mircea_popescu: antonosika you generally can't expect a summary of such things be presented to you on demand. there's about 2 years worth of logs here and >5 of trilema articles, you'll have to go through all that to find your own answer.
mircea_popescu: "Media coverage of new technologies is always governed by an inexorable cycle: First comes the hyping, then comes the trashing. Of late, the Net has so accelerated this cycle that the trashing kicks in well before the hype has stopped sometimes creating a conflict of views that looks suspiciously like genuine debate."
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 well it's not necessarily defined, but to me gypped is the inverse process : when some lout appropriates capital he shouldn't have.
antonosika: mircea_popescu: But, do you have a definition of deeds that are the opposite of ill?
mircea_popescu: antonosika well then you get a free pass.
mircea_popescu: a point established by considering that one has to reason to discover the good, whereas one just "feels" the nice. which approach is exactly why nice rather than good, why all that intellectual effort
BlueMeanie4: what's more, my praxis in life is taking away the capital and the franchise of you lot.< we also have another phrase , getting 'Gypped'
mircea_popescu: what's more, my praxis in life is taking away the capital and the franchise of you lot.
rybro: total logical fallacy man, unless you define what 'good' people are for all parties involved there are definitely going to be differences in opinion on what a 'good' person is and what a good action is on their part
mircea_popescu: "nice" people are rarely worth the price of a decent burial, clothes included, and i very much doubt they ever should be.
antonosika: I deposit 3 btc to you. Isn't it fair that we decide something nice that happens with it if there is a large delay of ETH currency?
mircea_popescu: because they only claim to do cool stuff. anyone can claim to do cool stuff.
rybro: seems like they do cool stuff by why so shady
mircea_popescu: no, it's ethereum
rybro: tell me eth is ethanol and not ethereum
mircea_popescu: recall, im the openbsd guy.
mircea_popescu: i donate to whatever the hell i feel like with or without that contract lol
antonosika: how about you donate the 3 btc to something nice if contract fails ?
mircea_popescu: the purpose is to gain exposure to eth. you can't have the exposure without the exposure.
antonosika: mircea_popescu: I deem that ethereum will trade in 100 btc in one year, but in the chance that it does not I have an infinite loss of capital (which is a lot since I dont have much).
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 you ever read up on the fabulous adventure of teh rota ?
BlueMeanie4: so who adjudicates the contracts?
antonosika: mircea_popescu: Thanks for writing the contract, my take is that you see no way of making it possible for me to avoid waiting till september 2015 for the eth and avoid the risk of a delay of ethereum trade?
BlueMeanie4: im in the wot
mircea_popescu: listen, you got to get in the wot if you keep coming by.
mircea_popescu: he was with the laissez faire troop neh ?
BlueMeanie4: not hard to learn, but the complex structured instruments are not that easy to figure out
BlueMeanie4: the author is right up your guys alley
assbot: The International Financial Markets: 9780444015983: Economics Books @ Amazon.com
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 well it doesn't help that he doesn;'t really know the common terminology.
xmj: it doesn't specify that you have the right not to buy said amount of BTC.
BlueMeanie4: 'buy BTC at a preset price in the future' is an option
BlueMeanie4: a future is similar, but it delivers the actual asset and the price is paid down in full
BlueMeanie4: so what kind of contract would you do then?
BlueMeanie4: so where are the contracts describeD
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BlueMeanie4: they use the term 'webinar' to make you think its' something more important than some lame video someone churned out
BingoBoingo: BlueMeanie4: It's like any other thing. Most of them are absolute shit, but occasionally you get one by an actual expert on an actual subject. There was actually a nice OpenBSD one done by Micheal W. Lucas for O'Reilly
ThickAsThieves: it's frustrating to have to pick them
BlueMeanie4: as soon as I see the word 'webinar' im turned off
BlueMeanie4: Daniel- thanks for the help friend
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: This drug works the opposite direction, gets converted to Dopamine in vivo
ThickAsThieves: does it cause superdepression leading to actors killing themselves?
