BingoBoingo: I've come up with another theory... What if the government just wants to drive me crazier
atcbot: [PityThePool Hashrate]: 586.41 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.48 TH/s
assbot: ghtufjfjgjj comments on A Law Enforcement Encounter: If you ran a Bitcoin related service before the thing hit $100 you prolly ought to be somewhat concerned and/or prepared
BingoBoingo: More from the vegetable garden http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ekybn/a_law_enforcement_encounter_if_you_ran_a_bitcoin/ck0n57a
gribble: Marquis reagent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_reagent>; Marquis Reagent Testing Kit | DanceSafe: <http://www.dancesafe.org/product/marquis-reagent-testing-kit/>; Bunk Police Drug Test Kit - General (Marquis) Reagent - Amazon.com: <http://www.amazon.com/Bunk-Police-Drug-Test-Kit/dp/B00EDUN2I0>
ben_vulpes: meth and all sorts of other goodies
asciilifeform: 'Molly-induced fantasy' << what is the 'molly' in question ?
assbot: paleh0rse comments on A Law Enforcement Encounter: If you ran a Bitcoin related service before the thing hit $100 you prolly ought to be somewhat concerned and/or prepared
BingoBoingo: Oh, the redditards come out from the USG vegetable garden http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ekybn/a_law_enforcement_encounter_if_you_ran_a_bitcoin/ck0klt5
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: naively. whenever a browser requests the iframe, that's logged.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: how is the 'impressions' figure generated ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 26-08-2014 03:11:40; TheNewDeal: is this site updating ? https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/27/
mircea_popescu: nah, run of the site.
mircea_popescu: you probably are fucking up the cookie read or write somewhere.
assbot: GPG authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki
ben_vulpes: these are all great questions
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so how do i say "put the same ad i have running atm on this new site too" ?
gribble: The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
Flerb: mircea_popescu: it is in the UK
Duffer1: in the states it's a crime
mircea_popescu: Flerb driving without insurance isn't a crime per se either.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes VAN doesn't recognize that keyid. Please try again with the shortform of your GPG/PGP keyid. << now wouldn't it be saner if you just took the last 8 ?
ben_vulpes: nobody's bought anything to run there yet.
gribble: Meni Rosenfeld's vanity thread - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121314.0>; TheLadders: How the scam works - Corcodilos: <http://corcodilos.com/blog/3219/theladders-how-the-scam-works-2>; Loper OS » A Review of MPEx, the Bitcoin Stock Exchange.: <http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1108>
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: explicitly overriding the user-browser css body margin
kakobrekla: so van ads in rolling now on bitbet - feel free to buy the shit.
mircea_popescu: no, i'm saying it. this is by no means news, either.
Flerb: Because some of them are scammers
Flerb: Are you implying that the people who own it are scammers?
mircea_popescu: and yet... cameltoe is older than they think.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: running it may be, maybe, sometime after the usg gets bored of taking half day rides to nowhere.
mircea_popescu: the log.
Flerb: Is there a relatively good place to start with assets?
BingoBoingo: I gave away the seekrit fingerslip.
BingoBoingo: Fuck, the jig's up
Flerb: BingoBoingo: I was just thanking you for doing the !up
mircea_popescu: little does school sally know or wish to notice that in fact her cunt;'s been bleeding for a while, and wanda the preteen whore's time is apparently long gone.
mircea_popescu: either that or a wishful extension of the school environment. you know, "when the time for the exam comes". by definition that will be later.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I dunno yet. Maybe it's an abuse of Kant taking the imposition of time upon the manifold by intuiting and assuming that gives them... power?
mircea_popescu: this time delusion is like the geek's favourite trope already. wtf, "when the time comes". the time came.
assbot: Nobody thinks about the robot apocalypse when spec'ing out a sex android. They should. When the time comes, are you going to be the sub?
mircea_popescu: they're that good.
assbot: Literature/Tale of the Troika - Television Tropes & Idioms
asciilifeform had no idea this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/TaleOfTheTroika had a page on tvt.
asciilifeform: 'To get a braggart use no knife: But give his bragging a high-five And you possess his life.' (most 'winged' snipped therein.)
