ben_vulpes: wow this girl's internet hates the bitcoin client
ben_vulpes: anyone interested can see the thing, i'm also emailing it to you.
mircea_popescu: but not the actual filename.
ben_vulpes: of all the...
mircea_popescu: none of this toe in the large ocean of sluttery i say.
mircea_popescu: well then... let em do it right.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> moving the goalposts on me boss this is not how you run a business << Check my tweets to Ben Lawsky I am running a charity
ben_vulpes: moving the goalposts on me boss this is not how you run a business
mircea_popescu: speaking odf which, store here put bags on all the manequins heads with like "discount!!1" and so on . shit was eerie.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if it includes the woman that'll make a vulpe vulpes then by all means. BUT NONE OF THAT NO FACE BULLSHEIT.
ben_vulpes: yeah so i shut the laptop, what of it
mircea_popescu: A rapturous young fellatrix one day was at work on five pricks. With an unholy cry she whipped out her glass eye: "Tell the boys I can now take on six."
mircea_popescu: A nasty old drunk in Carmel thinks it funny to piss in the well. He says, "Some don't favor that unusual flavor, but I don't drink the stuff -- what the hell!"
mircea_popescu: and it wasn;t the richest. it was the better. which is what the peerage is : the better people.
decimation: this seems to be the right idea to me, the principle being that the state recognizes those who are beyond its reach
mircea_popescu: well what do they know.
decimation: some Marxists think that the ancien regime was unfairly taxed because the richest were taxed at the lowest rates (or immune from tax)
mircea_popescu: decimation intellectuals SHOULD run everything. the only problem is that the courtiers of the french republic are not intellectuals.
decimation: http://falkenblog.blogspot.com/2014/07/pikettys-terrifying-dystopia_27.html "Piketty is a modern progressive, best defined as someone who thinks intellectuals should run everything as the vanguard of the people, which is why academics, journalists, and writers are predominantly progressive."
FoOdies5: anyway, I'm out, perhaps we'll get the chance to meet in this lifetime I'd really love to flip you off in real life just for using unnecessarily complicated words in an irc channel
mircea_popescu: well, except the psychopaths.
mircea_popescu: which is why generally people prefer going with their retinue.
FoOdies5: although trying to explain the concept to a pompous prick does seem like a lost cause
BingoBoingo is still in the russian concept of "Big Jail" over that alleged misdemeanor "turrurism" phone call
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: I'm sorry, I'm just a pasty white victim of violence in the Middle West.
FoOdies5: exactly when the cops came in
BingoBoingo: I mean DreadKnight at least showed a classic romanian taste in game aesthetics
FoOdies5: I'm still not fine tuned with the high level of references used in bitcoin-assets
assbot: TV Show The Blacklist mentions Bitcoin - YouTube
mircea_popescu: wait the who what ?
FoOdies5: so save them bitcoins for old age
FoOdies5: but seriously tho, seenig what kids these days grow up on, we're pretty much fucked
FoOdies5: luckily there's boomerang who still broadcasts golden stuff
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo but what's the offense, someone sending fake trackbacks that don't exist on the actual page ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Basically trackbacks are great and you can curate them, but because link /= citation spammers on this protocol when identified need super spanked until they correct
mircea_popescu: his last thing was, iirc, interviewing the stupid-had-fuckface, before his innovative genuis idea turned scam
BingoBoingo: Any blawgers thing I'm off the mark on trackbacks? http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/29/actual-internet-etiquette-trackbacks-and-spam/
mircea_popescu: like the episode filmed in demo mode and so on ?
FoOdies5: a full half hour of the guy from btcxchange trying to explain bitcoin to an old ass relic
asciilifeform: 's expensive these days
mircea_popescu: FoOdies5 how do you know random nobodies from like nowehre to the degree you'd give a shit either way ?!
mircea_popescu: and they really can't afford money.
mircea_popescu: some chick wanted to interview me once over a corruption scandal, pisse dme the fuck off, i ended up putting a pay barrier in place
mircea_popescu: well no, just, the ragazines that pretend to be romanian press have an ancient interdict with me, is the thing.
FoOdies5: you a rap star now nigga, bitches claiming they know you and shit
FoOdies5: don't worry I don't like you that much either
mircea_popescu: FoOdies5 i think i'm well hated by virtually all the romanian would be bloggers.
ben_vulpes: w/out flux to change the daylight around, it'd have to be 945
FoOdies5: I love being in the loop
jwSchool: since they have several coins now
FoOdies5: and I just said I just watched a few episodes of the boondocks so I might sound a bit ghetto for a while
mircea_popescu: nm, it's a race to the bottom, my bad.