BingoBoingo: Yeah, later I remembered the WoL buy
ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> ben_vulpes: Is Coinroll the 3rd Van Customer, or have people other than Mircea and Myself been buying ads? << the former
jurov: i don't sniff ether. i prefer euros
antonosika: What do you think about ethereum?
antonosika: jurov: I guess. 5000 ether/btc
jurov: Cognitive enhancement could take place through collective cognitive ability -- the Internet, for example, and institutional innovations that enable humans to function better together. In terms of individual cognitive enhancement, the first thing likely to be successful is genetic selection in the context of in-vitro fertilization. I don't hold out much for cyborgs or implants.
jurov: How to control superintelligent AI is really the most important task of our time -- yet, it is almost completely ignored.
assbot: Artificial Intelligence May Doom The Human Race Within A Century, Oxford Professor Says
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BlueMeanie4: i think this goes back to ancient times really, so did the romans
BlueMeanie4: this system is usable by about 20 people all of them have PhDs
gribble: BlueMeanie4, when you get the challenge string, use this command: (everify <otp>) -- Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter).
gribble: Error: '51587535' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
BlueMeanie4: how did you get the key?
TheNewDeal: There once was a she named Priscilla whose vagina was flavored vanilla. The taste was so fine man and beast stood in line of a lick at this fabled chinchilla. << mircea_popescu could you introduce me to this woman
BlueMeanie4: isee the key
BlueMeanie4: no its up there
BlueMeanie4: i see it on the web page
gribble: Error: '51587535' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
gribble: Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid.
gribble: (eregister <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will (1 more message)
BlueMeanie4: the fingerprint is 1FD2 7380 0859 479E AE75 77AD DCB3 74BF 5158 7535
BlueMeanie4: last 8 chars of the fingerprint?
gribble: Error: '0x51587535' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
gribble: Error: '51587535' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
gribble: Error: '0x51587535' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
gribble: BlueMeanie4, don't forget the ;;
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Is Coinroll the 3rd Van Customer, or have people other than Mircea and Myself been buying ads?
gribble: BlueMeanie4, get in the WoT! (eregister <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' (1 more message)
fluffypony: "After a whirlwind of bidding activity, a 9.0-graded copy of Action Comics #1 sold on eBay yesterday for a whopping $3.2-million, the most ever paid for a comic book"
BlueMeanie4: im sure they brought some in, it's not a crime
BlueMeanie4: re. counterparty- they are blazing the trail- let them do it and spend someone else money :)
BlueMeanie4: yes their claims are reliable, which is important
BlueMeanie4: the ppl at counterparty are at least reliable
BlueMeanie4: onto the next P&D
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ben_vulpes: damn BingoBoingo you're racking up the hits
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Duffer1: i mean which one are you authed as?
punkman: deego: But, really, this is not the only one issue. I have had so many attempts at id theft here and irl that it's annoying beyond belief and I just wish to frigging disappear from otc. So, please do remove my ratings, everyone. :)
Vexual: and they mine
pete_dushenski: as they do
pete_dushenski: i think the marshall auction loozers invested in exchanges and things
pete_dushenski: who are "these people?"
Vexual: 80 million hits really kick sthe llamas ass
antonosika: Are there any good resources for guidelines on giving away trust levels?
pete_dushenski: The American fast-food chain has agreed to merge with Canadian coffee and donut chain Tim Hortons."
pete_dushenski: "People are freaking out on Burger King's Facebook page over the burger chain's moving its headquarters to Canada.
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gribble: (gettrust [<sourcenick>] <destnick>) -- Get trust paths for <destnick>, starting from <sourcenick>. If <sourcenick> is not supplied, your own nick is used as the source. See http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System#Notes_about_gettrust
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Vexual: you're mainly concerned with the bond?
Vexual: i watch the rate make no mistake
ThickAsThieves: they are better of mining gold
Vexual: cifermine is vetter off mining doge if they want bc
Vexual: the one without her vid has 10 mill bit thats 2 motnhs
pete_dushenski: "I wanna see all the big fat ass bitches in the muthafuckin' club. Fuck you if you skinny bitches, what?! Kyuh"
pete_dushenski: from the nicki minaj lyric...
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Daffodil | Daffodil. The opposite of a whore. A girl who is always good and never does anything bad and never gets in trouble. They always act like angels and get good ...
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> generally getting judgements against deadbeats is not productive. /// that has been my position so far. "worth it" would be getting the bonds redeemed for the bitcoins, or getting a similarly valued pile of cash
chetty: <mircea_popescu> escort fucking services ? who is this nigger, a graft between everything johnson and carter had objectionable between them ?!// hmm what happened to the gun shops and churches?