asciilifeform: http://www.stihi.ru/2011/03/01/1973 << one rhyme featured therein, with decent inglisch translation
asciilifeform: the russian 'pinnockio' - 'буратино' - is an almost totally different thing. a kind of parable about chumpatronics (esp. in the animated musical rendition)
asciilifeform when read the original finally, and saw the famous film, thought it was a cruel mockery of the Real Thing
assbot: Literature/Tales of the Magic Land - Television Tropes & Idioms
asciilifeform: the brits, if i recall, actually did a translation to inglisch
assbot: The Russian Wizard of Oz
asciilifeform: or even know they existed
mircea_popescu: but this probably takes the cake.
mircea_popescu: you should see this thing. i mean, there's this vast tradition in romanian of making incredibly sad and outrageously depressing stories the only fare kids are allowed up until about puberty
asciilifeform: and get a friend on other end, and key random garbage ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought sinclair lewis was the original
mircea_popescu: hey all ye michael moore wannabes out there ? see winchell. he was the original libtard.
mircea_popescu: "He was so sad. You know what Winchell was doing at the end? Typing out mimeographed sheets with his column, handing them out on the corner. That's how sad he got. When he died, only one person came to his funeral: his daughter."
asciilifeform: (unrelated) gold and silver also stored in the IC << they get the Au out - chemically. in just the same way miners do. melting point of Si never plays into it.
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BingoBoingo: Well, if this blog post ends up linked on CoinDesk, I'm sure the FBI agent will read about it.
BingoBoingo: I mean I'll spend 5 hours driving in a car on a hot day and enjoy it solo, but to each their own
mircea_popescu: yeah, adult males often go for 5 hour car rides in the sun for fun.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nobody needed punishment in the st louis bureau.
BingoBoingo: Seriously though these guys made a nearly 5 hour round trip drive when... St Louis is 30 minutes away
mircea_popescu: it's the fbi equivalent of being sent to direct traffic.,
BingoBoingo: Well this conversation and the blog are in plaintext. If they want to go deeper down the rabbit hole, well next year's a time.
mircea_popescu: after the silk road thing, govt clerks everywhere are stuck following up. everything.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if usg is walking 'the drunkard's walk', BingoBoingo is in some extraordinarily luck.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo - theories re: wagen. a) they wanted to see if you'll pull the pin on the thermite. b) they thought you might have coin. << c. random derps wandered into with random derpage.
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BingoBoingo: All the more reason to drink and gamble. Bitbet is a godsend.
asciilifeform: jurov: can't the purified Si monocrystal substrate reused to make another IC << once Si is 'doped' (actual term of art) it isn't pure.
asciilifeform: i imagine there will be a trend, with folks suspected of having coin somewhere - having problems
BingoBoingo: "The reason for this is in my jurisdiction failure to identify yourself in a law enforcement encounter is a crime of questionable constitutional provenance, while having a conversation with a debt collector or process server that consists of nothing on your part other than intoning "Fuck You" a myriad of different was is great justice for all and legally sound."
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's the reason why I greeted the fellows at the door in the peculiar way I did.
BingoBoingo: My first impression seriously though that this might be the day the student loan holders tried to collect the balance on my kidneys.
asciilifeform owns the shirt on his back and a large heap of various rusting scrap metal
BingoBoingo: I am but a pauper kept here for the funnies.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo - theories re: wagen. a) they wanted to see if you'll pull the pin on the thermite. b) they thought you might have coin.
assbot: My thoughts on the ALS challenge
mircea_popescu: don't tell me there's going to be a peak tramadol event
assbot: TheCynicalPharmacist: Tramadol Supply
nubbins`: 10 sold now, that's 20% of the for-sale run
mircea_popescu: ;;rate mircea_popescu 1 He introduced me to some hot chicks over the years.
