jurov: mod6: everyone: I am offering 6050 USD/BTC exchange rate for the 2k USD wire. Will wait till Thursday November 8, maybe you can make better offer.
mircea_popescu: Mocky so i guess next step is make an appointment with their minister of technology, industry, or whatever the fuck, explain to the secretarial overseer you end up seeing that the republic is in principle willing to do some tech transfer help them become a real country, exchange confused nods and handshakes and set the bozo bit on the ball of faux carpeting yarn pretending to be a country ?
BingoBoingo: In other local prey behaviors, theft from unattended vehicle titled as though it may have been a robbery of the physical person: http://archive.is/hIZ6E https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/le-robaron-al-jefe-de-policia-de-montevideo-201811317942
BingoBoingo: ^ Indictment prepped for the likely event Canadian "revenue agents" begin kicking down doors
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform apparently the pig-riding faery is "complicated", but there is a button labeled RECHARGE in the bottom center, which should take you to the right place if you feel like trying again.
Mocky: just got a nibble on my BTC ad, someone created an account named SyedAlthaf 20 minutes ago and opened a cash buy of 500 QR worth. But then cancelled trade 1 minute later.
asciilifeform will bbl, gotta sharpen an axe & other chores
mircea_popescu: i wonder what galazies have to allign for the next mp to come along, "suyre, here's a twenny"
mircea_popescu: as perhaps evidenced by the fact you... can't custom, even if for inexplicable reasons you'd want to.
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine they get that much custom.
mircea_popescu: nuts, these people.
asciilifeform marvels at the sea of blinkenlights
asciilifeform: loaded the flashism, it offers 'buy' various in-games
asciilifeform: grr, logs in, but there's no pay hole
mircea_popescu: admire the beauty of web design, i guess.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform similarily there's 10`000 things to do around my household, but some girlies still derp about their "going to college" or "having a boyfriend" or whatnot.
asciilifeform: it boggles my brain, that there is 10,000 man-years of things to do, but some folx carefully avoid doing anyffin.
mircea_popescu: it's a very strict cleaving, what. a dood that's useful will be useful and a dood that's not useful will be useless. there's about eight trillion barns separating the slowest gamma from the fastest beta.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re 'sad serpent hole', a d00d like shinohai could easily take my proggy and determine whether e.g. aes's, key expander is injective (afaik nobody ever bothered)
asciilifeform: ( bake it in ECL, then get 'for phree' not only constant-time, but constant-current.
asciilifeform: doesn't even need 10nM or anyffing of the kind
asciilifeform: the only seekrit ingredient missing is some way to actually lay the physical circuit down.
mircea_popescu: if qatar had any fucking sense, instead of wasting my emissary's time with idiocy, they'd simply take over computing.
asciilifeform: 1980s algo, from the days of 1uMism.
asciilifeform: ( it doesn't win 'vs pc' other than as proof of concept )
asciilifeform: quasi-relatedly: asciilifeform found out that it is actually possible to fit an rsatron into ice40, if one uses a bit-serial multiplier into external sram. a 4096x4096 mul would then take 8192 clock cycles ( 16384 if counting all load/stores. ) but we can come back to this item laters.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu earlier emboldened asciilifeform into a 'let's slow but working rsatron sooner, rather than eternal massage, why not massage later' approach.
asciilifeform: there isn't very much remaining, fwiw: 1) evaluation of ave1's gnat (ch12) 2) barrett 3) miller-rabin.
mircea_popescu: say "ima give in [delta time]" not "ima give [apologies/justifications/let's be weird together]"
asciilifeform: ( mine is equipped with a rather questionable 2010s freebsd )
asciilifeform: ideally would deploy these with cuntoo
a111: Logged on 2018-11-01 20:48 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform speaking of "taking suggestions" : suppose you bake me a proper drop-in gpg replacement. in ada, constant time, does FG-aware keygen, signing, verification, and encryption/decription. 100% rsa, none of the "cipher" bs as per current.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's in the pipe, directly behind http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-01#1868640
asciilifeform: the list of open problems is kilometre-length, d00d could start actually doing sumthing any time he can be arsed
mircea_popescu: now shut the fuck up before i crack you one an' ruin your illusions of participation, inclusion and sufficiency for you.