FoOdies5: I was talking about the gypsy part
mircea_popescu: and generally you know, always give the worst worker the hardest job with the shittiest tools etc.
mircea_popescu: my philosophy is not that it should be hard, but merely that if anyone complains, of anything, it should be made worse for them.
ben_vulpes: riding my bike all over town (what american child can ride a bike around their town?!)
ben_vulpes: chatting with garbage men in the alley while reading in my backyard bush
BingoBoingo: Because I simply cannot bring myself to throw away food, we are going to eat from the prison commissary tonight.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: i dodge - shit you not i kick his ankle and then run into the parking lot, where (again, not shitting in the slightest) he chases me in circles while his friend smokes a cigarette next to my friend. << this sounds like a happy childhood.
BingoBoingo: I'll confess to writing the 21 Billion at the end of meteorological summer bet. The Billy Hamilton bet though must have been Ohio scum.
BingoBoingo: Honestly for Hard liquor in America, the more you pay the more likely you are to be scammed
BingoBoingo: As linked a while back Mega factory MGD makes terrific rye whiskey so pick the cheapest label slapped on it
BingoBoingo: Bottom shelf vodka is more drinkable than top shelf. << Reason for this is cheap American vodka starts with close to pure ethanol and is them water down to vodka
BingoBoingo: Generally though in the US bourbons and ryes are drinkable. Bottom shelf vodka is more drinkable than top shelf.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the only time i had decent stuff in the us was in san antonio (for breakfast!) and i didn't pay. so pure guesswork on my part.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: In the Us it is.
BingoBoingo: It's better than what the Dagos ship here
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo i doubt you can have anything drinkable in the us for under 1k a bottle. << I don't drink much wine, because I'm too picky for the normal local selection, but I'll get five bottles of Egri Bikaver at the supermarket in hopes I can three are palatable.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i doubt you can have anything drinkable in the us for under 1k a bottle.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but when you do your winning math << I try to blackjack to the house edge.
ben_vulpes: aren't all drinks outside the home overcharged for?
BingoBoingo: Since... they aren't charging
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: but not before people made payments that were 1/100000 of what they meant to pay << fucking idiots for srs. 5 zeros ? why, because 8 and 5 are mutually prime ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo that's not winning, that's getting drunk on your own success. << What is a greater example of winning than losing exactly the house edge over 8 hours and drinking to success on the top shelf?
BingoBoingo: neuroMode: No, I mean exactly that. There is a way to win blackjack, and that is you get moar comped drinks than you lose at the table.
mircea_popescu: ^ this use the experience for helping next time shizzle...
neuroMode: and chalk up your losses to either not counting cards well enough or just bad luck and use the experience for helping next time
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: the ones that need to peg to another blockchain for security << this is not really all that true, in general the best use of resources should be mining the chain rather than attacking it.
BingoBoingo: <kakobrekla> dont do hd porn, you will end up on wiki searching up all the diseases. << Good reason to avoid whores willing to negotiate prices (in the april and may logs)
neuroMode: i mean gambling wise. people know they will lose at times, they just put more money right back on the table
kakobrekla: dont do hd porn, you will end up on wiki searching up all the diseases.
assbot: The story of Pointless and Witless pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> arguably franco spain was the last white thing. << Well, until 2011
mircea_popescu: arguably franco spain was the last white thing.
mircea_popescu: ie, the supporters of stewart against the parliament, and of louis against the french revolution.
mircea_popescu: moral hazard right there.
mircea_popescu: ironically, because of idiocy like the us left and food stamps and the govt dole, people like armandi (who is still active btw) are making more moneys than your average ditch digger.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think what's meant is someone with the label.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: mypersonal favourite is the SummerCoinV2 whitepaper << iut's fucking disgraceful these idiots are allowed to use any words they wish. bring back the classroom ruler i say.
mircea_popescu: neuroMode: i wonder how many actual devs there are making these coins. Its likea fucking business now. I bet its like 5 groups of guys << more like 3.
mircea_popescu: neuroMode: I think Brian Kelly is shooting himself in the foot by listening to the cryptogoblins pushing for POS << i still don't see how exactly they figure pos does anything, bitcoin is fucking white enough w/o it. but anyway, naut actually means chickpeas in romanian.
