2 bedroom unit when i was much younger, we turned the loungeroom into another bedroom as it had a door, was worth it at the time to save on rent but the cooking, cleaning is a pita when others don't rate it as highly as i do on list of things to do
BingoBoingo: Eh, maybe you could rent a box or something, The tenent tell you when they need out and until them you just lock them in?
moiety likes to wander freely - not a good thing to do with starngers inthe house
moiety: cazalla: thats another thing, this flat is huge but the spare room is actually really quite small. its the only small room. i couldn't cram someone in there and charge them for it. also i have cats that would piss someone off i thnk. they like laying on clean clothes
BingoBoingo: cazalla: This is -assets, the hours become a problem too
moiety: wasn't sure i was going to either. it really shouldnt be so hard to keep a roof over one's head
BingoBoingo: moiety: I mean you did save the sex weeks flat
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BingoBoingo: Ah In the old days