mircea_popescu: the way to pretend to be part of the republic without being part of the republic is AT A DISTANCE. like all those schmucks "working on their phd" telling chicks "o yea, i totally know mp, we netflix and chill all the time" at "tech conferences". not by fucking dribbling here.
mircea_popescu: there he sits, remote in hand, "checking to see if there's anything interesting on the tv". are we ready to entertain him yet ? or does he come back later ?
shinohai: I have my muttrc modded beyond all comprehension, but love the fact it can handle even google surveillance mail. ( at one time even got bitmessage to hook up to it)
mod6: jurov: Yeah, we'd love to have a wire sent by the 10th.
asciilifeform: ( they're a lower-current / flatter ver. of crt, really )
asciilifeform: funnily enuff, display-burn is ~coming back~, the 'oled' panels suffer from it
asciilifeform: ( doubled as a heater, at one time i lived in a flat where they didn't stoke the boiler till december )
asciilifeform: possibly others existed, but i only ever used 'pine'
trinque: isn't a republican way to mind your wife either.
trinque: this has been expanding into a general principle in my life, of the matters that are republican, and the matters that aren't.
asciilifeform: for reliable delivery apparently gotta use their aol^H^Hmicroshi^H^Hgmail etc
trinque: it is, and I think it's a fool that tries to chase them into the "one moar magical DNS value" or misc other will make it work.
asciilifeform: erry other time, fails silently
asciilifeform: trinque: i ran own postfix etc for yrs, and the box still alive, but i've found that actual ~delivery~ of mail ~from~ it into heathendom, is a crap shoot naodays
asciilifeform: theoretically i'd rather have 1 pedal instead of 2, but emacs aint stable/uncrashable enuff for me to comfortably move in
trinque: no shame in it; approach looks similar when you squint (either collection of elisp whatnots or collection of (ba)sh)
a111: Logged on 2018-11-02 22:54 deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/11/another-intel-cpu-sidechannel-leak-documented-with-the-leak-dependent-once-again-on-a-thing-intel-did-to-boost-appearance-of-speed/ << Qntra - Another Intel CPU Sidechannel Leak Documented With The Leak Dependent Once Again On A Thing Intel Did To Boost Appearance Of Speed
a111: Logged on 2018-11-02 23:04 trinque: asciilifeform: I shamelessly use emacs as interface to just about every heathen thing (gmail included) I have to touch
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-02#1869016 << this is prolly a neato item but (to the possible surprise of some people) asciilifeform doesn't 'live in emacs' in the sense of using it for things that ain't files-on-disk editing
BingoBoingo: trinque: I suspect they may have killed imap/pop3 login to fetch mail
trinque: mu4e is probably the best email interface I've used, can shred an inbox of 100s in a few minutes
trinque: asciilifeform: I shamelessly use emacs as interface to just about every heathen thing (gmail included) I have to touch
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/11/another-intel-cpu-sidechannel-leak-documented-with-the-leak-dependent-once-again-on-a-thing-intel-did-to-boost-appearance-of-speed/ << Qntra - Another Intel CPU Sidechannel Leak Documented With The Leak Dependent Once Again On A Thing Intel Did To Boost Appearance Of Speed
asciilifeform: meanwhile in heathen lulz, 'gmail' ( now 'upgraded' ) nao takes longer to load than winblowz email client asciilifeform used in mid-1990s did
mod6: I'd say just let his 9.5k ride, we'll get it eventually. meanwhile, I think we need another 2k. maybe jurov wants to put up an auction?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> they say it may take as much as FIVE WEEKS to get you your dough. now -- you wanna wait ? you wanna explore maybe euros ? you wanna call it off ? << I'll think about it a bit more. I'll double check the math, but if the transfer is 5 weeks out that still leaves us a margin of safety from the month of guarentee put up when service started.
asciilifeform: [ insert the mandatory ' if asciilifeform knew useful trades ' thread here ]
mircea_popescu: but asciilifeform "couldn't", then. and i guess we're going to terribly regret not sending in fucking helicopters to extract him from the concentration camp he ended up into through stubbornly refusing to fucking leave on his own two feet for a decade.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's actually a return to 'vhs era' barbarism, prior to at&t breakup they also leased pnoje , could not buy )
mircea_popescu: the time to get out was, evidently, back when this was first discussed.