mircea_popescu: FoOdies5: and now the daughter wants to be born on my b-day << it's pretty good sharing a bday with your daughter. you can take her drinking.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> he recently convinced weev to "go the kickstarter route", with results that still make people lol. << Weev is going to learn the hard way he isn't old enough for Taleb or even Orlov's deference
mircea_popescu: he recently convinced weev to "go the kickstarter route", with results that still make people lol.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: and I think Weiner et. al. convinced him it could be "bigger" than an experiment <<< kinda remind me of the pernicious influence of max keiser, with his couple of scamcoins.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: issue 'bastard files' to the womenz? substitute for milling?
mircea_popescu: forget all the weird machinery, install sundecks, allow desperate 30yo womenz to sun themselves for a blowjob + $100.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: neither the shack, nor the house it comes with, nor its contents, are 'permanent solutions'
mircea_popescu: rthing they'd notice.
mircea_popescu: FoOdies5: what the fuck can you stabilize with a premine ? maybe keep the coin from going up <<< this is exactly correct . the braindamage going on here is that fuckwits understand you need resources to prop a coin, and lackin any resources they wish to... borrow them. since they're making a coin anyway it's ~easier~ to roll both into one. that this reduces to trying to pull yourself up by your own breeches is not some
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: the shack has a sealed wooden floor, level enough for most purposes << Given your humidity this isn;t a permanent solution>
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the shack has a sealed wooden floor, level enough for most purposes
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: played with the fancy self-leveling 'crete yet?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that's where the machines live now. not ideal, from standpoint of humidity & temperature, but practical.
kakobrekla: how much do the toilets go for?
asciilifeform confesses that he considered renting warehouse to house machines. then learned that, for what this would cost for ~1 year within practical driving distance, he could have a golden toilet nanofabricated atom by atom.
BingoBoingo: Cairo is basically the most civilized location in Illinois by virtue of being the Furthest from Shitcago.
mircea_popescu: like what, snort the span "?
mircea_popescu: i get along nice everywhere, much to the butthurt surprise of all the people who imagine themselves experts in the matter on the grounds of derping a lot on the subject, and then never getting along anywhere really.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you could probably afford the services of an actual machinist for what this costs, no ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu pronounced cairo kay-ro all over egypt, to much botherment of everyone. << You would get along nicely in the first place the Blacks won the Civil rights movement in the US.
ben_vulpes: no. i rent space in places suited for their uses.
mircea_popescu pronounced cairo kay-ro all over egypt, to much botherment of everyone.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm in the south part of the midwest, but have lived close to the wire.
mircea_popescu: the bread is basically wonderbread french rolls.
mircea_popescu: and their bread is an utter outrage. they have all these panaderias which sell sweets.
mircea_popescu: one of the most wtf ads here is, "polenta. para quando necesitas polenta".
ben_vulpes: anyone who's not lifing heavy things regularly is going to rot quickly in their old age
mircea_popescu: mike_c fact one is that the guy who used to claim he has >1k undelivered actually has a name now ; fact two is that this has been a topic of conversation here, for months.
BingoBoingo: I can send the females. No putting your penis inside them tho as form of payment. :P << I assume this is a part of the process
mircea_popescu: fancy the odds!
thestringpuller: I can send the females. No putting your penis inside them tho as form of payment. :P
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i only do girls.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: my niggas need educating how much do I have to pay you to whip em in to shape if I sent them to Argentina?
mircea_popescu: @SecondMarket Can I be CEO? << no tat, that' the onl;y thing you can't be. everything elkse tho..
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: http://www.thehomegunsmith.com/pdf/9mmPistol.pdf
ben_vulpes: in my experience it's slightly more cost effective (and entertaining!) to buy an actual fuck-off big-boy-pants mill and bolt the steppers on oneself.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'd still rather have a CNC mill again than any 3d printer.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: for some reason, there is this cult of 'automation' where user doesn't have to use his hands
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> hence 'theoretical' << Home depot uzi is a more feasible thing the 3d printed
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: hence 'theoretical'
mircea_popescu: obviously the point must be something else than actual use.
duduqa: It's been easier to "sell" the bitcoin idea during these times of fear of becoming another Venezuela
duduqa: I don't know, but I'd rather have my exposure reduced once the Fed rises (even minimally) its rates
duduqa: It's actually taken for granted by most of the local economists
duduqa: small meetups are happening, small whatsapp groups are forming and people are slowling buying, fearing another maxidevaluation of BRL
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: perhaps the individual components could be made inscrutable and pieced together into a working...piece?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: isn't the whole point of the theoretical 'printed arms' that - no one but owner knows he has them ?