Vexual: find the gpd within
Vexual: he gonna swear on his wot, not the bible
mircea_popescu: escort fucking services ? who is this nigger, a graft between everything johnson and carter had objectionable between them ?!
mircea_popescu: http://origin.dailysignal.com/wp-content/uploads/choke-point-high-risk-list.jpg check out the white house hate list.
assbot: paleh0rse comments on A Law Enforcement Encounter: If you ran a Bitcoin related service before the thing hit $100 you prolly ought to be somewhat concerned and/or prepared
mircea_popescu: antonosika first step would be you get in the wot.
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bv93erCIYAAZhuj.png:large << is this "preparing a new generation of bright young coders to take advantage of the opportunities offered by quantum computing" ?
mircea_popescu: chetty what's "legal" mean ? it's a police state, if the govt don't like you you're illegal, full stop.
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> mircea_popescu do you think it's worth legally pursuing kate-craig over these BTCTC bonds she's not honored? <<< generally getting judgements against deadbeats is not productive.
Vexual: yeah peole are well aware they might make off with te coin
Vexual: ok coin changed 130000 bc for old money in the last 24 hours?
antonosika: Mircea is it officially best to have all communication here in the chat for transparency?
ThickAsThieves: well suntrust is southerners i think, they hate everything that happened after the 80s
Vexual: thats the shittiest bank ive ever heard of
ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu do you think it's worth legally pursuing kate-craig over these BTCTC bonds she's not honored?
antonosika: mircea, I have been too busy to follow the updates on ethereum, but I feel like finishing what I started. How do you feel about a 2015 delivery contract?
Vexual: i mean that in the nicest way
mircea_popescu: this is only the... hm. 5th time it's divvied up by greedy neighbours ?
chetty: someone should write an obit for the ukraine
mircea_popescu: chetty unless they start crossing in frigates and submarines, they've crossed it in everything by now.
assbot: Ukraine says Russian forces cross border in tanks, armored vehicles - The Washington Post
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/1032/under-15-difficulty-increase-before-2015/ << anyone comprehend wtf the markov chains are on about ?
mircea_popescu: well yes, but you still gotta do something with the dangly.
Vexual: sheet then, but im thinking of today, not 3000 yago
mircea_popescu: actually skirts were not really invented either. it was either this or wear a sheet.
mircea_popescu: well there were a number of cock dispositions, mostly consisting on tying it to one side somehow
mircea_popescu: punkman i mean literally, athletes 3500 years ago wore the exact garment.
Vexual: dont need it in the pradesh
mircea_popescu: may be the oldest cut in history.
Vexual: the eyeshave it
mircea_popescu: well that changes things, i was derping with the squiggly letters in like articles and whatnot on the general understanding that nobody knows wtf they are.
mircea_popescu: there's no teetha in blowjob.
Vexual: the poor little mouse
Vexual: went to the wrong house
Vexual: one foot on the grounded ery time
mircea_popescu: There once was a son of a bitch, neither clever, nor handsome, nor rich. Yet the girls he would dazzle and fuck to a frazzle, and then ditch them, the son of a bitch!
mircea_popescu: There once was a sad Maitre d'Hotel who said, "They can all go to hell! What they do to my wife...why, it ruins my life! And the worst is they all do it well."
mircea_popescu: There was once a miner named Dave who kept a dead whore in his cave. She was ugly as shit and missing one tit, but think of the money he saves!
mircea_popescu: There once was a man from Nantucket who kept all his cash in a bucket. His daughter called Nan ran away with a man and as for the bucket... Nantucket.
mircea_popescu: There was once a lawyer named Rex known for his diminutive sex. On arraign for exposure he maintained his composure : "De minimis non curat lex."
mircea_popescu: There once was a she named Priscilla whose vagina was flavored vanilla. The taste was so fine man and beast stood in line of a lick at this fabled chinchilla.
mircea_popescu: There once was a girl named Mcgoffin who was diddled amazingly often. She was diddled by scores who'd been turned down by whores and then laid out to waste in her coffin.
mircea_popescu: There once was a girl named Louise whose cunt hair hung down to her knees. The crabs in her twat tied the hairs in a knot an' reached fame on the flying trapeze.
mircea_popescu: There once was a girl named Irene who snarfed up distilled kerosene, but she found a good bargain on a new hydrocarbon and since then she's never benzene.
Vexual: passing bad check with the cop who hasseled you face: pricless
mircea_popescu: There once was a gangster named Brown, the sneakiest bastard in town.He was caught by G-men shooting his semen where the cops would slip and fall down. << should be on bingoboingo's prison cell.