asciilifeform: ( i fughet how often they can break and get 'at no cost!111' new )
mircea_popescu: seems to me like the empire-of-can't-pay-outside-obligations is moving into a soviet outfit. got plasticar, plastiphone, plastifastfood and on your way.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: laugh, but it's nearly come; most of the users already have the 'subscription', they break'em regularly and get mailed new
diana_coman: imagine the chewing-phone! and lasting about one day max, perfect
diana_coman: or possibly the idea is that apple phones are indeed extremely similar to chewing gum
asciilifeform: ( current crapple doctrine, is that the mac is too much like an actual comp, too easily massaged into at least installing non-crappla apps )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: indeed. the other day was entry of i-nintendo into 'pro' market, as i understand. new turn of frog boiler knob.
asciilifeform: ( they even got various trad desktop shitware ported to it, e.g. photoshop, positioning as 'you dun need computer no moar' )
asciilifeform: might have some connection with the lul
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for extra lulz, they released yet another $1-2k 'no headphone port, and here buy new power cord' box the other day
mircea_popescu: or is the idea dude's as hollow as a bagpipe.
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, dude "didn't understand technology", bought wrigley. is the idea apple phone spits out wrigley spearmint flavour ?
asciilifeform: '"I do not focus on the sales in the next quarter or the next year," he said in August. "I focus on the ... hundreds, hundreds, hundreds millions of people who practically live their lives by it [iPhone]." He also called the iPhone "enormously underpriced," saying that it's worth far more than the $1,000 Apple charges for its latest models.'
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathendom lulz, 'Buffett Loses Nearly $4 Billion as Apple Stock Tanks'
asciilifeform: erry so often, i see spamola that cannot be explained any other way (e.g. for some vacuum-moulding shop in milwaukee etc )
mircea_popescu: srsly tho, i'd like to see the euro side.
mircea_popescu: like the good old days.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if worst comes to worst, next time someone does a supply run they fly copa like sane people, and ima have someone meet them in panama with brown paper bag.
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, will be familiar to 1980s1990s east euro folk ; and yes i expect that experience's exactly the guide, ie, will get more frequent, ampler and longer lasted as time goes by.
asciilifeform: of the '5 weeks' , i mean
mircea_popescu: i don't expect this is optional, ~everyone~ has the exact same problem.
mircea_popescu: they say it may take as much as FIVE WEEKS to get you your dough. now -- you wanna wait ? you wanna explore maybe euros ? you wanna call it off ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo in other http://trilema.com/2016/sad-times-in-the-fiat-empire-apparently-you-cant-give-the-dollar-away-these-days/ news : wire processor informs me that they've a HUGE backlog of usd-to-ourside-reich transfers, and they're barely trickling out.
diana_coman: basically they tend to sound less like "automated result of syntactical analysis " and a bit more like some sort of summary: this and this and that were apparently the topics
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-02#1868864 -> heh, I can quite easily picture it, yes; fwiw though I think there IS some clear improvement in her summaries
asciilifeform: then would expect would be cheaper ( supposing errybody concurs )
asciilifeform: Mocky: lol, is theirs sideways or wat
Mocky: its either hotels, bars or online, bars an online are freelancers
Mocky: the hotels do. hotels need a way to distance themselves from the occasionaly law enforcement, scapegoat
mircea_popescu: will come out wayu the fuck cheaper than marriage, that's for damn sure.
asciilifeform: seems like 'price for rube', but then again i am not subjexpert
Mocky: well i don't know but they don't tell me to fuck off, no matter how much i ask them but never agree to pay
mircea_popescu: dreamy-eyed "students" are, today as in the time of francois villon, whatever you can spare.
Mocky: the fun thing is, like any salesman they *have* to talk to you and answer your questions if they think you'll buy
mircea_popescu: but anyway, blowjob in the bushes is traditionally deemed 20 bucks, though it varies, in rural areas with old whores it's a ciggarette or w/e.