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mircea_popescu: why the fuck not ? you can't have crypt w/o decrypt...
nubbins`: IF THEY DON'T, WHAT WILL I HAVE BECOME?
kakobrekla: its either love or negrate
mircea_popescu: I PROMISED THEY WILL LOVE IT!
mircea_popescu: "hello is this xerox support center ? yes how do i set my printer so it prints the image of the onlooker's girlfriend ? what do you mean i have to take her picture first bullshit. what if it changes ??? i can't be running after all these people taking their picture incessantly. hello ? HELLO ??? "
gribble: Erowid LSD (Acid) Vault: "LSD Purity", by Bruce Eisner (1977): <https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_writings1.shtml>; The LSD "Family" [Archive] - Opiophile.org: <http://forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-26140.html>; HowStuffWorks "CIA LSD Experiments": <http://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/cia-lsd2.htm>
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nubbins`: kakobrekla, i promised they'd love it, can't send blank ;(
thestringpuller: nubbins`: I should take orders on the t-shirts in btc :P
nubbins`: ben_vulpes: no pics until the pre-order is finished :)
mircea_popescu: sits there all proud now
mircea_popescu: then suddenly one day he perks up, changes sign
kakobrekla: and then
kakobrekla: they were busted for using stock photos with made up names
mircea_popescu: "miss, you had an impacted fuckoid in there we had to take out"
mircea_popescu: i live in wait of the day a doctor says to some poor woman somewhere
nubbins`: thestringpuller: yes, but pre-orders are buying sight-unseen. you want pics first, you gotta wait for general release and pay an extra $5-10
thestringpuller: i didn't get the memo
thestringpuller: I will go ahead and pay the full thing up front (instead of half up front and half on completion)
thestringpuller: he forgot to mention to put a payment address in the signed invoice
thestringpuller: nubbins`: did you get the mail?
artifexd: Lemme know when you are ready for the physical address
nubbins`: depending on sales we may do a second run, but they'll be visibly different (new color scheme) so there's no confusion
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal not lately
nubbins`: i flat-pack them, rolling destroys prints
TheNewDeal: nubbins` are these going to be limited edition?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wasn't aware they actually do the whole nkvd thing << now that i think about it, they do one better. you can keep your passport - but when they scan it at the airport, if the bell rings you get a special treat.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Maybe they hadn't connect my slave name to my real name yet and read the blog where such connections would not make sense.
asciilifeform discovered, after some digging, that he could get russian passport - but would have to spend 1+ year there
asciilifeform: not that, come that hour, the folks with passports will fare any better
mircea_popescu: just the way dead cow cults work.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wasn't aware they actually do the whole nkvd thing. afaik it was just personal cognizance stuff.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if i recall, they took his passport last year
mircea_popescu: why are you still in the us anyway ? not like you got a job or anything ?
BingoBoingo: Also there's that pending county misdemeanor court date later this week
BingoBoingo: Maybe they wanted to see how I'd react if still "wild"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: why'd they let you loose? or should we assume that you're posting from a stake ?
mircea_popescu: The Peckish Woodpecker. Salon & Pimparium.
asciilifeform: Cougar acid-free paper << what other rare animals can be turned into paper ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seems a reasonable approach, all would be gangstas gotta have the gunz.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo visited by the wagen ?
asciilifeform: ads recruiting stoolies aren't new here. they have then regularly for, e.g. insurance fraud
ben_vulpes: "inform on your fellow subjects! it's good for you, and might be for them!"
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: No, the one from Wild Wild West
BingoBoingo wonders if alf has similar close enounters of the gasenwagen kind?
TheNewDeal: jp, i dont think the fbi is gonna ax ya
TheNewDeal: and you have some good internet exposure before you're body is found floating in the river
BingoBoingo: You, know the nice thing about Today's adventure is that at least now I can know that the FBI has a file on me somewhere. just as it has one on Martin Luther King Jr.
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TheNewDeal: what's the point?
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mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal it's van ads.
mircea_popescu: And then there's the story that's fraught with disaster -- of balls that got caught, when a chap took a crap, in the woods. And that trap underneath... Oh, I can't bear the thought!
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal i'd be much surprised if you manage to get something less than a month old approved for van.