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Blue%20Balls | the excrutiating pain a man receives when his balls swell to the size of coconuts because of lack of sex, unfinished bjs, and just not cummin when ...
mircea_popescu: any idea why is it called blue dollar ? rather than maroon or w/e ?
duduqa: Brazilian most popular finance website (infomoney.com.br) quotes the bitcoin price and has a dedicated bitcoin columnist - Fernando Ulrich (pretty good)
duduqa: yes...we have the ptax\commercial dollar (cheaper, used for credit card purchases) and the blue dollar, which is roughly the ptax + 6.38% international purchase tax (which you have to pay in case you use your credit or debit card)
BingoBoingo: Fedex has the weird routing, but UPS has hubs in nowheresville so far removed from my nowheresville when there's actually a UPS hub near an urban center close to my middle of nowhere
duduqa: Hi, folks! I'm just an average Joe from Brazil. Here are some mundane news in case it might be interesting for the logs: volume is rising at exchanges (not all of them are depicted at http://exchangewar.info/coinprice?BRL_BTC), price higer than the local blue dollar, facebook group at over 9,000 participants, Zipzap and equivalents working here. We have even our newborn bitpay-equivalent: pagcoin.com
ben_vulpes: UPS for the second instance i warrant
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo something in there wasn't right.
assbot: Naughty Sorceress - TheKolWiki
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: What I value about USPS is they deliver on a promised, fast timeline. Fedex and USPS seem to encounter... delays...
ben_vulpes: well, order at the very least.
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between fiction and convention.
ben_vulpes: altcoins are fictional, bitcoin is the sole truth
Luke-Jr: nonsense, it was just a fiction in the first place
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: if the SEC dies because you set a precedent of non-cooperation, is that a corpse?
mircea_popescu: well that's good then
mircea_popescu: but there is a corpse.
mircea_popescu: so let's meet in the middle. "she wanted to buy birth control in my pharmacy so i shot her."
Luke-Jr: ie, the cost of actually processing the transaction - which was admittedly near infinite on a worthless scamcoin
Luke-Jr: and I just set reasonable fee requirements that nobody bothered to pay
Luke-Jr: also that there was an attacdk
ben_vulpes: what's the lie, Luke-Jr ?
mircea_popescu: they do have this reputation for servicing shitholes...
BingoBoingo: mike_c: In this case I'm more of the opionion every other rookie is just sucking so much dick this year.
mike_c: BingoBoingo:Apparently this dude who couldn't hit for a couple months is now actually in the rookie of the year race << lol. this is the bet you were swearing was ridiculous a few months ago right?
BingoBoingo: lol here people have yards so they assume their dogs exercise themselves and both get fat, unless they have a motivated dog who takes walks at night at roughly the same time I do.
mircea_popescu: there you go donw the street and you suddenly meet this dogflower/amoeba made out of 10-30 dogs connected to a one guy pistil
mircea_popescu: there';s a funny thing about that. around here the dogwalking service is very popular as a thing
BingoBoingo: So... Today I've found the perfect mobile phone. The Alcatel 871. It makes and recieves phone calls. It lets you text so you can get bitches. It has a built in flashlight. Also the ringer is totes loud so you can safely set it some distance from "the cage" and anything important
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> <BingoBoingo> Also apparently mircea_popescu is unwelcome in West Virginia << how do you know she wasn't coming over to my place for a fuckvisit and taking her husband along for company ? << Well, I figure if you put up with the US Border shit you'd stay long enough to need to take the girls and various collected officials for a walk
BingoBoingo: mike_c> psh, anybody can do world domination << Napoleon could even take Ethiopia which was such an easy target the fucking Dagos took it a century later
mike_c: hell the *french* did it once
BingoBoingo: mike_c: WoL is only the third MPEx backed game I've liked. The first was BitBEt, second world domination, third WoL.
mike_c: hey. thanks for the bump atruk.
ben_vulpes: eventually the hobo tires and gives up.
ben_vulpes: i dodge - shit you not i kick his ankle and then run into the parking lot, where (again, not shitting in the slightest) he chases me in circles while his friend smokes a cigarette next to my friend.