Mocky: not allowed to leave house but one day a week, even then with cerfew
Mocky: the 75/25 male female ratio is actually a lot worse than that, given how locked down a lot of the domestic female workers are
BingoBoingo: Ah, she knows she's in the Nigerian's league
mircea_popescu: what was the problem, she expected a tip you didn't provide, as far as you know ?
Mocky: she's not speaking to me anymore. i've got a few days to get one of these other chicks to do it tho
mircea_popescu: srsly tho, get the photog hussy to film you during, livestream it... tom green's suddenly got nothing on you.
mircea_popescu: that way we could end up with a bunch of gay-for-convenience indian dudes in skinny jeans tryna import their handicrafts into here, too!
mircea_popescu: Mocky so are you gonna tell the "Daos" dorks how lulzy they are, what a republic is, and how it's been wearing them for dick ornaments this entire time ?
Mocky: the dude who messaged me from luxemburg wanting to buy coin
mircea_popescu: Mocky iirc luxemburg is where the actuial site owner lives. ie, moar of the same "silk road major drug dealer, dork in charge has to buy the lb of coke on his own cuz site is such major"
Mocky: he still has the same number of trades (12) as when i first spied him in sept.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-20 18:52 Mocky: i get the impression from other talks (not today) that there is no end of "i have great biz idea for importing from my home country india" being pitched
mircea_popescu: i'd expect the "sell btc" guy in the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-20#1864522 vein, not really worth it.
Mocky: i can still buy btc from the one guy, presumably. but the other guy pulled his ad before I got the coin into my account there
a111: Logged on 2018-10-22 18:26 mircea_popescu: ah don't be silly, use the dime.
mircea_popescu: Mocky i thought you were specifically going to sell btc to one, buy from the other or somesuch
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho notbad practice at other times also.
Mocky: in terms of actual traders, the guy actually trading on localbitcoins pulled his ad. So I posted my own ad up. It's been up for some time now, more than a week i think. no locals contacted me yet
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: On a typical day they tend to stay in their compound in Barrio Sur (el barrio afrodescendiente)
asciilifeform: eternal 2016 there, or wat
Mocky: this seems to be the only group that actually does anything
Mocky: mircea_popescu, there's a "gulf blockchain foundation" meet up in three days I'm going to. two speaks giving talks then mingle time: "Governance: DAOs and traditional governance" and "Proof of scam: Drawing the line between the good and the bad"
BingoBoingo: Actual Security Update: November 26th through December 3rd, there will likely be about 400 USG tending to assorted support aircraft in Carrasco for the G20 summit across the river in Buenos Aires.
asciilifeform: ha maybe it was the '16 beard patch
diana_coman: in other lol: I guess I can claim that I got here the youngest log reader - the child reads a tid-bit of it ~every time he comes by for anything, even though he struggles on some words ("etc?"); makes for a very good example: yes, you CAN read but you still have a pile of stuff to figure out before it makes any sense
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-02#1868790 << speaking of, hey Mocky what ever came of the camelridin' bitcointraders ?
asciilifeform: ( took the printout to bed )
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 00:42 mircea_popescu: o shit there it is, navrozov moment!
mircea_popescu: it's that http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760109 but for a different sort of socialism : rooslveltist socialism, the femvariant.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: they aint; recall that the square-bracketed items on right hand side are constants
diana_coman: asciilifeform, re proof at first pass it looks sound to me; my only current niggle with it (to be addressed at 2nd pass) is if there are any bits of the key interchangeable perhaps (though it doesn't seem likely, I can't yet tell for sure)
mircea_popescu: and if you deny it, the response comes ~as if~ you had denied everything-about-the-idiot, because, to them, you literally have. if wordmagic dun exist, if her words have exactly 0 power to anything, if she could just as well cup her palms, word in her left and piss in her right, then... then... then WHAT WAS IT ALL FOR ?!?!?
asciilifeform: *they
asciilifeform: hey it's how the end up 'hare'ing krishna an' such. 'words do things'
mircea_popescu: incidentally, to continue the above : the whole "no means no" wank is cheap proxy for "i am woman, and for years I have focused and prepared for words to do things, and I will not be derailed. I will not be embarrassed, and I will not be denied! So tomorrow, words will do things, come hell or high fucking water!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if i were a prankster i'd ring the bell to ask how his wife's doing and when did she pass.