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ben_vulpes: TheNewDeal: are you looking to buy some exposure to a thing?
mircea_popescu: factoid of the day : Singer Mel Tormé began his professional career singing with the Chico Marx Orchestra.
ben_vulpes: <TheNewDeal> hows van ads work? << you sign up and pay bitcoin to run ads on a select group of venues.
mircea_popescu: Kamuela: because my connections at differential and the team there represent about 50 years of combined success in MVP's << in this vein, the whores i sat down with for my sundae represent about fifty eight miles of combined cock.
assbot: NY Bankruptcy Court Uses The Eddie Murphy Method Of Allocating Tax Returns
mircea_popescu: http://www.bankruptcylawnetwork.com/ny-bankruptcy-court-uses-the-eddie-murphy-method-of-allocating-tax-returns/
assbot: San Francisco Open Exchange Aims To Be The E-Trade Of Bitcoin | TechCrunch
punkman: http://techcrunch.com/2014/08/23/san-francisco-open-exchange-aims-to-be-the-e-trade-of-bitcoin/
mircea_popescu: it must suck to be one of these scum. if being one of the soviet scum is anything to go by... it must suck quite a lot.
mircea_popescu: TomServo: Pff. Schneier says "Matthew Green << are you surprised ? if not, why not :D
mircea_popescu: punkman: just take everythign they do, and do it the opposite way << word. shit's been run by george, of "every call i ever made was wrong" fame.
mircea_popescu: unless you're short on reddit words or something. and even then...
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: i shouldn't have said specifically Si, but more like the gold and silver also stored in the IC's << gold melting point isn't tinny either.
TheNewDeal: if the IRS sends a sexy woman to my door, I'm going to tell her I'm a part of the FBI - female body inspectors
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you know the tax office workers here are fucking knockouts too ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Also Hollywood lied. The FBI agent was wearing a black business suit, but instead a white polo and khakis. << crisis, ya kno ?
mircea_popescu: went into one of the largest whorehouses. cordoba and 9 de julio. masquerades as a coffee place.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> 're slowly but surely becoming a fucking liability for your neighbourhood. every other week a new black jeep over there. << Reason to host conversation in the front yard, so the neighbors can gossip
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo if it's any consolation : while you were out on the lawn in the sun, i was indoors taking refuge from the chilly winter wind here.
mircea_popescu: 're slowly but surely becoming a fucking liability for your neighbourhood. every other week a new black jeep over there.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: The seemed so fucking incredulous that I with my unkempt hair and beard, could have somehow not used the silk road << it's not racial profiling if you're white :D
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bubinga | 1. Bubinga. 1. A type of hard wood 2. A type of hard erection. "Man, I got the worst bubinga right now, you have no idea". by PenchantMarksman March 08, 2013.
mircea_popescu: Duffer1: i bought a handmade spalted mable/bubinga keepsake box for bitcoin on saturday << what the holy shit.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like mentioning partying to a 15yo and letting them spill.
Kamuela: mircea_popescu: you've only pinged me once in the last few moments of time, so i'm asking you both about what you meant by dissonant and what was wrong with that statement
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Seriously the kept saying suggesting everything in the Bitcoin was shady Tor related stuff. << well what happens there is that they had a lot of early success just exploiting the geek idiocy. let the kids talk about how cool and anon and w/e it is.
BingoBoingo: The agents got kind fo rude with their insisting I know something, but it wasn't quite Hannibal Lecter "free range rude" rude
mircea_popescu: a distinction enjoyed by shockingly few of the early birds.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: still ? << you don't know how this works i take it. they'll be pulling on that thread in 2030. why drop it ?
TheNewDeal: no mp, that's always how I've purchased them
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal is this how you buy assassinations with bitcoin now ?
mircea_popescu: Kamuela if you care, this is intensely dissonant : "Who Is Kamuela Franco? Kamuela Franco is perhaps the most intensely freedom-loving individual you will ever meet. If you've found Steve's work helpful, please donate to show your support."
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: is moiety ded? << i think irl ate her.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "That think I've avoided and wrote about on this blog before. " << you hate the gspot or something ?
mircea_popescu: o look at this, so there's apparently a tv miniseries called roots built around delivering hot black male nudes in bondage ot the average housewife.