ben_vulpes: the particularly scruffy one gets butthurt about hearing my nickles jingle (what - i'm a joo, it turns me on) and makes a grab at me
ben_vulpes: one time when i was but a wee benkay a friend and i converted some dollars into nickels, for to haul to the nickel arcade. we were walking up hawthorne in portland (which back in those days the Arby's might still have been operational or it might have been shuttered but in either case it wasn't actually demolished and turned into yuppy 'condo' shoeboxen yet), when of course some of the summertime transients petition us for our quarters
BingoBoingo: Or are you not talking about the jackoff booths?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: You know they still have that kind of arcade in highway rest stop pornstores
ben_vulpes: not really an arcade in the classic sense. i'm barely old enough to remember the glory days.
ben_vulpes: if only there were an arcade...
BingoBoingo: There is no promise that ATC's marketmaker will enforce any floor in price indefinitely, but the fact that the Market Marker's manager actually wants to buy metric fucktons of ATC means you can finally take crypto quarters to the arcade.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Well, it is the first viable alternative to testnet, because instead of an absence of value a la tetnet ATC offers at a minimum a small value. In the sense that someone is byuing ATC.
ben_vulpes: <FoOdies5> maybe keep the coin from going up << and in the process acquire btc to drive it up. this is central banking 101, except one needs a) to not be a scammer and b) to actually work as marketmaker
assbot: BitBet - Billy Hamilton Rookie of the Year :: 0.08 B (28%) on Yes, 0.19 B (72%) on No | closing in 3 months 1 week| weight: 64`469 (100`000 to 1)
BingoBoingo: Apparently this dude who couldn't hit for a couple months is now actually in the rookie of the year race http://bitbet.us/bet/887/billy-hamilton-rookie-of-the-year/
BingoBoingo: You can ask him questions, but given his problems I doubt he'll assist in providing the opposition with discovery
BingoBoingo: July 30th, 2014 Sprint and Skynet collude to officially reveal the Shitternet, asp predicted by asciilifeform and others http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/07/30/sprint-tries-a-facebook-only-wireless-plan/
FoOdies5: and declaring the coin dead
BingoBoingo: neuroMode: Maybe? Maybe the searching is part of the point? Searching gets you the failure of its comtemporaries as well if you dig right
BingoBoingo: This current drama with Doge, LTC, ethereum et al happened before 2-3 years ago
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: The short story of CoiledCoin is you need to find and read the long story to understand the things making lowercase altcoins fail have been happening for a long time as the Coiled Coin story makes an interesting contrast to other altcoins which were its contemporaries and still died albeit in other ways
kakobrekla: i did the scaling long ago btw
FoOdies5: people will fuck up when they have a gazillion decimals to work with
fluffypony: this is the problem that occurs when "functional tests" involve "I can send and receive 0.0005 BTC"
ben_vulpes sticks his head back into the code-sands
ben_vulpes: mediocre engineers as far as the eyes can see
fluffypony: but not before people made payments that were 1/100000 of what they meant to pay
fluffypony: they patched it
fluffypony: did you hear about the Blockchain.info iOS wallet?
ben_vulpes: there's a limit, let's go to it.
fluffypony: and then argue for a few years
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: There's also the chance that the big miner that picks up a coin for Merged mining won't be friendly to it, see CoiledCoin as an early example
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: if it becomes the "in thing" to use your own cryptocurrency for loyalty systems we may see more of this
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: Not really, the market forces merged mining brings a lot of coins to an early slaughter.
FoOdies5: coins with the purpose of serving small niches that won't attract big mining
neuroMode: it just emphasizes the pointlessness and aimlessness of the coin, and makes the coin now flagged for possible scam
BingoBoingo: Well, the same breach happens when a coin switches from mining its own chain to merged mining
fluffypony: but they break their social contract when they launch as one thing and then suddenly change to another
BingoBoingo: <fluffypony> I don't fundamentally have an issue with PoS as an experiment (albeit one doomed for failure at present) << Proof of Stake essentially lets big bagholders delude themselves longer by becoming still bigger bagholders
fluffypony: I'm disappointed that thickasthieves hasn't even bothered releasing a whitepaper promising Choctaw Star Gates for Altcoin
fluffypony: I believe that all altcoins in the future should include Star Gates
fluffypony: mypersonal favourite is the SummerCoinV2 whitepaper