mircea_popescu: because she specifically wants both ends of the dilemma. she WANTS to be indistinct, and she WANTS to be distinguished in spite of it.
mircea_popescu: this, the definitive femwank, indistinct-but-distinguishable. hence "romantic" (romanticism is in all times and places the shorthand name for the mainstream wank) notions of identification-past-identity, and "true love" and all that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i once saw a vintage door sign, 'this is a cobbler shop, there are no prostitutes at this address, thank you'
mircea_popescu: who the everloving fuck reads "profiles" ? same people who exec user strings i suppose ?
mircea_popescu: womenz and their insane if hilarious and apparently ubiquitous belyf in wordmagic.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the other lulzfarm, "LordMPofTMSR Not even kidding. SrirachaSkittles Drop whatever what is? Do you just ignore peoples profiles? LordMPofTMSR Yup."
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i just meant what he says stands ; i'm not married to the directive.
asciilifeform: the proggy can be used in fyootoor to similarly examine whatever recurrent function.
mircea_popescu: i like how these articles of yours end up in the pulp fiction tradition quentin tarantino so much loved. "the end ... (for now...)" etc.
asciilifeform: scheduler would've been a lulzy place to hide the boojum.
asciilifeform: then, went to step on erry possible nail in erry plank, lol
a111: Logged on 2018-10-29 05:07 asciilifeform: relatedly, asciilifeform tried to bake a proof that the lamehash keyinflater function of serpent is one-to-one ( i.e. actually carries 256bit of the key register's entropy into the 528 bytes of whiteolade ) and not only didnt , but realized that afaik no such proof exists for any 'troo' hash also ( incl keccak.. )
asciilifeform: q's/nitpicks re the proof, welcome
asciilifeform: ( and it is prolly possible to fit the 'storm' into a yet-smaller 'teacup', even )
a111: Logged on 2018-11-02 14:27 deedbot: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2675 << Loper OS - The Serpent Ciphers Key Schedule Transform is Injective.
mircea_popescu: heh. so in the end... http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-01#1868494 <<->> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-02#1868792 TEACUP THUNDERSTORM!!!
asciilifeform: lemme know if the proof makes sense, once you get to it.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i would not use phrase 'very fine' but it ~isn't~ elementarily botched, is all. there's 2^256 outs, 1 per in.
BingoBoingo: And people say math can't be any fun for the spectators
deedbot: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2675 << Loper OS - The Serpent Ciphers Key Schedule Transform is Injective.
shinohai: Well it hasn't yielded income equal to other pursuits, I just find it amusing (from bouncing about alt-irc shitcoin groups) that so many of these guys really think they are competitor to actual Bitcoin.
asciilifeform: ( there's prolly enuff of them that one could even squeeze a meager living from it ! like e.g. rat catchers in 18th c london )
shinohai: Hi diana_coman nice to see you! I'm back from summer of convalescence, not doing anything in particular yet these days.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: unlike, e.g., haskellists, we only do things if they make sense : as you pointed out, 'bit-vectorized' keccak aint constant time, no matter what, so no particular reason to bother with the massage
diana_coman: if we aimed indeed for constant time, then sure, definitely worth the change but that's not the case
a111: Logged on 2018-10-31 17:54 asciilifeform: implicit conditionals aint evil per se , tho ; i banned them in ffa specifically as they get in the way of constanttimeism, is all
diana_coman: not at all sure it's worth all that just for preserving the no implicit conditionals restriction (which as asciilifeform pointed out already, is not evil per se http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867953 ))
a111: Logged on 2018-10-31 23:18 mircea_popescu: diana_coman http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867935 << he;'s got a solid point there.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1868075 -> there being a few more points there though since "and" requires fixed and same sizes of the two operands while now they are loosely "Integers" ; and sure, I can cast them to some fixed size type but then I make the whole package depend on Interfaces
mircea_popescu: because gee whiz, "i am not prepared to answer this question" is strictly speaking dementia, a seven year old is expected to be ahead of that, which is why that's when they start formal schooling.
mircea_popescu: and no, they couldn't be "anything". i'm not asking fucking naively, "please supply a string for my exec()". i'm asking to see whether they're fucking demented or not.