BingoBoingo: I guess this is a good time to remind people Van ads is a thing http://van-ads.com/venues if anyone want to bet on the story getting traction
jborkl: mircea_popescu> jborkl no, that's someone else phishing as them. ? who is that? I had someone email me from a service content runner, but I can write my own shitty stories full of typos
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo was btcpak the guy what's his name shrem was helping circumvent his aml or different guy ?
mircea_popescu: jborkl no, that's someone else phishing as them.
mircea_popescu: couldn't remember for the life of me wtf it was.
BingoBoingo: submission to /. of the LEX encounter blog post http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3795013
mircea_popescu: odd, not i nthe logs even ?!
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/25/a-law-enforcement-encounter-if-you-ran-a-bitcoin-related-service-before-the-thing-hit-100-you-prolly-ought-to-be-somewhat-concerned-andor-prepared/
Kamuela: well, I mean you attacked my philosophies, ideas, accomplishments, and character in about 20 nonstop minutes, man. i'm sorry i didn't pass another test of yours by remaining fully collected...
mircea_popescu: they're fucking quotes. the point here being that i comfortably define myself in the terms of the would-be insults various folk tried to tack on over the years. the years of me being and their coming and going. whereas you're stuck aspirationally trying to add labels to yourself. it's a fundamental difference at work.
jborkl: yes, I got something wrong there
gribble: Kamuela, you need to be defined in the WoT in order to accomplish something (eregister <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with (1 more message)
jborkl: oh and the Orangecat post did very poor, so maybe I needed a picture of a funny cat
jborkl: no one uses the IE
X-Rob: mircea_popescu: I do TRY to keep it online. I just feel bad for that outage. The good news is that in that outage I rebuilt both power distribution boards, so hopefully it shouldn't be needed again.
jborkl: all the ones from france are probably pankaake
BingoBoingo: <Kamuela> may be ad hominem, not sure << Every label sounds like an ad hominem unless you have read and digested the historical context.
Kamuela: you're making me realize, for example, that the road to finish this is an uphill one
Kamuela: i apologize for not knowing all the terms, but you are committing the fallacy known as "name-calling"
Kamuela: at least hold yourself to the same standard
jurov: what's pseudointellectual in asking you to show the world the MVP before asking anyone anything?
Kamuela: look, doing for the sake of doing. just expressing. building. being steve wozniak. it's beautiful and i completely agree with you
Kamuela: well another way I'm contributing, I suppose, is moving resources to their highest valued use
mircea_popescu: X-Rob im not going to bother with a coupla cents, just make sure the thing stays online.
X-Rob: mircea_popescu: I think it's fair, looking at the outage, if you just make it 0.2 rather than 0.22 for this week.
Kamuela: no, this is like ensuring a house doesn't fall down by having blueprints drawn up before you put the pieces together
Kamuela: and yet having the build done by a team that's better and uses time more effectively than i can
Kamuela: i have preplanned the MVP
mircea_popescu: i guess i could be the plumber's manager for as long as i stfu and don't go much in the way.
mircea_popescu: okay. so you know what an office manger is. sorta like a glorified receptionist, hires the cleanning crew, takes a weekly salary.
Kamuela: i have to manage the programming team every day
mircea_popescu: don't get all bristly lol. anyway : there's tools to organize all that, use 'em.
Kamuela: so... because i want to organize a bunch of people who don't know each other, because i interview potential customers, because i will continue to direct operations of both the MVP and later pivots, I am contributing "nothing?"
mircea_popescu: not eliminating ideas, but the brand of "ideas", or whatever it reforms as. this concept that one's personally important for no reason whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: you can'rt ever know this, can you ? that means you're not part of the pie, not adding value.
Kamuela: i understand trying to eliminate that, but i think that will be done through solving information asymmetry rather than through eliminating... ideas?
mircea_popescu: Kamuela approach it from another angle, perhaps it's more digestible that way. suppose the worker's work was no good. you know this because the code doesn't compile. suppose the capital's no good. you know this because the check bounces.
Kamuela: something for nothing is what drives the world. it's what causes both its prosperity and its problems
Kamuela: even if we are all managed by artificial intelligence, that artificial intelligence is still the capitalist