Vexual: ejrtr do you find these gems?
mircea_popescu: There once was a fencer named Fisk whose speed was incredibly brisk. So fast was his action the Fitzgerald contraction foreshortened his foil to a disk.
mircea_popescu: There once was a Duchess of Bruges whose cunt was unspeakably huge. Said the duke to this dame as he thunderously came: "Mon Dieu! Apres moi, le deluge!"
mircea_popescu: These scions of the Noble House Kelley lived their whole life belly to belly because in their haste they used library paste instead of petroleum jelly.
mircea_popescu: There once was a clergyman's daughter who detested the pony he bought her 'till she found that its dong was as hard and as long as the prayers her father had taught her.
mircea_popescu: There once was a bishop from Birmingham who deflowered young girls while confirming 'em. As they knelt on the hassock he lifted his cassock and slipped his episcopal worm in 'em.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol at the b-a haters making throwaway reddit accts to shit on your post. THIS IS HOW TO WIN!
pankkake: it's more of a silly prideful refusal to read things in English. but since they started reading the main article, they might read the links
mircea_popescu: how are these people going to understand wtf is the context if they cant read english.
pankkake: he wrote some articles in English, I don't think they had much following. I suppose it's because of the existing (significant) readership
mircea_popescu: pankkake re the article, which is not bad if banal (sure, ease of use is completely orthogonal to the discussion , big whoop) the one question in my mind is why write in french if all the sources one quotes are in english.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Just got the email in "[Slashdot] Your Slashdot submission is on the front page! Early Bitcoin User Interviewed By Federal Officers" <<< if you had a podcast and made slashdot fp two times less, you'd practically be antonopopo guy.
mircea_popescu: stripykitteh: I'm a small-time btc investor. I know (by reputation mostly) some of the regulars here. I was just wanting to see if one of them is active at the moment. <<< with a name like that, you know what i thought she wants. but then, imagine my surprise when a twist appears!
atcbot: [PityThePool Hashrate]: 852.12 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.15 TH/s
Vexual: no, the french one
pankkake: some of my pet peeves, that the issue with security and encryption won't be solved by magical dumbed down GUIs
assbot: Schneier on Security: The Problems with PGP
pankkake: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/08/the_problems_wi_4.html lol schneier calls it a "good post"
Vexual: sure as shit the guy has some capital losses
gribble: truffles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 19 weeks, 3 days, 12 hours, 44 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <truffles> tell me when the experiment is over
Vexual: mr avalon himslef is back hashing at ozcoin,theres hashes coming verywheres
Vexual: its a bet that bitfury wont get handed another $20 million by nye
pankkake: lol, what's the point of this bet
BingoBoingo: Well http://van-ads.com/venues shows only 0.01666 bid so far for advertising on the site today, and most of Murica is still asleep so... If anyone wants to hit that market...
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Well it was two guys. An FBI agent and a department of the Treasury agent
pankkake: can't the guy send you a letter instead of showing up unnatended?
BingoBoingo: Eh, they looked like two dudes in polo shirts dressed for golf
Vexual: what did they look like? siezing coins is easy or oh fuck it's not ross?
pankkake: supposed slashdot competitor, comments aren't very good either
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Oh, the FBI, treasury department. In my front yard.
Vexual: thats the most interesting thing ive read for a while
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: I'm going to take a walk up to the gas station and see if the conversation there turns out any better than reddit
TheNewDeal: and bitcoin age is like reverse exponential. even a few months of exposure at the very beginning set you light years ahead of people like myself
TheNewDeal: it's subjective, and relative to the age distribution in our environment
TheNewDeal: im not seeing it front page for the moment
BingoBoingo: But maybe next year the cutt off for an early user is exposure before $100
BingoBoingo: Not sure how I like the editor retitling me to an "early Bitcoin user"
BingoBoingo: If anyone wants to ride the impending wave of traffic
BingoBoingo: Just got the email in "[Slashdot] Your Slashdot submission is on the front page! Early Bitcoin User Interviewed By Federal Officers"
stripykitteh: I'm a small-time btc investor. I know (by reputation mostly) some of the regulars here. I was just wanting to see if one of them is active at the moment.
BingoBoingo: What brings you around these parts?
TheNewDeal: seems like noone has set the statkes
BingoBoingo: Any impression I might be intentionally hiding the connection between myself and my slave name specifically from law enforcement is gone.
BingoBoingo: You have to realize the most recent blog post was the most rational of possible self defense measures.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: you gotta get out of the states, man.
TheNewDeal: sure you wouldn't be the first one