mircea_popescu: but who and what aren't the same thing, to begin with.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-01 17:25 mircea_popescu: this notion of "be anyone" etc is entirely fabricated, out of the venom of mother inca and the overactive brains of idle smart boys. nobody agrees with it, nothing agrees with it in practice, it never is nor ever was nor ever could be found in nature... it's like you thinking santa claus is real.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-02 03:57 mircea_popescu: (somehow the femtards never seem to figure the fucking obvious, "agreeing to be nice" can only possibly result in folger's friendship and no genuine anything to be had anywhere.... god i fucking hate 'em.)
billymg: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-02#1868759 << and yes, one of the many MANY reasons i want to be here. this very thing, constantly, at work and everywhere else, takes its toll on your sanity
billymg: mircea_popescu: not at all, i was amused myself when i put myself in your shoes and read my messages as "how does the what go into the who now?"
mircea_popescu: (somehow the femtards never seem to figure the fucking obvious, "agreeing to be nice" can only possibly result in folger's friendship and no genuine anything to be had anywhere.... god i fucking hate 'em.)
mircea_popescu: and isn't it great that our code of conduct prevents me from actually telling you how i feel about the matter. /sarcasm
mircea_popescu: billymg don't take it the wrong way ; nothing wrong with not knowing things. i don't know most of them either.
billymg: is this the right place to start reading to get gnat installed? http://ave1.org/2018/building-gnat-on-musl-no-more-usrincludex86_64-linux-gnu/
billymg: phf: ty and apologies for the simple questions. definitely learned a few more things about v this evening
phf: vtools_genesis is a very reduced gnu diff, which has a place for hash, but doesn't know how to produce one, until either sha or keccak is attached in later patches
asciilifeform: billymg: you can't 'emerge' gnat on the rk, the only known arm64 gnat is ave1's, and presently gotta be hand-emplaced
billymg: fwiw, i pressed at the keccak.vpatch level
phf: billymg: at the top of your vtools directory, is there a file called "Makefile" and is there are file called "vdiff.gpr"?
phf: i suspect you only have the first patch applied, which comes with a makefile, and which will indeed produce a vdiff that doesn't know how to hash
billymg: ahh, that would be it then. i don't seem to have ada, etc. installed
billymg: i'm very new to all of this, how do i check the version of gnat?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-02#1868722 << must be the dreaded ada/c interop. which version of gnat, which os are you using?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: soo asciilifeform had a bit of sleep and wakes up and turns out the serpent thing has a twist ending
billymg: managed to press vtools and use vdiff to create a patch of the css tweaks for the "default" theme included in mp-wp http://billymg.com/downloads/mp-wp-css-refine.txt
billymg: hi all, sorry i've been away for a bit. last weekend ended up being a social one and tonight's the first chance i've had to poke around with vtools
trinque: hackin up the rest of this loser flu that stood no chance.
trinque: I've lived in some pretty terrible shitholes, always seems that the ones that get picked out on the street wanted to be, on some level
BingoBoingo: Ah, here's the latest on the floater https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/novia-del-joven-asesinado-en-parque-rodo-nadie-nace-chorro-no-se-combate-la-violencia-con-mas-violencia--2018103121250
asciilifeform: whatcha up to these days, shinohai
BingoBoingo: And most of the self identified repeat victims don't recieve more than whatever bumps were necessary to abscond with their shit
BingoBoingo: It appears to take the occurrence of a serious cascade of failure.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: fwiw asciilifeform walked all around the town, at ~all hrs, not only not stabbed but not even insulted, by orcs
BingoBoingo: Seriously though, asciilifeform has met me in person and confirm I am not built like a person who should be seeking out fights. Yet... It isn't rare to be walking about and the sight of some local dork fires something in the brain roughly equivalent to "they aren't as opprosed as they are signalling they should be"
BingoBoingo: There's folks who whine in the paper that everyone in their family has been robbed twice, yet they fail to wonder "is something wrong with my family?"
BingoBoingo: I don't know everything going on on the west side of Bulevard Artigas, but on my side the people getting robbed are getting robbed repeatedly because they can't quit their prey behaviors
BingoBoingo: Today the sun did not in fact rise. At some point the thick clouds dispersed and it was already up
mircea_popescu: you're contemplating something along the lines of "today nov 1st the sun rose because someone said ''the sun also rises'' in a book"
mircea_popescu: but whaty are they to do
mircea_popescu: yes, i get it, if those characters lucked out with a better author, they wouldn't be so fork-eyeingly boring and trite and omfg enough already.
BingoBoingo: You poison a rando you gotta poison the rando stoolies or pay them off to not notice you poisoned the rando they were told to keep tabs on in exchange for getting prettier twinks in their block
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: erry once in a while when planets align , these dickens chars step out of the page and actually do sumthing, neh
mircea_popescu: how THE FUCK are figments of imagination gonna kill some dude ?
BingoBoingo: They only had to poison one milosevich
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the talking bags don'\t actually do anything or matter in any sense. it's like going "i wonder why dickens' characters didn't murder dickens, he's such a tedious pile of crap"
asciilifeform: lulzy that they din't simply poison him yet
bvt: i also intend to genesis a ffatronic base64 encoder/decoder that i wrote as an exercise (also todo for the weekend).
bvt: can't say these results are any useful until i write a summary (todo for saturday).
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: once we have the basic variant going, can then take some of the slowbite out of it with asmism etc
mircea_popescu: exact sort of thing the very bite-ful "fuck you, world, you're not good enough to play" is articulated out of.
asciilifeform: sword -- right there in that stone.
asciilifeform: let the heroes rise!
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with giving that a breather, see where heroes may lie hidden in the woodwork.
asciilifeform: ( if, btw, somebody else has the time/inclination to do the latter, i'll only say 'thx'. thing is already in xor-sat form, roll the constant term into the eqn's, set $known-schedule as the output values, and gaussian-reduce... )
mircea_popescu: well, drop-in in the sense that once it's published ima ask trinque for a timetable for moving deedbot to using it ; and future aspirants to registration will have to use it, bake their own equivalent, or get lost.
asciilifeform: sounds like 'polish off the bloody bignum thing already!', lol. matrix reduction will have to wait, then.
asciilifeform: will have to specify the exact meaning of 'drop-in replace' tho, i suspect you dun actually want the keychain bs for instance
asciilifeform: it is possible that there's some format gnarl that i haven't accounted for , tho, i haven't tried erry elephantine key on it ( should really test by walking phuctor db )
mircea_popescu: ideally also has compatibility layer, which allows it to import gpg 2.0 and 1.4 style keys (and converts them to republican format), verify gpg 2.0 and 1.4 sigs and decrypt gpg 2.0 and 1.4 messages (but not encrypt to them).
mircea_popescu: ima pay s.nsa a coupla bitcoin for your trouble, and donate the result to the republic, in lieu of donating moar money to the dead end foundation.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform speaking of "taking suggestions" : suppose you bake me a proper drop-in gpg replacement. in ada, constant time, does FG-aware keygen, signing, verification, and encryption/decription. 100% rsa, none of the "cipher" bs as per current.
mircea_popescu: buit as it is -- it's good to know they aim to make money as opposed to satisfy the tweeting hordes.
mircea_popescu: hey, if there didn't exist a bunch of unwashed morons polluting san francisco bay area, such obvious statements wouldn't be needed.
Mocky: unrelatedly, "In its IPO prospectus, Qatar Aluminium Manufacturing Company said one of the strategic objectives is to maximize shareholder returns by increasing financial returns." -Gulf Times fishwrap
Mocky: but there's no way this kind of spade work is going to be harder than trying to wrap my head around code for hours. I always came out on top of the code, so what I'm not gonna figure out how to talk to people if actually try?
Mocky: i know about raising kids, now that they are grown. and I know about java now that I'm sick of it
Mocky: I didn't have any more experience talking to orcs than chatting up chicks or writing c++, or rebuilding my bike engine back in the day, or fixing a million and one things for the first time. I don't know shit about shit. I never did
mircea_popescu: funny thing this tarent, that's at the same time lale and turns out to be arways thele.
mircea_popescu: then men in question would disagree, i suspect.
asciilifeform: so it is good that there is a Mocky